so you guys are looking for EQ Minus....

[fastboy21]

like nobody else used to aim themselves at aten ha's boobies when the ae gflux would go off...then start jamming the screen shot key in the hopes of getting a pic just right!

[myriverse]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there is no community on the servers. you can easily solo with mercs (or box...free accounts now) almost to max level. you can raid with your guild without ever even knowing who the other raid guilds are most of the time (instanced content).

This was, generally, my Classic Live experience though. I knew a few people in a few guilds outside my own, but only a few. It never really mattered.

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

like nobody else used to aim themselves at aten ha's boobies when the ae gflux would go off...then start jamming the screen shot key in the hopes of getting a pic just right!

Uh... no. Too much real porn on the Net already.

Originally Posted by Reubin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty much everything you listed except the music. SoL took the fantasy D&D style game I loved and changed the mechanics and made it a Sci-Fi game. It was still an ok game but the magic was gone for me. There is a reason people call it 'Cats on the Moon' here. I actually liked the PoP and LDoN expansions. But by that time it was a completely different game to me.

No. Luclin was never a scifi thing. The moon was just another place like Norrath.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They'd have to make a classic server locked permanently up to velious with classic mechanics.

In short - they'd have to make project 199.

Even then it wouldn't be as good for a few big reasons:
-no two boxing allowed here
-hard stance vs RMT
-hard stance vs cheating

SoE server would be decidedly not classic with hacking, botting, legit boxing, and RMT.

That's why I now play on P1999

except for the part about locking it at Velious, ^^^ this. I personally wouldn't mind Luclin and PoP as long as classic ruleset was kept in place. Cats on the moon! Shards! Flagging raids! And damn, was Bertox ugly.

And basically, killing Quarm should reset the server back to classic. Xebuxuruk said it would....

[drew0987654]

lol I wish SoE was interested in making a server for this crowd, sadly I'm the same "drew0987654" on eq and the official forums [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think those guys are interested. I really am surprised that 70% of you wouldn't be satisfied if they got rid of mercs/ridiculous gear/free aa's/fast travel.... the multiboxing/bots/hacking??? that's just something I never ran into, ever. it's obviously too rare for me to care about. I like how most of you also have a specific expansion + every single one after it that you're just like, 'nope, count me out if those zones are in here.' strange.... "luclin's fine, it's the damn PoP!" "huh? omens of war was the last good expansion!" lol.

at this point I have to assume that you forum folk are the most adamant and purist among the players here and that since 30% here don't need more than what I figured, then it's probably upwards of half of the members on p99 servers that would be happy with an official server if it just didn't have mercs and all that. do you guys think that's a fair assumption or do you feel like the poll's 30% represents it better? a third of 40k is still a whole lot, I hope SoE sees this....

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by drew0987654 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

at this point I have to assume that you forum folk are the most adamant and purist among the players here and that since 30% here don't need more than what I figured, then it's probably upwards of half of the members on p99 servers that would be happy with an official server if it just didn't have mercs and all that. do you guys think that's a fair assumption or do you feel like the poll's 30% represents it better? a third of 40k is still a whole lot, I hope SoE sees this....

the logic and math here is fun. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Tecmos Deception]

God damn this OP is dumb.

I wish I had more to say, but every time I get through 1-2 sentences of his, I can't even continue reading, and I'm at a loss for what else to say than that.

[Rararboker]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

God damn this OP is dumb.

I wish I had more to say, but every time I get through 1-2 sentences of his, I can't even continue reading, and I'm at a loss for what else to say than that.

That ^. Lol.


SOE servers are a joke. And half of what you say sounds ridiculous. People are advertising RMT sales daily. You really don't see people advertising to buy/sell Kronos? That is RMT. The SOE store? That is RMT. I even saw a guy advertising Beam PL's for $8.99 per pull. He said you paid him over paypal and marked it as a "donation" to avoid any legal trouble. Not to mention the insane power bloat (as another member here put it) as well as mercs and some of the other crazy things they decided to add to the game.

TBH, the best suggestion I ever saw for making a good server was on this very forum. Guy said to add in classic/Kunark/Velious, skip Luclin, and add in PoP. Remove the books for fast travel (so wizard/druid port is the only way to get to PoK) and then remove PoT. Then you make connections in old world zones for all of the new planes. I don't remember the specifics of where they placed the spots but they would all work like PoFear now. Basically a spot in a zone where there is a portal/item to click that brings you there if you meet the requirements. I want to say Bertoxxulolus realm was in Qeynos Sewers, in the suggestion? Rallos Zek's zone-in would be somewhere near the Ogre homeland, perhaps inside the town? Etc for each of the individual planes.

I'd play that shit. Classic + some extra places to enjoy without ruining the overall dynamic that a classic server has. But then again, p1999 already mostly fits that anyway so it isn't a big concern.

[myriverse]

Also, although I'm just being too nostalgic and I do see the need to generate interest in dead zones, I generally wasn't a fan of the zone revamps in the first 5-6 years. Befallen might be the only exception to that. One of my favourite experiences as an SK was the time spent in CT. It was nowhere near the same having to kill the Darkforge mobs outside.

[Troxx]

Project 1999 is win because ...

-no revamped zones
-no revamped models
-no bazaar forces players to interface
-no instances forces players to interface
-no instances forces GUILDS to interface
-no nexus/PoP forces player to interface
-no Mercs forces players to interface
-no boxing forces players to interface
-original lore is intact

Modern EQ has devolved into a single player game. All of my best eq memories were the moments shared with others.

[drew0987654]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

God damn this OP is dumb.

I wish I had more to say, but every time I get through 1-2 sentences of his, I can't even continue reading, and I'm at a loss for what else to say than that.

this argument is flawless, grats tecmo's fan.

Originally Posted by Rararboker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

SOE servers are a joke. And half of what you say sounds ridiculous. People are advertising RMT sales daily. You really don't see people advertising to buy/sell Kronos? That is RMT. The SOE store? That is RMT. I even saw a guy advertising Beam PL's for $8.99 per pull. He said you paid him over paypal and marked it as a "donation" to avoid any legal trouble. Not to mention the insane power bloat (as another member here put it) as well as mercs and some of the other crazy things they decided to add to the game.

I already stated: I stay off of the trade chat channels so no I don't see ppl trying to sell krono for actual money. the soe store... that's cosmetic, it's not like they're selling top tier raid gear in there.

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the logic and math here is fun. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

well when 70% of the voters said "you'd have to do more than that" in a multiple choice poll, that means 30% of the voters think everything that needs to be changed is in the poll options. the forum posters are the hardest to please, the more casual (and majority) of players aren't posting in the forum. it's just an educated guess that at least 50% of the community here would be all for an official server if it had a death penalty and no merc's/free aa's/etc.