Mayong Mistmoore

[Wenai]

I am also observing every raid that I can to ensure that we are there to debunk any "I bet they hax0red their way through this omg!!!" or in the event that it is an exploit employed, I can throw you to the vultures.

[Zarniwooop]

It's a joke if 20 or so people could kill mayong.

I am all for him being in the game.

But, unless he's a proper 32k boss, get rid of him.

[Pyrocat]

Because you fought him in live I assume? And can accurate judge how many people should be able to kill him, without knowing their level or equipment? Or his HP? Or what the fight is like?

[Villide]

Originally Posted by Pyrocat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The GMs for the most part (from what I've seen) have been very patient, very understanding, and very willing to disclose information. That said, I don't blame any GMs if they get upset at reading through one too many accusations and trolls. Imagine yourself in their shoes before getting all riled up. This isn't like live, this isn't a paid service, the guy with the green name is NOT being paid, so you can't just treat them like you'd treat a nameless SOE employee and expect to be given a "sorry sir of course the customer is always right".

Well stated Pyrocat. It's a shame you have to even type this up - it should be obvious to anyone with multiple functioning brain cells.

[Pheer]

Originally Posted by Zarniwooop [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's a joke if 20 or so people could kill mayong.

I am all for him being in the game.

But, unless he's a proper 32k boss, get rid of him.

This. Is. An. Emulator. Server.


Everyone seems to think every raid mob should take 395893869 people and countless hours to kill. Mayong BEFORE being fixed the way he should be was still harder than naggy so I'd say hes definitely a "proper" 32k boss.

[kr0w17]

Dude you're in the top guild on the server, this is just properly recreating the classic EQ experience by having random people hating on you :P

truth

I assume the GM's are fair and decent people. And until I see unfairness firsthand, I'm not going anywhere. All I know is I've petitioned twice which were answered extremely quickly and politely. There still isn't a better game out there.

truth

I've said in other threads, I'm not a professional. I'd be making a whole lot more...This is an open source project...

truth

1) Of course GMs will be around when boss mobs are killed for the first time. There is absolutely nothing improper about this. GMs are there to watch something they put their hard work into finally be experienced by a group of players for the first time. They're there to make sure that Nagafen doesn't explode or crash the zone .etc .etc.

truth

This. Is. An. Emulator. Server.

truth


In an era where, with some small amount of investigation, a person can learn anything he/she might need to know about healing rotations/mob HP & MP/spells AOEs/"safe areas"/tactics etc. I think I'd be more surprised to learn a raiding guild failed to kill an "old world" mob.

Moreover, I would hesitate to think very many guilds on this server will EVER be able to muster too many more than 20 for a raid, given that it is EMU, and learning that these kills are hard but can be achieved by only 3 groups gives me hope that this server will NOT go the way of the "one dominant guild" where everyone who wants to raid has to join one guild that rules the raiding scene.

I would like to ask, though, why not leave Mayong Mistmoore in the game? I think it's flipp'n pimp and want to kill him one day...(it's only been my life-long dream, and since I vowed never to play Live again, this may be my only chance!)

[Reiker]

Originally Posted by Zarniwooop [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's a joke if 20 or so people could kill mayong.

I am all for him being in the game.

But, unless he's a proper 32k boss, get rid of him.

What exactly is a proper 32k boss? Do you realize how quickly 20 people can do 32000 damage? VERY quickly. If everyone is doing 20 dps (very low, pets do more than this), that's 24000 in one minute. Seriously, classic EQ is easy. Nothing to get upset over.

[Goobles]

Originally Posted by Pyrocat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because you fought him in live I assume? And can accurate judge how many people should be able to kill him, without knowing their level or equipment? Or his HP? Or what the fight is like?

I would also like to note that even if there were enough high level people on live, a lot of them were in different guilds since the servers were bigger. Concluding that lots of people had different agendas.

I can't speak for anyone else in IB, however - My main focus is to level up, and get/do all the things that will be gone sooner than later. I enjoy the challenge, and strive to do my best while holding the assumption that my guildmates have the same mentality and similar assumptions/expectations of me.

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let me preface this by saying the underlying tone of favoritism for any guild is being conjured or misinterpreted. A lot of the decisions I make without even knowing the in-game guilds. Let me assure you, GM involvement or decision making that is my own has nothing to do with your guilds.. I don't even get a chance to play a character, much less learn all your abbreviations.

Ok Nil, here's the real issue: You guys put a ton of work into this, year+ in the the making. It's provided record player base turn out, and rocketed from EMU obscurity through Preferred server status directly into Legend. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out you've got something huge on your hands.

We <3 this place as much as you do, and judging from our relentless pages of drivel, probably even more. There are a few things that historically have lent themselves to the destruction of every hot new EMU server:

1. Corrupt GMs
2. Absent GMs
3. GM led raiding guilds
4. Lack of follow through on enforcing policy
5. Deviation from the server M.O.

Pretty much every rant I've ever made in these forums/ooc has been fueled by

1. GMs playing enabler over "den mother" and being involved in suspicious activities they should have nixed in the first place themselves.

2. Anything that is off base from a "Classic Legit Progressive" everquest experience.

3, Slow reaction to exploits/bugs/ZEMs/etc.

4. Boats.

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1. I don't know how you fix this, or if it even needs to be fixed. If you want this server run with a fluffy hammer instead of an iron thumb, that's your decision. If you need some volunteers to give up their characters and actually dedicate themselves to clearing the petition queues and doing the menial tasks instead of witnessing raids and/or playing their own characters instead, let me be the first. Anyone who knows me knows I've spent roughly 98.6% of my time logged in either helping people, ressing, smithing at cost, or doing something I'd rather not be doing. It would not be a stretch for me. I'm sure there are others who'd volunteer likewise that are both fair, firm, and have a generosity of spirit.

It's quite obvious that your underlings have far more desire to play the game instead of be the bad guy / helper bee. It's probably time you let them. No one had a hand in creating this server with the vision "I hope I get to log in every day and spend all my time GMing!" No, we all love and wanted to play the game. That's perfectly natural.

2. It's nigh impossible to use the wayback/allas to recreate everything 100% classic, we just ask that the obvious things get fixed/blocked quickly. Lord knows verant had no qualms shutting down Fearplane with a raiding group of 25 in the zone if Verant thought one of the scareling sound files was slightly off when getting hit by a blunt weapon. Somewhere between that and not reacting for a month while getting screamed at form all directions about SolA.. is the happy medium.. Example: If Mayong is going to stay in game and Drop that silly rogue poker, he also needs some AWESOME loots that drop 90% of the time instead just like any other raid mob, like Warhammers of Divine Grace and Bard-Only 2hand slashers and broken quest items. And I know for a fact you can't argue with that based on the spirit of true classic lol.

3. You might need more ppl dedicated to manning the lifeguard tower and with less *personal* incentive to turn blind eyes, report things slowly, et al. As far as customer service goes, you'll probably just need more people entirely. One thing this server could really use is a GM in place from, say 8pm PST to 8am PST to handle the offpeak issues. Even if he is an insomniac, Rogean could probably use a little help during that time slot. Which is actually a cool thing, because all that really means is this server has performed and grown above and beyond even the highest expectations, and you're undermanned because of it.[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

4. Yeah, no one truly cares about boats. And if they do, they are srsly wasting their energy and letting a great server pass them by.

[Rigget]

As much as I'd hate to lose you Bubbles, I'd love to see you as a GM. /salute