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Old 11-15-2013, 04:33 PM
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Educate yourself before you ask people to waste their time answering your dipshit questions.
Really, there's no point in arguing with someone as dumb as the OP, I'm arguing to educate all the other people who might be listening in and doubting this crock of crap is true...

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Old 11-15-2013, 04:35 PM
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Here's the simplification of how something can come from nothing. Imagine a field of dirt, containing "nothing" for the purposes of our illustration. Now, dig a hole. You have now created a pile of dirt, and a hole. Both somethings, that have come from nothing. Ergo, something from nothing. Physicists have demonstrated that the same thing could have happened at the universal level.

Besides that, you've been asked already, if "nothing created itself...out of nothing...for no reason and without any apparent cause" where did God come from?

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Dirt is something though so already your argument is flawed. Someone their to dig a hole is also not something. It's a person digging a hole. Again your argument is further proven flawed.
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Old 11-15-2013, 04:35 PM
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Really, there's no point in arguing with someone as dumb as the OP, I'm arguing to educate all the other people who might be listening in and doubting this crock of crap is true...

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OP is probably smarter than 98% of everyone on these forums including you
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Old 11-15-2013, 04:36 PM
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Evolution doesn't even touch on abiogenesis. You atheists basically claim that DNA just randomly crapped itself for no reason. Information theory is fun. You can run math of the odds for that amount of randomness of particles in the universe making every living species just on earth, as well as the works of shakespeare. The limit to infinity approaches zero.
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Old 11-15-2013, 04:39 PM
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^, anything 10th to the 50th power is considered to be an impossible occurrence. The odds of billions of lines of code that DNA consists of, forming randomly has been estimated to be a number more vast than all of the stars in the Universe and all of grains of sand on Earth combined. In other words, it exceeds mathematical impossibility by a factor of at least 10. Time in this case would be irrelevant as time cannot cause impossible things to occur.
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Old 11-15-2013, 04:40 PM
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Found the problem. He probably thinks everything he finds here http://www.conservapedia.com/Main_Page is factual.
Yeah true - the really funny part of that page is front and centre is a link to an Anthropologist making claims about evolution and abiogeneis. Like an anthropologist (Masters in Social Anthropology, woo) knows shit about evolutionary biology? Sheesh. Why not trot out Duane Gish, (an engineer)?

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Old 11-15-2013, 04:43 PM
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Dirt is something though so already your argument is flawed. Someone their to dig a hole is also not something. It's a person digging a hole. Again your argument is further proven flawed.
I figured this would be too hard for you but I tried. I said we define it for the purpose of illustration. (sigh) read Lawrence Krauss' "A Universe from Nothing" and get back to us when you've found a clue. Or watch this since your reading comprehension seems a little below average.

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Old 11-15-2013, 04:44 PM
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Illuzionz, I think I can explain in a way you'll believe how two species can come from one.
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Old 11-15-2013, 04:44 PM
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God created the world, and created human beings with high potential intelligence.

Additionally, he made the world so that the more we learn about it, the more preposterous the myths about some Deity from a Bronze Age tribe appear.

Then, when we die, he will send us all to hell for not believing in him even though it was the intelligence he gave us, and the evidential nature of the world, that led us to disbelief.

Why would God do this? Because God is the Supreme Troll.
This is actually similar to Thomas Jefferson's ideas on the Judeo-Christian tradition. He thought that if humanity were created in the image of its god, then that god had bestowed curiosity upon the creation. Jefferson thought, that if this were a just god, then that god would ultimately have to expect his creation to question the very existence of the creator in the absence of hard evidence (ie "not faith").

Of course, Job would say "Fuck THAT?!"
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Old 11-15-2013, 04:48 PM
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I figured this would be too hard for you but I tried. I said we define it for the purpose of illustration. (sigh) read Lawrence Krauss' "A Universe from Nothing" and get back to us when you've found a clue. Or watch this since your reading comprehension seems a little below average.

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I've read Krauss' book. It's nonsense. He doesn't even know what the word nothing means just like you don't. You can't illustrate dirt and someone digging a hole as "something from nothing" but obviously you have some sort of down syndrome that makes you incapable of realizing this.
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