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Old 09-01-2021, 12:14 PM
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I've learned a lot of dialectical behavior therapy stuff it's pretty cool. If you have intense emotions or urges you want to stop or change it's got options.
Ya I think DBT has become the gold standard these days. Change non-effective thoughts/beliefs, changing destructive behaviors, radical acceptance of things outside one’s control

I only had a full on panic attack once in my life. I did have a lot of stress at the time and a lot on my mind, and when getting out of the shower all of a sudden heart was racing, room was almost spinning, walls started closing in. Had never experienced one before so was a bit freaked at first, almost thought I might be hallucinating. But from working in behavioral health I knew about grounding techniques/mindfulness so I put myself through the paces. Touch the towel, what does it feel like, what color is it. What does the floor feel like, what can you smell. Hear the AC buzzing overhead

Ended up quickly pulling myself out of it. Big fan of grounding, it really can work
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Old 09-01-2021, 01:46 PM
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DBT is my favorite. Avoiding and refusing to accept reality is where most of our pain/trauma comes from. DBT gives you tools to confront and accept things and move on. I always found CBT absolutely worthless.
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I think it's important to remember everything isn't stacked against you. Like I'll argue about politics and whatever in here, but I would literally invite anyone in these forums into my house if they were in need. I don't wish for the demise of people I strongly disagree with, I put their humanity first. I didn't always think like that, but it's clearly a better path forward. It's easy to get sociopathic online and to forget we are all humans and fundamentally we should all have eachother's backs. Especially cause we're all everquest dorks.
It is nice to remember that our similarities outweigh our differences.

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105 days nicotine free.
Nice, Cecily!! <3

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going to focus on school

and play eq less

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Those are good goals. Hope you keep us updated.

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For Cecile, since she insists I post my personal health goals:

I’d like to keep the visible six pack that I have

I’d like to continue to never smoke or over-drink

I’d like to be further into first place the next 5k run I compete in. 2 minutes between me and the person in 2nd wasn’t enough

I’d like to move up from 365lb squat to 405

/sigh
Yeah I prefer everyone sharing goals, too. If you have the six pack abs genetics I'd imagine that simply keeping up your endurance training would be enough to ensure you don't lose them. Legit endurance athletes never seem able to hold on to much fat as their training ramps up.

The squat goal is a good one, too. What I hope for myself is to be stronger than those with better cardio endurance than me, and to have better cardio endurance than those stronger than me. I want both.

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I apologize to anyone else for trying to be motivational. It helped me but wtf do I know

I will only post support of others in this thread, no more motivational stuff
Moderation in all things, right? :P

I am also a ho for motivational bullshit, but maybe one link a day would work better lol.

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I've learned a lot of dialectical behavior therapy stuff it's pretty cool. If you have intense emotions or urges you want to stop or change it's got options.
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Ya I think DBT has become the gold standard these days. Change non-effective thoughts/beliefs, changing destructive behaviors, radical acceptance of things outside one’s control

I only had a full on panic attack once in my life. I did have a lot of stress at the time and a lot on my mind, and when getting out of the shower all of a sudden heart was racing, room was almost spinning, walls started closing in. Had never experienced one before so was a bit freaked at first, almost thought I might be hallucinating. But from working in behavioral health I knew about grounding techniques/mindfulness so I put myself through the paces. Touch the towel, what does it feel like, what color is it. What does the floor feel like, what can you smell. Hear the AC buzzing overhead

Ended up quickly pulling myself out of it. Big fan of grounding, it really can work
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DBT is my favorite. Avoiding and refusing to accept reality is where most of our pain/trauma comes from. DBT gives you tools to confront and accept things and move on. I always found CBT absolutely worthless.
That's interesting. I'm reading a CBT book from the 80s rn. How does DBT differ from CBT?

Anyway, thanks for posting guys. This is nice; maybe something positive can come from spamming EQ boards?
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Old 09-01-2021, 02:31 PM
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I'm not being negative. I'm merely making fun of your spam and hoping you will stop making the thread unreadable. Thanks.

105 days nicotine free.
That is something I can relate to! Had to quit smoking and gave up smoking weed about four months ago. I was an every day smoker and now I'm sober af, it took some getting used to but I feel much happier now with that monkey off my back.

