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Old 05-06-2025, 09:53 AM
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Default Experience: How it really works, bad info on the Wiki

I was curious how many kills are needed at each level, so I tabulated the formulas on the wiki. Of course I eventually I found the original calculator in the wayback machine, which does include the numbers of kills needed at each level.

So the answer is that each non-hell level below 50 takes around 40-50 kills of even cons, or 50-60 blues, and then between double and 5x that on the way to level 60.

Anyway, more useful to the community is that there is still some seriously outdated and conflicting information about group XP sharing and class/race modifiers.

The "How experience works" section of the wiki is just a verbatim P99 forum post from 2010 with no sources. It stresses the importance of XP totals which would be dramatically different for classes with different XP modifiers- and suggests that groups should avoid inviting hybrid classes like shadowknights. Whether or not it's true, this is obviously a pretty harmful conclusion.

However, it should be removed, because it's not true at all. Class and race penalties have been gone from P99 for ten years. This is even linked on the page and mentioned (though only class penalties). However, all the tables of penalties and the verbatim P99 post remain.

Ironically, there is even a complaint on that very page about bad (unrelated) information influencing players for "nearly a decade".

If someone with time and wiki skills can help bring that page up to date, it could go a long way for helping new players avoid the frustration and discrimination associated with class EXP penalties- which, as it turns out, have been imaginary since 2015.

For the record, we might also want to start addressing whether we should be putting so much faith into ZEM, which Rogean confirmed is not accurate for P99.
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