Bards & AE in zones where players XP.

[Danth]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, I don't get why everybody here thinks only 56k modems existed in 1999/2000.

I figure most of the folks who think that were little kids who were still using the internet their parents paid for. Hence they probably didn't know any better. Think about it: All these folks in their early/mid 20's here on P1999 were young children when EQ came out.

That being said, having broadband in 1999 didn't necessarily help. Ping times were usually reduced, but EQ ran at a modem-level data rate and didn't send your client more updates simply because you had a better connection than most. Server-side hardware was primitive by today's standards and zones would often lag out if there were too many people. I noticed a much more drastic difference with broadband in first-person shooters of the era than I did in EQ.

Danth

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I figure most of the folks who think that were little kids who were still using the internet their parents paid for. Hence they probably didn't know any better. Think about it: All these folks in their early/mid 20's here on P1999 were young children when EQ came out.

That being said, having broadband in 1999 didn't necessarily help. Ping times were usually reduced, but EQ ran at a modem-level data rate and didn't send your client more updates simply because you had a better connection than most. Server-side hardware was primitive by today's standards and zones would often lag out if there were too many people. I noticed a much more drastic difference with broadband in first-person shooters of the era than I did in EQ.

Danth

I was in college during EQ...and having an ethernet hook up was a huge and noticeable difference compared to when i would use the 56k modem at home. it didn't so much give a lower ping as it did give you a much more stable and trustworthy connection to the game. of course, server side issues affect everyone regardless of how you connect.

[skipdog]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I figure most of the folks who think that were little kids who were still using the internet their parents paid for. Hence they probably didn't know any better. Think about it: All these folks in their early/mid 20's here on P1999 were young children when EQ came out.

That being said, having broadband in 1999 didn't necessarily help. Ping times were usually reduced, but EQ ran at a modem-level data rate and didn't send your client more updates simply because you had a better connection than most. Server-side hardware was primitive by today's standards and zones would often lag out if there were too many people. I noticed a much more drastic difference with broadband in first-person shooters of the era than I did in EQ.

Danth

Oh I agree completely. You didn't really gain any 'edge' by having broadband in EQ. I was just pointing out how silly it is that everybody screams 56k when the reality, is that most of us were off 56k by that point!

[indiscriminate_hater]

Players like these are manifestations of the "equal share for everyone" mentality which has caused the downfall of modern mmos. Unfairness and imbalance are a large part of what makes classic eq so great. You can either enjoy it for what it is or keep having an unfulfilling gaming experience

[baalzy]

Originally Posted by indiscriminate_hater [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Players like these are manifestations of the "equal share for everyone" mentality which has caused the downfall of modern mmos. Unfairness and imbalance are a large part of what makes classic eq so great. You can either enjoy it for what it is or keep having an unfulfilling gaming experience

Question:

If I do something to screw up your kite and get you killed.

Would you petition?

[indiscriminate_hater]

No. If it was an accident I would let it go. If it was malicious I would probably try to get you back myself

[Fael]

there is nothing you could do to screw up my kite and get me killed.
I would suspect the same is true of any bard worth his salt.


Dolic

[applesauce25r624]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there is nothing you could do to screw up my kite and get me killed.
I would suspect the same is true of any bard worth his salt.


Dolic

damn right

i do the keyboard rhythm tap method, meaning I'm zoomed way far out

i'd see somebody trying to mess with the pack.

I would widen the circle while petitioning

you nooblets can't win. bards are like squirrels. you can't outsmart them. they will always steal your food

[Mandalore93]

Bards really aren't the kind of class you want to make an enemy of. Even in PvE there are just a lot of shit they can do to fuck your day up.

And that might have been the kind of petition that they received...the only times I petitioned people was for kill stealing and even then I was basically told to go to another camp. Stupid wizard outside Paw stealing my kills that fucktard. This on live, mind you.

While I play a bard myself and have kited almost exclusively, I've never had an issue with people for the most part aside from an occasional over pull here and there. Then again I play on off peak times.

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by Mandalore93 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And that might have been the kind of petition that they received...the only times I petitioned people was for kill stealing and even then I was basically told to go to another camp. Stupid wizard outside Paw stealing my kills that fucktard. This on live, mind you.

hmmm...

i used to ks folks on my wizard all the time on live outside paw. what server and what was your name?