Can capitalism exist without govt

[tmoneynegro]

Originally Posted by Feachie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

only government can keep the little guy from being fucked.

Govt is the one responsible for all the wealth being vacuumed to the top 1%. They're the ones that enact laws to allow people to enter the commodities market and trade metals at 14:1 margin for example. When you leverage up like that, your net worth becomes exponential to people who aren't leveraging.

Originally Posted by Feachie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

imho capitalism and it's core ideals are generally about "me me me," but there's 7 billion of us on this planet and rising, we need to stop thinking that way or else we're all in deep shit.

"Road to hell is paved with good intentions". Ask any woman a question on economics, 99% of the time the answer will be something marxist/socialist because they think it's more "ethical".

[Feachie]

i'd like to change the question slightly;

can democracy exist without capitalism?

discuss.

[Kika Maslyaka]

Originally Posted by Feachie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i'd like to change the question slightly;

can democracy exist without capitalism?

discuss.

base communism principles are based on democracy - rule of the people and all...
Of course in reality it never happened (yet), but theoretically, sure.

[tmoneynegro]

Originally Posted by Feachie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

can democracy exist without capitalism?

No, non-capitalistic economies requires authoritarian/totalitarian governments with centralized power over everything to operate. If power is centralized and the government is telling you how to live, your votes are obviously meaningless and democracy is impossible since you can't change anything with your vote. Obviously a republic has a similar downfall, the elected representative has to actually operate on the platform he runs on for your vote to matter.

[Kika Maslyaka]

Originally Posted by tmoneynegro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, non-capitalistic economies requires authoritarian/totalitarian governments with centralized power over everything to operate. If power is centralized and the government is telling you how to live, your votes are obviously meaningless and democracy is impossible since you can't change anything with your vote. Obviously a republic has a similar downfall, the elected representative has to actually operate on the platform he runs on for your vote to matter.

no this incorrect.
The market system is not in anyway connected to a specific system of government.
Yes, under communism, the state/government controls the economy, industry, market etc. However, this government can still be democratically elected.
Just because the state owns everything, doesn't make the system automatically authoritarian.
Even under capitalist democracy, not every individual gets to do what he likes, but only what is acceptable by MAJORITY. And if you go against that majority, you are perceived as a criminal.
Communism democracy runs on the same principle.