2020 Post Election MEGAthread

[Gwaihir]

You're not helping anything. Show the evidence. Show the "oh we cant show you" 40 court cases thrown out already. Dont you get it? They can legally LIE to you. They cant to a judge. Why do you think they dont report anything to a judge, like evidence?? Instead they have a "hearing" without anyone under oath LOLOL

You do realize you're talking to an individual outside of the privy of information, don't you.

It's not like the "evidence" your demanding is just waiting for a pleb to crack the davinci code of the Google search engine and input the correct word combo, and viola, proof.

It's a such a fucking stupid proposition.

If "I" had the "proof" you're demanding, I'd already be Hillary'd with 2 to the back of the head

[cd288]

You do realize you're talking to an individual outside of the privy of information, don't you.

It's not like the "evidence" your demanding is just waiting for a pleb to crack the davinci code of the Google search engine and input the correct word combo, and viola, proof.

It's a such a fucking stupid proposition.

If "I" had the "proof" you're demanding, I'd already be Hillary'd with 2 to the back of the head

Ohhhhh I see so now we’re going with the angle of “yeah there was definitely fraud but I/we can’t show you any evidence because they’re burying it and anyone who tries to expose it is immediately deep sixed...but yeah just totally trust us that there was fraud and it’s not just someone who is a pussy and a sore loser over losing the election!!!”

[Lune]

You do realize you're talking to an individual outside of the privy of information, don't you.

It's not like the "evidence" your demanding is just waiting for a pleb to crack the davinci code of the Google search engine and input the correct word combo, and viola, proof.

It's a such a fucking stupid proposition.

If "I" had the "proof" you're demanding, I'd already be Hillary'd with 2 to the back of the head

So you don't have any evidence or proof, gotcha.

So then how do you explain why you believe what you believe? Because Fox News told you Dems bad?

[Lune]

https://i.imgur.com/qMBhhe4.jpg

Good job Trump and Republican simpletons. Does that look v-shaped to you? Doesn't look v-shaped to me.

[FatherSioux]

https://i.imgur.com/qMBhhe4.jpg

Good job Trump and Republican simpletons. Does that look v-shaped to you? Doesn't look v-shaped to me.

Maybe you don't know what V-Shaped means, it doesn't mean exactly a V. I would call that V-Shaped.

[FatherSioux]

may your women meet your dreams first-hand should they come to pass.

you are not a conservative, you are a shallow and aimless radical. With an unhappy heart. This post is all that is needed to diagnose.

Thanks for the diagnoses Doc!

[Caroll]

Donald J. Trump lost the popular vote in both the 2016 and 2020 elections. Donald J. Trump lost the 2020 presidential election to Joseph R. Biden as certified by multiple Republican governors and state-legislators.

When someone loses at a competition that makes them a loser. Sorry to those of you who support losers, it must feel bad to know you're also a loser. Replies will not be read, because you're mad and I won the argument.

[Cassawary]

Thanks for the diagnoses Doc!

The idea that fascism is a form of macho conservatism has damaged the minds of a generation.

[Raev]

Since Lune did call me out, I thought I would post that I think there is pretty good statistical evidence for election fraud. The simplest argument is that Biden's election data totally fail the Benford's Law test (https://lenbilen.com/2020/11/07/benfords-law-and-the-2020-election-a-limerick-on-fraud/). The discrepancy is so bad that Google now has Reuters 'fact check' (https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-benford-idUSKBN27Q3AI) as the first result for searches!

The fact check is itself a gigantic rhetorical fallacy. First they quote "experts" assuring everyone that Benford's Law doesn't always work without any sort of logical reasoning, a classic appeal to authority. Then they spend half their time laughing at some random guy that got it wrong - a classic strawman argument. Finally, they claim that 'because all Milwaukee wards have about 800 people, that Biden should get around half and thus have lots of numbers that begin with 4/5". A cursory glance at actual results (https://county.milwaukee.gov/EN/County-Clerk/Off-Nav/Election-Results/Election-Results-Fall-2020) shows that this is false. The only superficially serious objection that I could find is from 2017 (https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/political-analysis/article/benfords-law-and-the-detection-of-election-fraud/3B1D64E822371C461AF3C61CE91AAF6D), and while I only skimmed it I believe it to be deliberately deceptive as their 'proof' is based on simulations and they only test the 2nd digit, which is much weaker, on actual cases.

If you don't like that, you can try this ZeroHedge article (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/it-defies-logic-scientist-finds-telltale-signs-election-fraud-after-analyzing-mail-ballot) about the mail in ballots. The short version is that in contrast to the sharp differences in vote share between counties, all mail in dumps should have the same percentage of Biden/Trump because the Post Office effectively shuffles the mail in ballots. Instead, in key battleground states that percentage snuck up overnight.

Any election fraud was almost certainly accomplished via Dominion's electronic voting machines. Sidney Powell's lawsuit includes an affidavit by a well respected cyber security expert with an annoying compound name that I can't remember right now where he basically says that a) these machines were designed to commit fraud, and do not even have an audit log b) the entire company has substantial ties to China in multiple ways.

Finally, I consider election fraud to be the default rather than exception, so this is hardly surprising (Remember Stalin? "It's not who votes that counts, but who counts the votes!") It's ridiculous that the Fake news spent multiple years frothing at the mouth about Russian interference in 2016 but now that we have actual video of people in Georgia counting after hours (https://www.cbs46.com/news/lawmakers-hear-bombshell-allegations-of-georgia-election-fraud/article_8404e930-35e5-11eb-8ac3-1fc96e3b52d8.html) we are supposed to assume that a guy who never left his basement or had a rally with more than 10 people won by 10 million votes.

Regardless, I don't really consider election fraud all that important. The real issue is whether the American people will allow themselves to live in an Agenda 2030 totalitarian dictatorship because they are afraid of a virus with a 99.5% survival rate for people under age 70. Corona Circus (https://coronacircus.com/2020/11/07/dusty-finish/) has the best election analysis IMO and I think Trump will likely repeat as president, simply because the Right has the guns and needs to think they are in control.

This post was fact checked as TRUE by independent researchers (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_stRRtPkvc0)

[Caroll]

Since Lune did call me out, I thought I would post that I think there is pretty good statistical evidence for election fraud. The simplest argument is that Biden's election data totally fail the Benford's Law test (https://lenbilen.com/2020/11/07/benfords-law-and-the-2020-election-a-limerick-on-fraud/). The discrepancy is so bad that Google now has Reuters 'fact check' (https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-benford-idUSKBN27Q3AI) as the first result for searches!

The fact check is itself a gigantic rhetorical fallacy. First they quote "experts" assuring everyone that Benford's Law doesn't always work without any sort of logical reasoning, a classic appeal to authority. Then they spend half their time laughing at some random guy that got it wrong - a classic strawman argument. Finally, they claim that 'because all Milwaukee wards have about 800 people, that Biden should get around half and thus have lots of numbers that begin with 4/5". A cursory glance at actual results (https://county.milwaukee.gov/EN/County-Clerk/Off-Nav/Election-Results/Election-Results-Fall-2020) shows that this is false. The only superficially serious objection that I could find is from 2017 (https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/political-analysis/article/benfords-law-and-the-detection-of-election-fraud/3B1D64E822371C461AF3C61CE91AAF6D), and while I only skimmed it I believe it to be deliberately deceptive as their 'proof' is based on simulations and they only test the 2nd digit, which is much weaker, on actual cases.

If you don't like that, you can try this ZeroHedge article (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/it-defies-logic-scientist-finds-telltale-signs-election-fraud-after-analyzing-mail-ballot) about the mail in ballots. The short version is that in contrast to the sharp differences in vote share between counties, all mail in dumps should have the same percentage of Biden/Trump because the Post Office effectively shuffles the mail in ballots. Instead, in key battleground states that percentage snuck up overnight.

Any election fraud was almost certainly accomplished via Dominion's electronic voting machines. Sidney Powell's lawsuit includes an affidavit by a well respected cyber security expert with an annoying compound name that I can't remember right now where he basically says that a) these machines were designed to commit fraud, and do not even have an audit log b) the entire company has substantial ties to China in multiple ways.

Finally, I consider election fraud to be the default rather than exception, so this is hardly surprising (Remember Stalin? "It's not who votes that counts, but who counts the votes!") It's ridiculous that the Fake news spent multiple years frothing at the mouth about Russian interference in 2016 but now that we have actual video of people in Georgia counting after hours (https://www.cbs46.com/news/lawmakers-hear-bombshell-allegations-of-georgia-election-fraud/article_8404e930-35e5-11eb-8ac3-1fc96e3b52d8.html) we are supposed to assume that a guy who never left his basement or had a rally with more than 10 people won by 10 million votes.

Regardless, I don't really consider election fraud all that important. The real issue is whether the American people will allow themselves to live in an Agenda 2030 totalitarian dictatorship because they are afraid of a virus with a 99.5% survival rate for people under age 70.

This post was fact checked as TRUE by independent researchers (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_stRRtPkvc0)

Trump-appointed, Federalist Society appellate, district, and state Supreme Court judges along with the Attorney General found no credible evidence of fraud.

Your YouTube video isn't proof. Facts don't care about your opinions. Better luck next time.

[Caroll]

President-Elect Joseph R. Biden will be the President of the United States.

[Caroll]

The AP quotes Attorney General Barr as saying, quote, "to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have affected a different outcome in the election." In particular, Barr mentioned one claim made by the president's supporters that voting machines were programmed somehow to skew the results. Barr said the Justice Department and the Department of Homeland Security looked into those allegations and said they had not found anything to substantiate them.


"Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy," wrote Judge Stephanos Bibas, a former member of the Federalist Society whom President Trump nominated to the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in 2017. "Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so."

"Voters, not lawyers, choose the President," the court wrote. "Ballots, not briefs, decide elections."

Sorry you lost, better luck next time.

[Raev]

Trump-appointed, Federalist Society appellate, district, and state Supreme Court judges along with the Attorney General found no credible evidence of fraud.

This post was fact checked SCRAWNY GNOLL by independent researchers (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHoqIa1TJ9w)

Edit: it appears Carolls' quadruple rage post was somehow favored by the forum gods, who have leveled him up to Orc. This foul posting fraud will not stand . . . .

[Caroll]

I think the Attorney General and our judicial branch should be investigating Ted Cruz, since he also participated in a rigged election according to POTUS. Anyways, sorry you live on the fringes of society and your candidate lost the election. I think if you try harder next time you might win.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-cruz/trump-accuses-cruz-of-stealing-iowa-caucuses-through-fraud-idUSMTZSAPEC23ZBL9YS

[Gwaihir]

Since Lune did call me out, I thought I would post that I think there is pretty good statistical evidence for election fraud. The simplest argument is that Biden's election data totally fail the Benford's Law test (https://lenbilen.com/2020/11/07/benfords-law-and-the-2020-election-a-limerick-on-fraud/). The discrepancy is so bad that Google now has Reuters 'fact check' (https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-benford-idUSKBN27Q3AI) as the first result for searches!

The fact check is itself a gigantic rhetorical fallacy. First they quote "experts" assuring everyone that Benford's Law doesn't always work without any sort of logical reasoning, a classic appeal to authority. Then they spend half their time laughing at some random guy that got it wrong - a classic strawman argument. Finally, they claim that 'because all Milwaukee wards have about 800 people, that Biden should get around half and thus have lots of numbers that begin with 4/5". A cursory glance at actual results (https://county.milwaukee.gov/EN/County-Clerk/Off-Nav/Election-Results/Election-Results-Fall-2020) shows that this is false. The only superficially serious objection that I could find is from 2017 (https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/political-analysis/article/benfords-law-and-the-detection-of-election-fraud/3B1D64E822371C461AF3C61CE91AAF6D), and while I only skimmed it I believe it to be deliberately deceptive as their 'proof' is based on simulations and they only test the 2nd digit, which is much weaker, on actual cases.

If you don't like that, you can try this ZeroHedge article (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/it-defies-logic-scientist-finds-telltale-signs-election-fraud-after-analyzing-mail-ballot) about the mail in ballots. The short version is that in contrast to the sharp differences in vote share between counties, all mail in dumps should have the same percentage of Biden/Trump because the Post Office effectively shuffles the mail in ballots. Instead, in key battleground states that percentage snuck up overnight.

Any election fraud was almost certainly accomplished via Dominion's electronic voting machines. Sidney Powell's lawsuit includes an affidavit by a well respected cyber security expert with an annoying compound name that I can't remember right now where he basically says that a) these machines were designed to commit fraud, and do not even have an audit log b) the entire company has substantial ties to China in multiple ways.

Finally, I consider election fraud to be the default rather than exception, so this is hardly surprising (Remember Stalin? "It's not who votes that counts, but who counts the votes!") It's ridiculous that the Fake news spent multiple years frothing at the mouth about Russian interference in 2016 but now that we have actual video of people in Georgia counting after hours (https://www.cbs46.com/news/lawmakers-hear-bombshell-allegations-of-georgia-election-fraud/article_8404e930-35e5-11eb-8ac3-1fc96e3b52d8.html) we are supposed to assume that a guy who never left his basement or had a rally with more than 10 people won by 10 million votes.

Regardless, I don't really consider election fraud all that important. The real issue is whether the American people will allow themselves to live in an Agenda 2030 totalitarian dictatorship because they are afraid of a virus with a 99.5% survival rate for people under age 70. Corona Circus (https://coronacircus.com/2020/11/07/dusty-finish/) has the best election analysis IMO and I think Trump will likely repeat as president, simply because the Right has the guns and needs to think they are in control.

This post was fact checked as TRUE by independent researchers (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_stRRtPkvc0)

This is where voter id by blockchain microchip, and viccination I'd by blockchain microchip coverage in "bipartisan" mandates.

It's all part of the show

[Caroll]

This post was fact checked SCRAWNY GNOLL by independent researchers (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHoqIa1TJ9w)

Edit: it appears Carolls' quadruple rage post was somehow favored by the forum gods, who have leveled him up to Orc. This foul posting fraud will not stand . . . .

Interpreting posting on a gaming forum as rage is telling. Hope your problems get better.

:)

[booter]

copers still trying to cope lmao

[White_knight]

Imagine voting Biden JUST because you don't like Trump LOL

Let's vote the senile, career politician who's a puppet in.

Good jerb.

[douglas1999]

copers still trying to cope lmao

I honestly don't believe you are actually laughing your ass off at that gay ass meme. The word cope! Brilliant guys. At least screaming sjw girl and carl the cuck were actually funny.

[kjs86z]

Caroll must be Plinki's new evade account.

Guy is a bitch made liberal retard.

[Ripqozko]

Caroll must be Plinki's new evade account.

Guy is a bitch made liberal retard.

[Caroll]

Donald J. Trump, a one-term president, was defeated by Joseph R. Biden in the 2020 presidential election. What's the name for a person who tries to win and then doesn't?

