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Old 07-21-2025, 03:47 PM
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You're assuming you know exactly how AC works on p99. Better make sure, and also to be completely sure we'd need to know the actual AC of an NPC in game, which is something only devs would be able to say. Have they stated a number anywhere, for an NPC? Without having exact info, it's possible the AC of NPC's on p99 are all custom (unlikely, given the amount of work it would have taken to change every NPC in game, although they've definitely made custom changes to certain NPC's).

But anyway, you should still run the parses at 550 and 900 AC and see what the difference is compared to the 400 AC parse you did.
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Old 07-21-2025, 04:05 PM
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You're assuming you know exactly how AC works on p99. Better make sure, and also to be completely sure we'd need to know the actual AC of an NPC in game, which is something only devs would be able to say. Have they stated a number anywhere, for an NPC? Without having exact info, it's possible the AC of NPC's on p99 are all custom (unlikely, given the amount of work it would have taken to change every NPC in game, although they've definitely made custom changes to certain NPC's).

But anyway, you should still run the parses at 550 and 900 AC and see what the difference is compared to the 400 AC parse you did.
You can solve for AC without a database dump from P99. As an easy example, 100 + X = 300 is solvable. The answer is 200. When using a set of parses like Snaggle's parses, we know all of the variables already except for Mob AC. We know Warriors gain 5 Defense Skill per level, so Defense Skill would be capped at 200 at level 45 for Shady.

I already have P99 parses with multiple classes and weapon sets attacking the same mob. Using the same defensive stats for that mob, my DPS calculator matches the P99 parses. I am not sure how you can claim that is pure coincidence.

I posted these example parses in my DPS calculator thread. My code is open source too.
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Old 07-21-2025, 04:33 PM
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We know Warriors gain 5 Defense Skill per level, so Defense Skill would be capped at 200 at level 45 for Shady.
NPC's don't necessary follow the same rules applied to PC's. We know they do in many cases, but that doesn't mean it's always true.
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NPC's don't necessary follow the same rules applied to PC's. We know they do in many cases, but that doesn't mean it's always true.
As I said before:

I already have P99 parses with multiple classes and weapon sets attacking the same mob. Using the same defensive stats for that mob for all of those P99 parses, my DPS calculator matches the P99 parses. I am not sure how you can claim that is pure coincidence.

I posted these example parses in my DPS calculator thread. My code is open source too.
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Old 07-21-2025, 04:45 PM
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I already have P99 parses with multiple classes and weapon sets attacking the same mob.
So? That's one mob in game. It says nothing about the possible custom changes added to various other mobs. The point being, don't assume the stats something has because of its level.
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Old 07-21-2025, 04:52 PM
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So? That's one mob in game. It says nothing about the possible custom changes added to various other mobs. The point being, don't assume the stats something has because of its level.
The point is I have proven that I can find the defensive values like AC for mobs using my DPS calculator.

Feel free to provide a set of parses like Snaggles for a mob you think is too custom for my calculator.
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I just re-skimmed that thread and didn't see these parses with "multiple classes and weapon sets". It might be helpful in convincing the sceptics (like me) if you collected all your verification/validation parses into a single post in that thread.
Its linked in the post in my signature. You didn't read that thread very well the first time either, hence your faulty AC values for a level 45 mob. As I keep telling you, you need to do more than skim.
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Old 07-21-2025, 05:02 PM
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Its linked in the post in my signature.
So this is the entirety of your validation parses?

Sznake vs. Eldak Howlingbear - Epic Fist + Stave of Shielding
Sznake vs. Mentrax Mountainbone - Imbued Fighters Staff
Bazgek vs. Corudoth - Ancient Fire Etched Flamberge
Bazgek vs. Corudoth - Frostwrath
Shamwowi vs. Mentrax Mountainbone - Blight, Hammer of the Scourge
Shamwowi vs. Corudoth - Spear of Fate
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The point is I have proven that I can find the defensive values like AC for mobs using my DPS calculator.
No, you haven't. There are a variety of things that can cause a result.

Again, do a parse against 550 and 800 AC targets. Let's see how well those parses align with in-game raid parses. That would be a good starting point.
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As I said before:

I already have P99 parses with multiple classes and weapon sets attacking the same mob. Using the same defensive stats for that mob for all of those P99 parses, my DPS calculator matches the P99 parses. I am not sure how you can claim that is pure coincidence.

I posted these example parses in my DPS calculator thread. My code is open source too.
I just re-skimmed that thread and didn't see these parses with "multiple classes and weapon sets". It might be helpful in convincing the sceptics (like me) if you collected all your verification/validation parses into a single post in that thread.
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