Myconid Spore King - Monk Solo

[Stryker85]

https://youtu.be/jbJbJ1Ll0Js

The goal was to down him without using any charges. Was a bit unlucky with RNG though, and my 2h toggling could've been a bit better. Lots of room for improvement on this attempt. Got a Fungi at least.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Very nice vid!

[Stryker85]

Thanks, I'll post a follow up vid if/when I down him with no charges used.

[Zuranthium]

Only Paladins and Clerics should be able to use a complete heal item.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Only Paladins and Clerics should be able to use a complete heal item.

Even if they removed reaper you could still pop a few of these bad boys:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Serpent_Blood_Potion

OP almost had the fight without reaper. A few serpent blood pots would have done the same job. Or just more Worts.

It would be fun to see someone get a https://wiki.project1999.com/Potion_of_Serious_Healing off in combat.

[Zuranthium]

Potions are cheat. They deserve to have interruptabe activation times.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Potions are cheat. They deserve to have interruptabe activation times.

These kinds of consumables are generally rare/expensive enough to prevent most players from using them constantly. OP spent like 1.6k or so in a few seconds with those Wort Pots, plus 600 plat for the reaper. Most mobs aren't worth spending 2.2k on per mob. Fungi King makes sense, as Fungi Tunic sells for 35k or so.

I've rarely used my WC Cap/Reaper over the years because it's generally been easier for me to find a res, and a 100pp tip is cheaper than a recharge. The plat also goes to a player rather than a merchant.

Things have changed a bit now that the population is lower. More cleric bots, but less people in general to res you.

[kjs86z2]

These kinds of consumables are generally rare/expensive enough to prevent most players from using them constantly. OP spent like 1.6k or so in a few seconds with those Wort Pots, plus 600 plat for the reaper. Most mobs aren't worth spending 2.2k on per mob. Fungi King makes sense, as Fungi Tunic sells for 35k or so.


yes OP definitely only wanted to do it for the chance at getting a fungi and if it were another mob that didn't drop loot it wouldn't be worth while

(lol)

nice one, Sscalez...somehow more impressive than kelz's

[Samoht]

Hmm. Doesn't appear to be a solo kill. Player had a shaman, cleric, and enchanter out of group buffing them.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

yes OP definitely only wanted to do it for the chance at getting a fungi

I didn't say that. Why put words in my mouth? This is clearly a flex video, and a good one.

I was simply saying that these kinds of consumables aren't that overpowered, because most people aren't going to pay 2.2k per mob. This means these consumables are limited in their scope of use. They would be overpowered if you could just buy a 10 dose potion of Wort for 100pp.

[Stryker85]

Hmm. Doesn't appear to be a solo kill. Player had a shaman, cleric, and enchanter out of group buffing them.

It was a fully solo kill, I had just gotten buffed by a group from under NG. I also keep my own sham / cleric / chanter parked in tube room, and have a friend log them in to buff me when a king spawns, but they log right back out and I'm on my own after that.

[Samoht]

It was a fully solo kill, I had just gotten buffed by a group from under NG. I also keep my own sham / cleric / chanter parked in tube room, and have a friend log them in to buff me when a king spawns, but they log right back out and I'm on my own after that.

No, you clearly have aego, focus, and VoG in the video.

100% not solo.

[Stryker85]

Mmm'kay dude, whatever you say. :rolleyes:

[Samoht]

Pretty sure you couldn't do this without the outside help

[Solist]

Of course he could, you just click more pots. Pots are cheap. Plat is worthless anyway.

Adding buffs just means you use a few less clicks. I've probably solo'd fungi king 3 or 4 times on my monk when partners have been LD, killed their toon or killed my cleric they were using.

Doing so right now the hardest thing about fungi king solo is the RNG of the pull, as you can see in the vid. You can chew up 3-4minutes very easily with poor RNG on blurs, pathers etc.

Good work man.

[Stryker85]

Pretty sure you couldn't do this without the outside help

Pretty positive it's not even remotely possible without buffs, so I don't really know what point it is that you're trying to make. Way to shit on other people's accomplishments though. Sorry this wasn't good enough for your standards.

[Solist]

Pretty positive it's not even remotely possible without buffs, so I don't really know what point it is that you're trying to make. Way to shit on other people's accomplishments though. Sorry this wasn't good enough for your standards.

Sure it is. Click more pots. Throw dps and clickies at anything and if you have the bagspace for the mob to die, it will die. To post it like 8 years after it was first solo'd on a monk is a bit weird as im sure after kelz a fair few have probably solo'd it for the lulz. But it's great to see people doing it anyway.

I hope you maybe turn it into a bit of a solo adventure for more cool shit.

Fairly sure vazdeline solo'd a fungi king 'questionably legitimately' back in like 2012 even on his mage excluding the pull when I went LD at the start of a duo fight, (so..."solo") with a couple of soulfire clicks on his epic pet. We'd pull it to under NG back in those days with a crit pac/invis pull into a mage pet and donals bp click it to death. Zero effort, zero danger, 120k fungi's ftw.

[Stryker85]

Sure it is. Click more pots. Throw dps and clickies at anything and if you have the bagspace for the mob to die, it will die. To post it like 8 years after it was first solo'd on a monk is a bit weird as im sure after kelz a fair few have probably solo'd it for the lulz. But it's great to see people doing it anyway.

I hope you maybe turn it into a bit of a solo adventure for more cool shit.


Oh ya, I'm definitely well aware that Kelzaraz did this years ago already, but his strat is no longer viable. Kelz used puppet strings to charm a pet-kitted krup knight. He also used Slowstone Amber before the clicky nerf when it was still instant cast time, and landed a lucky slow (hard to do without malo).

I am trying to set my attempts apart by using a more streamlined approach for the pull and setup, with the goal of making it sustainable indefinitely by not using any consumable charges like Wort Pots, Reapers, Slowstone, etc. Obviously I'm not quite there yet, but I still have quite a bit of room for improvement on the attempts that I've made thus far.

https://youtu.be/2z7V4OdJk9I?si=XBt6dTEU3cn7iQmm

Here's a video of my 2nd attempt where I was able to down him with only 7 wort charges used, and no reaper. Probably could have lived with just 5 worts too. No charge kill coming soon!

[WarpathEQ]

It was a fully solo kill, I had just gotten buffed by a group from under NG. I also keep my own sham / cleric / chanter parked in tube room, and have a friend log them in to buff me when a king spawns, but they log right back out and I'm on my own after that.

I think the point was that its not a solo kill if it requires the leveling and parking and logging in of 4 different classes to achieve the outcome. Would be more impressive if it was truly the toon using nothing but their own means to accomplish something. Even if it was just 1 toon on the encounter log, otherwise we're basically saying that Vindi is soloable.

[loramin]

Potions are cheat. They deserve to have interruptabe activation times.

People on P99 have been doing the Solo Artist Challenge (https://wiki.project1999.com/Solo_Artist_Challenge) for years here, and have long debated the merits of soloing with or without clickies. So, they came up with ranks:

[S] -> Soloed with self buffs only

[S-] -> Soloed but used strong item clickies

[S*] -> Soloed without pull (or invis pulled)

[S*-] -> Soloed without pull and used strong item clickies

[D] -> Duoed

[D-] -> Duoed but used strong item clickies

[D*] -> Duoed without pull (or invis pulled)

[D*-] -> Duoed without pull and used strong item clickies

[T] -> Trioed

However, that only counts "strong item clickies":

Strong item clickies include Puppet Strings, Donal's Chestplate of Mourning, Manastone, SoulFire, Reaper of the Dead, Wooly Spider Silk Net, etc., but not shaman potions or stuff like a Shrunken Goblin Skull Earring. Use your judgement, and remember: solo is solo for the purposes of ranks, no matter what you items you use.

In other words, over a decade of soloers here have all agreed that the use of Shaman potions or a Shrunken Goblin Skull Earring is not only viable for soloing, but in fact it's still the lowest/hardest level of soloing.

[loramin]

P.S. It's a wiki, so if anyone wants to solo a bunch of hard mobs with no clickies whatsoever, and edit that page to establish a new rank ... go for it!