:) :) :)

Better luck next time.

[booter]

I honestly don't believe you are actually laughing your ass off at that gay ass meme. The word cope! Brilliant guys. At least screaming sjw girl and carl the cuck were actually funny.

ive never seen one person so mad over a few of the words ive used the past few weeks. you've been incensed enough to rage post about "imagine" "insufferable" and now "cope" rofl

got'em

e- almost forgot "lmao"

[Caroll]

Democrats "actually got their a** kicked" in 2016, Trump said at a July 2018 rally in Great Falls, Montana. "306 to 223, that's a pretty good shellacking."

- President Donald J. Trump

I agree! Losing to Joseph R. Biden, who won 306 Electoral College votes, in the freest and fairest election in the history of the world, is quite embarrassing. I'm glad that POTUS, who is a loser by definition, agrees.

[Shourty]

Democrats "actually got their a** kicked" in 2016, Trump said at a July 2018 rally in Great Falls, Montana. "306 to 223, that's a pretty good shellacking."

- President Donald J. Trump

I agree! Losing to Joseph R. Biden, who won 306 Electoral College votes, in the freest and fairest election in the history of the world, is quite embarrassing. I'm glad that POTUS, who is a loser by definition, agrees.

Snot over yet. The news media don't get to anoint the leader of the free world.

[Ripqozko]

Donald J. Trump, a one-term president, was defeated by Joseph R. Biden in the 2020 presidential election. What's the name for a person who tries to win and then doesn't?

:) :) :)

Better luck next time.

What’s name of those that voted for Biden? Unemployed

[imperiouskitten]

What’s name of those that voted for Biden? Unemployed

My friend Ebenezzar did, he's not unemployed he retired in 1898. he said his grandparents did too

[azeth]

My friend Ebenezzar did, he's not unemployed he retired in 1898. he said his grandparents did too

This was funny

[cd288]

There was such a massive fraud, especially in Georgia, but hey Georgia Republicans you should totally come out and vote in the Senate run off using the same procedures, same ballots, and same machines that fraudulently caused Trump to lose the state...but if we win the Senate race using all of those same procedures and methods it won’t be fraudulent at all because we won!

[Baler]

So what's everyone's plans for the holida--lockdown criminal offense if found in the streets.

[Gravydoo II]

They've been having hearings for the last several days with the actual specific evidence. They are very dry and boring, but most have been streamed on youtube (mainstream news of course does not cover them). I've watched most of them.

Some noteworthy bits:

Democrat turnout being up something like 400% specifically in counties crucial for winning swing states, while dem turnout in other counties in the same state barely raised at all compared to 2016



Name those counties. Show us your numbers. I want to see the populations, the eligible voters, and the election results. To arrive at 400% you must have had those numbers to do your math. Lets see them, your math, and the names of those counties.

Oh let me guess... you're not my researcher?? You're not willing to show your math?? You must have had those three figures to come up with your 400%.

[Caroll]

Snot over yet. The news media don't get to anoint the leader of the free world.

Republican Governor of Arizona Doug Ducey, who first acknowledged that Biden won the state last week, joined with other top officials to sign off on the certification on Monday, while remarking that the state conducts elections "well" and that its "system is strong."

Republican Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp on Friday signed the paperwork that officially grants the state's 16 electoral votes to President-elect Joe Biden.
"State law now requires the governor's office to formalize the certification, which paves the way for the Trump campaign to pursue other legal options and a separate recount if they choose," Kemp said, later adding, "As governor, I have a solemn responsibility to follow the law, and that is what I will do."

Do the governors and secretaries of states get to "anoint" the President of the United States? I forget. Sorry you lost! Don't bother voting in Georgia, the whole system is rigged.

[Ripqozko]

Republican Governor of Arizona Doug Ducey, who first acknowledged that Biden won the state last week, joined with other top officials to sign off on the certification on Monday, while remarking that the state conducts elections "well" and that its "system is strong."

Republican Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp on Friday signed the paperwork that officially grants the state's 16 electoral votes to President-elect Joe Biden.
"State law now requires the governor's office to formalize the certification, which paves the way for the Trump campaign to pursue other legal options and a separate recount if they choose," Kemp said, later adding, "As governor, I have a solemn responsibility to follow the law, and that is what I will do."

Do the governors and secretaries of states get to "anoint" the President of the United States? I forget. Sorry you lost! Don't bother voting in Georgia, the whole system is rigged.

What made ya switch to a 3rd account plinki instead of ya main or pretzelle

[Gravydoo II]

What’s name of those that voted for Biden? Unemployed

I did. I voted 19 times and I made 900 ballots to turn in, too. I also hacked into the computers to make the values for every biden vote to be 1.2 and every trump votes value to be .8. That way, no matter what, biden would win. Cause im like, a haxxorzz.

The funny thing is, the exact same thing could be said about trump. Oh there is massive fraud, trump needs to be investigated for it. Trump hired dominion because of his family connections to hugo chavez and Venezuela from his fathers human trafficking days. He also told putin to help him, again, so putin sent in the hackers. They then changed all the vote values to be trump = 1.5 and biden = .5 so it would take 2 biden votes to equal one. Two trump votes would be 3. Plenty of people saw TRUMP 2020 MAGA vans pulling up, loaded with boxes of ballots all filled out already. Those ballots were then counted multiple times, i saw it myself. They wouldnt let democrats in the room either. Oh and some republicans were wearing "blue lives matters" shirts and were really intimidating (actual complaint in court). One of them was also wearing sparkling clothing, which was really distracting (another actual complaint in court from trump lawyers). North Korean submarines pulled up in maine, dropped off tons of trump votes, those were counted several times overs, too. (rudy said that, today, seriously look it up) BUT HE STILL LOST TO A 79 YEAR OLD GUY WITH DEMENTIA, COMMUNIST SOUL, IS OWNED BY CHINA, AND PLANS TO TAX EVERYONE 400% MORE and more communism... :D

[Caroll]

RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!!! DUDE!!!! RELEASE IT!!!

1. A witness in a lawsuit from allies of President Donald Trump trying to overturn democracy in Michigan said the votes in Edison County "are cause for concern and indicate fraud" because President-elect Joe Biden won "more than 100% of the votes." There's just one problem: There is no Edison County in Michigan, the Detroit Free Press pointed out. In fact, there is no Edison County in the entire United States of America.

2. In the Georgia suit, the word district was misspelled twice on the first page of the document: There was an extra c for “DISTRICCT,” and then it was spelled “DISTRCOICT.”

3. "I think all Chinese people look the same" this woman just cited as a reason we need a voter ID law.

This is all part of the 6d chess that this legal strike team is playing, you'll all see soon!

Better luck in 2024.

:) :) :)

President-Elect Joseph R. Biden defeated Donald J. Trump in the 2020 presidential election earning the most votes in the history of all democracies.

[Baler]

Hillary is so mad they didn't cheat for her like this.

[Gravydoo II]

ive never seen one person so mad over a few of the words ive used the past few weeks. you've been incensed enough to rage post about "imagine" "insufferable" and now "cope" rofl

got'em

e- almost forgot "lmao"

Dude, they are getting fleeced. Trump already made 170 million off these guys to "fight" court cases. They already lost 40 cases... 40. So they spent like 6k of that money on court cases. The other $169,994,000 goes to trump and family. You cannot tell someone they are being fleeced. They WANT it. They WANT to believe this fantasy. You're trying to strip away that is now something that is part of their IDENTITY. They cant quit him until they realize hes taking them for a ride, just like Qanon.

[Baler]

politics is asking for money to beat the other person. All sides do it, it's the name of the game. Give me money so bad person doesn't do something you disagree with.

[douglas1999]

Misspelling gate! Things on documents being misspelled means everything contained in said document is untrue. Sound logic.

Seriously have any of you trump-degrangement sufferers actually watched any of these hearings?

Trump didn't lose 40 cases. Republicans in states filing suits on their own and losing doesn't magically count toward the failed trump suit counter. Also if you don't think perfectly legitimate evidence can be presented, and the wrong verdict rendered by a jury or judge with their own fallible biases, please see the oj simpson trial. You seem to have the utmost confidence in the competence of our legal system when it suits you.

I seriously don't think this is gonna flip anything, it's simply worth investigating. But continue to paint anyone making perfectly rational statements like that as some kind of rabid trump maga hat guy. I didn't vote for the guy in 2016. I did vote for him this year because biden and kamala harris suck so incredibly badly. I'm a registered democrat.

Also my beef with "cope" is that it's a shitty meme, and I respect good memes. The left sucks at them. Try harder is all.

[Caroll]

Misspelling gate! Things on documents being misspelled means everything contained in said document is untrue. Sound logic.

Seriously have any of you trump-degrangement sufferers actually watched any of these hearings?

Trump didn't lose 40 cases. Republicans in states filing suits on their own and losing doesn't magically count toward the failed trump suit counter. Also if you don't think perfectly legitimate evidence can be presented, and the wrong verdict rendered by a jury or judge with their own fallible biases, please see the oj simpson trial. You seem to have the utmost confidence in the competence of our legal system when it suits you.

I seriously don't think this is gonna flip anything, it's simply worth investigating. But continue to paint anyone making perfectly rational statements like that as some kind of rabid trump maga hat guy. I didn't vote for the guy in 2016. I did vote for him this year because biden and kamala harris suck so incredibly badly. I'm a registered democrat.

Also my beef with "cope" is that it's a shitty meme, and I respect good memes. The left sucks at them. Try harder is all.


You're right, the whole system is rigged. Don't ever vote again. Also, I didn't read a single word in your post. :) :) :)


President-Elect (and savior of democracy and America) Joseph R. Biden earned the most votes in the history of any democracy on the planet Earth.

P.S. I live in Georgia and I can't wait to vote.

P.P.S. RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!!!!!

[douglas1999]

You're right, the whole system is rigged. Don't ever vote again. Also, I didn't read a single word in your post. :) :) :)


President-Elect (and savior of democracy and America) Joseph R. Biden earned the most votes in the history of any democracy on the planet Earth.

P.S. I live in Georgia and I can't wait to vote.

P.P.S. RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!!!!!

That's great caroll, booyahhh. Excellent contribution to the topic here in this discussion forum. :)

Very mature, sane and well balanced.

Dude, they are getting fleeced. Trump already made 170 million off these guys to "fight" court cases. They already lost 40 cases... 40. So they spent like 6k of that money on court cases. The other $169,994,000 goes to trump and family. You cannot tell someone they are being fleeced. They WANT it. They WANT to believe this fantasy. You're trying to strip away that is now something that is part of their IDENTITY. They cant quit him until they realize hes taking them for a ride, just like Qanon.

What in god's name are you talking about? Like I said above, they've only filed 3 suits. Other republicans, of their own volition, and not funded by trump, have filed other suits. Also I'm sure it costs a tad more than 6k to litigate widespread election impropriety allegations in multiple states in a US presidential election that saw a 150 million total voter turnout. Do you know anything about how the real world works at all? You literally seem to think trump is like a bond villain and that life is an episode of Law & Order

[Elrood]

Hillary is so mad they didn't cheat for her like this.

Your signature suits you perfectly

[Caroll]

THE KRAKEN HAS BEEN RELEASED!!!!

THE SMOKING GUN:

As evidence of fabricated ballots, Powell offers an affidavit from Matt Ciantir, who says he was walking his dog on "the afternoon following the election" when he saw "a young couple" in their late teens or early 20s transfer several "very large clear plastic bags" from their van to a "running USPS vehicle." He thought that was "odd," because "they did not walk inside the post office like a normal customer to drop of [sic] mail." Rather, "it was as if the postal worker was told to meet and standby until these large bags arrived." Another "oddity" was "the appearance of the couple": "After the drop, they were smiling, laughing at one another."


Oh my god!!! THE KRAKEN!!!!

[Caroll]

That's great caroll, booyahhh. Excellent contribution to the topic here in this discussion forum. :)

Very mature, sane and well balanced.

Donald J. Trump lost the 2020 election to President-Elect Joseph R. Biden.

[Caroll]

THE MANY TENTACLES OF THE KRAKEN!!!!

Kellyanne Conway, former adviser and White House counselor to President Trump:
“If you look at the vote totals in the Electoral College tally, it looks like Joe Biden and Kamala Harris will prevail,” Conway said in an interview with The 19th. “I assume the electors will certify that and it will be official. We, as a nation, will move forward, because we always do."

On the historic and masturbatory day of November 7, 2020, Joseph R. Biden (earned the most votes in the history of any election) defeated Donald J. Trump in what has been described by the [loser of the election] as:

"...a massive landslide victory, as you know, in the Electoral College. I guess the final numbers are now at 306," Trump said in an interview on Fox News Sunday.

:)
:)
:)
:)

REPUBLICANS!!! HEAR THIS!!! Never vote again. The system is rigged (especially in Georgia).

[Elrood]

Misspelling gate! Things on documents being misspelled means everything contained in said document is untrue. Sound logic.

Seriously have any of you trump-degrangement sufferers actually watched any of these hearings?

Trump didn't lose 40 cases. Republicans in states filing suits on their own and losing doesn't magically count toward the failed trump suit counter. Also if you don't think perfectly legitimate evidence can be presented, and the wrong verdict rendered by a jury or judge with their own fallible biases, please see the oj simpson trial. You seem to have the utmost confidence in the competence of our legal system when it suits you.

I seriously don't think this is gonna flip anything, it's simply worth investigating. But continue to paint anyone making perfectly rational statements like that as some kind of rabid trump maga hat guy. I didn't vote for the guy in 2016. I did vote for him this year because biden and kamala harris suck so incredibly badly. I'm a registered democrat.

Also my beef with "cope" is that it's a shitty meme, and I respect good memes. The left sucks at them. Try harder is all.

Look how extremely mad this guy is.

He's really going to miss Ivanka and Jared.

[imperiouskitten]

Not one of these are specific, documented, or widespread. [Citation needed], which I guess you would have learned in college.

What about Republicans (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/12/us/politics/california-gop-drop-boxes.html) placing fake ballot boxes all over California (https://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/ccrov/pdf/2020/october/20240jl.pdf)?

Why can't you 1d conservatives come up with an original thought of your own, one thing that departs from mainstream Fox News/Facebook meme conservatism? You support Daddy Trump 100% and it's embarrassing. If you have a mind of your own, your beliefs should diverge at least a little bit.

I'm generally left wing but I don't support immigration, affirmative action, or any number of other things Democrats do. I applauded Trump's efforts to crack down on China and H1B Visas which siphon high-paying professional jobs to low-paid Filipino immigrants. The wall was a stupid idea but we need to crack down on the hiring of illegal immigrants by businesses. I support nationalism and a distinct American national identity. ETC

It's just clear that you don't actually have any political opinions, just echoes of Fox News and Trump's twitter. It's also really sad and boring. At least when someone like Raev posts you hear something original and thoughtful.

