Game Mechanics: Zoning at low HP / buff removal

[Scrubosaur]

Ya common strat was to fight a dotting caster at the zone line that way if things got hairy you could zone out at low health and all the dots would drop.

[TWDL_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But you will when u should soon. Dots keeping track of whether they should cause exp loss death, across zone lines, will patch soon.

H

How come you are changing the exp loss but not fixing this bug and making it classic. Doesn't seem right.

[Crom]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But you will when u should soon. Dots keeping track of whether they should cause exp loss death, across zone lines, will patch soon.

H

Actually you do sometimes still loose exp now, it's a bit random, changing it to allways will only benefit one class that can cast a DOT and Rez them selfs...(here is a clue, he was the one supporting it a few posts earlier, wonder why he was supporting this change...)

[Haynar]

Originally Posted by TWDL_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How come you are changing the exp loss but not fixing this bug and making it classic. Doesn't seem right.

Classic, was you always lose exp if you die from a dot on blue. I dont know what pvp servers were like.

If you died from a dot in a duel or in the arena, it was a exp loss death. This was true at least into PoP.

H

[Nirgon]

PvP = no xp loss from environmentals like burning/falling/drowning/bleeding out. I linked evidence in one of the red threads about 4 level range being classic iirc. Zoning from NPC dot would also be no xp lost, death to dot from npc otherwise would do it.

PvE = xp lost on fall/drown/burning. Dots from NPCs too after you zone... but I cannot comment on dots from players after you zone.


I think pain and suffering if it ever managed to hit you (never in my experience) would always cause xp loss but that needs research.

[Daldaen]

While we are on the topic of deaths... I need to find some evidence in favor of knocked unconscious HP (or purple HP).

I recall you being allowed to go to -10 HP at which point you would die. And at -6 or -8 you were starting to bleed to death which I think acted to counteract your innate regen and eventually kill you unless you got a heal.

But here on low levels I've gotten hit for 5 with 4 HP left and died. When I should've just got knocked unconscious with -1 HP and been allowed the chance to regen and get back up and fight if the mob missed a few times in a row.

That deserves it's own post and research though.

[Nubben]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

While we are on the topic of deaths... I need to find some evidence in favor of knocked unconscious HP (or purple HP).

I recall you being allowed to go to -10 HP at which point you would die. And at -6 or -8 you were starting to bleed to death which I think acted to counteract your innate regen and eventually kill you unless you got a heal.

But here on low levels I've gotten hit for 5 with 4 HP left and died. When I should've just got knocked unconscious with -1 HP and been allowed the chance to regen and get back up and fight if the mob missed a few times in a row.

That deserves it's own post and research though.

This is so classic and definitely deserves a thread. I definitely remember laying there unconscious, and getting lucky with a few misses, popping up, and landing the killing hit. Several times. I also got saved from a well-timed bandage by a higher level player while I was unconscious once.

It shouldn't be too hard to prove the -10 HP for being unconscious part, since they later added AA's to increase the amount below 0 that you can go. The hard part might be figuring out when the bleeding to death starts.

[BlkCamel]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

While we are on the topic of deaths... I need to find some evidence in favor of knocked unconscious HP (or purple HP).

I recall you being allowed to go to -10 HP at which point you would die. And at -6 or -8 you were starting to bleed to death which I think acted to counteract your innate regen and eventually kill you unless you got a heal.

But here on low levels I've gotten hit for 5 with 4 HP left and died. When I should've just got knocked unconscious with -1 HP and been allowed the chance to regen and get back up and fight if the mob missed a few times in a row.

That deserves it's own post and research though.

I have purple club'd on this server, so I know it works. Was in perma bear pits, hit the floor and popped up. Purple club does exist.

[TWDL_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Classic, was you always lose exp if you die from a dot on blue. I dont know what pvp servers were like.

If you died from a dot in a duel or in the arena, it was a exp loss death. This was true at least into PoP.

H

What is in the OP is also classic. Only fair to leave the no exp death in, if you are going to leave the buff/dot stripping out.

[Crom]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

While we are on the topic of deaths... I need to find some evidence in favor of knocked unconscious HP (or purple HP).

I recall you being allowed to go to -10 HP at which point you would die. And at -6 or -8 you were starting to bleed to death which I think acted to counteract your innate regen and eventually kill you unless you got a heal.

But here on low levels I've gotten hit for 5 with 4 HP left and died. When I should've just got knocked unconscious with -1 HP and been allowed the chance to regen and get back up and fight if the mob missed a few times in a row.

That deserves it's own post and research though.

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=7619

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/show...ht=purple+club

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/show...ht=purple+club

(I admit being one of the posters in some of the threads [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] )