[Stryker85]

I think the point was that its not a solo kill if it requires the leveling and parking and logging in of 4 different classes to achieve the outcome. Would be more impressive if it was truly the toon using nothing but their own means to accomplish something. Even if it was just 1 toon on the encounter log, otherwise we're basically saying that Vindi is soloable.

Technically I did not kill him when I was buffed by my own toons. I was buffed by a group at NG camp, you can still see my tells to their enchanter in the chat window. My toons are parked for when I can't get buffs from others already in the zone. Regardless, it's pretty absurd to expect something like this to be done with only self buffs, it's never even been done fully buffed before (without charges), but somehow that's not good enough for you?

https://wiki.project1999.com/Solo_Artist_Challenge#.22Clickies.22

Perhaps you should take a took at the Solo Artist Challenge Rules. It clearly says in the Clickies section towards the end: "Outside buffs are not permitted for casters; melee can get as many buffs as they like as they are already at a considerable disadvantage."

Anyways, again, sorry if this isn't good enough for yall's standards. Looking forward to seeing your attempts next.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Technically I did not kill him when I was buffed by my own toons. I was buffed by a group at NG camp, you can still see my tells to their enchanter in the chat window. My toons are parked for when I can't get buffs from others already in the zone. Regardless, it's pretty absurd to expect something like this to be done with only self buffs, it's never even been done fully buffed before (without charges), but somehow that's not good enough for you?

https://wiki.project1999.com/Solo_Artist_Challenge#.22Clickies.22

Perhaps you should take a took at the Solo Artist Challenge Rules. It clearly says in the Clickies section towards the end: "Outside buffs are not permitted for casters; melee can get as many buffs as they like as they are already at a considerable disadvantage."

Anyways, again, sorry if this isn't good enough for yall's standards. Looking forward to seeing your attempts next.

You did a good job. There are some posters on these forums who are generally negative, and very hard to please. I enjoyed the videos! Don't let the negative nancies get you down.

[Stryker85]

Thanks man, I appreciate that. And yeah... I'm starting to remember why I stopped coming here lol.

[Jimjam]

Yeah, you did a cool thing. Thanks for sharing.

Often when people lash out, it is out of defence. Perhaps their fragile egos couldn't take you doing and sharing this while they didn't ;).

[Swish]

I can hope to be that good with a monk someday. Thanks for sharing.

[Samoht]

Technically I did not kill him when I was buffed by my own toons. I was buffed by a group at NG camp, you can still see my tells to their enchanter in the chat window. My toons are parked for when I can't get buffs from others already in the zone. Regardless, it's pretty absurd to expect something like this to be done with only self buffs, it's never even been done fully buffed before (without charges), but somehow that's not good enough for you?

https://wiki.project1999.com/Solo_Artist_Challenge#.22Clickies.22

Perhaps you should take a took at the Solo Artist Challenge Rules. It clearly says in the Clickies section towards the end: "Outside buffs are not permitted for casters; melee can get as many buffs as they like as they are already at a considerable disadvantage."

Anyways, again, sorry if this isn't good enough for yall's standards. Looking forward to seeing your attempts next.

That was written pre-Velious. Things definitely change when considering gear from ST and ToV.

[cd288]

My toons are parked for when I can't get buffs from others already in the zone.

I'm confused by this statement. Are you saying you box if you need buffs?

[Stryker85]

I'm confused by this statement. Are you saying you box if you need buffs?

No lol, I just said earlier in this thread that I have my toons parked for friends to login when a king spawns if I can't get buffs.

It was a fully solo kill, I had just gotten buffed by a group from under NG. I also keep my own sham / cleric / chanter parked in tube room, and have a friend log them in to buff me when a king spawns, but they log right back out and I'm on my own after that.

I can see how my second comment about that would read that way though, sorry for the confusion. Definitely not boxing lol.

[Stryker85]

That was written pre-Velious. Things definitely change when considering gear from ST and ToV.

Says who? You? You make the rules for other people's challenges now huh? I'm attempting to do something that's never been done before, if that's not good enough for you - Sorry, I don't really care, you can kindly fuck right off.

[Skarne]

Don’t listen to the fools. Awesome accomplishment! Really dope you were rewarded with a fungi for your efforts as well.

[Samoht]

Says who? You? You make the rules for other people's challenges now huh? I'm attempting to do something that's never been done before, if that's not good enough for you - Sorry, I don't really care, you can kindly fuck right off.

You were so eager to take rules from Lorean. That guy got laughed off the server several times. Keeps coming back for more, just like you.

[WarpathEQ]

Technically I did not kill him when I was buffed by my own toons. I was buffed by a group at NG camp, you can still see my tells to their enchanter in the chat window. My toons are parked for when I can't get buffs from others already in the zone. Regardless, it's pretty absurd to expect something like this to be done with only self buffs, it's never even been done fully buffed before (without charges), but somehow that's not good enough for you?

https://wiki.project1999.com/Solo_Artist_Challenge#.22Clickies.22

Perhaps you should take a took at the Solo Artist Challenge Rules. It clearly says in the Clickies section towards the end: "Outside buffs are not permitted for casters; melee can get as many buffs as they like as they are already at a considerable disadvantage."

Anyways, again, sorry if this isn't good enough for yall's standards. Looking forward to seeing your attempts next.

I'm not trying to demerit your accomplishment, this was not a personal attack, I was more so summarizing what other people were posting in the thread before me. I think its cool that you did this, and part of the fun for everyone on the server is setting goals for yourself and achieving them, its what keeps the game alive 26 years later.

My personal viewpoint is that calling something solo that requires multiple players to accomplish is simply mis-labeling.

Was it challenging? Yes
Was it an accomplishment? Yes
Was it possibly the first time done in these conditions on P99? Maybe, although unlikely given the amount of geared monks out there that farm fungis
Was it done solo? Nope

I would define solo as something that could be or was accomplished in a vacuum by one character. I.E. if you logged in your toon and the server population was 1 and there was no boxing. I personally would find it a bigger achievement and be more impressed to do this without any non-self buffs, but using unlimited clickies that are usable by your race/class. That is how I personally would define "solo".

[zati]

I thought it was impressive af, it's not an easy task even with buffs. The 2 pathers and exit shroom is a PITA to keep down with your own dps and pulling the king in such limited amount of time is the real challenge cause you only get like a 1-2min window and if you F'up you start all over again waiting for roamers that could pop on you. I've done king solo on SK and it only worked using the rock abuse(which was nerfed a day later with that stayoff rock npc) self-buffed using like 40+ clicks of worts and a reaper+ivandyr hoop lmao definitely not sustainable! and it dropped a robe which i destroyed cuz it didn't count in my books. Only Monk/Enc can solo king iirc cuz they have enough dps to break roamers or pacify em to get the king at a legit kill spot... Well done OP I'm sure you will get em without any use of charges which would be incredible. Hell even your second attempt using only 7 charges is well worth it.

[Stryker85]

I just completed the challenge. Myconid Spore King dead with zero consumables used, no worts, no reaper, nada.

Video coming soon.

[loramin]

I just completed the challenge. Myconid Spore King dead with zero consumables used, no worts, no reaper, nada.

Video coming soon.

https://www.picgifs.com/reaction-gifs/reaction-gifs/clapping/picgifs-clapping-9581551.gif

[Samoht]

I just completed the challenge. Myconid Spore King dead with zero consumables used, no worts, no reaper, nada.

Video coming soon.

Assuming this is true, imagine now who your biggest cheerleaders were from this thread. The ones stroking your ego, or the ones challenging you to do more.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Assuming this is true, imagine now who your biggest cheerleaders were from this thread. The ones stroking your ego, or the ones challenging you to do more.

Challenging someone to do more is fine. Discouraging people from doing something isn't fine.

People in this thread responding negatively were discouraging, not challenging.
I just completed the challenge. Myconid Spore King dead with zero consumables used, no worts, no reaper, nada.

Video coming soon.

Awesome! Can't wait to see the video.

[Novemix]

Assuming this is true, imagine now who your biggest cheerleaders were from this thread. The ones stroking your ego, or the ones challenging you to do more.