Thanks for posting this, I couldn't really be bothered. He heard people say things on TV, no docs, no facts, no beef.

[Caroll]

****BREAKING NEWS****

Biden wins presidency, Trump denied second term in White House, Fox News projects.

What does the [loser of the 2020 president election] say in response? READ BELOW:

“Healthy young child goes to doctor, gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines, doesn’t feel good and changes – AUTISM. Many such cases!”

****BREAKING NEWS****

:) :)
:) :)
:) :)

Prove me wrong.

[Ripqozko]

relax plinki

[Caroll]

Relax and HEED the words of DEAR LEADER:

"I have never seen a thin person drinking Diet Coke."

- President Donald J. Trump after learning of his Electoral College [landslide] and popular vote loss in the free and fair 2020 presidential election.

:) :) :)

[BarnabusCollins]

Here's what's sad: Trump only won 2016 because he ran against Hillary Clinton.

[Caroll]

Here's what's sad: Trump only won 2016 because he ran against Hillary Clinton.

"The only thing more RIGGED than the 2020 Presidential Election is the FAKE NEWS SUPPRESSED MEDIA. No matter how big or important the story, if it is even slightly positive for “us”, or negative for “them”, it will not be reported!"

- Donald J. Trump (lost the 2020 presidential election to Joseph Renee Zellweger Biden in the most transparent election in history)

[Caroll]

“You know Sean, one of my favorite...some say the best, most beautiful quotes in all of history...that's just what everyone's saying and, you know, I agree with them is this:

"If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.”

It's just something, you know, that I've always, like, it's beautiful and a lot of people have said so, used through my life."

- Donald J. Trump, (lost the 2020 presidential election to Joseph Robinette Biden)

[Caroll]

F L O O D T H E Z O N E

[BarnabusCollins]

Vladimir knew better than to let Hillary win. Hahaha.

biden's gonna be no fun to make fun of on SNL. Alec Baldwin did a superb job making me crack up doing Trump.

The bigger their ego is, the funnier it is by orders of magnitude mocking them.

[reebz]

what is it with brain dead eq emu players and their love for trump.

[BarnabusCollins]

what is it with brain dead eq emu players and their love for trump.

Trump winning 2016 prevented a US/NATO attack on Russia by ground units in Poland.
Crazy shit huh?

As soon as the AP says he lost 2020 Israel murders Iran's nuke scientist. That like murdering Albert Einstein WTF

Edit:
Let's dig a little deeper shall we, past the roots of the nation versus nation history of civilization. We are at present time, in the grasp of the New World Order. What does that mean? It means any wars will be with other nations' non-members, (not leaders/rulers) like Al Qaeda and ISIS for example. No wars will ever be nuclear, as every nation with that capability is a member of the New World Order. Everything they own (all territory) will be rebuilt and franchised with the Monopoly corporations they own, as a whole. That means, US versus Chinese (or Russian) corporation competition really isn't there in reality; they all feed on the populations of the masses of public in every territory they have the power to. They will all base the plants in the places where the cheapest labor possible is, or, if needed, the highest intellects/skills (Silicon Valley). This new (last 3 decades) global order is permanent.

[Caroll]

what is it with brain dead eq emu players and their love for trump.

I think it has a lot to do with living an unsatisfactory life. Many studies have shown that approximately 97.4% of people who identify as a "Trump supporter" suffer from multiple comorbidities included but not limited to the follow:

1. Obesity
2. Poverty
3. Ill-developed male genitalia
4. Fear of intelligent women (see: hatred of Hillary Clinton, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez)
5. Early onset Type II Diabetes

It's all been studied into the ground and everyone agrees with it.

[reebz]

I think it has a lot to do with living an unsatisfactory life. Many studies have shown that approximately 97.4% of people who identify as a "Trump supporter" suffer from multiple comorbidities included but not limited to the follow:

1. Obesity
2. Poverty
3. Ill-developed male genitalia
4. Fear of intelligent women (see: hatred of Hillary Clinton, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez)
5. Early onset Type II Diabetes

It's all been studied into the ground and everyone agrees with it.

yeah i read a few of these studies. the part that really interested me was the fear of intelligent women. it directly correlated to the ill-developed male genitalia, their fear of these women that have actual intellect and independence and have no interest in them because of their dicks.

[reebz]

Trump winning 2016 prevented a US/NATO attack on Russia by ground units in Poland.
Crazy shit huh?

As soon as the AP says he lost 2020 Israel murders Iran's nuke scientist. That like murdering Albert Einstein WTF

Edit:
Let's dig a little deeper shall we, past the roots of the nation versus nation history of civilization. We are at present time, in the grasp of the New World Order. What does that mean? It means any wars will be with other nations' non-members, (not leaders/rulers) like Al Qaeda and ISIS for example. No wars will ever be nuclear, as every nation with that capability is a member of the New World Order. Everything they own (all territory) will be rebuilt and franchised with the Monopoly corporations they own, as a whole. That means, US versus Chinese (or Russian) corporation competition really isn't there in reality; they all feed on the populations of the masses of public in every territory they have the power to. They will all base the plants in the places where the cheapest labor possible is, or, if needed, the highest intellects/skills (Silicon Valley). This new (last 3 decades) global order is permanent.

sorry what.

[Shourty]

yeah i\\ their fear of these women that have actual intellect and independence and have no interest in them because of their dicks.

Yeah, I feel I fall into this group. I fear women with dicks.

[Caroll]

Yeah, I feel I fall into this group. I fear women with dicks.

This isn't a space for transphobia, it's 2020. If that bothers you, go clutch your pearls elsewhere. Reported.

[BarnabusCollins]

Edit:
Let's dig a little deeper shall we, past the roots of the nation versus nation history of civilization. We are at present time, in the grasp of the New World Order. What does that mean? It means any wars will be with other nations' non-members, (not leaders/rulers) like Al Qaeda and ISIS for example. No wars will ever be nuclear, as every nation with that capability is a member of the New World Order. Everything they own (all territory) will be rebuilt and franchised with the Monopoly corporations they own, as a whole. That means, US versus Chinese (or Russian) corporation competition really isn't there in reality; they all feed on the populations of the masses of public in every territory they have the power to. They will all base the plants in the places where the cheapest labor possible is, or, if needed, the highest intellects/skills (Silicon Valley). This new (last 3 decades) global order is permanent.

The point of that paragraph is: things are not going to change. Not going to 'get better'. The way is it is the way it will stay until they, the Order of the Illuminati, want change. Then, that change will occur, quickly or after some time has passed, years/decades even. The show we're left with is: What do they want?

[Cassawary]

What is Section 230?
Section 230 is a provision in the 1996 Communications Decency Act, itself part of Title V of the Telecommunications Act of 1996. The Telecommunications Act of 1996 amended wide portions of the Communications Act of 1934, in an effort to update the old law and bring the emerging Internet communications under the purview of the Federal Communications Commission. By and large, the 1996 law moved the Internet under similar regulations as television, radio, or printed communications, eliminating older platform-based policies with regulations on the content of speech rather than the medium of speech.

Section 230 itself is rather brief, particularly in the portions that matter. Most of the law is contained in c(2), the portion dealing with liability. The relevant text for this discussion is c(1) and c(2)A: " (1)Treatment of publisher or speaker

No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider.

(2)Civil liability

No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be held liable on account of—

**(A)**any action voluntarily taken in good faith to restrict access to or availability of material that the provider or user considers to be obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected". In more basic terms, a website may not be held liable for content hosted on its site that it did not directly publish. Ergo, the Washington Post may be sued or charged for its own published articles, but not for the comments section. Now many take this to mean that moderation is not necessary, or that Section 230's liability shield is the cause of lax moderation. However, this is not the case.

A Tale of Two Publishers - History of Section 230
To understand Section 230's role, it's important to consider the context of its passage. Two major cases set the stage for Section 230: Cubby Inc v CompuServe Inc and Stratton Oakmont Inc v Prodigy Services Co. The facts of both cases were remarkably similar: CompuServe was an ISP that hosted its own online news forum. On this forum, a newsletter called Rumorville USA published defamatory content about Cubby, Inc and its competing newsletter. At trial, CompuServe conceded that they had hosted the content and that the content was defamatory, but demonstrated that they had contracted out responsibility for moderating the forum. Because they had no knowledge of the defamatory content, they were not held liable for its defamation by the SDNY District Court. This was consistent with the 1959 Supreme Court case Smith v California, which held that a law prohibiting possession of "obscene" books could not be enforced against Smith, a book store owner, as Smith did not have direct knowledge of the obscene content. The majority held that to hold otherwise would require book stores to have direct knowledge of every book they sold, which would invariably lead to a massive reduction in books available for sale, and that even if the obscene content may be regulated, this regulation applies to publishers, not platforms.

Three years later, the New York Supreme Court took up Stratton Oakmont v Prodigy Services, which on its face had similar facts: Prodigy hosted an online forum, Money Talk, on which an anonymous user posted allegations that Stratton Oakmont and its president had engaged in fraud during their initial stock offer. Stratton Oakmont sued Prodigy for defamation, even though Prodigy had not directly published the material. However, the court here ruled against Prodigy and held them liable. The basis was that Prodigy's Money Talk was directly moderated by Prodigy and had defined rules about content. This, according to the court, removed their shield: "Prodigy's conscious choice, to gain the benefits of editorial control, has opened it up to a greater liability than CompuServe and other computer networks that make no such choice." In essence, a forum which moderated content -- perhaps by removing misinformation, or flagging misinformation -- could be held liable for user-generated content that was defamatory, while a site with no moderation could not.

Then representatives Chris Cox (R-CA) and Ron Wyden (D-OR) introduced Section 230 to the already proposed Telecommunications Act, which had already existing language directing websites to control the transmission of "obscene" content to minors. Without such a provision, by the existing precedent, sites either could have complied with limiting access to "obscene" content by minors or could be shielded from defamation and libel suits, but not both. As such, without Section 230, any site with user-generated content could have faced civil suits for defamation or libel contained only within user-generated content. Thus Section 230 was introduced to provide this shield and allow for web forums to be moderated without opening the door for wider suits.

Section 230 had pretty immediate ramifications. Zeran v AOL in 1997 held that AOL could not be held liable for their failure to "timely remove" libelous content, with the Court explaining: "Faced with potential liability for each message republished by their services, interactive computer service providers might choose to severely restrict the number and type of messages posted." This was not a blanket immunity, however. Fair Housing Council v Roommates held that Roommates.com was not protected by Section 230 against suits arising from the Fair Housing Act, as Roommates.com had expressly created the ability to filter by race and thus facilitated the illegal discrimination. A similar case was made in the passage of FOSTA/SESTA, and websites were no longer shielded for "facilitating" sex trafficking. Further, sites can still be held responsible for user-generated content they had knowledge of for other cases: Internet Brands was held criminally negligent for failing to inform an anonymous user of rape threats made against her that they had demonstrably known about.

Criticisms and Alternatives to Section 230
Recently, there's been a movement to review Section 230 in two directions. From the right, many push to require "neutrality" by publishers and prohibit them from discriminating based on "political views". This is an odd and unfeasible path forward, for numerous reasons but not in small part because there is a great deal of speech that is protected as "political speech" but that nonetheless would be tremendously unappealing for companies to host. Imagine, for example, if a forum was prohibited from removing content that calls for genocide or violence on the basis that those views may be "protected political speech," and beyond that even user-created and moderated forums would be held to those standards so long as the website was responsible for the moderation tools existing. From the left, there has been a push to require sites to be more active in removing hate speech or misinformation. However merely removing these protections would largely bring us back to the pre-230 era where companies were encouraged not to moderate as means of avoiding liability. Stronger proposals would be likely to cause sites to opt for no user-generated content, as monitoring and moderating every post to avoid any false content would be a massive and implausible undertaking.

While simple repealing of Section 230 protections, or directives to remove all misleading or defamatory content are implausible, US law does have a remedy: the DMCA takedown notice. While DMCAs are notoriously misused and subject to their own set of problems, it handled a similar issue concerning copyrighted material posted on platforms by users. Under a DMCA takedown notice, a publisher or platform is notified of copyrighted material on their site and (typically) given a summary of reasons the copyright owner believes the material in question is infringement. These also are required to give some explanation on why Fair Use doctrine would not apply and can face civil suits if filing a DMCA takedown without a good-faith argument against Fair Use. A site faces liability for copyrighted materials only if a DMCA takedown notice is issued and they choose to ignore it. Further, users may file counter-notices or counter-claims, and present their own evidence for fair use, and the material can be re-instated without liability if the original copyright holder fails to challenge the notice. This is a very imperfect system, but could at least serve as a guide for revising Section 230 to create some degree of compelling sites to address misinformation without unduly burdening them. This is the method used in EU's Directive 2000/31/EC (their broad E-Commerce Directive), which grants liability protection provided that the publisher in question had no knowledge of the illegal content. The obvious rejoinder is the Streisand Effect, and there's little reason to think that if, for example, Twitter were to remove defamatory tweets that the misinformation would be ended.

As to matters of hate speech, there's really nothing to be done. Sites cannot be compelled to remove the speech any more than the US government can prohibit hate speech, and the US government's power to prohibit hate speech is practically nonexistent. They are under no obligation to do so, or not to do so. And proposals one way or the other are unlikely to change that, except for the possibility that a complete elimination of Section 230 would mean they have strong incentives to revert to no moderation. Other attempts to force moderation of extremism by sites, or to curb radicalization, are going to be as fruitless as attempting to do so in any public forum.

Finally as to charges of political bias, there's really no case to be made here either. Removing protections for sites that demonstrate "bias" is going to be running against a lot of very difficult legal challenges. The first is that drafting legislation requiring moderation to be "politically neutral" or to not discriminate on "political views" is going to have difficulty avoiding a strikedown for vagueness. Under US constitutional law, a law must provide "explicit standards" for interpreting what is and is not a violation. If courts must decide and explain what is meant by a demonstrated political bias, or similar language, it will be difficult to enforce or uphold the law, and finding a suitable method for defining political bias is pretty implausible.

Conclusions (TL;DR)
Section 230 was passed with the explicit intent of shielding websites from liability for defamation claims should they moderate. Without Section 230, liability shielding for defamation would exist only for sites that do not moderate, and thus a site which takes efforts to stop misinformation is more liable, not less, for user-generated content. While there are plausible alternatives to Section 230, and ways to change it to make companies more responsive to taking down false or misleading content, these still require the basic framework of Section 230. But removing it wholesale would lead either to complete eliminations of forums or to a complete elimination of moderating efforts in forums far more than it would address misinformation.

[Elrood]

When Biden won the election weeks ago, I was happy but quiet. I had no interest in rubbing it Trump supporters' faces. We won, they lost, let's all move on to greener pastures.

