Spells: Pacify duration incorrect for timeline

[funry]

Is this being prioritized to revert this back to 7minutes? It seems like enough evidence was provided to contradict this "fix". Please rollback asap.

[BardP99EQ]

Stop it. Castersrealm was the 'proof' for this egregious setback? lol

That site was well-known to be unsupported (especially in Velious) and full of errors.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by jungels [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm sorry but castersrealm was widely known to not be updated, back then, and an inaccurate resource to use.

That's not true at all. Castersrealm pulled the info directly from the server and was confirmed correct by devs back then.

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I feel like a lot of the "I remember lull/charm being useless on live" testimonies don't take into account that people most likely tried to lull/charm even cons with low charisma.

Trying to Lull blue cons while having a good amount of charisma often did not work. As shown in the other thread, Lulls simply got resisted far more often back then, which also meant more critical resists, meaning it was rarely a reliable tool.

[Ichewith]

if we are taking testimony into account wouldnt the p99 player base be the best source since most of us played back then? as a chanter through my whole eq career i know for sure that if you built right ie charis (most didnt back then and built int) lull worked pretty reliably. if ya want to use forum posts as verified info on a game i highly reccomend you visit some new ones and see how outlandishly misinformed people were on builds and how to play said game.

[Rygar]

Originally Posted by Ichewith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if we are taking testimony into account wouldnt the p99 player base be the best source since most of us played back then? as a chanter through my whole eq career i know for sure that if you built right ie charis (most didnt back then and built int) lull worked pretty reliably. if ya want to use forum posts as verified info on a game i highly reccomend you visit some new ones and see how outlandishly misinformed people were on builds and how to play said game.

Edit: oops, I forgot the client decompile was for the charm break stuff Torven figured out.

But to answer you question: I played back in the day but often I mix eras. As an example I was doing velious content during Luclin and even PoP, so often hard to pinpoint exact era my velious memories were in.

Memories can help lead us to a path, but things like that splat file can back it up as can other forum posts.

[Duik]

Splat file. My wizzie had one of those.

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But to answer you question: I played back in the day but often I mix eras. As an example I was doing velious content during Luclin and even PoP, so often hard to pinpoint exact era my velious memories were in.

This, imho accounts for many "memory malfunctions" unless said player didnt play past Velious.

[Impact1983]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's not true at all. Castersrealm pulled the info directly from the server and was confirmed correct by devs back then.

You must have lived through a different timeline of reality because I remember Castersrealm being essentially abandoned and not updated in Velious.

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trying to Lull blue cons while having a good amount of charisma often did not work. As shown in the other thread, Lulls simply got resisted far more often back then, which also meant more critical resists, meaning it was rarely a reliable tool.

My chanter is 55 with 243 charisma self buffed and this week I was reliably pulling the froglok king and his PH (level 47) from behind using calm crit resists to work around his throne's LOS.

So by your own logic it's fine.

[nyclin]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's not true at all. Castersrealm pulled the info directly from the server and was confirmed correct by devs back then.



Trying to Lull blue cons while having a good amount of charisma often did not work. As shown in the other thread, Lulls simply got resisted far more often back then, which also meant more critical resists, meaning it was rarely a reliable tool.

CR was a terribly basic, rarely updated website. It didn't pull anything "directly from the server" (what does this even mean?) and relied on user-supplied info, not spdat parses or "the server."

On live I had an ENC bound outside of Sebilis during early-mid Velious and I would regularly solo my way to NG while naked, using Lull. Also never had much of an issue with charm breaks, despite all of the claims to the contrary that I see in this forum.

[Duik]

The mobs were just averting their eyes im sure.