"That's right. It was tough love, don't you get it. It wasn't trying to minimize the accomplishment to narrow the gap between yours and my lack of, not at all!"

I bet you're SUPER fun at parties.

[kebpts]

I am confused about the mindset and goals of the few people downplaying this kill. The man laid out his goals, the restrictions he is putting on himself for achieving the goal, then has posted multiple attempts showing his progress and final success. (Video to come per above)

Then you have Samoht pop in trying to apply their own restrictions on the goal as if their thoughts or opinions on the matter have any value outside of their own head. If you want to define your own challenge, go right ahead. Post your results. Maybe it will also be neat.

Cool kill, cool videos. Glad you are still challenging yourself and finding ways to have fun with this relic of a game.

[Samoht]

I am confused about the mindset and goals of the few people downplaying this kill. The man laid out his goals, the restrictions he is putting on himself for achieving the goal, then has posted multiple attempts showing his progress and final success. (Video to come per above)

Then you have Samoht pop in trying to apply their own restrictions on the goal as if their thoughts or opinions on the matter have any value outside of their own head. If you want to define your own challenge, go right ahead. Post your results. Maybe it will also be neat.

Cool kill, cool videos. Glad you are still challenging yourself and finding ways to have fun with this relic of a game.

So people still want to argue about the difference between solo and having 3 people buffing you out of party? This was settled, but then some moran came in to rehash it all over again.

[Samoht]

Challenging someone to do more is fine. Discouraging people from doing something isn't fine.

People in this thread responding negatively were discouraging, not challenging.

Wish we could discourage you from posting, but you just can't take the hint.

[kebpts]

Thomas Backwards is mad. People disagreeing with his definitions hurts his feelings and he wants people to care.

[Zuranthium]

Getting buffs from other classes doesn't make something a solo, it's true.

But he accomplished the pull and kill with a single active character, and now with no consumables, it's still a good achievement. Also shows relevant skill for a guild application, if such a thing actually mattered anymore.

[Samoht]

Thomas Backwards is mad. People disagreeing with his definitions hurts his feelings and he wants people to care.

Awwww, how sweet. The unintelligible jumbling of letters doesn't have an argument so he's targeting my forum name! It's just so bad that your posts are just like your username. Nonsense.

[Stryker85]

So people still want to argue about the difference between solo and having 3 people buffing you out of party? This was settled, but then some moran came in to rehash it all over again.

The only thing we settled on is you being an idiot. You make it sound like I had 3 people sitting next to me keeping me buffed the whole time. I only have Aego for the PHs most of the time until a king spawns, and the people that buff me are across the zone at another camp, or are friends that use my toons and log out afterwards.

Regardless, even if I did, buffs are allowed for solo challenges like this, especially for melee classes. Do you think it would be more impressive if I did this with just self buffs, but drank 40 Wort pots to kill it? Of course not, and this kind of this isn't even remotely possible without buffs, so why are you even trying to make this argument in the first place? It wreaks of insecurity; you seem to have this need to diminish other people's accomplishments just to make you feel better about yourself. Everyone else sees right through it. It's pretty sad tbh.

[Samoht]

^ that's mad

[kebpts]

So people still want to argue about the difference between solo and having 3 people buffing you out of party? This was settled, but then some moran came in to rehash it all over again.

Moron**

[Samoht]

Moron**

Sigh. Children these days are so uncultured when it comes to knowing their memes.

https://i.imgur.com/xbiqykK.jpeg

[kebpts]

Sigh. Children these are so uncultured when it comes to knowing their memes.

https://i.imgur.com/xbiqykK.jpeg

Children these DAYS**

[Jimjam]

it is also not a solo if it is on a character that wears gear that other people helped you get, or a server which you didn't set up yourself.

[kebpts]

it is also not a solo if it is on a character that wears gear that other people helped you get, or a server which you didn't set up yourself.

Or if you got a port to the fight, instead of walking from your starting city.

[Tewaz]

People on P99 have been doing the Solo Artist Challenge (https://wiki.project1999.com/Solo_Artist_Challenge) for years here, and have long debated the merits of soloing with or without clickies. So, they came up with ranks:



However, that only counts "strong item clickies":



In other words, over a decade of soloers here have all agreed that the use of Shaman potions or a Shrunken Goblin Skull Earring is not only viable for soloing, but in fact it's still the lowest/hardest level of soloing.

And the "strong clickies" being referred to back when SAC was booming were soulfires, reapers, and most importantly, the infamous dirt cheap Puppet Strings charges.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Wish we could discourage you from posting, but you just can't take the hint.

I am sorry you are so fragile that you are unable to accept people have differing views from yourself. Your silly attempts to shut down discussions are just that: silly.

Maybe one day you will actually learn what the purpose of a forum is. It is astounding you still don't understand after all of these years.

[Samoht]

I am sorry you are so fragile that you are unable to accept people have differing views from yourself. Your silly attempts to shut down discussions are just that: silly.

Maybe one day you will actually learn what the purpose of a forum is. It is astounding you still don't understand after all of these years.

And your silly attempts at having a basic grasp of game mechanics are laughable. You must be one of those blow up punching dolls with the clown face painted on the front in real life because no matter how bad somebody proves you wrong, you always pop back up and you keep posting the dumbest things anybody on this forum has ever read.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

And your silly attempts at having a basic grasp of game mechanics are laughable. You must be one of those blow up punching dolls with the clown face painted on the front in real life because no matter how bad somebody proves you wrong, you always pop back up and you keep posting the dumbest things anybody on this forum has ever read.

I made a DPS calculator that is accurate to real P99 parses across multiple classes, levels, and weapon sets.

You can pretend to know everything if you wish. It just makes you look silly. I can admit when I am wrong, and I admit I don't know everything.

Sorry you are so childish that you think you know everything, and think attacking people for not knowing something is a productive use of these forums.

[kebpts]

Unfortunately, he is getting exactly what he wants.

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[Samoht]

I made a DPS calculator that is accurate to real P99 parses across multiple classes, levels, and weapon sets.

Accurate. Your calculations for offhand swings were completely inaccurate and people had to figure out the flaws for you.

U r bad.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Accurate. Your calculations for offhand swings were completely inaccurate and people had to figure out the flaws for you.

U r bad.

Asking for help on a forum isn't a bad thing. You clearly still don't understand how forums and human communication works. I posted the calculator specifically to see if someone found any mistakes.

You do realize that the P99 parses I used to test the calculator were not using offhand weapons that were faster than the primary weapon?

This shows the calculator was accurate in all instances except that specific scenario, which has now been fixed.

You have no evidence to suggest there are any further flaws in the calculator. You just assume it due to your childish behavior. It is really sad.

[Samoht]

So you made it bad. Other people made it better. Gotcha.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

So you made it bad. Other people made it better. Gotcha.

I'd love to see your DPS calculator, so you can show us how it's done!

You have no proof that you understand melee DPS better than I do.

But please, keep insulting people, spamming threads, and insisting you know everything. I am sure people will respect you then (this is sarcasm)!

[Samoht]

See, that's the difference between me and you. I've made no claim that I did. You're presenting yourself now as the authority on how to calculate DPS when your own understanding is proven to be flawed. Just like OP not knowing what the word solo means.

I'm just here to help. I'm not trying to be the premier source of information, mostly because I'd have to argue with idiots like you who continue to insist that you're right after someone so easily has proven you wrong.

I don't need that kind of ego stroking from strangers on the internet to sustain me.

But you, just like OP, attack me when I refuse to stroke your ego when you so obviously got it wrong.

I don't pretend to know everything, but I know how to look a word up.

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so·lo
/ˈsōˌlō/
adjective
adjective: solo

done by one person alone; unaccompanied.
"he released his second solo album"
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Similar:
unaccompanied

single-handed
companionless
unescorted
unattended
unchaperoned
independent
lonely
solitary
alone
all alone
on one's own
by oneself/itself
without companions
in a solitary state
single
sole
single-handedly
unaided
by one's own efforts
independently
under one's own steam
h
Opposite:
accompanied
in company

with help

adverb
adverb: solo

for or by one person alone.
"she'd spent most of her life flying solo"

[kebpts]

By god, I like this hill and I am going to die on it!