But their delusional beliefs and conspiracies, their complete willingness to overturn the fair results of a presidential election due to their inability to look reality in the face and accept it just makes me so fucking glad they lost. Not that Trump lost, no. That his supporters lost. These people deserve nothing but to be relegated to the slums of society. And frankly they're already there, loud and lonely. But I want them to stay there forever, and I'm glad they will.

[imperiouskitten]

When Biden won the election weeks ago, I was happy but quiet. I had no interest in rubbing it Trump supporters' faces. We won, they lost, let's all move on to greener pastures.

But their delusional beliefs and conspiracies, their complete willingness to overturn the fair results of a presidential election due to their inability to look reality in the face and accept it just makes me so fucking glad they lost. Not that Trump lost, no. That his supporters lost. These people deserve nothing but to be relegated to the slums of society. And frankly they're already there, loud and lonely. But I want them to stay there forever, and I'm glad they will.

It's sad and they're very sick, but I wish something good would happen and shine a light in their lives. It's what saved me from the blackpill

[imperiouskitten]

This isn't a space for transphobia, it's 2020. If that bothers you, go clutch your pearls elsewhere. Reported.

funny irony cuz it literally is luddite pearl-clutching. we're on a fantasy elf forum and you retards aren't excited about cyborg cuties who give gr8 head. your dumb as fuck

[Gravydoo II]

funny irony cuz it literally is luddite pearl-clutching. we're on a fantasy elf forum and you retards aren't excited about cyborg cuties who give gr8 head. your dumb as fuck

Where da cyborg butts?

[Elrood]

It's sad and they're very sick, but I wish something good would happen and shine a light in their lives. It's what saved me from the blackpill

The only positive thing that can happen in these people's lives is that they pull their heads out of their own asses and gain just a modicum of critical thinking ability. But that will never, ever happen, because having their heads up their own ass is these peoples' entire identity.

[douglas1999]

*high five* sick burns all around.

Any actual content to contribute to the thread? Or.... no?

[douglas1999]

When Biden won the election weeks ago, I was happy but quiet. I had no interest in rubbing it Trump supporters' faces. We won, they lost, let's all move on to greener pastures.

But their delusional beliefs and conspiracies, their complete willingness to overturn the fair results of a presidential election due to their inability to look reality in the face and accept it just makes me so fucking glad they lost. Not that Trump lost, no. That his supporters lost. These people deserve nothing but to be relegated to the slums of society. And frankly they're already there, loud and lonely. But I want them to stay there forever, and I'm glad they will.

Sounds great furor. You could replace just a few words in this psychotic drivel and it would be indistinguishable from an excerpt of mein kampf.

Most sane people don't wish eternal misery on those they deem their political enemies. Please seek help.

To contribute content though; that powell chick does seem like a conspiracy nutcase. There's a reason the trump legal team distanced themselves from her. The rest of the evidence is not conspiratorial at all, and you're doing yourself a disservice to be incurious about it. It betrays a certain fear you have that biden might not have won fairly, but you'd rather not know. Don't you want to know? It's important.

[Elrood]

The rest of the evidence is not conspiratorial at all, and you're doing yourself a disservice to be incurious about it. It betrays a certain fear you have that biden might not have won fairly

Head up your fucking ass

[douglas1999]

Head up your fucking ass

Excellent argument, rebuttal and post. A+ buddy.

Have you watched any of the hearings regarding fraud and impropriety? I mean I know the answer is no, so it's more of a rhetorical question. I guess the real question would be why haven't you?

[Caroll]

President-Elect Joseph R. Biden

[imperiouskitten]

*high five* sick burns all around.

Any actual content to contribute to the thread? Or.... no?

why would i post content for you, everytime i demonstrate a superior argument you ghost. take one on the chin insecure babby-brain. and let's drop the affect of big boy discussion when your arguments while getting pinned by a gott-damn wiki article are "your a tranny" and you have nothing to say about it. You're a bad-faith turd

[FatherSioux]

Libs love to claim the moral high ground on one hand and claim anyone who doesn’t hold their views is evil in the other.

Conservatives get confused on how people like this survive in this world. Big difference.

[imperiouskitten]

Libs love to claim the moral high ground on one hand and claim anyone who doesn’t hold their views is evil in the other.

Conservatives get confused on how people like this survive in this world. Big difference.

You want a purge of the United States population. what are you even talking about lol. you are neither conservative nor liberal, but repugnant and bitter.

maga lol, cut tax and spend so good conservative economy xD

im a conservative cos he have a red hat! burn the institutions to the ground! i'm moving to a browner state!

[reebz]

checking in. joe biden still the winner of the 2020 election. aoc still hot and smart. trump still orange and obese.

[Caroll]

Sounds great furor. You could replace just a few words in this psychotic drivel and it would be indistinguishable from an excerpt of mein kampf.

Most sane people don't wish eternal misery on those they deem their political enemies. Please seek help.

To contribute content though; that powell chick does seem like a conspiracy nutcase. There's a reason the trump legal team distanced themselves from her. The rest of the evidence is not conspiratorial at all, and you're doing yourself a disservice to be incurious about it. It betrays a certain fear you have that biden might not have won fairly, but you'd rather not know. Don't you want to know? It's important.

Donald J. Trump lost the presidential election to Joseph R. Biden in the most secure and free election in the history of democracy.

[Topgunben]

Donald J. Trump lost the presidential election to Joseph R. Biden in the most secure and free election in the history of democracy.

What are you basing this claim on?

[Topgunben]

checking in. joe biden still the winner of the 2020 election. aoc still hot and smart. trump still orange and obese.

AOC is not bad looking, but she’s got that crazy eye look going on. However, there’s no way in hell she is smart.

[Domo]

https://i.imgur.com/YdBDOar.jpg

[BarnabusCollins]

The head of the dragon made a critical error and gave rise to a new dragon, which then ate it.

[Lune]

Reasons why I have a sliver of hope for a good outcome in Georgia:

1. Republicans were super motivated to vote for Trump. They care substantially less about Republicans in general.

2. The runoff is occurring at the height of a pandemic and Republicans are far less likely to cast absentee ballots.

3. Trump has spent the last several months undermining the integrity of Georgia's elections, attacking Georgia's Republican figureheads including its governor and secretary of state, to the extent that some Republicans in Georgia have no faith in the electoral process and believe their vote won't be counted.

That said, Georgia's Democrat voters are outnumbered and Democrats are notoriously bad at voting in non-presidential elections. It's also possible Trump's rhetoric will motivate Republicans to make it so lopsided that their pretend fraud will be difficult or impossible.

she’s got that crazy eye look going on

That's a good thing :)

[BarnabusCollins]

Ya'll still buy the democrat versus republican deal, huh. Good luck. Hey, I tried, I gave it a valiant effort. Some men, you just can't reach. That's the way he wants it. Well, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you do.

[Lune]

Since Lune did call me out, I thought I would post that I think there is pretty good statistical evidence for election fraud. The simplest argument is that Biden's election data totally fail the Benford's Law test (https://lenbilen.com/2020/11/07/benfords-law-and-the-2020-election-a-limerick-on-fraud/). The discrepancy is so bad that Google now has Reuters 'fact check' (https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-benford-idUSKBN27Q3AI) as the first result for searches!

The fact check is itself a gigantic rhetorical fallacy. First they quote "experts" assuring everyone that Benford's Law doesn't always work without any sort of logical reasoning, a classic appeal to authority. Then they spend half their time laughing at some random guy that got it wrong - a classic strawman argument. Finally, they claim that 'because all Milwaukee wards have about 800 people, that Biden should get around half and thus have lots of numbers that begin with 4/5". A cursory glance at actual results (https://county.milwaukee.gov/EN/County-Clerk/Off-Nav/Election-Results/Election-Results-Fall-2020) shows that this is false. The only superficially serious objection that I could find is from 2017 (https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/political-analysis/article/benfords-law-and-the-detection-of-election-fraud/3B1D64E822371C461AF3C61CE91AAF6D), and while I only skimmed it I believe it to be deliberately deceptive as their 'proof' is based on simulations and they only test the 2nd digit, which is much weaker, on actual cases.

If you don't like that, you can try this ZeroHedge article (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/it-defies-logic-scientist-finds-telltale-signs-election-fraud-after-analyzing-mail-ballot) about the mail in ballots. The short version is that in contrast to the sharp differences in vote share between counties, all mail in dumps should have the same percentage of Biden/Trump because the Post Office effectively shuffles the mail in ballots. Instead, in key battleground states that percentage snuck up overnight.

Any election fraud was almost certainly accomplished via Dominion's electronic voting machines. Sidney Powell's lawsuit includes an affidavit by a well respected cyber security expert with an annoying compound name that I can't remember right now where he basically says that a) these machines were designed to commit fraud, and do not even have an audit log b) the entire company has substantial ties to China in multiple ways.

Finally, I consider election fraud to be the default rather than exception, so this is hardly surprising (Remember Stalin? "It's not who votes that counts, but who counts the votes!") It's ridiculous that the Fake news spent multiple years frothing at the mouth about Russian interference in 2016 but now that we have actual video of people in Georgia counting after hours (https://www.cbs46.com/news/lawmakers-hear-bombshell-allegations-of-georgia-election-fraud/article_8404e930-35e5-11eb-8ac3-1fc96e3b52d8.html) we are supposed to assume that a guy who never left his basement or had a rally with more than 10 people won by 10 million votes.

Regardless, I don't really consider election fraud all that important. The real issue is whether the American people will allow themselves to live in an Agenda 2030 totalitarian dictatorship because they are afraid of a virus with a 99.5% survival rate for people under age 70. Corona Circus (https://coronacircus.com/2020/11/07/dusty-finish/) has the best election analysis IMO and I think Trump will likely repeat as president, simply because the Right has the guns and needs to think they are in control.

This post was fact checked as TRUE by independent researchers (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_stRRtPkvc0)

Having read through all this I'm relieved that this is the best the election deniers could come up with. I'm not going to go through and refute it point by point because I'm never going to convince you, but just a few key points: Saying a positive hit on the Benford's Law Test is proof of fraud is like saying Hillary's 2016 polling numbers were proof of fraud, or a ding on an airport scanner is proof of a gun. These tests are sensitive, they are not specific. Appealing to experts is not necessarily the same as appealing to authority, when the expert explains their reasoning, especially when the expert in question is someone who studies said law in depth. The problem is people trying to have a substantive, academic discussion on twitter. Not going to happen. Also, both Biden and Trump had a supposed Benford's law aberration in the data you showed. Could mean it was Trump who cheated and still lost.

Why does a 99.5% survival rate for those under 70 matter? Are those over 70 not worth being protected? The more widespread the virus, the more these people are going to die. Nobody is asking for a totalitarian dictatorship (except Trump supporters) just simple, effective precautions like properly wearing a mask and not huddling together in bars so granny gets to enjoy her retirement instead of being in the ground.

PS: 330,000,000 x .005% is 1,650,000 deaths. Even if only 60% of us are ever infected, a conservative estimate given the sheer amount of MAGA, that's still 990,000... assuming a 99.5% survival rate, which is higher for children and lower for people with underlying conditions.

[solleks]

Fuck granny

[Lune]

Fuck granny

Yea that about sums it up. Soulless MAGA cult wants to sacrifice granny so they don't have to suffer the inconvenience of wearing a mask.

[BarnabusCollins]

"Cops nab alleged 'drug kingpin' who assumed identity of a dead infant"

Oh cry me a river cops steal and deal more drugs than drug kingpins.

[solleks]

Granny had a good run now she can kiss my fuckin ass. Maybe dont believe in stupid shit like space and fake viruses granny. FUCK GRANNY

[BarnabusCollins]

Chinese Bat Virus December 2019 is real and the rock that will end the world is real.
You think God was gonna leave that up to MAN? No ma'am.
There will be no 'fowls of the air' to feed off the 'flesh of men' - 0 life will survive the rock land, sea, and air.
Man lost.

[solleks]

K homo

[BarnabusCollins]

Mother Earth will remain there in space, orbiting the sun every 365.25 days, devoid of life, void of light on dark side. One day the sun will supernova and Mother Earth will be shrouded in total darkness forever and ever.

[solleks]

Try not watching porn for a few minutes

[solleks]

How can someone who believes the bible be so horny about space porn

[Cassawary]

AOC is not bad looking, but she’s got that crazy eye look going on. However, there’s no way in hell she is smart.

[Gravydoo II]

Yea that about sums it up. Soulless MAGA cult wants to sacrifice granny so they don't have to suffer the inconvenience of wearing a mask.

Remember, its communism to look out for your friends, family, and co-workers. If you dont want your grandma and pee-pap to die, communism. If you dont want to get sick and possibly die and possibly become the carrier that infects mee-maw, you're a communist. Just the idea alone that not being selfish, satanism/marxism. Any inconvenience from wearing a tiny mask on your face around people is persecution is anti-america and anti-god. How DARE you say GAQWQWWWDDDDD cant protect us?!?!?! communsist!! marxisms!!

[Gravydoo II]

When can we go back to calling "trump supporters" that word we used to call people who are extremely inconsiderate and believe their emotions are the most important thing in the universe??

You know the one, starts with an "A" and ends with "sshole"

[Ripqozko]

When can we go back to calling "trump supporters" that word we used to call people who are extremely inconsiderate and believe their emotions are the most important thing in the universe??

You know the one, starts with an "A" and ends with "sshole"

The same time we call Biden supporters leeches and unemployed. When can they go back to contributing to society instead of playing victim. I’ll hang up and listen.

[Lune]

The same time we call Biden supporters leeches and unemployed. When can they go back to contributing to society instead of playing victim. I’ll hang up and listen.

You think non-whites are leeches, got it. Because among only white people, Biden overwhelmingly wins the support of college graduates and wealthy professionals. Trump wins working class leeches who are more likely to be affected by economic downturns and go on unemployment.

[Ripqozko]

You think non-whites are leeches, got it. Because among only white people, Biden overwhelmingly wins the support of college graduates and wealthy professionals. Trump wins working class leeches who are more likely to be affected by economic downturns and go on unemployment.

Hmm? I’m brown. There’s plenty of all shades being unemployed and leeching . Hope that helps.

[Danth]

Read the Bill of Rights, particularly the first amendment. Americans have an inalienable right to freely assemble. Government-mandated "social distancing" is in fact very real oppression and should be opposed for that reason, clever catchphrase or not. I won't tolerate masks either until they're adopted by popular consent as opposed to being enforced by midnight decrees, but those are less problematic (and that's perhaps more of a local issue) than the national lockdowns. Don't let them take away your rights on a whim "For your safety" or because they've made you scared and terrorized. Those are the tried-and-true (and--effective) tactics of dictators and oppressors all throughout history. Force them to stick to the proper political process. I do not for a moment believe the government is ever going to willingly give back the rights and freedoms it has of late appropriated, not without popular pushback. "Flatten the curve" for a couple months last spring has already turned into the better part of a year with no end in sight. I've made my decision, and I am putting own life on the line in the name of protecting my liberty and yours from those who seek to destroy it. Anyone who appreciates America should do the same.