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I'll be able to give you a better answer in the future but I THINK CBT is more changing negative thought patterns so they don't lead to negative behavior. I think this approach is complete horse shit. And DBT is more practical in the moment acceptance and dealing with situations? I mostly know I vastly prefer DBT having gone through a lot of useless CBT therapy. The DBT tools I've used on my own have been way more useful, and I'd like to try a therapist who uses that modality.

DBT was designed for Borderline Personality Disorder and is actually useful for treating it. If it can help those people deal with their emotional extremes, I figure it's a good way for anyone to learn how to regulate their emotions.
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School:

This has to come first. I'm doing some extremely difficult coursework this semester, and thus far have basically just not done any of the necessary studying. The entire reason I ended up back on these silly forums is bc I've been practicing "creative avoidance," and that needs to end. So I've booked my first appointment at focusmate, which promises to be awkward. Webcam chat with a stranger to be productive. We'll see if it helps.

Training:

Training is going pretty well. I adjusted my programming for the semester to something more barebones, in order to save time for studying. The volume is lower for each workout, but the idea is I maybe get one (at most) rest day a week to sort of make up for it.

A:
Pull up - 6xAMRAP
Squat - 3x8
Bench - 3x8
RDL - 3x8

B:
Chin up - 6xAMRAP
Hip thrust - 3x8
Bench - 3x8
Good morning - 3x8

Currently my biceps tendinopathy is acting up (maybe too much bench and chins), so I'm alternating between doing pulls/chins and bench- not doing both each day.

I haven't been doing cardio at all, which needs to change. Recently purchased a new bike. A goal for tomorrow is to ride it around, just for 20 mins.

Diet:

Diet isn't a super big focus of mine rn. I successfully bulked up to 160lbs and now have quite a bit of fat I could stand to lose. I'm trying to eat a big bowl of oatmeal with pea milk, greek yogurt (5g sugar/cup), and a bunch of berries for breakfast each morning I don't have work. So I'll try to keep that up.

Self-care

Wednesdays are my big self-care days, as I prepare for my work week! My goal is to have all the things done before 8pm bedtime :P

I hope to provide an update to all my things tomorrow.
Tomorrow has come!

School:

I legitimately tried the focusmate thing, but the guy I matched with never showed up. It was giving me anxiety sitting there awkwardly in front of my webcam, but that's what I get for being a sad lazy person. My plan is to force myself through this awkward webcam stuff until I learn my lesson and start acting right. Anyone foolish enough to stand in my way will suffer for it, and that includes me.

The time I was supposed to spend on webcam was spent creating my study materials. It was nice to finally get over my study paralysis. I will continue with it after posting here.

Training:

Woke up ready to go for a 20 minute bike ride only to find the air quality index was high af and the outside to be super smoky. It made me mad enough to buy a stationary bike on amazon. Now I have to figure out where in my gym to put it. It's p cramped in here lol

Barbell stuff went fine. Biceps tendon is angry. I will have to teach it a lesson with training tomorrow.

Diet:

Diet today been fine. Literally all I've eaten is that oatmeal with yogurt and berries, and a protein shake.

Self-care:

am skincare was done. the bigger stuff comes in the pm.

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Old 09-01-2021, 02:45 PM
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That is something I can relate to! Had to quit smoking and gave up smoking weed about four months ago. I was an every day smoker and now I'm sober af, it took some getting used to but I feel much happier now with that monkey off my back.
Gratz!
Thank you! You've got like half a month on me. Congratulations! Keep it up. It was bad for an entire 3 months and I just felt useless that whole time. Starting to feel better psychologically and I need to right now because this semester is hard AF. Women and your anatomy. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Tomorrow has come!

School:

I legitimately tried the focusmate thing, but the guy I matched with never showed up. It was giving me anxiety sitting there awkwardly in front of my webcam, but that's what I get for being a sad lazy person. My plan is to force myself through this awkward webcam stuff until I learn my lesson and start acting right. Anyone foolish enough to stand in my way will suffer for it, and that includes me.

The time I was supposed to spend on webcam was spent creating my study materials. It was nice to finally get over my study paralysis. I will continue with it after posting here.
Keep me posted on what works for you. I'm experiencing the same more or less. Congrats on getting past it! I think the biggest thing is cultivating a habit. 1 hour of studying every day minimum (advice given to me from a nursing leadership student who was about to graduate) should be doable and help make studying less of an ordeal to get started.
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That is something I can relate to! Had to quit smoking and gave up smoking weed about four months ago. I was an every day smoker and now I'm sober af, it took some getting used to but I feel much happier now with that monkey off my back.