"I am just here to help" ... classic.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

See, that's the difference between me and you. I've made no claim that I did.

This is incorrect. You are making a claim that you know more than me. Remember this post?

And your silly attempts at having a basic grasp of game mechanics are laughable. You must be one of those blow up punching dolls with the clown face painted on the front in real life because no matter how bad somebody proves you wrong, you always pop back up and you keep posting the dumbest things anybody on this forum has ever read.

You are claiming I lack a basic understanding of the game mechanics. If you want to make this claim, you are also implicitly claiming you understand the game mechanics better than I do.

Otherwise this attack against me is meaningless. If you are a person who knows little to nothing about P99, you wouldn't be able to make claims about someone else's knowledge one way or the other.

Going back to the topic:

So people still want to argue about the difference between solo and having 3 people buffing you out of party? This was settled, but then some moran came in to rehash it all over again.

You are also making an implicit claim here that you know more about solo challenge rules than everybody else. Hence you claim it is settled, and doesn't need to be rehashed.

[rhold]

That was badass Sscalez. Can't wait to see the new one.

[kebpts]

He Solo'ed like Han Solo. Webster's doesn't work for proper nouns.

[shovelquest]

s3n8T8ipBAs

[Solist]

Another thread. Another DSM fucking it up.

[Samoht]

He Solo'ed like Han Solo. Webster's doesn't work for proper nouns.

Sorry you're bad at using dictionaries.

[shovelquest]

Have no tread thread but DSM is 110% correct here.

[Samoht]

It's much easier for a level 1 to solo mobs with POTG, ROTG, and thorns, amirite?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Another thread. Another DSM fucking it up.

Blaming me for other posters bad behavior (including your own) is just silly. Don't attack me, and I won't defend myself. Samoht is the one spamming the thread with nonsense, and other posters including myself are fighting back.

Have no tread thread but DSM is 110% correct here.

Thanks for the support!

It's much easier for a level 1 to solo mobs with POTG, ROTG, and thorns, amirite?

This is a silly comparison. For someone who keeps implicitly claiming to have a lot of game knowledge, you don't seem to understand how combat works at level 1 vs. level 60. High level thorns at level 60 will not single handedly kill Fungi King. High level thorns will kill mobs single handedly at level 1. These buffs have a different amount of power at low levels vs. high levels.

[Samoht]

Looks like you've missed the point, per usual. Let me spell it out for you: most people would call it PL, not solo. Same theory applies here. OP was raid buffed to kill fungi king. Do you give credits to your shamans, enchanters, and clerics on raids even though they might do 0 dps on a dragon? I sure hope so.

And unfortunately, you lack the wits to "fight back" against anything. You're just fellating yourself in front of everybody. That's pretty gross.

[Samoht]

I wRiTeD a DeRp PeE eSt CaLcUmLaTor

[Zuranthium]

Samoht is correct but I'm not sure why he's being so churlish about it.

Any buff that comes from another player makes something not solo. That's why there are assist stats in competitive games that try to track such things.

With regards to EQ it's relevant to accurately establish what a specific class can actually do solo. Don't create a false expectation that someone can start a character and get it to level 60 and be soloing certain content that in fact requires outside help.

[Stryker85]

I just finished the No Charge Kill video... this place is starting to discourage me from posting it though. This thread has already been derailed by trolls pretty hard. Perhaps I should start a new thread with all 3 videos linked from the start, so people don't have to go sifting through 8 pages of bullshit to find them.

If the trolls could please refrain from expressing your unwanted opinions about this not being "solo enough" for your standards, that would be great. Not holding my breath though. :rolleyes:

[DeathsSilkyMist]

I just finished the No Charge Kill video... this place is starting to discourage me from posting it though. This thread has already been derailed by trolls pretty hard. Perhaps I should start a new thread with all 3 videos linked from the start, so people don't have to go sifting through 8 pages of bullshit to find them.

If the trolls could please refrain from expressing your unwanted opinions about this not being "solo enough" for your standards, that would be great. Not holding my breath though. :rolleyes:

It is unfortunate that there are posters on these forums who just randomly insert themselves into threads to attack other people, and then blame the people they are attacking.

I've tried to call people out for this on multple occasions, but very few people join me in calling them out. So the cycle continues. Thanks for speaking up, and sorry about your thread.

I look forward to the video in either thread!

[kjs86z2]

I just finished the No Charge Kill video... this place is starting to discourage me from posting it though.

do it

[loramin]

It is unfortunate that there are posters on these forums who just randomly insert themselves into threads to attack other people, and then blame the people they are attacking.


https://media.tenor.com/YIWrDbpR1-AAAAAM/pot-kettle.gif

[DeathsSilkyMist]

https://media.tenor.com/YIWrDbpR1-AAAAAM/pot-kettle.gif

Loramin still doesn't understand the difference between posters attacking other posters, and posters defending themselves from attack. OP and myself are defending ourselves from nonsense. Posters like yourself now and Samoht are attacking posters. There would be zero defense posts in this thread if there were zero attack posts. Please stop being a silly person.

Loramin is a wiki admin, but hasn't read the forum rules. He clearly supports posters attacking other posters (including himself), but he doesn't support posters defending themselves. Attacking other posters is a violation of the forum rules.

I'll repost the rules for him again. Maybe Loramin will read them finally:


Rants and Flames
Any rant or flame against a player or guild should be contained inside of the Rants and Flames forum of the respective Blue or Red server forums. Do not bash a guild or a player outside of Rants and Flames.

Off Topic
Any content not related to Project 1999 should be posted in the “Off Topic” section of the forums. All other forum rules still apply

Trolling
If you must troll another user, keep it contained to Rants and Flames. Don’t over do it.

Forum accounts created for the sole purpose of trolling are not allowed.

We encourage you to list your in-game characters in your signature so other forum users may know who your characters are in game. Its no fun reading posts from AnonymousForumTroll01 without knowing who they are in game, and this does not foster community growth.

[Samoht]

You're not defending yourself, tho. You have no skin in this game. You came here just to defame others.

Just because you're playing the victim does not make you one.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

You're not defending yourself, tho. You have no skin in this game. You came here just to defame others.

Just because you're playing the victim does not make you one.

People can read the thread. Why make up such an obvious lie?

I came here to support OP:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3743207&postcount=2

Very nice vid!

You attacked me first:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3744292&postcount=42

Wish we could discourage you from posting, but you just can't take the hint.

If you didn't attack me, I wouldn't be defending myself.

You attacked Loramin too:

You were so eager to take rules from Lorean. That guy got laughed off the server several times. Keeps coming back for more, just like you.

Clearly you are the one here to defame others.

[Samoht]

You attacked me first:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3744292&postcount=42

You just quoted yourself attacking me... The derp is strong.

We'll just have to agree to disagree.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

You just quoted yourself attacking me... The derp is strong.

We'll just have to agree to disagree.

That wasn't an attack on you. I simply disagreed with your approach to "cheerlead" OP. I am suprised you don't understand the difference between a disagreement and an attack.

You actually attacked me.

Wish we could discourage you from posting, but you just can't take the hint.

Your opinion that I shouldn't be posting at all is irrelevant to the thread. It is simply an attack on me.

[Samoht]

You just quoted the quote where you threw the first swing. You're not a victim. You're just an idiot.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

You just quoted the quote where you threw the first swing. You're not a victim. You're just an idiot.

No. You clearly cannot distinguish between a disagreement and an attack. I am sorry you cannot take people having a different opinion from yourself. Next time don't attack someone just because they disagree with you.

This is a character attack that has nothing to do with the thread:

Wish we could discourage you from posting, but you just can't take the hint.

This is a disagreement with your "cheerleading" approach directly related to the posts in this thread:

Challenging someone to do more is fine. Discouraging people from doing something isn't fine.

People in this thread responding negatively were discouraging, not challenging.

[kjs86z2]

lmao

[Pint]

Always cool, gratz on the multiple good kills

[Zuranthium]

I just finished the No Charge Kill video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONdIYAofyQ

It's crazy how long ensnare lasts in this game.