Call me a "trumptard" if you wish, but the moniker would be rather odd seeing as I have never voted for him. I don't care what that man says. I'd oppose the present measures regardless of who's holding the federal executive office. Call me an ass if you wish, timid and frightened people have called me much worse out on the street. That is the standard fate of anyone who rocks the boat, so I accept it for what it is.

Danth

[BiG SiP]

as a moderate (libertarian?)

i am increasingly alarmed at forced closures of struggling businesses, this amounts to effectively being ordered to shut down your livelihood
shouldnt it be up to the individual(s) whether they choose to engage in such risk or not?

[Raev]

So first let me say that I am totally open to being convinced on all issues, and if you check my post history you can see that I left the Trump train long ago. I am not personally committed to any political position other than the gradual positive evolution of humanity. Anyway, let's try to raise the signal to noise ratio of this thread a few percent.

These tests are sensitive, they are not specific . . . could mean it was Trump who cheated and still lost.

I guess not, but you could be right here. I don't pretend to understand the intricacies of NWO politics and which crime families are currently working together.

when the expert explains their reasoning
If you reread my post, I specifically called them out for not explaining their reasoning. Let me repost their quotes:

First, I’d like to stress that Benford’s Law can NOT be used to “prove fraud”. It is only a Red Flag test, that can raise doubts. E.g., the IRS has been using it for decades to ferret out fraudsters, but only by identifying suspicious entries, at which time they put the auditors to work on the hard evidence. Whether or not a dataset follows BL proves nothing.

In any case, the 2BL test on its own should not be considered proof either that election fraud has occurred or that an election was clean. A significant 2BL test result can be caused by complications other than fraud. Some kinds of fraud the 2BL test cannot detect.
These quotes are simple statements of fact, and do not provide any evidence of anything, which is why I called them an appeal to authority. Also worth noting is that he is talking about the 2BL, when the 1BL is being used.

Are those over 70 not worth being protected?

Surely we can agree that this is a question of economics and not a simple yes/no? For example, here the WHO talking about how we now have an additional 130 million people undernourished (https://www.who.int/news/item/13-10-2020-impact-of-covid-19-on-people's-livelihoods-their-health-and-our-food-systems). And contrary to the WHO, this has nothing to do with the actual virus and everything to do with draconian lockdowns.

So yes, I care about Granny. I also care about 130 million people starving to death. Then we have to look at the mental health aspects. According to this random website (https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/the-implications-of-covid-19-for-mental-health-and-substance-use/) depression has gone from 10% of the population to 30%. Isn't living longer while being miserable the wrong tradeoff? It's like the old joke about making up negative margins on volume.

[Raev]

I do not for a moment believe the government is ever going to willingly give back the rights and freedoms it has of late appropriated, not without popular pushback.

Well said. It's just one long slippery slope. I really think JP Sears is doing God's work here more than anyone. These policies need to be properly mocked more than debated.

It's all about control (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suCeNgAzQhA); the story is as old as civilization.

[Lune]

Surely we can agree that this is a question of economics and not a simple yes/no? For example, here the WHO talking about how we now have an additional 130 million people undernourished (https://www.who.int/news/item/13-10-2020-impact-of-covid-19-on-people's-livelihoods-their-health-and-our-food-systems). And contrary to the WHO, this has nothing to do with the actual virus and everything to do with draconian lockdowns.

So yes, I care about Granny. I also care about 130 million people starving to death. Then we have to look at the mental health aspects. According to this random website (https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/the-implications-of-covid-19-for-mental-health-and-substance-use/) depression has gone from 10% of the population to 30%. Isn't living longer while being miserable the wrong tradeoff? It's like the old joke about making up negative margins on volume.

I'm not in favor of lockdowns either, in general. I am strongly in favor of wearing masks, which if Americans had participated in universally, we never would have needed any form of lockdown. However, lockdowns in areas where ICU's are full or hospitals are otherwise having issue with capacity are certainly warranted. But again, these could have been avoided with proper mask use and reasonable social distancing precautions.

Many of these businesses in the tourism, hospitality, and entertainment industries are going to suffer whether we lock down or not. Large swathes of the population are wary of traveling or huddling together in bars during a pandemic. The death rate may be low, but I don't blame people for not wanting to roll the dice. Had we heeded the advice of epidemiologists from the beginning we wouldn't be in this mess.

Additionally, some of that $1 trillion in stimulus funding earlier in the year could have been used the way it was in European countries to simply pay wages in distressed businesses until the distress subsided. Instead it was meted out in PPP loans with virtually no oversight, much of it ended up going to businesses that had little to no need for it because Republicans fired the watchdog (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/07/trump-removes-independent-watchdog-for-coronavirus-funds-upending-oversight-panel-171943) responsible for committee oversight. Germany's unemployment rate is only 5.9%.

[BarnabusCollins]

Republicans did 9/11, Democrats upped the anti during their 8 then won the Nobel peace. Trump came and with him real peace and won no award from man.
Now, what's up? What's Biden's handler's want?

Ya fucked up waking the sleeping dragon idiot Is Real Ill. God Almighty could give nuke tech to a babe if it chose.

If they were Jews, they would obey the commands of God Almighty given to Moses.
They are not. They are dust.

Hey Joel Osteen, the last thing you ever want to hear is the LORD tell you to "Depart from Me; I never knew you." Repent before Him.

Bill Graham, you preach the name of the LORD and want photos taken with Presidents?

Keep the Illuminati in the dark forever until they repent. No light shall shine in thee.

The meek will inherit this place.

That is the will of the Son of Man.

[Raev]

I take it by your silence that you agree with the statement that "Benford's Law is a reasonable method for determining whether fraud in an election occurred, although not where and by whom. Considering the huge incentives for such fraud and the way various statistics in the 2020 election flunk Benford's law, it's very likely that some level of fraud occurred in battleground states, although it's not clear how and by whom".

I'm not ... I am ... I don't

If you agree that COVID response is an economic issue, then we know theoretically that the best solution to economic problems is to distribute the solution as finely as possible. If people in NY NY want to lock down and people in Rapid City SD don't, who are you to say that either group is wrong? Why is it necessary to force your will on them?

Republicans

Please remember that I no longer play for Team Trump or Team Republican. edit: both parties are filled with toilet bowl scum in my opinion

during a pandemic

There simply is no pandemic. 300,000 covid deaths is 0.1% of the population (and it's likely lower considering the dubious way deaths are counted). Compare this with real pandemics (https://www.history.com/news/pandemics-end-plague-cholera-black-death-smallpox) which killed 10-20% of the population.

[Caroll]

There simply is no pandemic..

pan·dem·ic (of a disease) prevalent over a whole country or the world.

pandemic: an outbreak of a disease that occurs over a wide geographic area (such as multiple countries or continents) and typically affects a significant proportion of the population : a pandemic outbreak of a disease


You do not get to make up your own reality. Provide evidence to dispute the definition of the word or you're objectively wrong. Keep reading GatewayPundit and OANN, though.

P.S. Sorry your candidate (Donald J. Trump) lost in an election that was the freest and most transparent in the history of mankind. Attorney William Barr agrees.

:) :) :)

P.P.S. You're mad.

:) :) :) :D :D :D

[Ahldagor]

Republicans did 9/11, Democrats upped the anti during their 8 then won the Nobel peace. Trump came and with him real peace and won no award from man.
Now, what's up? What's Biden's handler's want?

Ya fucked up waking the sleeping dragon idiot Is Real Ill. God Almighty could give nuke tech to a babe if it chose.

If they were Jews, they would obey the commands of God Almighty given to Moses.
They are not. They are dust.

Hey Joel Osteen, the last thing you ever want to hear is the LORD tell you to "Depart from Me; I never knew you." Repent before Him.

Bill Graham, you preach the name of the LORD and want photos taken with Presidents?

Keep the Illuminati in the dark forever until they repent. No light shall shine in thee.

The meek will inherit this place.

That is the will of the Son of Man.

But the evangelicals are spear heading the Donal J Trump for President Inc. donations for legal fees. It's like the economy has been deified by the GOP the past thirty years or something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD4UHSdH-nc

[Lune]

I take it by your silence that you agree with the statement that "Benford's Law is a reasonable method for determining whether fraud in an election occurred, although not where and by whom. Considering the huge incentives for such fraud and the way various statistics in the 2020 election flunk Benford's law, it's very likely that some level of fraud occurred in battleground states, although it's not clear how and by whom".

No, Benford's Law as an appropriate test for election fraud has been debunked (http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wmebane/inapB.pdf). TLDR is essentially that our 2-party system divides voters into 2 halves which differ in statistically significant ways (urban vs. rural population density for one), and further divides them into precincts that vary immensely in size. You have divisions of 400 to 2,700 or more. Smaller precincts will produce more single digits and Biden/Harris precincts (more dense) will have more 3/4/5. The distributions on your blog simply reflect the distribution of precinct sizes.

If you agree that COVID response is an economic issue, then we know theoretically that the best solution to economic problems is to distribute the solution as finely as possible. If people in NY NY want to lock down and people in Rapid City SD don't, who are you to say that either group is wrong? Why is it necessary to force your will on them?

COVID response is an economic and public health issue. The best solution to economic problems is to distribute the solution as finely as possible. However, the best solution to public health problems is to distribute the solution as universally as possible. If Washington DC is excellent at controlling the virus, but Maryland and Virginia are garbage at controlling the virus, DC is just going to get re-infected by all their commuters.

Coronavirus doesn't care about state lines or political divisions, it goes wherever people go, and people in the US move fluidly all over the country. I care that people in Rapid City, SD don't want to lock down because that is a decision which ignores public health experts, who recommend lockdowns when ICU's are full. Note the nuance. Public health experts do NOT recommend lockdowns under normal circumstances; lockdowns can make things worse and sow untold economic carnage. But if ICU's are full, you may have no choice. I live in South Carolina, a Republican state, so it affects me when local governments make the wrong decision.

Also keep in mind many of these economic problems could have been mitigated by a better government response (or dare I say it, universal basic income)

There simply is no pandemic. 300,000 covid deaths is 0.1% of the population (and it's likely lower considering the dubious way deaths are counted). Compare this with real pandemics (https://www.history.com/news/pandemics-end-plague-cholera-black-death-smallpox) which killed 10-20% of the population.

That's not how pandemic is defined. Classification as a pandemic is based on incidence, not mortality. That's why the 2009 swine flu outbreak was a pandemic.

[cd288]

I take it by your silence that you agree with the statement that "Benford's Law is a reasonable method for determining whether fraud in an election occurred, although not where and by whom. Considering the huge incentives for such fraud and the way various statistics in the 2020 election flunk Benford's law, it's very likely that some level of fraud occurred in battleground states, although it's not clear how and by whom".



If you agree that COVID response is an economic issue, then we know theoretically that the best solution to economic problems is to distribute the solution as finely as possible. If people in NY NY want to lock down and people in Rapid City SD don't, who are you to say that either group is wrong? Why is it necessary to force your will on them?



Please remember that I no longer play for Team Trump or Team Republican. edit: both parties are filled with toilet bowl scum in my opinion



There simply is no pandemic. 300,000 covid deaths is 0.1% of the population (and it's likely lower considering the dubious way deaths are counted). Compare this with real pandemics (https://www.history.com/news/pandemics-end-plague-cholera-black-death-smallpox) which killed 10-20% of the population.

To be fair, in many past pandemics the population was way lower so percentages naturally skew higher

[solleks]

LI think a pandemic would be infrastructure overwhelmed with dead body's in the street. Everyone would know it was serious and they would know people DEAD This is pussy shit

[TheBardo]

In the nightmarish 41st millenium, a thousand souls are sacrificed per day to power the golden throne of the Emperor of Mankind. Without it, the ruinous powers of chaos would overwhelm the imperium of man, and doom humanity to everlasting damnation.

In December 2020, two thousand people die of covid19 each day in America alone. Big time (1k posts) off topic project 1999 forums poster solleks: "this is pussy shit, fuck granny lol"

[douglas1999]

To be fair, in many past pandemics the population was way lower so percentages naturally skew higher

Globally the population is way higher sure, but covid infection and death rates are still incredibly low in countries with populations of 1 or 2 million, which is far lower than the global population during much more deadly pandemics, so I think that's kind of moot.

[Raev]

has been debunked (http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wmebane/inapB.pdf)

Thanks for linking that. I looked up the database of precinct sizes and saw plenty of larger ones, but I guess my brain was unable to plot the actual distribution. So I it seems I have to take that one back!

That's not how pandemic is defined. Classification as a pandemic is based on incidence, not mortality. That's why the 2009 swine flu outbreak was a pandemic.

This was surprising to me, so I did some research. You are correct! However, the more interesting thing to me is that this word was basically unknown until 1920 (https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=pandemic%2C+epidemic&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=26&smoothing=3&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cpandemic%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2Cepi demic%3B%2Cc0#t1%3B%2Cpandemic%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2C epidemic%3B%2Cc0), presumably due to the 1918 flu. It seems like this was a deceptive propaganda word from the get-go: after all, no one cares about the 'pandemic' of dandruff (technically caused by a fungus that is probably contagious on some level). Sollecks gets it. So let me rephrase: COVID is simply not a major health crisis historically.

In December 2020, two thousand people die of covid19 each day in America alone

The official average for 2020 is ~1000 COVID deaths per day vs ~5500 from other causes, and it's probably lower due to ignoring comorbidities. If an octogenarian tests positive for COVID but is also 50 lbs overweight with diabetes due to a lifetime of doughnut consumption, is his death really the result of an evil virus or simply the natural termination of his finite life?


COVID response is an economic and public health issue. The best solution to economic problems is to distribute the solution as finely as possible. However, the best solution to public health problems is to distribute the solution as universally as possible. I live in South Carolina, a Republican state, so it affects me when local governments make the wrong decision.
I don't think this concept of a public health problem really exists. After all, economic decisions by one city affect others, like the size of the tax breaks for Amazon HQ2 or tax codes or any number of other things. The point is that the more fine grained the policy, the more people can get what they want, and if they are really upset they can always move. On the other hand, if you want to argue that COVID policy should be decided by a city and its suburbs in unison, I think that's reasonable. It probably wouldn't work on a house-by-house basis after all!

Anyway, the important thing here is that we can have a polite conversation and focus on facts rather than personal positions.

[reebz]

AOC is not bad looking, but she’s got that crazy eye look going on. However, there’s no way in hell she is smart.

:rolleyes:

[douglas1999]

AOC rages against capitalism while selling 58 dollar sweatshirts about "taxing the rich". Gee aoc we already do tax the rich, they already provide the majority of tax revenue, but thanks. She does nothing. She has the intellect of a 17 year old valley girl from california. She pretends to be "of the people" because she was a bartender for five seconds, while now earning six figures to do nothing all day. She's a complete fraud and an idiot, and she should stick to dancing.

