End of the rotation?

[Juevento]

Except that Sirken said they wouldn't move any guilds to Class C if they were locked out for all class R targets.

What will more likely happen is the smaller guilds will merge or dissolve or even better yet, step up to the plate and end up doing the same things asked for in the proposed rotation changes.

You know small things like being prepared for encounters, efficiently mobilizing, etc.

[Funkutron5000]

Originally Posted by Juevento [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except that Sirken said they wouldn't move any guilds to Class C if they were locked out for all class R targets.

What will more likely happen is the smaller guilds will merge or dissolve or even better yet, step up to the plate and end up doing the same things asked for in the proposed rotation changes.

You know small things like being prepared for encounters, efficiently mobilizing, etc.

Like Class C guilds told you to do for years until you bitched and moaned enough to get segregated mobs under the guise of different play styles?

[haksum]

Originally Posted by Llodd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Quite possibly closer to the truth than you think. All those proposals with ultimatums attached were far more representative of a guild coming from class C than R. If we think back to when Rogean and staff got fed up with the hedgimony created by tmo/ib/fe the call was for more of the server to see more of the content. It can't be denied that what is currently happening will be a reversal of that aim.

Depending on what happens in the coming months I would not be suprised to see a guild or two forceably moved into class C.

So, if class R is a total FFA sockfest now, what's the difference between class R and class C short of being allowed to kill VP mobs? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Wasn't class R championed as a different playstyle? It just seems like now BDA and Taken can compete with 'lower' guilds while being protected from IB and TMO. Obviously BDA is already embracing and celebrating their new playstyle.

[Man0warr]

Originally Posted by Llodd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Quite possibly closer to the truth than you think. All those proposals with ultimatums attached were far more representative of a guild coming from class C than R. If we think back to when Rogean and staff got fed up with the hedgimony created by tmo/ib/fe the call was for more of the server to see more of the content. It can't be denied that what is currently happening will be a reversal of that aim.

Depending on what happens in the coming months I would not be suprised to see a guild or two forceably moved into class C.

Rogean was tired of a single guild getting all the kills.

At worst, it will be 5 guilds now getting all the kills (with 3 of those 5 getting an even smaller amount).

More likely Taken/Div/BDA get 60-70% of the kills in Class R, and the smaller guilds get the rest unless they start to alliance (which they seemed against doing unless it was their own terms) and be more serious about it.

Still way more than we got in the 4 years preceding, which was zero.

[haksum]

Originally Posted by Juevento [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except that Sirken said they wouldn't move any guilds to Class C if they were locked out for all class R targets.

You should know by now how capricious statements like these can be on this server. Conditions have changed.

[Man0warr]

Like Class C guilds told you to do for years until you bitched and moaned enough to get segregated mobs under the guise of different play styles?

This won't change BDA's playstyle from what it's been for the last year Class R has been in effect.

Log out your mains close to targets beforehand to speed up mobilization. We will still only track for mobs when it's convenient for our members (we had no trackers for most of the AM hours on Draco today for example). Won't require anyone to poopsock for anything, ever.

So yeah, not really anything close to Class C.

[sanforce]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still way more than we got in the 4 years preceding, which was zero.

Ahhhhh the good old days of P99, I have great memories of killing 95% of the raid targets for months on end.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

MY GUILD LEADER CAN BEAT UP UR GUILD LEADER

Haha, reminds me of morons driving around with idiotic "Our governor can beat up your governor" bumperstickers when Jesse Ventura was governor of MN. p99 raid guilds doing their best to replicate RL, one clusterfuck at a time.

[ClownGuild]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This won't change BDA's playstyle from what it's been for the last year Class R has been in effect.

Log out your mains close to targets beforehand to speed up mobilization. We will still only track for mobs when it's convenient for our members (we had no trackers for most of the AM hours on Draco today for example). Won't require anyone to poopsock for anything, ever.

So yeah, not really anything close to Class C.

Sounds like Class C. The people who generally force poopsocking is usually Class R guilds on FFA targets. Sooo.. Yeah it's everything like Class C.

[Kushie]

Originally Posted by Llodd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Quite possibly closer to the truth than you think. All those proposals with ultimatums attached were far more representative of a guild coming from class C than R. If we think back to when Rogean and staff got fed up with the hedgimony created by tmo/ib/fe the call was for more of the server to see more of the content. It can't be denied that what is currently happening will be a reversal of that aim.

Depending on what happens in the coming months I would not be suprised to see a guild or two forceably moved into class C.

It's not realistic and it won't happen. You can't turn my troll around on me.