[WarpathEQ]

Regardless, even if I did, buffs are allowed for solo challenges like this, especially for melee classes. Do you think it would be more impressive if I did this with just self buffs, but drank 40 Wort pots to kill it?

Yes 100%, would be much more impressed/interested in this.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Yes 100%, would be much more impressed/interested in this.

It's not really any different, unless you can show a point in any of his videos where the extra HP from outside buffs was necessary to survive. Like if you saw a point where OP took 3.5k damage in a very short period of time. Otherwise you're just asking OP to spend more money on pots.

[shovelquest]

I went through the thread, and DSM has had nothing but nice things to say.

Hope this helps.

Very nice vid!

Even if they removed reaper you could still pop a few of these bad boys:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Serpent_Blood_Potion

OP almost had the fight without reaper. A few serpent blood pots would have done the same job. Or just more Worts.

It would be fun to see someone get a https://wiki.project1999.com/Potion_of_Serious_Healing off in combat.

You did a good job. There are some posters on these forums who are generally negative, and very hard to please. I enjoyed the videos! Don't let the negative nancies get you down.

Verdict: DSM = great guy.

Case closed.

[Zuranthium]

Otherwise you're just asking OP to spend more money on pots.

All these potions that are craftable only by Shaman should inherently disbar something from being considered a true solo.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

All these potions that are craftable only by Shaman should inherently disbar something from being considered a true solo.

I disagree personally. Different solo challenge tiers exist for a reason. OP's kill is impressive. You could also still use this potion if you want to remove reapers, soulfire, and shaman craftable pots:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Serpent_Blood_Potion

[Zuranthium]

Serpent Blood Potion has an inventory limit, and would require immense time expenditure to solo camp a bunch of them.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Serpent Blood Potion has an inventory limit, and would require immense time expenditure to solo camp a bunch of them.

You can corpse pots, so inventory space isn't a big deal in this scenario. You just need some 10 slot toolboxes with pots in them on the corpse. Pick up a full toolbox off your corpse and drop the used empty toolbox on the ground. Based on the videos 50 serpent pots would probably be overkill, and you can carry up to 80 items. So I doubt you would need to corpse the potions anyway.

Asking OP to a camp a potion that does the same thing as a pot you can buy is just asking OP to spend more time for no real reason.

I went through the thread, and DSM has had nothing but nice things to say.

Hope this helps.

Verdict: DSM = great guy.

Case closed.

Thank you for the support!

[Confit]

Very cool Sscalez! Geared out monks are just insane.

Any reason you didn't use Regal Band/DS pots?

[Zuranthium]

Asking OP to a camp a potion that does the same thing as a pot you can buy is just asking OP to spend more time for no real reason.

The reason is doing an actual solo achievement. Using only what is within the means of 1 specific profession's abilities. Shaman potions are a Shaman class ability.

There is no real point in these other forms of "soloing" that in fact were using multiple players to execute. If someone requires another player to log on an alt and buff them for a "solo" fight, then that other player could just participate in the actual fight. Nothing relevant is gained by only fighting with the 1 character instead; you're just "spending more time for no real reason."

[DeathsSilkyMist]

The reason is doing an actual solo achievement. Using only what is within the means of 1 specific profession's abilities. Shaman potions are a Shaman class ability.

There is no real point in these other forms of "soloing" that in fact were using multiple players to execute. If someone requires another player to log on an alt and buff them for a "solo" fight, then that other player could just participate in the actual fight. Nothing relevant is gained by only fighting with the 1 character instead; you're just "spending more time for no real reason."

You wouldn't be able to prove that OP bought the Serpent Blood Potions vs. camped them, so it's a moot point. The mob that drops the Serpent Blood Potion is low level. OP can easily camp the Serpent Blood Potion as is. There is no question that OP could acquire as many Serpent Blood Potions as they need.

OP did a great job. Splitting hairs won't change this.

[shovelquest]

Think about it like this. Castle leveled from 1 to 50 in like 10 minuets.

Worth splitting hairs about?

IIRC the solo artist challenge (which if it is not still in use, should be) has a w/ rechargeable clickies and without astrix next to the kill.

Not any less impressive to me, just informative.

[Stryker85]

Very cool Sscalez! Geared out monks are just insane.

Any reason you didn't use Regal Band/DS pots?

Thanks man, I did use the Chardok ring on my 2nd and 3rd attempts, including the no charge kill. I didn't want use any DS pots or any other potions like that though because the whole goal was to do it without using any consumables, which I was finally able to accomplish a few days ago. I wasn't going to post it here after seeing all the haters and trolls take over this thread, but it looks like someone else posted it already anyways. :rolleyes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONdIYAofyQ - No Charge Kill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z7V4OdJk9I&t=15s - 2nd Attempt (7 worts clicks, no reaper).

[WarpathEQ]

Serpent Blood Potion has an inventory limit, and would require immense time expenditure to solo camp a bunch of them.

sounds like a.....challenge.

[Stryker85]

sounds like a.....challenge.

Yeah have fun with that, looking forward to seeing any of you hater's attempts next.

[Zuranthium]

sounds like a.....challenge.

A boring and pointless challenge.

Trying to use a bunch of consumables would never be a viable strat in a more refined version of EQ anyway. Using a potion should always have significant activation time and be interruptable. You know, how it actually works in a tangible world, needing to take time to drink something and finding it hard to do that in combat.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Yeah have fun with that, looking forward to seeing any of you hater's attempts next.

This is correct. The posters who are typically negative never post their own videos showing us how it's done. They are all talk and no show.

You are a player of action, not talk. I hope you post your next video when you do it! Don't let the negative nancies get you down. I'm looking forward to it.


Trying to use a bunch of consumables would never be a viable strat in a more refined version of EQ anyway. Using a potion should always have significant activation time and be interruptable. You know, how it actually works in a tangible world, needing to take time to drink something and finding it hard to do that in combat.

Please show us your solo challenge videos with all of your restrictions in place! You never seem to post videos of your own when you make claims about how to play.

Using your "tangible world" logic, a fungus man wouldn't be fooled by FD, so you couldn't pull Fungi King solo anyway. Fungus men don't have eyes, they perceive the world and communicate differently from human-like races. They wouldn't see you fall over. You'd just get killed by adds every time as Fungi King gets help from his friends.

[Zuranthium]

You have a very bad problem with synthesizing things people say.

There are obvious conceits that need to be made in video games, not everything is completely realistic, but things should feel representative, and consumables need to be balanced properly.

Feign Death is another thing that could be implemented better (takes longer to reuse in front of the same NPC's) and it's an example of something that is never going to be entirely realistic, but instead is acting as more of a representation of a character creating a diversion that allowed them to slip into a nearby hiding spot, or playing dead after making it look like they tripped on their blade or cut their own throat. That's also why it should be a Rogue ability, not a Monk ability.

[Stryker85]

I hope you post your next video when you do it! Don't let the negative nancies get you down. I'm looking forward to it.

I was finally able to complete the challenge with no consumables used a few days ago. Check the post at the top of this page for a link to the No Charge Kill video.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

You have a very bad problem with synthesizing things people say.


I disagree with your baseless character attack. You were vague, and thus your words were open to multiple interpretations. Don't blame me for your lack of detail.

Next time expand on what you meant, rather than attack the other poster with baseless claims you have no evidence for.


There are obvious conceits that need to be made in video games, not everything is completely realistic


Correct. In P99, you can use instant cast consumables. Period. This was clearly an intended feature, as many items have inatant cast.

You are simply cherry picking what you think should be "more realistic" to support your position.

The reality is OP and myself have videos of ourselves doing solo challenge content. You don't. Show us some of your solo challenge kills before making arbitrary rules based solely on your opinion of what is "realistic" in a 20 year old MMO with magic and dragons in it.

I was finally able to complete the challenge with no consumables used a few days ago. Check the post at the top of this page for a link to the No Charge Kill video.

That's awesome! I did watch the video when it was posted earlier. It's really good!

[Skarne]

This guy is a legend!!! Most excellent videos! So much work put into that character- It's always so cool to see how powerful our favorite Everquest characters can be. Grats!