[Jibartik]

I hated trump for a lot of reasons, and still do.

But you gotta hand it to the man, he lost the eleciton, but he is a winner. Why?

The most americans voted in this election than history, and that is because of one man.

Trump.

If you love him, or hate him, he got you to get involved in politics.

Nobody "voted because of Biden"... they voted, for, or against Trump, because of TRUMP, and nothing else.

Couldn't do it for Bernie, Nader, or anyone who was lawful good.

But you could do it for someone who rallied the troops, and enraged your sensitive sensibilities, to get you out and vote.

Trump did at least one, exceptionally great thing: he made politics important again.

[cd288]

Globally the population is way higher sure, but covid infection and death rates are still incredibly low in countries with populations of 1 or 2 million, which is far lower than the global population during much more deadly pandemics, so I think that's kind of moot.

Many historical pandemics also took place during times when our medical knowledge was either practically non existent or extremely minimal compared to today. It’s kind of a laughable analogy to compare one disease from modern times to others from 100+ (including sometimes multiple centuries) ago

[FatherSioux]

You want a purge of the United States population. what are you even talking about lol. you are neither conservative nor liberal, but repugnant and bitter.

maga lol, cut tax and spend so good conservative economy xD

im a conservative cos he have a red hat! burn the institutions to the ground! i'm moving to a browner state!

Your defining feature is your mental illness, congo rats.

[Caroll]

Your defining feature is your mental illness, congo rats.

Donald J. Trump won't be the president because he lost the election to Joseph R. Biden. Do you support losers? Because your beloved [abject failure by every metric] Dear Leader lost in the most transparent election in history.

You want a purge of the United States? Your life must be great to express such anti-social sentiments. Especially since it will never, ever happen. Continue living in a fantasy world while living in poverty. It's so funny laughing at losers (like Donald J. Trump who lost the popular and Electoral College vote in the 2020 election).

:D :D :D

:) :) :) :o :o :o

[douglas1999]

Many historical pandemics also took place during times when our medical knowledge was either practically non existent or extremely minimal compared to today. It’s kind of a laughable analogy to compare one disease from modern times to others from 100+ (including sometimes multiple centuries) ago

Oh I completely agree with that, which is why it's nonsensical to respond to covid as if we don't have amazingly more advanced medical technology. Maybe it *would* have been more like a genuinely dangerous pandemic had it occured in 1900, but we live in 2020. The stats overwhelmingly confirm that it is not nearly as dangerous as initially projected. The initial reports were that hospitals would be completely overwhelmed with critically ill patients. Almost none have been, anywhere. Even in states and countries that never locked down at all like the dakotas and sweden.

However it's also worth noting that even with modern medical technology, things like ebola are still extremely dangerous. We are reacting to this disease as if it is airborne ebola more than what it actually is, which is a respiratory illness marginally more dangerous than a bad flu. In fact, the flu is *more* likely to kill the young than covid. It simply does not warrant this response, this is hysteria.

[douglas1999]

Donald J. Trump won't be the president because he lost the election to Joseph R. Biden. Do you support losers? Because your beloved [abject failure by every metric] Dear Leader lost in the most transparent election in history.

You want a purge of the United States? Your life must be great to express such anti-social sentiments. Especially since it will never, ever happen. Continue living in a fantasy world while living in poverty. It's so funny laughing at losers (like Donald J. Trump who lost the popular and Electoral College vote in the 2020 election).

:D :D :D

:) :) :) :o :o :o

You are a psychopath. Seek help.

[Cassawary]

You are a psychopath. Seek help.

That might be the oregon mether, I'm not sure.

[Caroll]

You are a psychopath. Seek help.

Prove it. Sorry your cult leader lost. You're a loser (like Donald J. Trump).

[Caroll]

*polishes his "I'm With Her" helmet before going to the grocery store*

It's time to save democracy with Joseph R. Biden leading the charge (savior of America and democracy). Donald J. Trump lost to him in the 2020 election (Electoral College and popular vote).

:p :p :p :p

[douglas1999]

Prove it. Sorry your cult leader lost. You're a loser (like Donald J. Trump).

It is plainly self evident with everything you post that you are mentally deranged, vindictive and psychotic. I thankfully don't have to prove anything, you exhibit your derangement with everything you say.

[feniin]

It is plainly self evident with everything you post that you are mentally deranged, vindictive and psychotic. I thankfully don't have to prove anything, you exhibit your derangement with everything you say.

Prove it. Sorry your cult leader lost. You're a loser (like Donald J. Trump).

[Ripqozko]

Wb to your main account, gonna switch to pretzelle now ?

[feniin]

Wb to your main account, gonna switch to pretzelle now ?

that account is dead - changed the password to a random string of characters. was a burner email.

[Ripqozko]

that account is dead - changed the password to a random string of characters. was a burner email.

Why the Carroll account, seems weird .

[feniin]

Why the Carroll account, seems weird .

tbh I forgot why I made it - probably to have one when this was banned for trolling Teppler too hard.

[imperiouskitten]

Would you look at that -- after calling me out, dougie ignored my reply (a dunk) and went dark for hours before replying to others. A clockwork cuck. Small peepee.

[imperiouskitten]

PS he doesn't even retort when called 5'6". the dude is fucking tiny lol

[Ripqozko]

Double posting cause mad

[imperiouskitten]

i double post alot its an assthetic choice

[Ripqozko]

Yea they mad, hope that helps.

[imperiouskitten]

bro your balls are touching. i know he's 5'3" cute but get a room

[Ripqozko]

bro your balls are touching. i know he's 5'3" cute but get a room

You make a lot of posts about genitals , seek help. Hope that helps.

PS get a job

[Trexller]

and went dark for hours before replying to others

is it possible he just, went and did something else?

most of us dont stare at the screen like a girl waiting for her boyfriend to call

[imperiouskitten]

make 1 thread about the comical experience of breaking your penor and everyone flips. u have a phobia.

i dont need to work, i dont gotta work. !

[imperiouskitten]

is it possible he just, went and did something else?

most of us dont stare at the screen like a girl waiting for her boyfriend to call

it's unlikely as he does this like clockwork over and over again. U wouldn't know as your forum presence is like a nude macedonian phalanx with the rest of the Election Skeptics

[Ripqozko]

You just posted a genital comment here and in rnf too. Please seek help , I will pray for you.

[imperiouskitten]

you just posted two genital comments in a row. maybe we need couples therapy

[Trexller]

You make a lot of posts about genitals , seek help. Hope that helps.

to be fair, the question of genitals will weigh heavily on the minds of this type. They are in a constant state of genital philosophy contemplation.

"what does it all mean?!"

[Ripqozko]

you just posted two genital comments in a row. maybe we need couples therapy

I hope your insurance covers your mental illness , be safe.

[Caroll]

Donald J. Trump (one-term president who never won the popular vote; lost to Joseph R. Biden) is a loser. The people who support him are losers.

Everything I said is objectively true. Prove me wrong. :) :) :)

:D :D :D

[imperiouskitten]

to be fair, the question of genitals will weigh heavily on the minds of this type. They are in a constant state of genital philosophy contemplation.

"what does it all mean?!"


I actually don't think about genitals that much, except my husband's, as evidenced by my lack of phobia about my cute penis. It is you who obsesses about my genitalia, clearly, along with dougie-chan which is how this elf vendetta was born. Anyway dougie must be proud to have such distinguished aniki-samas on the defense.

[Ripqozko]

Donald J. Trump (one-term president who never won the popular vote; lost to Joseph R. Biden) is a loser. The people who support him are losers.

Everything I said is objectively true. Prove me wrong. :) :) :)

:D :D :D

You can go back to your main account plinki, and don’t quote yourself like a page over it’s weird. Be yourself .

[imperiouskitten]

https://i.imgur.com/RdAsoVh.png
did u just step to my dougie-chan?

[Trexller]

U wouldn't know as your forum presence is like a nude macedonian phalanx

No idea what that means but,

what you just described is 128 naked dudes.

please keep me out of your fantasies.

https://i.imgur.com/NofcYHN.png

[Trexller]

I actually don't think about genitals that much, except my husband's, as evidenced by my lack of phobia about my cute penis. It is you who obsesses about my genitalia, clearly.

every other post of yours references your "particular" lifestyle, the physical relationship with your "husband"

you even started a thread, specifically about your own dick.

i still think you secretly like girls.

[imperiouskitten]

double post hella mad.

I bring up my husband a lot because in a self-referential way it's hilarious. cause he's taller, handsomer, cleverer, higher-born, deadlier and sexier than you so I kinda get to look down on you each time I bring him up. It's basically me demonstrating my worth (beyond your reach) each time. So now you know :p

as for my "lifestyle" (straight woman), the other posters are obsessed and bring it up constantly including you and dougie-chan. So there might be a bit of an illusion going on there, know what i mean?

[Trexller]

I bring up my husband a lot because in a self-referential way it's hilarious. cause he's taller, handsomer, cleverer, higher-born and sexier than you so I kinda get to look down on you each time I bring him up. It's basically me demonstrating my worth (beyond your reach) each time. So now you know :p

so, then its entirely a you thing, you are basically just looking in a mirror and chanting "im so great, im so great, im so great"

nothing to do with me or anyone else.

[imperiouskitten]

so, then its entirely a you thing, you are basically just looking in a mirror and chanting "im so great, im so great, im so great"

nothing to do with me or anyone else.

oh no it's to do with you. See, you're a newjack and he's a longtime poster on this board all the girls had a crush on. You "should" know him, but you're new around here. Contextually it makes sense, but you failed to "lurk more".

[imperiouskitten]

Anything else, my "conservative" election-deniers? I don't mind going on, as it keeps dougie sweating, f5ing and too scared to post :p

[Lune]

https://i.imgur.com/3bHQR7W.gif

[imperiouskitten]

*wipes blade w/ handkerchief*

[douglas1999]

I mean no disrespect but I honestly can't parse like 50% of the posts you make kitten. You're not doing your cause any favors by acting like a petty, vindictive brat and vulturing over the misfortune of anyone you don't like, if not outright wishing for their misfortune. It's creepy, and I'm not saying it has anything to do with you being trans. Whatever is afflicting you seems to afflict people of all sexual identities.

[imperiouskitten]

I mean no disrespect but I honestly can't parse like 50% of the posts you make kitten. You're not doing your cause any favors by acting like a petty, vindictive brat and vulturing over the misfortune of anyone you don't like, if not outright wishing for their misfortune. It's creepy, and I'm not saying it has anything to do with you being trans. Whatever is afflicting you seems to afflict people of all sexual identities.

OK, you can't even read my dunks. That's fair and big of you to admit. Just take your ball and go home on the transphobe shit in the future. I promise you I don't hold opinions on biology "because of my identity"; I am educated in it. My bloodthirst is quenched til u step again on bigotry.

[hobart]

I mean no disrespect but I honestly can't parse like 50% of the posts you make kitten. You're not doing your cause any favors by acting like a petty, vindictive brat and vulturing over the misfortune of anyone you don't like, if not outright wishing for their misfortune. It's creepy, and I'm not saying it has anything to do with you being trans. Whatever is afflicting you seems to afflict people of all sexual identities.

So you don't understand, but you're commenting anyway... Par for the course.

[imperiouskitten]

for the record, I really don't wish anyone ill. I was snapped out of a pretty hateful outlook when a series of miracles happened to me, and I hope it happens for everyone. It's more like I want it to feel like touching a hot stove when you contribute to the pervasive evil generated by false and hateful doctrines in this world, and I can approach this with passion when that hatefulness gets aimed at me. So don't fear me, little dougie, just treat me with respect and find that I am very uncreepy.

[Elrood]

Just dropping by to remind everyone that Trump lost by a lot and will never again be president of this country, and that AOC is far more intelligent than any - any - republican congressperson.

EDIT: Oh, and her $58 dollar sweatshirts are made right here in the good ol' USA (which, of course, explains the price). Trump's cheap ass fucking ugly shit that he sells to his dumbfuck, shit-for-brains supporters? All made *exclusively* in China.

[Cassawary]

Just dropping by to remind everyone that Trump lost by a lot and will never again be president of this country, and that AOC is far more intelligent than any - any - republican congressperson.

EDIT: Oh, and her $58 dollar sweatshirts are made right here in the good ol' USA (which, of course, explains the price). Trump's cheap ass fucking ugly shit that he sells to his dumbfuck, shit-for-brains supporters? All made *exclusively* in China.

comparative advantage tho. americans should be doing better stuff than knitting sweaters for the global market.

[Gravydoo II]

as a moderate (libertarian?)

i am increasingly alarmed at forced closures of struggling businesses, this amounts to effectively being ordered to shut down your livelihood
shouldnt it be up to the individual(s) whether they choose to engage in such risk or not?

Maybe the government should have protected its economy and citizens. Maybe it should have spent some of that 700 billion dollar "defense" fund to "defend" itself against this disease and "defend" its people from poverty and struggle..... Like, the rest of the world.

[Caroll]

RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!!!!!!!

*100+ lawsuits laughed out of court by Federalist Society, Trump-appointed federal judges*

Pathetic losers (who lost the White House).

[BarnabusCollins]

Telling us miracles happened and not saying what they were, is like me speaking in tongues to anyone unable to interpret (which is: anyone lol)

What were they? I've had miracles happen. They're rare but happen. In real life.

[Gravydoo II]

OMG IM THE KRAKEN AND IM SOOOOO RELEASED OMG EVERYONE WATCH OUT!!! OHH I FLIPPED GEORGIA TO TRUMP OOOHHHH!! SORRY LIBS! Ooohhh look! Now I'm taking over Penn, Mi, FL, and everywhere else I feel like trump lost!! Look at me go!! you better watch out AOC im coming to get you!! I got Rudy the ooze and Sidney shake voice coming with me!!

[Gravydoo II]

The same time we call Biden supporters leeches and unemployed. When can they go back to contributing to society instead of playing victim. I’ll hang up and listen.

I am gainfully employed, own a small business, and a veteran.... So... I'm the leech, right?

You mean Rush Limbaugh on the radio every day saying how hard liberals have it?? Or does he talk about how hard it is to be a white christian conservative in america?? Does he sit on the radio and say "You know, they hate you with every fiber of their being. They will destroy your life for any reason, even none. They say you are stupid behind your back. They hate you, never listen to them. Never trust anyones word but trumps and mine. You're the victim here. You have everything against you! You cant even go outside without being attacked by liberals!!" every fucking day?? Well him, todd herman, and whoever else isnt dying of cancer from being a piece of shit..

Tell me thats not rush limbaugh's programming. If you say no, you're a fucking liar. Tell me its not 3 hours of democrat OBSESSED and self victim-hood. If you believe it, that doesnt make it true.

[BarnabusCollins]

He made me fall out of love with her in one instant, the same amount of time it took to fall in love with her 13 years prior. That was a miracle.

