Ranger Geo Parsing (many weapons)

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Awsten_Tx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but proc weapons...

do...

proc...

like saying if primal doesnt proc. Doesnt mean its not good. Logic isnt logicing

Can't rely on offhand proc proccing. So when it doesn't proc, it does not in fact proc. The utility of the gimmick is that you get 8.3 extra DPS over 24 seconds and your 1 PPM isn't going to achieve that sustained over every fight. So even if your proc procs is it procing enough? I like reliable weapons with better ratios.

[Awsten_Tx]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can't rely on offhand proc proccing. So when it doesn't proc, it does not in fact proc. The utility of the gimmick is that you get 8.3 extra DPS over 24 seconds and your 1 PPM isn't going to achieve that sustained over every fight.

testing and data says otherwise :shrug:

[Snaggles]

Dots are easier to upkeep though. It’s a question of if you want to trade roughly 9% ratio for the gamble of picking up about 30% more dps (from that slot) for 24 seconds, and if you will refresh before it fades.

Going back to the rogue example, if a bad one still beats me 3 times to every 1 of my wins…technically they are a better dps option.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by Awsten_Tx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have a pdf of my report and the backup data available if you want it from my AIH testing. you are welcome to review.

I would love to see this as well.

[Awsten_Tx]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would love to see this as well.

Send me your discord, ill send it over

[Kich867]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dots are easier to upkeep though. It’s a question of if you want to trade roughly 9% ratio for the gamble of picking up about 30% more dps (from that slot) for 24 seconds, and if you will refresh before it fades.

Isn't this somewhat easy to nuke out? Bop things, track number of attacks and procs, come to a rough approximate of what your % chance to proc is, boil that down to an average damage per second and add it to your dps?

Whether it refreshes itself isn't really important for simulations, you're just coming up with the DOT's average uptime from the proc based on your proc chance.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Kich867 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Isn't this somewhat easy to nuke out? Bop things, track number of attacks and procs, come to a rough approximate of what your % chance to proc is, boil that down to an average damage per second and add it to your dps?

Whether it refreshes itself isn't really important for simulations, you're just coming up with the DOT's average uptime from the proc based on your proc chance.

Yea, you certainly could. Or, just parse a bunch of similar kills and look at the average kill time of one weapon set from the other. Or better yet, find a consistent npc that always respawns with the same hps and level.

Roughly speaking on a 6,000 hp npc your offhand is doing about 1/3rd the total damage. 1/3rd is 2000 hit points. On ratio alone, a CoL vs a Braid is about 9% (200hps). On that basis if the dot goes one full cycle in roughly the 100 seconds (presuming 100dps), they tie. If whip doesn’t proc until just past 70 seconds (30% health) the claw wins.

At least that’s how it makes sense in my head. I’m not great at math so would rather get a whip and just do what I did here since it’s fairly controlled.

[Naethyn]

Silver Swiftblade and upgrade into Meljeldin, Bane of Giants.

[Awsten_Tx]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Silver Swiftblade and upgrade into Meljeldin, Bane of Giants.

ive said many times, if you want a budget dps setup, and dont plan to trick out your ranger, Yeli gloves into Bane of Giants is a solid play for sure.

The other fantastic budget setup is Kriezenn's flame paired with Swiftwind.

My problem with bane of giants, its not a great stat/resist stick AND it loses out of the utility of 1 hand procs, which for rangers is just huge....