[DeathsSilkyMist]

This guy is a legend!!! Most excellent videos! So much work put into that character- It's always so cool to see how powerful our favorite Everquest characters can be. Grats!

Agreed! Keep up the great work Sscalez!

I was finally able to complete the challenge with no consumables used a few days ago. Check the post at the top of this page for a link to the No Charge Kill video.

This was an awesome video!

With regards to the video, I liked your idea to pull, snare, then flop so you could start the fight at full HP + 1 Mend. Also good call to fistweave your Abashi's for a bit more DPS. You needed it!

[Zuranthium]

In P99, you can use instant cast consumables. Period. This was clearly an intended feature, as many items have instant cast.

It was never intended for people to stockpile consumables, and the balance of items on the game was hardly considered at all. It was just different people throwing whatever into the game world to fill out the content and then there were nerfs when certain items were popularized as problematic.

You are simply cherry picking what you think should be "more realistic" to support your position.

Again that lack of reading comprehension. I've said the exact same things for many years, it has nothing to do with this shitty argument you're mucking about with.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

It was never intended for people to stockpile consumables, and the balance of items on the game was hardly considered at all. It was just different people throwing whatever into the game world to fill out the content and then there were nerfs when certain items were popularized as problematic.


Your opinion on developer intentions are irrelevant to this thread. OP did a video without potions anyway if you read the thread. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONdIYAofyQ

It's a great video! Grats again Sscalez!


Again that lack of reading comprehension. I've said the exact same things for many years, it has nothing to do with this shitty argument you're mucking about with.

Please explain in detail how the issue was my reading comprehension, and not your vague description of what you think a "tangible world" is.

[Zuranthium]

Your opinion on developer intentions are irrelevant to this thread.

And unfortunately your opinions are worse than irrelevant too often, as you keep going on and on and wasting space and refusing to listen to points that have been made.

People have some different interpretations on what "solo" can mean, and at its most pure level it inherently means looking only at what a single character can do entirely on their own, which is perhaps the most relevant metric, considering that's reality of a player starting fresh on a server.

Another actual relevant metric would be "what can a character do solo after getting raid gear", as that is the reality of logging onto a server that basically only has activity during raids. Anyone can go join the raid guild of the server and get some handouts over time, but consumables cost money that a player might not have, or certainly might not have a constant stream of to actually go try and farm a certain camp.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

And unfortunately your opinions are worse than irrelevant too often, as you keep going on and on and wasting space and refusing to listen to points that have been made.


As you can see, he can't explain how my reading comprehension was the issue.

Why do you keep lying and posting baseless character attacks? It just makes you look bad, not me. You are just helping me by acting silly.


People have some different interpretations on what "solo" can mean, and at its most pure level it inherently means looking only at what a single character can do entirely on their own, which is perhaps the most relevant metric, considering that's reality of a player starting fresh on a server.


We have a set of rules many people follow already:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Solo_Artist_Challenge

I've done multiple mobs on this list, and I have video evidence. You have no proven experience with the existing solo artist challenge. Start here and show off your skills before making up arbitrary rules.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONdIYAofyQ

OP has his awesome solo artist challenge video. Grats again!

[Zuranthium]

Yeah arbitrary, that's exactly your dialogue. You don't set the definitions of things, nor does that random wiki page. There are people who are interested in being able to solo without consumables, get that through your thick head.

Oh, and BTW:

OP did a video without potions anyway if you read the thread.

Please explain in detail my reading comprehension

I'm the one who linked the video of him doing it, and you're talking about me not reading the thread. Absolute clown.

[shovelquest]

It would be cool to see OP try to solo it without consumables.

[Zuranthium]

It would be cool to see OP try to solo it without consumables.

It would require a lot of luck I think to do with no consumables and no outside buffs. Would need to get instant ensare proc to be able to heal up before the roamer repop.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Yeah arbitrary, that's exactly your dialogue. You don't set the definitions of things, nor does that random wiki page. There are people who are interested in being able to solo without consumables, get that through your thick head.


Using this logic, you don't get to set the definitions either. But you clearly keep insisting your opinions are the correct ones when it comes to consumables.


I'm the one who linked the video of him doing it, and you're talking about me not reading the thread.


I am well aware of this. That was the joke. You still haven't explained where my reading comprehension was poor. You simply proved that you cannot give up your position on consumables, even after you literally post OP doing the fight without consumables.

I am willing to bet more people agree with the solo artist challenge ruleset than your ruleset. If you want to change that, build your own ruleset and set the example by posting videos of yourself completing the challenges!

Here is OP's awesome video again, don't want it to get lost in the noise:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONdIYAofyQ

[shovelquest]

*Scoffs

Yeah but can he do it without consumables? Doubt it.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

*Scoffs

Yeah but can he do it without consumables? Doubt it.

Zuranthium posted the link that answers this very question!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONdIYAofyQ

His only comment was on snare duration, so perhaps he stopped watching before the fight started. That's a shame, as the fight is the best part. Don't be like Zuranthium fellow readers. Watch the whole video!

The more I think about the situation, the worse it gets. Zuranthium posts the video of OP doing the fight without consumables, which is what Zuranthium wanted. But Zuranthium can't even praise OP then. He just makes an offhand comment about snare. Why would anyone want to make content for someone like Zuranthium? He isn't even happy when he gets exactly what he wants.

[Duik]

However we think EQ should be or what you believe were the developers intentions this is/tries to be a representation of what was released and patched over the months/years. It promises no more or less.

Sscalez, well done. If you good enuf to get a boss down to the point that all that is needed is a few pot clicks or a reaper, you've done better than 90% (dunno, just pulled that number outta my arse) of the current pop.

Zuranthium, It is a fantasy game with magic potions and invisible armor clickable from items for goodness sake. Lighten up buddy, you may blow some kind of (IRL) valve.

[Tewaz]

Zuranthium been shitting up these forums with terrible takes for over a decade. Don't feed the troll.

The funny part is he actually thinks there is a perfect MMO out there where most of his vast and well documented needs are fulfilled.

Does he play that game or post on their forums? Probably not. Does he choose to gatekeep Brad's original vision with an energy only matched by some boomer dressed in revolutionary cosplay and white New Balances on the steps of congress in 2009 crying bout "Income tax isn't in the constitution"?

Yes, yes he does.

[Zuranthium]

His only comment was on snare duration, so perhaps he stopped watching before the fight started.

There's something very wrong with your brain. How is commenting on snare lasting so long (aka, for an entire sit-and-heal session plus the entire time it took to kill the king) an indication that someone didn't watch something.

I am willing to bet more people agree with the solo artist challenge ruleset than your ruleset. If you want to change that, build your own ruleset

"My" ruleset is already something the majority of people are doing, as that's the actual reality of playing the game solo for them. Which includes the popular solo self-found ruleset. When the typical player asks "what will I be able to do solo with X class when I start on this server", the relevant answer is what they can do without outside buffs and consumables. And plenty of people already approach the solo artist challenges in that way, you're just ignorant about it.

The funny part is he actually thinks there is a perfect MMO out there where most of his vast and well documented needs are fulfilled.

Clearly there isn't.

Weird shitpost from you, acting like it's strange that people want better game design.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

There's something very wrong with your brain. How is commenting on snare lasting so long (aka, for an entire sit-and-heal session plus the entire time it took to kill the king) an indication that someone didn't watch something.


Baseless character attacks again. You just look silly. You should have congratulated OP for the kill you were asking for, a kill without potions. You also kept talking about consumables after posting the video, when they were no longer relevant to the thread. Your lack of comment on the relevant parts of the video is strange.


"My" ruleset is already something the majority of people are doing, as that's the actual reality of playing the game solo for them. Which includes the popular solo self-found ruleset. When the typical player asks "what will I be able to do solo with X class when I start on this server", the relevant answer is what they can do without outside buffs and consumables. And plenty of people already approach the solo artist challenges in that way, you're just ignorant about it.

You still haven't shown any evidence that you have done any mob on the solo artist challenge list. OP and myself have shown video evidence.