I have new pets to love, i did not used to have, and they came at a time I was utterly alone. They came out of nowhere to my home. That was a miracle.

The Almighty let me know he was real and not religion, and that was a miracle.
And his name was God Almighty, he was born here as Jesus Christ, and is now again God Almighty forevermore and will never die. That is the miracle of all miracles.

[Trexller]

bruh

[Gravydoo II]

RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!!!!!!!

*100+ lawsuits laughed out of court by Federalist Society, Trump-appointed federal judges*

Pathetic losers (who lost the White House).

Could you imagine losing your best pedophile friend in Epstein then losing your protection mechanism from all the rape and sexual abuse allegations against you?? Could you IMAGE voting for a guy whos been accused of RAPE and sexual assault at least 26 times??? Some of the victims as young as 12 in Katie Johnsons case??? Imagine being an obese pedophile and then LOSING your cult's seat of power... sad. I wonder if him, cindy yang, and epstein will meet up in heaven when they die to abuse kids there forever and forever? Could you even IMAGINE voting for a guy who was friends with a notorious pedophile and worshiping for guy for years???

[Gravydoo II]

He made me fall out of love with her in one instant, the same amount of time it took to fall in love with her 13 years prior. That was a miracle.

I have new pets to love, i did not used to have, and they came at a time I was utterly alone. They came out of nowhere to my home. That was a miracle.

The Almighty let me know he was real and not religion, and that was a miracle.
And his name was God Almighty, he was born here as Jesus Christ, and is now again God Almighty forevermore and will never die. That is the miracle of all miracles.

I'm not trying to kill your god or anything but cats come up to my house all the time, stranger cats. They want to talk to my garbage can..

[BarnabusCollins]

I'm not trying to kill your god or anything but cats come up to my house all the time, stranger cats. They want to talk to my garbage can..

Explain the first one then. (He can't)

[BarnabusCollins]

I'd tell many more miracles but if thou doth not seek thou doth not find.

[Gravydoo II]

I'd tell many more miracles but if thou doth not seek thou doth not find.

One disgusting act can make you not love someone. Like shooting a kid in the head. I wouldnt love my girl anymore, if she did that. In one instant. Or even something like, stealing a few pennies from an impoverished person. I wouldnt love her anymore, that instant. All it takes is one act.

Remember Griffith...? They all fell out of love with him in ONE SECOND, too. Thousands of people.

[BarnabusCollins]

No disgusting act occurred nice shot in the dark. Miracles will always happen long after I'm gone.

[imperiouskitten]

He made me fall out of love with her in one instant, the same amount of time it took to fall in love with her 13 years prior. That was a miracle.

I have new pets to love, i did not used to have, and they came at a time I was utterly alone. They came out of nowhere to my home. That was a miracle.

The Almighty let me know he was real and not religion, and that was a miracle.
And his name was God Almighty, he was born here as Jesus Christ, and is now again God Almighty forevermore and will never die. That is the miracle of all miracles.

What was wrong with her? Did you do something evil for convenience, then build an identity around protecting your ego? I have a shitty ex like that

[Gravydoo II]

No disgusting act occurred nice shot in the dark.

Yea but you said explain how someone could fall out of love with someone in an instant. How does that saying go? Scales fell from their eyes?? All it takes is one realization and boom, you're out.

[Caroll]

Could you imagine losing your best pedophile friend in Epstein then losing your protection mechanism from all the rape and sexual abuse allegations against you?? Could you IMAGE voting for a guy whos been accused of RAPE and sexual assault at least 26 times??? Some of the victims as young as 12 in Katie Johnsons case??? Imagine being an obese pedophile and then LOSING your cult's seat of power... sad. I wonder if him, cindy yang, and epstein will meet up in heaven when they die to abuse kids there forever and forever? Could you even IMAGINE voting for a guy who was friends with a notorious pedophile and worshiping for guy for years???

Excellent points. Trump is a proven pedophile. It's interesting to see how the QAnon obese eat up these conspiracy theories when there's a video of Donald J. Trump (lost popular vote in 2016 and 2020; one-term president) standing next to Jeffrey Epstein (world's most prolific pedophile) at a party saying, "She's hot," in reference to a child.

In conclusion, Donald J. Trump is a pedophile, loser, and dangerously obese.

[BarnabusCollins]

She was perfect. I was not meant to be with anyone. It worked out to perfection.
I'm not parent material what so ever. She is now happily married with 2 girls.
That's a miracle. Jesus.

[BarnabusCollins]

And the most important miracle of all God did for me (and to me) I'd rather not say. But that was the night and morning after of me meets God. In the moments leading up to my demand to God, I had just burned the Holy Bible my mom and dad gave me for my 22nd birthday from cover to cover in a drunken rage. I asked for it. God gave it. I've had it ever since.

[imperiouskitten]

Sounds like a pretty grand cuckening. Grats on yo bitch getting knockedup by anotha nikka

[Jibartik]

The non trump supporters ITT are making me wana support trump lol

ELECTION WAS A FRAUD!

[Caroll]

The non trump supporters ITT are making me wana support trump lol

ELECTION WAS A FRAUD!

Sure, you can choose to support a loser (lost popular vote twice) pedophile (objective fact). What does that say about you?

[Jibartik]

stop being so mad if you're so confident you won

[Caroll]

stop being so mad if you're so confident you won

Mad? About what?

[Jibartik]

Ive never understood what you people have been so mad about tbh

[Caroll]

Ive never understood what you people have been so mad about tbh

Good point, I win. Better luck next time.

:) :) :) :D :D :D

[FatherSioux]

Sure, you can choose to support a loser (lost popular vote twice) pedophile (objective fact). What does that say about you?

It would require me compounding mistakes on mistakes for me to fall to poverty.


It's been said over and over but how anyone calls this the most fair and honest election is just hilarious. Massive mail in voting, massive absentee balloting, major voting changes months before the election. Tons of people speaking up about issues they saw, video evidence of strange behavior.

I'm guessing I'm like a lot of Trump supporters in that we initially didn't like him like many, then as we saw he was treated and the lies that have been told about him over and over we were drawn to defend him. Four years of lies and misinformation against him, all while he did quite a few good objectively good things that get ignored. Middle East peace deals, not starting wars, solid economy. But this guys the devil? Ok ideologues, eat ass and good luck against us.

[douglas1999]

^^ Caroll's response:

"Nope, none of that is true, didn't read a word of your post, nor will I, and I pre-emptively refuse to consider any information I don't already agree with. I'm totally well-balanced and reasonable btw"

[Gravydoo II]

It would require me compounding mistakes on mistakes for me to fall to poverty.


It's been said over and over but how anyone calls this the most fair and honest election is just hilarious. Massive mail in voting, massive absentee balloting, major voting changes months before the election. Tons of people speaking up about issues they saw, video evidence of strange behavior.

I'm guessing I'm like a lot of Trump supporters in that we initially didn't like him like many, then as we saw he was treated and the lies that have been told about him over and over we were drawn to defend him. Four years of lies and misinformation against him, all while he did quite a few good objectively good things that get ignored. Middle East peace deals, not starting wars, solid economy. But this guys the devil? Ok ideologues, eat ass and good luck against us.


Peace deals?? Those were cease-fires and non-aggression pacts AT BEST in exchange for.... drum roll please!! Every single country that did that got a HUGE weapons contract from the USA.. imagine that...

[Caroll]

It would require me compounding mistakes on mistakes for me to fall to poverty.


It's been said over and over but how anyone calls this the most fair and honest election is just hilarious. Massive mail in voting, massive absentee balloting, major voting changes months before the election. Tons of people speaking up about issues they saw, video evidence of strange behavior.

I'm guessing I'm like a lot of Trump supporters in that we initially didn't like him like many, then as we saw he was treated and the lies that have been told about him over and over we were drawn to defend him. Four years of lies and misinformation against him, all while he did quite a few good objectively good things that get ignored. Middle East peace deals, not starting wars, solid economy. But this guys the devil? Ok ideologues, eat ass and good luck against us.


Can you prove any of your claims? 100+ lawsuits failed to prove anything and were laughed at and thrown out by Trump-appointed federal judges. Sorry you're stupid. Better luck next time, loser.

"Good luck against us."

You lost. You're a loser.

[Caroll]

^^ Caroll's response:

"Nope, none of that is true, didn't read a word of your post, nor will I, and I pre-emptively refuse to consider any information I don't already agree with. I'm totally well-balanced and reasonable btw"

You're mad. :) :) :)

[douglas1999]

Peace deals?? Those were cease-fires and non-aggression pacts AT BEST in exchange for.... drum roll please!! Every single country that did that got a HUGE weapons contract from the USA.. imagine that...

They also enabled new trade between countries that desperately needed new trade. Those deals will help many impoverished people in the middle east. Weapons also enable nations to defend their sovereignty, they aren't just magically spooky bad things.

"Weapons contract" seems to be a go-to boogeyman for people on the left. Woah woah woah, did you say weapons contract? Everything relating to this is now bad!

[douglas1999]

You're mad. :) :) :)

No I really just find it baffling that somebody is so impervious to good-natured, honest attempts to discuss an issue. You are seething with hatred toward anybody who even has a hint of a right leaning perspective. It's creepy. I suppose we should make you personal dictator of the country, since you do not require any new information on any topic.

Three smiley faces in a row is also creepy and weird btw.

Also lol that it's now "100 lawsuits". Last time I thought it was 40. Now it's 100! Why not, who cares.

[Caroll]

No I really just find it baffling that somebody is so impervious to good-natured, honest attempts to discuss an issue. You are seething with hatred toward anybody who even has a hint of a right leaning perspective. It's creepy. I suppose we should make you personal dictator of the country, since you do not require any new information on any topic.

Three smiley faces in a row is also creepy and weird btw.

Also lol that it's now "100 lawsuits". Last time I thought it was 40. Now it's 100! Why not, who cares.

TLDR

You are so angry. :cool: :cool: :cool:

[douglas1999]

Haha good lord.. seriously get help. Your tit-for-tat playground slapfight posts suck so bad

[Caroll]

Haha good lord.. seriously get help. Your tit-for-tat playground slapfight posts suck so bad

Donald J. Trump lost the election to President-Elect Joseph R. Biden in the 2020 presidential election.

[Ripqozko]

Donald J. Trump lost the election to President-Elect Joseph R. Biden in the 2020 presidential election.

use your main account plinki quit hiding on alts.

[Cassawary]

They also enabled new trade between countries that desperately needed new trade. Those deals will help many impoverished people in the middle east. Weapons also enable nations to defend their sovereignty, they aren't just magically spooky bad things.

"Weapons contract" seems to be a go-to boogeyman for people on the left. Woah woah woah, did you say weapons contract? Everything relating to this is now bad!

Weapon sales usually take the form of stripped down planes without any of our high-tech radar and electronics. It's fine to let a bunch of Turks cruise around at altitude without any ability to target us.

If you love the global poor so much, you should go on r/neoliberal. Might cure the Tims.

[douglas1999]

Weapon sales usually take the form of stripped down planes without any of our high-tech radar and electronics. It's fine to let a bunch of Turks cruise around at altitude without any ability to target us.

If you love the global poor so much, you should go on r/neoliberal. Might cure the Tims.

I don't love the global poor any more than I love anybody else who I've never met and know nothing about, but I can be glad they are better positioned to thrive. My point is that characterizing these peace deals as no big thing just because people must oppose anything trump does is moronic. If a democratic president had secured these deals, you *know* the verbiage about them would be exactly reversed.

*Donald Trump cures cancer.*
"Why didn't donald trump cure diabetes! It affects more people!!"

The peace deals themselves are kind of tertiary to what I'm criticizing, which is the deranged, irrational and lemming-like opposition to the orange man.

[feniin]

use your main account plinki quit hiding on alts.

oh god, I'm busy killing dragons. don't confuse me for this new one :(

Edit: I would never call him Joseph R. Biden. I barely can be bothered to call him Joe.

[Ripqozko]

Why the Carroll account, seems weird .


tbh I forgot why I made it - probably to have one when this was banned for trolling Teppler too hard.

Your words not mine.

[Cassawary]

I don't love the global poor any more than I love anybody else who I've never met and know nothing about, but I can be glad they are better positioned to thrive. My point is that characterizing these peace deals as no big thing just because people must oppose anything trump does is moronic. If a democratic president had secured these deals, you *know* the verbiage about them would be exactly reversed.

*Donald Trump cures cancer.*
"Why didn't donald trump cure diabetes! It affects more people!!"

The peace deals themselves are kind of tertiary to what I'm criticizing, which is the deranged, irrational and lemming-like opposition to the orange man.

You're mad about a hypothetical. You'd fit right in on r/neoliberal!

[Gravydoo II]

Weapon sales usually take the form of stripped down planes without any of our high-tech radar and electronics. It's fine to let a bunch of Turks cruise around at altitude without any ability to target us.

If you love the global poor so much, you should go on r/neoliberal. Might cure the Tims.

So we should give more better guns from our own armories to saudi arabia so they can continue the murder spree in yemen...? Awesome. Thats some peace deal you got there.. Good thing saudi arabia likes isreal now and is now killing yemen with our weapons instead of russias. Thats really good, right? We got paid so its awesome, right? Well not US but.. you know, the MIC.

[Cassawary]

So we should give more better guns from our own armories to saudi arabia so they can continue the murder spree in yemen...? Awesome. Thats some peace deal you got there.. Good thing saudi arabia likes isreal now and is now killing yemen with our weapons instead of russias. Thats really good, right? We got paid so its awesome, right? Well not US but.. you know, the MIC.

UM if we traded shitty planes for a liberalizing society yah that's a good deal on the balance if it goes quick enough. Not like Muslims need our help to kill each other.

What even is SA's beef with Yemen? Is it Baathism or Iran shiiiiiite?

[Jibartik]

Hmm observation.

Winning is a state of mind?

Living the life right now golfing every day. 150 million in donations since the election after taxes. Zero responsibility. Massive amounts of influence.

On the other hand there is a group who got the most votes but has no idea what to do and is still mad.

Who's the winner in this story? :(

[feniin]

Your words not mine.

oh, thought you were talking about Pretzelle - hadn't even noticed that caroll one at that point - also shitposting between pulls so I'm skimming. :o

[douglas1999]

You're mad about a hypothetical. You'd fit right in on r/neoliberal!

No the hypothetical is a device to illustrate what I'm actually mad about. I don't know what r/neoliberal is. Reddit sucks.

[imperiouskitten]

No the hypothetical is a device to illustrate what I'm actually mad about. I don't know what r/neoliberal is. Reddit sucks.

Still posting, little man?

[Cassawary]

No the hypothetical is a device to illustrate what I'm actually mad about. I don't know what r/neoliberal is. Reddit sucks.

Don't knock til you try it, that's all I'm asking.

Warning: cuddles ahead

[douglas1999]

Still posting, little man?

Yes, it's a discussion thread on a discussion forum about the 2020 election. I am making posts within it. Are you okay?