Gratz!
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I'll be able to give you a better answer in the future but I THINK CBT is more changing negative thought patterns so they don't lead to negative behavior. I think this approach is complete horse shit. And DBT is more practical in the moment acceptance and dealing with situations? I mostly know I vastly prefer DBT having gone through a lot of useless CBT therapy. The DBT tools I've used on my own have been way more useful, and I'd like to try a therapist who uses that modality.

DBT was designed for Borderline Personality Disorder and is actually useful for treating it. If it can help those people deal with their emotional extremes, I figure it's a good way for anyone to learn how to regulate their emotions.
I'm definitely interested in DBT. Maybe someone has a good book recommendation; I love self-help books!!

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Thank you! You've got like half a month on me. Congratulations! Keep it up. It was bad for an entire 3 months and I just felt useless that whole time. Starting to feel better psychologically and I need to right now because this semester is hard AF. Women and your anatomy. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
It only gets better from here, one hopes. Glad you're feeling better Cec <3

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Keep me posted on what works for you. I'm experiencing the same more or less. Congrats on getting past it! I think the biggest thing is cultivating a habit. 1 hour of studying every day minimum (advice given to me from a nursing leadership student who was about to graduate) should be doable and help make studying less of an ordeal to get started.
Yeahhh the hard part for me is getting started. I'm the absolute worst procrastinator. So the focusmate is my plan for that, and it seems to be working. You probably already have your study style down, but in case it's helpful for anyone:

I use this app called Anki where you basically make your own flashcards. Can sync it with your phone too so you've always got your study stuff ready to go. Whenever I end up in those awkward RL situations where you pull your phone out to avoid interacting with people you can study. I use it constantly. Trying not to dox myself, but here's what it looks like as I prepare my study materials:

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Old 09-01-2021, 03:24 PM
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Yeah I prefer everyone sharing goals, too. If you have the six pack abs genetics I'd imagine that simply keeping up your endurance training would be enough to ensure you don't lose them. Legit endurance athletes never seem able to hold on to much fat as their training ramps up.

The squat goal is a good one, too. What I hope for myself is to be stronger than those with better cardio endurance than me, and to have better cardio endurance than those stronger than me. I want both
I had posted this vid before, but this guy Pavel is brilliant when it comes to giving a good overview on endurance building. He does training for navy seals, special forces, and elite competitive endurance athletes in the past. If you just watch a few minutes, it becomes quite clear that he really knows his stuff

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=

When it comes to improving squat/deadlift/bench, the big 3, I really like this smaller channel. This elite powerlifting athlete is very soft-spoken and pleasant to listen to, very knowledgeable, and he does videos where he critiques viewers form on lifts they submit. I actually found that these critiques are more helpful than just being shown the powerlifter’s personal way of doing it, because everyone has a different body type and what works for a powerlifter may not work for everyone

https://m.youtube.com/c/calgarybarbell/featured

It sounds like I’m speaking to another fellow what we call “hybrid” athlete, meaning someone that wants to dabble in both cardio and lifting, and be as good as possible in both. This is me as well. Unfortunately, these are somewhat mutually exclusive in the fact that upper body muscle is often “dead weight” for endurance sports like distance running. But these are not mutually exclusive to the extent that many in the fitness community claim. A lot of the fitness community act like doing cardio and following a clean eating plan will result in “LOSING YOUR GAINS” due to burning muscle. Based on my experience, this is largely overblown. Just stick to shorter distances like I do, such as 5k’s or shorter runs, shorter cycling if you want to cycle etc. It’s really only long distance half or full marathons that will really fully deplete the body’s glycogen stores to the point where it might need to start cannabalizing muscle. But make sure you are taking in enough calories and don’t be scared of complex carbs such as whole wheat bread, oatmeal, etc. Carbs are only unhealthy for sedentary people who are not burning them, but that are very important as an energy source for active people (more: I am not a dietician and there are effective diets such as Keto that may be completely different)
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Tomorrow has come!

Barbell stuff went fine. Biceps tendon is angry. I will have to teach it a lesson with training tomorrow.
Pain is the body’s way of signaling there is an issue there. Respect it, don’t punish it!

Also, losing grip strength can be an indication you are training too hard. Little known fact in the fitness community. So pay attention to any sudden drops in grip strength to where you feel you can’t hang onto a bar as easily. A lot of people will claim overtraining is a myth, but it’s not, especially for someone trying to go really hard when starting out
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