The ignorance is from yourself, as you didn't seem to read the solo challenge artist page:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Solo_Artist_Challenge


The categories, in descending order of awesomeness:

[S] -> Soloed with self buffs only

[S-] -> Soloed but used strong item clickies

[S*] -> Soloed without pull (or invis pulled)

[S*-] -> Soloed without pull and used strong item clickies

[D] -> Duoed

[D-] -> Duoed but used strong item clickies

[D*] -> Duoed without pull (or invis pulled)

[D*-] -> Duoed without pull and used strong item clickies

[T] -> Trioed

"Clickies"
Strong item clickies include Puppet Strings, Donal's Chestplate of Mourning, Manastone, SoulFire, Reaper of the Dead, Wooly Spider Silk Net, etc., but not shaman potions or stuff like a Shrunken Goblin Skull Earring. Use your judgement, and remember: solo is solo for the purposes of ranks, no matter what you items you use. Pull help is meant to compensate for removal of invis pulls; it doesn't seem fair to penalize people who started on the challenge afterwards. Pull help is only available for Solo God/Duo GM ranks and up, mainly because many of those would be obviously impossible otherwise. Use common sense regarding the amount of help you can get from other players and still consider it a solo kill. In general the idea is that you could zone in and kill the mob on your own. Outside buffs are not permitted for casters; melee can get as many buffs as they like as they are already at a considerable disadvantage. Any kill, even the lowly S*-, will count towards a rank.


Your two complaints in this thread were about buffs and consumables, both of which are already covered in the solo artist challenge wiki page.

Please don't use this logic again, as it applies to yourself as well. There are people who disagree with your opinions on consumables.

Yeah arbitrary, that's exactly your dialogue. You don't set the definitions of things, nor does that random wiki page. There are people who are interested in being able to solo without consumables, get that through your thick head.

[vales]

please don't turn this into a 40+ page thread like the druid thread

begging all of you to just leave well enough alone and resist replying

[DeathsSilkyMist]

please don't turn this into a 40+ page thread like the druid thread

begging all of you to just leave well enough alone and resist replying

If you want this to stop, yourself and other posters need to be more agressive about calling out people who bloat threads with attacks, trolling, and off topic nonsense. Posters like Zuranthium and Samoht are the cause of this. If they didn't derail the thread, other posters like myself, OP, Shovelquest, etc., wouldn't need to respond to them.

Reposting OP's awesome video so it doesn't get lost:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONdIYAofyQ

[loramin]

The ignorance is from yourself, as you didn't seem to read the solo challenge artist page:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Solo_Artist_Challenge

Keep in mind what it says on the very page you're telling others to read:

The original Solo Artist Challenge was started in this forum thread (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80165) by Loraen

In other words, there's nothing magical or authoritative about the challenge: it was quite literally created by ordinary players, in this very same forum. I think the time they spent discussing it led to something valuable (which is why I made the wiki page) ... but, you also have to remember: that discussion started in 2012. It not only pre-dates Green ... it predates Velious!

If people want to follow the challenge's rules, I think it's awesome, because I created the page to encourage exactly that. But don't forget that the server has changed a lot since: we have multiple "self-found" guilds now, when there wasn't even a coordinated group of "solo self-founders" back in 2012.

If Zura (or anyone else) thinks there's a better solo standard, maybe they're right and maybe they're wrong ... but the existence of a thirteen-year old thread (copied into the wiki) doesn't invalidate their argument.

[Samoht]

In this thread: DSM attacks other people

Also in this thread: DSM complaining about people attacking him

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Keep in mind what it says on the very page you're telling others to read:



In other words, there's nothing magical or authoritative about the challenge: it was quite literally created by ordinary players, in this very same forum. I think the time they spent discussing it led to something valuable (which is why I made the wiki page) ... but, you also have to remember: that discussion started in 2012. It not only pre-dates Green ... it predates Velious!

If people want to follow the challenge's rules, I think it's awesome, because I created the page to encourage exactly that. But don't forget that the server has changed a lot since: we have multiple "self-found" guilds now, when there wasn't even a coordinated group of "solo self-founders" back in 2012.

If Zura (or anyone else) thinks there's a better solo standard, maybe they're right and maybe they're wrong ... but the existence of a thirteen-year old thread (copied into the wiki) doesn't invalidate their argument.

I am not sure where you saw me claim the solo artist challenge was "magical".

My point is indeed that the solo artist challenge was created and used by players. Players that disagree with Zuranthium's opinions.

I am countering Zuranthium's insistence that his opinions on consumables are the ones OP needs to follow.

I've told Zuranthium already that he should create his own ruleset and post some awesome videos of him doing his challenges to lead by example. He simply won't do it.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

In this thread: DSM attacks other people

Also in this thread: DSM complaining about people attacking him

You attacked me first, the post history is quite clear. I didn't attack anyone, I just defended myself from attacks. Lying and playing victim just makes you look silly when the evidence is so clear.

[Samoht]

You attacked me first, the post history is quite clear. I didn't attack anyone, I just defended myself from attacks. Lying and playing victim just makes you look silly when the evidence is so clear.

You, sir, are a liar and have already provided evidence to the contrary of your claim.

Also, you should consider not replying to every post. It's not very becoming.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

You, sir, are a liar and have already provided evidence to the contrary of your claim.

Also, you should consider not replying to every post. It's not very becoming.

You haven't explained how my post was an attack. You are simply trying to lie your way out of the fact that you attacked me first.

This is not an attack. It's a disagreement with your "cheerleading" approach directly related to posts in this thread:

Challenging someone to do more is fine. Discouraging people from doing something isn't fine.

People in this thread responding negatively were discouraging, not challenging.


Awesome! Can't wait to see the video.

This is an off-topic character attack. I simply defended myself from your nonsense, and continue to do so:

Wish we could discourage you from posting, but you just can't take the hint.

[Samoht]

Do you ever actually review the quotes you're including with your post or do you just intentionally jumble them up and hope nobody calls you out?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Do you ever actually review the quotes you're including with your post or do you just intentionally jumble them up and hope nobody calls you out?

As you can see, Samoht cannot explain how I attacked him. A disagreement directly related to posts in this thread is not an attack. How can you expect to have a discussion if you think a difference of opinion is an attack?

He just keeps dodging because he knows he attacked me first. He is doing the thing he accuses me of: playing the victim.

[Samoht]

If you click the link he accuses me of attacking him first, you'll see it responds to a post where he attacks several people first.

It's so sad that he's too dumb to click.

Also: I've had to explain this to him TWICE now.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

If you click the link he accuses me of attacking him first, you'll see it responds to a post where he attacks several people first.

It's so sad that he's too dumb to click.

You still can't explain how I attacked anybody. Continuing to dodge just makes you look bad.

Claiming a disagreement is an attack is silly.

You attacked me first:


Wish we could discourage you from posting, but you just can't take the hint.

[Samoht]

See? Too dumb to read. It's right there in the link he posted.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

See? Too dumb to read. It's right there in the link he posted.

Another attack. You can't actually explain how I attacked you, you just keep repeating the same nonsense because you know you are wrong.

If it is so obvious, explain how I attacked you.

[Samoht]

Another attack! Another attack! DSM attacking other people some more and complaining about being attacked some more. ROFL

[shovelquest]

Why do humans, barbarians, and wizards senselessly attack ogres and trolls.

The Dark Elves are right. Freeport is a disease.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Another attack! Another attack! DSM attacking other people some more and complaining about being attacked some more. ROFL

Another dodge. Samoht can't explain how I attacked him. Thank you for conceding that you attacked me first. Next time don't attack posters when they disagree with you. You are just bloating the thread with nonsense.

[Samoht]

Nobody is dodging you. I've told you exactly where to go to see the post. Can you do it? Can you click it?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Nobody is dodging you. I've told you exactly where to go to see the post. Can you do it? Can you click it?

Please post the link, my quote, and how it was an attack instead of a disagreement. Explain it to me.

[Samoht]

I don't think he can click it :(

[loramin]

In this thread:

If you want this to stop, yourself and other posters need to be more agressive about calling out people who bloat threads with attacks, trolling, and off topic nonsense. Posters like Zuranthium and Samoht are the cause of this. If they didn't derail the thread, other posters like myself, OP, Shovelquest, etc., wouldn't need to respond to them.

