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Knuckle · #**111** 12-25-2010, 05:13 PM

Salty banned? Might as well hang up the p99 pvp towel their making it clear they wont put in a pvp server despite it being a logical and intelligent decision.

jeffd · #**112** 12-25-2010, 05:27 PM

i'm not really sure why some people think making things opensource is a bad idea for emu communities. if the folks at eqemu hadn't made their material available as opensource to nilbog et al, p99 would never even have been started in the first place. you're standing on the shoulders of giants and forgetting you aren't that tall on your own.

like father salty said (r.i.p), the devs have done a massive amount of amazing work and as a result are in a unique position to contribute to the eqemu-pvp project as a whole, for which (and despite what some misinformed angsty nerds keep repeating) there is a massive community. how and if they choose to go about helping is up to the devs, but some of us are just trying to help them see why it's a good idea to contribute to eqemu-pvp.

also, there's no need to get antsy - just have a calm/logical discussion so this thread doesn't end in a bunch of "cooldowns". no need to get worked up over a video games brosefs~

yaaaflow · #**113** 12-25-2010, 05:30 PM

If ya'll PvP dudes want a new pvp server so bad, and there's so many people who want to play it, and you guys all bring SO much to the table in terms of management/programming/testing/whatever skills... why don't you guys just get to work and make it? Why do you need to have the p99 devs hold your hands thru the process? idgi

jeffd · #**114** 12-25-2010, 05:37 PM

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If ya'll PvP dudes want a new pvp server so bad, and there's so many people who want to play it, and you guys all bring SO much to the table in terms of management/programming/testing/whatever skills... why don't you guys just get to work and make it? Why do you need to have the p99 devs hold your hands thru the process? idgi

because that's exactly what "y'all pve dudes" did to get p99 up and running right. thanks for popping into the thread bud.

not really sure why hating pvp and making "YEAH YOU TELL EM" posts after a dev says something is fashionable on this board

Peppa · #**115** 12-25-2010, 05:45 PM

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Why do you need to have the p99 devs hold your hands thru the process? idgi

The codebase is so terrible that it would take at least a year to get to where P99 is today.

Like Jeffd said,

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you're standing on the shoulders of giants and forgetting you aren't that tall on your own.

Peppa misses pvp, egos are too high for their own good. Stupidity is rampant, Eqemu community is getting shut off from the leaders for the sake of proprietary management.

yaaaflow · #**116** 12-25-2010, 05:50 PM

So the p99 devs should hand over their source code, with all the potential problems that entails for this server, so that ya'll have to do less work to make a pvp server?

so what do they get out of this?

Cyrius · #**117** 12-25-2010, 05:54 PM

So you are saying just because the work was based on someone elses work, that 2 years developement time that happened here is worth nothing? So like 80% of the currently registered patents are void, since someone else did the ground work for others?

I realy do not understand you guys, how can you be so arrogant and belive everyone HAS to cater to you right here right now?

If you want it so bad, create it your self. But don't whine just because someone else that is ahead of you will not help you out with their source.

Peppa · #**118** 12-25-2010, 06:05 PM

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2 years developement time that happened here is worth nothing?

Are you serious bro.

The whole discussion is that this project would be perfect for pvp. Stable pvp doesn't exist anywhere.

The development put in on this server is not only important but PARAMOUNT to the overall health of Eqemu.

This server's code is PARAMOUNT to the eqemu community.

The current staff is pushed hard on time to be able to work on this project let alone what sony may or may not do when they drop the ball on progression 2.0.

I don't see how pvp is going to be an option for the next 3 years due to constraints which have been provided to the community in the form of Eqemu server code that is out-date.

Cyrius · #**119** 12-25-2010, 06:07 PM

But this is Project 1999, not EQEmulator. That is what you do not seem to understand. No one here owes you a PvP server.

Peppa · #**120** 12-25-2010, 06:12 PM

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But this is Project 1999, not EQEmulator. That is what you do not seem to understand. No one here owes you a PvP server.

I apologize that you THINK your server is not affiliated solely and directly by the owner of the Eqemu project, but that's the reality.

Nilbog is the leader and director, I agree. But Rogean is the biggest reason why P99 is relevant.

The people before Rogean is what made today possible.

The community keeps you going.

Don't shit on community (pvp).