Questions about starting a casual warrior.

[sammoHung]

Guess I'm really just biased because I only really play pulling classes on raids, but yeah Kael faction on Kael raids is tits

[spoil]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I recently learned that offhand hate generation seems bugged and uses the damage bonus in the hate calc even if it doesn't benefit from it in terms of damage. Hate calc is weap dmg + dmg bonus on every swing. Meaning SDC + Frostbringer would be better damage but FB + SDC would do more hate on paper due to proc weap in main hand.

Is this legit? So Sebilite Croaking Dirk main hand + Frostbringer secondary would be the best - budget - aggro weapon combo?

I'm making a warrior and this is basically what I have so far:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_...oposed_warrior

I have a spade I could borrow from my pally as well. Not sure what other 1 handers or upgrades I need, not looking to spend too much more but open to suggestions. Not planning on doing much solo 40+, so truncheon is a low priority. I've also got the cobalt boots and looking for the vambraces. I'm a small race and not going for the bracer.

[Naethyn]

The best budget is the best haste item you can afford.

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by spoil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is this legit? So Sebilite Croaking Dirk main hand + Frostbringer secondary would be the best - budget - aggro weapon combo?

I'm making a warrior and this is basically what I have so far:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_...oposed_warrior

I have a spade I could borrow from my pally as well. Not sure what other 1 handers or upgrades I need, not looking to spend too much more but open to suggestions. Not planning on doing much solo 40+, so truncheon is a low priority. I've also got the cobalt boots and looking for the vambraces. I'm a small race and not going for the bracer.

In this thread I was going back and forth with samoth, he was basically saying slower weaps are better for rogue offhand due to less aggro and I was argueing that if ratio was identical the hate generated would be the same and dogz said it is bugged. I never tested but it rang a bell, I could swear I read that somewhere else too but who knows. Like, maybe dont take it for gospel but keep it in mind. The implications of this for hate generation would be it doesnt matter which weap is in which hand but best proc should definitely be in MH due to OH having half the proc rate.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...=446099&page=6

For the gear part I'm almost done building my warrior and a lot of it is the same you picked.

I didn't go all out budget wise but still wanted decent stuff.

Went for peerless legs (4.5k vs 15k for matchless). Cobalt bp is a nice stats salad. Went with crystal chitin gauntlets because I had them. Probably on par with yours, didn't have the 15k to drop on blood runed. Face the eyepatch is real nice, I have crystal spider/tribal war mask and planned on getting gangrenous eventually but the eyepatch is real nice. I have chokidai spauldors for shoulders and also hardened bone spauldors, barbed are nice too I considered them. I have matchless on my cleric I could swap too but I feel cleric gets the most out of them right now.

I have a chanter that mostly lives in chardok so for ears I went HGLs. Not a big fan of HGLs in general but wars have so much AC on gear that it doesn't matter until 50s and even then. Went sarnak war bow for range because bows as range is convenient.

For weaps I have the usual suspects. I got an ornate rune blade (19/30) for the early 2hs skill ups, I'll swap for reaver later. No such option for 2hb so staff of battle. Shovel probably the most convenient tank weap. I always found ogres with the exquisite brawl stick was very on brand but didn't have the 12k. And yeah, croaking dirk/GCM/Venomous for 1h for now. Tried to get a lightningcaller for offhand to fit with a frostbringer later but that thing is rare as shit. Best budget picks are probably SCD/CBOL until you can afford SBOZ and exq hammer/BOC but by then you probably got access to better raid stuff.

I probably made questionable decisions, this is the best I came up with but I'm not a warrior expert by any stretch of the imagination.

[Crede]

You’re over thinking it bud. Reaver at 20 with the best haste you can afford.

[Dollyartasia772]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Couple noob war related questions. I tried reading a lot on the topic but I can't find anything decisive on most questions. I got a fair bit of melee knowledge but warrior specifics are a blind spot.

I'd like to group as much as I can but I'll probably solo some too due to schedule. No real raiding in the cards for now but not impossible eventually. I'm spending about 60k on him so decent gear but nothing crazy. No access to raid rots for now.

Race: I know ogre is min/max due to stats and FSI but god they're FUGLY with velious plate. Looks like they're wearing a trashbag with a kid's drawing stapled on their belly. I find troll looks a bit cooler and the regen is very appealing for the QOL factor but probably not all that amazing post 60 compared to FSI that keeps on giving. I kinda like the underdogs though but ogre still also feels too good to pass up.

Starting stats: everyone always says sta for most melee classes and it makes sense for warriors but since aggro for war seems proc dependent and most race have shit starting dex wouldn't dex be the move? Especially for ogres since they have an easier time capping sta? With tunnel gear there doesn't seem to be a lot of good dex options as opposed to sta/str and even with FOS you're a long way off. My understanding is no white damage weapon can beat anything with a 400hate proc and non-raid warriors seem to struggle with aggro so more dex seem like a good move if it doesn't come at great cost. On the other hand procs kinda seem gimmicky for grouping. You can always readjust weapons but you can't change starting stats though.

Speaking of capping, what's the stats priority in a non-raid/leveling situation? 205sta to cap with shaman buff with as much HP/AC you can find and bonus points for gear with decent dex? Not sure what's the best play here for a leveling warrior. Early on I guess all the +hp is king then around 40-50 you try to cap sta?

Thanks.

Hey, you've obviously given this a lot of thought! Trolls are actually rather pleasant for casual levels; the additional regen makes things easier, and they actually look nicer on plates than ogres, lol. To extend your lifespan, I would still place the majority of your stat points in "STA" at the beginning. If you start to see aggro issues, you can then add some "DEX". Although STR is helpful, it is far more crucial to stay alive in the early stages. Procs are nice, but they're not a huge deal at lower levels or with standard equipment, so don't worry too much about them when playing alone or in small groups. Basically, you'll succeed if you troll and get a lot of STA. You can also pick up STR and DEX from items along the way.

[sammoHung]

Originally Posted by spoil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is this legit? So Sebilite Croaking Dirk main hand + Frostbringer secondary would be the best - budget - aggro weapon combo?

Yes. I had a Reaver and also a Seb Croaking Dirk / Frostbringer on my warrior. Seb Dirk + Frostbringer not only did comparable DPS to the Reaver at 50, but also generated much much more threat.

[kiradess]

Originally Posted by Dollyartasia772 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey, you've obviously given this a lot of thought! Trolls are actually rather pleasant for casual levels; the additional regen makes things easier, and they actually look nicer on plates than ogres, lol. To extend your lifespan, I would still place the majority of your stat points in "STA" at the beginning. If you start to see aggro issues, you can then add some "DEX". Although STR is helpful, it is far more crucial to stay alive in the early stages. Procs are nice, but they're not a huge deal at lower levels or with standard equipment, so don't worry too much about them when playing alone or in small groups. Basically, you'll succeed if you troll and get a lot of STA. You can also pick up STR and DEX from items along the way.

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[kjs86z2]

If you can find a way to loot a Dain axe, thats the only weapon you need.

Not really a reaver fan myself. I know its good but as soon as you want to go somewhere with a group and you can't use it....not fun.

Spade 4tw if no dain.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by kjs86z2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you can find a way to loot a Dain axe, thats the only weapon you need.

Not really a reaver fan myself. I know its good but as soon as you want to go somewhere with a group and you can't use it....not fun.

Spade 4tw if no dain.

I concur. Loved the axe on my war. I’d imagine it nearly rots on raids nowadays. Paired it with haste eyepatch too was fun. Stats are pretty insane too for a twink.