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Old 07-14-2014, 05:25 PM
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Are Enchanters less usefull in Velious? Starting thinking about making one and leveling him insanely to play during velious but heard they are not effective...anyone have more info on this?
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Old 07-14-2014, 05:26 PM
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iirc theres 2 reasons:
1. mobs MR goes up, making mez harder
2. items come with clarity preinstalled, making casted clarity less needed
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Old 07-14-2014, 05:29 PM
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iirc theres 2 reasons:
1. mobs MR goes up, making mez harder
2. items come with clarity preinstalled, making casted clarity less needed
#2 really has no effect on enchanters. the mana regen is +3 at most,wont be super common for awhile and stacks with clarity so people will always want it. Mobs having higher MR might cause a issue but in end all classes will find their niche and are useful in circumstances.
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Old 07-14-2014, 05:46 PM
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iirc theres 2 reasons:
1. mobs MR goes up, making mez harder
2. items come with clarity preinstalled, making casted clarity less needed
Yeah #2 is wrong. No one turns down regrowth just because they are already wearing an iksar bp. Why the hell would people think c2 is less needed just because they've got FT2 or something? Lol. If anything, mobs hitting harder and having more HP make c2 even more important in Velious than in Kunark, even with FT items helping to boost mana regen.

#1 is kinda true, but not really imo. I think it's a level issue. Level 55-60s grinding xp or farming drops aren't going to be fighting level 50-53 nameds like they often are in Kunark. They're going to be fighting level 55-60 nameds. The higher levels mean more resists, though in most cases I don't think MR is specifically boosted, stuff is just more resistant because stuff is higher level. The higher levels also mean immunities to stun/mez. Velious stuff hits harder across the board too, and again, higher levels mean still harder hits on top of that.

But VoG, boon, c2, tash, charm, all still godly. And mana drains, other debuffs, increasingly important in raids. CC is still important, just in a less "we've got a chanter so we can just faceroll our way through 99% of all of Kunark" way and more in a "we got a rampaging level 58 named aggrod on our group of 4 60s along with 2 adds... hopefully the ench can manage some CC to get us through alive!" way.


I haven't been playing at all really, ruined. And if soloing on a chanter didn't work in Velious, I certainly wouldn't be leveling my necro named SOLOmancer up to try to solo in Velious, haha [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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2. items come with clarity preinstalled, making casted clarity less needed
????? back to your shadow priest --->
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iirc theres 2 reasons:
1. mobs MR goes up, making mez harder
2. items come with clarity preinstalled, making casted clarity less needed
#2 as everyone else stated is completely incorrect. All this does is whilst coupled with C2 ensure the utmost effectiveness on whatever content you are farming, whether it be raid or group material.

I for one recall enchanter SG groups being one of the best shindigs to get into. Money money money.
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Old 07-14-2014, 05:39 PM
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Less OP, still very viable.
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Less OP, still very viable.
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Old 07-14-2014, 05:42 PM
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Shaman party in WW...

But really IDK, Tecmos did some testing - He promised us a live stream of some of it but now he is leveling a Necro. Which... might be an indicator on how well his testing went :P
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Old 07-14-2014, 06:00 PM
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Are Enchanters less usefull in Velious? Starting thinking about making one and leveling him insanely to play during velious but heard they are not effective...anyone have more info on this?
Yes, they are less useful due to the high magic resistance of mobs and mez/charm immunity. Doesn't mean they're useless, but enchanters start to become more buff bots with velious.
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