[Trexller]

Still posting, little man?

now you're just getting lazy

[Jibartik]

this sounds like early civil war stuff to me https://www.reddit.com/r/InsaneProtestors/comments/k7f9qt/doing_it_right_california_sheriff_points_out/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[imperiouskitten]

Yes, it's a discussion thread on a discussion forum about the 2020 election. I am making posts within it. Are you okay?

Yes thanks for asking. Just a means of commentary on your sad forum position. I'd seppuku if I lost such face :p

[imperiouskitten]

forum seppuku i mean, don't harm yourself

[Jibartik]

Prediction:

Domestic terror at some point in the next 2 years.

War on domestic terror follows.

All the snowden stuff gets turned back on and then some.

Jesus appears.

[imperiouskitten]

snowden still not pardoned. so glad I voted for that "outsider" in 2016. so many promises kept, how could i not stick by him this year?

[Jibartik]

between snowden and jesus all the people who were too pro trump get jailed.

womp womp.

[White_knight]

https://youtu.be/hRWYau5yHHg

[vegam]

I was disappointed by Trump's defeat.

But I am not losing much sleep over an impending Biden presidency. Joe is a moderate Democrat. His presidency will look a lot like Obama 2.0. He's already ignoring and alienating a lot of the crazy lefties in his party and has appointed Alejandro Mayorkas as Homeland Security who is by no means soft on illegal immigration. I think the Office of the Vice Presidency and the reality of it will shift Kamala rightward toward the center.

[imperiouskitten]

https://youtu.be/hRWYau5yHHg

clicked but didnt click play

*tips fedora*

[BarnabusCollins]

between snowden and jesus all the people who were too pro trump get jailed.

womp womp.

Jesus Christ Almighty is too pro Trump to be jailed. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard to not even be a joke. What's your IQ, 50? Stick to watching CNN its all your tiny brain can absorb.

Ya'll are so fucking stupid I'm going to stop posting in this thread, before I become dumber.

They care about why Trump is great but Biden sucks, why Biden is great but Trump sucks, or their dicks.

Yall some dumb motherfuckers - don't have kids.

[Thulian]

Last mad edited by BarnabusCollins; Today at 06:30 AM. Reason: Mad

[Caroll]

I'm getting excited to participate in the Georgia run-off election. I'm enthusiastic Republicans will stay home since the election is rigged thus securing the Senate to His Honorable Chuck Schumer's political agenda.

*laughs in socialism*

[FatherSioux]

People who defend Snowden are clowns. Guy was a low level hack who stole a cowworkers credentials and exploited it for fame. He told us what we already knew.

[Caroll]

People who defend Snowden are clowns. Guy was a low level hack who stole a cowworkers credentials and exploited it for fame. He told us what we already knew.

Can you share what you think you already knew with us?

[imperiouskitten]

Just because it was obvious doesn't mean the grass-eating TV viewers acknowledge it. Snowden changed the paradigm. That you deny reality in your first response against him is telling.

But you wish for the mass death of Americans in a purge. So there's no need for anyone to listen to any of your bitter, childlike opinions. You may as well identify as a Satanist like that other hateposter (forgot which one, trexller?). You aren't concerned about your own credibility, you just chant "death" from the sidelines.

If you're married, brother, it's not working. Find someone you care to protect.

[Caroll]

But you wish for the mass death of Americans in a purge.


It's always interesting how those who proport to be "patriots" who "love the U.S. constitution" are always the most radically treacherous, seditious and violent people in the country with no regard for their fellow Americans.

[imperiouskitten]

It's always interesting how those who proport to be "patriots" who "love the U.S. constitution" are always the most radically treacherous, seditious and violent people in the country with no regard for their fellow Americans.

Unfortunately, the militarist wing always will attract nihilistic psychopaths. Without some sort of ideological fetters on those people, traditionally imparted by the religious aspect, full-on cannibalism runs the risk of being loosed. As I see these fetters erode even among our highest leaders and those who would pretend piety, my fear grows. Disaster always follows, as in Imperial Japan, Nazi Germany, & everywhere else that "conservatism" becomes conflated with viciousness & the destruction of institutions (so obviously antithetical to conserving).

Seems all that's left of Christianity is to hate "deviants". Even conservative women who sought assimilation into consensus culture through the magic of Western science away from homosexuality. We've mistaken hatred for piety and money for God, and we are paying for it to the tune of 1 million lives presently, having been completely blinded to our national interest by propaganda driven by godless Big Business.

Conservatives are supposed to be enthusiastic about national defense. A real conservative would seek the means to defend from foreign plagues, natural and man-made, as we mature into an era of new and highly sophisticated military and scientific capacity. A real conservative would see right through the atheist charlatan Trump, who after delivering on none of his promises called that he was going to tear at the legitimacy of the election weeks beforehand like Babe Ruth. A real conservative would honor the patriot Snowden who revealed activities contrary to law on a vast scale. They would honor people who seek a path from cloistered subculture back into the world of men and women. What we have instead of conservatives are cannibals, and instead of liberals warmongering delusionals. What a very sickly national consciousness.

I really hate to say this, and I know it's a cliche, but I think this place is going to burn. I don't see how we can survive such insanity and such low-quality collective character without disaster of Biblical scale. Just listen to the people on this board. They are very average.

[Thulian]

tell us more about psychopaths

[imperiouskitten]

they're everywhere. I didn't believe it either til I ceased conforming to a cpl particular categories, plus experienced some hard times. They're eeeeverywhere :(

[FatherSioux]

Just because it was obvious doesn't mean the grass-eating TV viewers acknowledge it. Snowden changed the paradigm. That you deny reality in your first response against him is telling.

But you wish for the mass death of Americans in a purge. So there's no need for anyone to listen to any of your bitter, childlike opinions. You may as well identify as a Satanist like that other hateposter (forgot which one, trexller?). You aren't concerned about your own credibility, you just chant "death" from the sidelines.

If you're married, brother, it's not working. Find someone you care to protect.

You going to just keep replying this over and over? Standard lefty move.

[BarnabusCollins]

Yahoo pretends to be anti-Trump and pro-liberal but if you pay close attention to their website all they really care about is selling shit.

The we hate Trump like you do is just a facade to get ya to click'n buy.

[Gwaihir]

Unfortunately, the militarist wing always will attract nihilistic psychopaths. Without some sort of ideological fetters on those people, traditionally imparted by the religious aspect, full-on cannibalism runs the risk of being loosed. As I see these fetters erode even among our highest leaders and those who would pretend piety, my fear grows. Disaster always follows, as in Imperial Japan, Nazi Germany, & everywhere else that "conservatism" becomes conflated with viciousness & the destruction of institutions (so obviously antithetical to conserving).

Seems all that's left of Christianity is to hate "deviants". Even conservative women who sought assimilation into consensus culture through the magic of Western science away from homosexuality. We've mistaken hatred for piety and money for God, and we are paying for it to the tune of 1 million lives presently, having been completely blinded to our national interest by propaganda driven by godless Big Business.

Conservatives are supposed to be enthusiastic about national defense. A real conservative would seek the means to defend from foreign plagues, natural and man-made, as we mature into an era of new and highly sophisticated military and scientific capacity. A real conservative would see right through the atheist charlatan Trump, who after delivering on none of his promises called that he was going to tear at the legitimacy of the election weeks beforehand like Babe Ruth. A real conservative would honor the patriot Snowden who revealed activities contrary to law on a vast scale. They would honor people who seek a path from cloistered subculture back into the world of men and women. What we have instead of conservatives are cannibals, and instead of liberals warmongering delusionals. What a very sickly national consciousness.

I really hate to say this, and I know it's a cliche, but I think this place is going to burn. I don't see how we can survive such insanity and such low-quality collective character without disaster of Biblical scale. Just listen to the people on this board. They are very average.
Can't go to the gym for 6 months, but you can go to the gay bath houses in San Francisco and suck off random dudes through glory holes.

Priorities

[BarnabusCollins]

"atheist charlatan Trump"

spot on the man has zero CLUE that God Almighty exists and rules all things, including EVERY single thought of man and animal.
God Almighty said a rich man cannot enter the Kingdom, easier for a camel to pass through a 12 inch gap in a mountain pass (eye of the needle).

[imperiouskitten]

You going to just keep replying this over and over? Standard lefty move.

you have no retort. it's the killshot, and yes I'll repeat it a few times so your remarks about desiring a mass-death political event in the United States are known. it debunks your very intent.

You want an event of collective political violence, like the National Socialists you are more aligned with Bolshevism than American Conservatism based on limited government intervention. Tearing at the rule of law is not conservative.

[Soothsayer]

One of the tragedies of this election is that the Trump administration, acting as a mirror for the petty, vindictive nature of the man in the Oval Office, is generally refusing to cooperate with the incoming Biden administration in what would normally be a smooth and peaceful transition process. While thousands of his countrymen die every single day to a deadly virus, the Trump administration - barring a few exceptions - is desperately throwing wrenches into the system to make life as difficult as possible for Biden next year.

How does that behavior serve the interests of the nation? What purpose does it serve? It's infantile, petulant, and very nearly beyond comprehension. The fact that we're actually at this point really bums me out. And that's not even getting into the ramifications of election fraud conspiracies, which have predictably been shredded into oblivion by the courts. And now Trump and his personal attorney are literally asking state legislatures to just sidestep the courts? Really? Really?!??!

At some point, it's no longer about f*cking politics. It's about rule of law, evidence, and the common good.

Trump lost. Biden will be America's next president. As Laura Ingraham of Fox News put it, "this constitutes living in reality."

[Thulian]

Dude, there should not be a transition process because trump won, there is extensive evidence in every important state of massive amounts of democrat fraud. Look at the story of the truck driver with the rig full of ballots from ny.

100% illegal to bring ballots over state lines and a rig is 100k + ballots and he barely lost pa

Biden should not be president nor should he get any briefings or have a cabinet, they should send him to an old folks home and give him a checkerboard ( Chess is too hard )

[Soothsayer]

Dude, there should not be a transition process because trump won, there is extensive evidence in every important state of massive amounts of democrat fraud. Look at the story of the truck driver with the rig full of ballots from ny.

100% illegal to bring ballots over state lines and a rig is 100k + ballots and he barely lost pa

Biden should not be president nor should he get any briefings or have a cabinet, they should send him to an old folks home and give him a checkerboard ( Chess is too hard )

Did the truck driver in question offer photo documentation or other hard evidence of fraudulent out-of-state ballots being transported en masse from New York? What about the fact that ballots are checked during counting to ensure that voters casting those ballots are state residents and legal voters who are actually registered to vote in their state? Did you know that ballots are rejected if the person casting the vote isn't a registered voter of the state they claim residence in? How can people from New York vote in Pennsylvania if this is the case?

Do you think it's possible that this supposed whistleblower just wants his fifteen minutes of fame? Do you believe his claims would stand up in a court of law? Why hasn't the Trump administration shown this to the courts as a slam-dunk case of massive voter fraud that changed the outcome of the election?

[Lune]

Did the truck driver in question offer photo documentation or other hard evidence of fraudulent out-of-state ballots being transported en masse from New York? What about the fact that ballots are checked during counting to ensure that voters casting those ballots are state residents and legal voters who are actually registered to vote in their state? Did you know that ballots are rejected if the person casting the vote isn't a registered voter of the state they claim residence in? How can people from New York vote in Pennsylvania if this is the case?

Do you think it's possible that this supposed whistleblower just wants his fifteen minutes of fame? Do you believe his claims would stand up in a court of law? Why hasn't the Trump administration shown this to the courts as a slam-dunk case of massive voter fraud that changed the outcome of the election?

something something muh liberal media something something muh deep state

[valithteezee]

something something muh liberal media something something muh deep state

So, you pretty much are brushing off any claims of fraud. What about the fact that this truck driver swore under oath of his experience in the days surrounding the election along with countless other sworn testimonies? Or do you believe these are all paid actors ? Should we dismiss video evidence and polling machine forensics because its all just a crack-pot conspiracy?

[BiG SiP]

shit covered underwear avatar guy opinion
(LOL)

[Soothsayer]

So, you pretty much are brushing off any claims of fraud. What about the fact that this truck driver swore under oath of his experience in the days surrounding the election along with countless other sworn testimonies? Or do you believe these are all paid actors ? Should we dismiss video evidence and polling machine forensics because its all just a crack-pot conspiracy?

Nobody is suggesting that these people are paid actors. Moreover, the fact remains that IF ballots were being illegally transported across state lines, these out-of-state ballots would be rejected and - if found in sufficient quantities - would lead to a genuine inquiry and investigation. And what "video evidence" are we referring to, exactly? The thoroughly debunked "bombshell" surveillance footage touted by Giuliani that depicted "suitcases" of ballots which, in reality, turned out to be ordinary ballot containers that were prepared for counting in full view of election observers?

[Mblake81]

One of the tragedies of this election is that the Trump administration, acting as a mirror for the petty, vindictive nature of the man in the Oval Office, is generally refusing to cooperate with the incoming Biden administration in what would normally be a smooth and peaceful transition process. While thousands of his countrymen die every single day to a deadly virus, the Trump administration - barring a few exceptions - is desperately throwing wrenches into the system to make life as difficult as possible for Biden next year.

How does that behavior serve the interests of the nation? What purpose does it serve? It's infantile, petulant, and very nearly beyond comprehension. The fact that we're actually at this point really bums me out. And that's not even getting into the ramifications of election fraud conspiracies, which have predictably been shredded into oblivion by the courts. And now Trump and his personal attorney are literally asking state legislatures to just sidestep the courts? Really? Really?!??!

At some point, it's no longer about f*cking politics. It's about rule of law, evidence, and the common good.

Trump lost. Biden will be America's next president. As Laura Ingraham of Fox News put it, "this constitutes living in reality."

Enjoy it while it lasts.

On Russell Brand’s podcast “Under the Skin,” McConaughey was asked if he noticed a “condemnation and criticism of ordinary working people” in the entertainment industry when it comes to politics.

“[There is] a kind of offhandedness, like, ‘Oh, they’re dumb, they’re voting for Brexit, they’re voting for Trump.’ I don’t like it, and I don’t like to hear it,” Brand said in an episode last week.

McConaughey replied, “There are a lot [of people] on that illiberal left that absolutely condescend, patronize, and are arrogant towards the other 50 percent.”

My apologies to this board for linking a Russel Brand.. anything. Still, people don't understand why Trump was there. You know he wasn't supposed to be there.

[Gwaihir]

Enjoy it while it lasts.



My apologies to this board for linking a Russel Brand.. anything. Still, people don't understand why Trump was there. You know he wasn't supposed to be there.

It was her turn

Or Jeb

[Mblake81]

It was her turn

Or Jeb

We joke about it but..

[booter]

holy shit i can not believe people still think trump won this election

the coping is incredible

imagine how dumb you have to be to believe oann/newsmax