Guys, TMO is still killing dragons...

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think this is why class R exists. No?

Stop making sense!

[White Ranger Rides]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think this is why class R exists. No?

Yes, but only when class R guilds want to dictate the terms of class R. See example:

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The tiers exist to differentiate play-styles, not levels of gear or access to content (besides VP). If Dildjo wants to play competitively, theirs 2/3s of the mobs for that.

When class R guilds want more than their allotted dragon of the week (the term dragon being used to encompass all raid mobs) the the class distinction is no longer a fundamental playstyle difference and all classes should adhere to their definition of raiding. Make sense?

[Kasyra]

Originally Posted by Hashire [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

says october 2013 join date

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which just serves to prove my point, thanks for doing that.

[Breaken]

Straight from Rogean about BDA's Trakanon suspension...


"That is way too close, not to mention the spirit of this rule should indiciate that it is unacceptable to have a raid force anywhere in the zone when a raid mob spawned, as it is an unfair advantage over the other guilds following the rules."

I'm not saying 5 is a raid force, but then, what is?

[slappytwotoes]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We're looking for concrete rules as well. Everyone had been inside KC at zone in (as we have for years waiting for targets) so we sat there as well. If they'd like to clarify those rules we'd be more than happy to follow them. People sit at the zone in to seb for trak as well, I'd imagine this is similar.

Which is honestly what Striker's post is trying to do. OP rips on the recommendations presented but maybe this gets server staff's attention when other ways of asking haven't.

[Turp_SmokinPurp]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The whole point of the play nice policy, specifically in the FFA cycles, was to promote competition
These tactics aren't fostering competition.
There's no race. VS spawns and a cleric/warrior pair stalls for X seconds while a force that's been logged in for Y hours at the KC entrance beelines to VS. That's not really competition. I know RnF is already blowing up about this because it's fun to rip on the class R guilds but anyone who thinks this is tantamount to competition needs to get their fucking head checked. What's done is done, but going forward I'd like there to be actual competition and not a roll of the dice to see which pet Sev/Fay aggros or which warrior/cleric duo can snap off a mallet/net charge 3.2 seconds after VS spawns.

I do not understand how you can care about competition when you are a co inventor of class R-otation. Seriously LOL. You do not want any competition imo.

Not just singling you out , just using your post as an example . Almost everyone followed suite with you and are saying the same thing.

I am not sure why you (and all of those class R leaders posting) are acting like TMO had a force waiting, already logged in already at KC entrance. Like we just sitting there waiting to run back.
Which is not true. If we did have 4-5 at entrance it was because we had just taken down Draco an people was still moving around an setting up in case of VS etc. TMO just logged in faster. Sure you could change the trackers cannot engage rule, make a bit more race. (not a terrible idea) But would it really be any different?

What more do you guys want?...

[quido]

It was stated that being at the KC/Seb zone-in is fine.

[Breaken]

Where? By who?

[quido]

Who said that wasn't alright? It was just a demonstration of how dumb the new raid rules are.

[Breaken]

I believe Rogean said it wasn't alright. Hence the quote that was posted.