In the "New Druid Advice" thread:

The posters in this thread attacking me are not here for OP anyway. They don't want to help OP or other people.

...

I clearly live rent-free in Duik's head.

In the DSM thread:

More projection and lies. I don't know why Troxx likes being such an obvious liar. The post history exists for everyone to see.

In the "Why did I die?" thread:

(Replying to Gloomlord) Over 80% of your posts are attacking me, while completely ignoring the topic at hand. I never start this. You are always the one to instigate these back and forths.

(Repling to fortior) Again, you have no evidence to back up these claims, yet you assert it is true. The one with the ego is yourself ... Why do you only target me, while ignoring all the bad behavior in this thread? It is clear you are targeting me specifically, and you aren't being subtle about it.

In the "Iksar Shaman - Solo Challenges?" thread:

(Replying to Tann) Perpetuating lies about other posters is not good behavior.

You are making baseless claims and refusing to admit you are wrong about them in this very post

In the "Moss Covered Twig" thread:

(replying to Soloist) Yikes. None of this is true. The only drivel is this waste of a post. Sorry you are delusional and think that nobody on the forums is allowed to make a mistake. You want to make people afraid to post by claiming any mistake is equal to knowing nothing.

Posters like yourself are the problem with the p99 forums. You try to shut down discussion with these kinds of attacks. The end result is people leaving the forums so they don't have to deal with posters like you.

(replying to WarpathEQ) Many posters on this forum have a big problem with posting off topic nonsense to derail threads. I don't do this. I stick to the topic at hand, and then I am attacked. I have the right to defend myself from obvious lies, as does everybody else.

Sadly nobody calls any other posters out for this, and they put all the blame on me. This is why the problem has been so bad for years.

If you want change, call out Solist for posting nothing but an off-topic lie. Call out any other poster who does the same.

There would be zero posts from me defending myself if I wasn't attacked.

And just to round out an even ten (from that same thread):

Loramin is lying about me, claiming I deserve to be attacked, and is encouraging other people to attack me.

The above ten is just a small sampling: it would take quite awhile to quote every person DSM has ever felt attacked by. But given that sampling, the question becomes: did all those posters just coordinate and decide to "pick on" DSM for no reason ... or does it make more logical sense that the common denominator in all those exchanges was somehow at least partly responsible?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

I don't think he can click it :(

Another dodge. He can repost the link, my quote, and his explaination for how I attacked him at any time.

He won't, because he cant.

[shovelquest]

In this thread:



In the "New Druid Advice" thread:



In the DSM thread:



In the "Why did I die?" thread:





In the "Iksar Shaman - Solo Challenges?" thread:



In the "Moss Covered Twig" thread:





And just to round out an even ten (from that same thread):



The above ten is just a small sampling: it would take quite awhile to quote every person DSM has ever felt attacked by. But given that sampling, the question becomes: did all those posters just coordinate and decide to "pick on" DSM for no reason ... or does it make more logical sense that the common denominator in all those exchanges was responsible?

Every single one of those posts, is a response to you, or someone else litreally insulting him.

May as well call him fat at this point.

I don't get it. This guy likes EQ.

Ive read many complementary posts by him.

I've never seen him start a character attack fight.

I just dont get it!

Outside of offtopic is a disease.

We have problems but at least we admit we are swine!

[DeathsSilkyMist]

The above ten is just a small sampling: it would take quite awhile to quote every person DSM has ever felt attacked by. But given that sampling, the question becomes: did all those posters just coordinate and decide to "pick on" DSM for no reason ... or does it make more logical sense that the common denominator in all those exchanges was responsible?

Covering for other posters bad behavior (including your own) doesn't help this forum. Please stop covering for trolls. Your a wiki admin, you should know better.

[WarpathEQ]

In this thread: DSM attacks other people

Also in this thread: DSM complaining about people attacking him

Also in this thread: DSM gives unrestricted license to aggressively attack him for bloating threads.

[Samoht]

Another dodge. He can repost the link, my quote, and his explaination for how I attacked him at any time.

He won't, because he cant.

I won't because I already did once. You pretended you didn't read it, so I'm moving on with my life. It's funner to dance around you in this circle knowing my point has been made and you refuse to acknowledge it.

[shovelquest]

I read it. And it was YOU attacking DSM's character for liking everquest.

[loramin]

Every single one of those posts, is a response to you, or someone else litreally insulting him.

May as well call him fat at this point.

I don't get it. This guy likes EQ.

Ive read many complementary posts by him.

I've never seen him start a character attack fight.

I just dont get it!

Outside of offtopic is a disease.

We have problems but at least we admit we are swine!

Exactly right: me or nine other people "attacked" DSM. Except again, far more than that, because I didn't have time to list every example.

And I agree: DSM posts a lot, and a good percentage of those posts are positive.

But you never addressed my question:

did all those posters just coordinate and decide to "pick on" DSM for no reason ... or does it make more logical sense that the common denominator in all those exchanges was somehow at least partly responsible?

[Samoht]

Covering for other posters bad behavior (including your own) doesn't help this forum. Please stop covering for trolls. Your a wiki admin, you should know better.

You made a DPS calculator! You should know better!

[Samoht]

I read it. And it was YOU attacking DSM's character for liking everquest.

Ahh, shit. I should apologize for that.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

I won't because I already did once. You pretended you didn't read it, so I'm moving on with my life. It's funner to dance around you in this circle knowing my point has been made and you refuse to acknowledge it.

Thank you for admitting defeat. You cannot explain how I attacked you, because I didn't. You can't link to your explaination, because it doesn't exist.

You attacked me first, and then tried to lie your way out of it.

[shovelquest]

Exactly right: me or nine other people "attacked" DSM.

Exactly.

[Samoht]

Thank you for admitting defeat. You cannot explain how I attacked you, because I didn't. You can't link to your explaination, because it doesn't exist.

You attacked me first, and then tried to lie your way out of it.

It does exist. It's right there in the quote you linked. Click it.

[loramin]

Exactly.

And my question?

[shovelquest]

And my question?

Does everyone who dogpiles on someone online, coordinate?

Or are they all just a bunch of jerks?

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-reason-behind-people-ganging-up-on-others-in-a-mob-mentality-Can-this-behavior-be-prevented

[Samoht]

Does everyone who dogpiles on someone online, coordinate?

Or are they all just a bunch of jerks?

https://i.imgur.com/s4eamxv.jpeg

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Exactly right: me or nine other people "attacked" DSM. Except again, far more than that, because I didn't have time to list every example.

And I agree: DSM posts a lot, and a good percentage of those posts are positive.

But you never addressed my question:

I don't know why you keep asking about a conspiracy to attack me as if that proves anything. People can just look at this thread and see the attacks against me.

The real question is why do you ignore other people's bad behavior and target me over and over with this same nonsense?

Remember when you attacked me in a completely random thread as your first post in said thread?

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3742450&postcount=45

You did the very thing you accuse me of!

[shovelquest]

I am the white night gotham deserves.

https://i.imgur.com/lZijTWw.png

[DeathsSilkyMist]

It does exist. It's right there in the quote you linked. Click it.

You can repost your link and explaination at any time. But you won't because it doesn't exist. Thank you for conceding. You attacked me first, the post history is clear.

[Samoht]

He can't click it :(

[loramin]

Does everyone who dogpiles on someone online, coordinate?

Or are they all just a bunch of jerks?

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-reason-behind-people-ganging-up-on-others-in-a-mob-mentality-Can-this-behavior-be-prevented

But according to DSM, they're attacking him across many different threads. As I demonstrated, it's not just "dogpile on DSM" in any one thread: it's a consistent pattern across many of his posts (google "deathssilkymist attacking me site:project1999.com" ... and that's just the tip of the iceberg with the word "attack" in it).

You post a lot, with plenty of hot takes. Why hasn't this mass dogpiling group picked on you, or anyone else in this forum except DSM?

did all those posters just coordinate and decide to "pick on" DSM for no reason ... or does it make more logical sense that the common denominator in all those exchanges was somehow at least partly responsible?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

He can't click it :(

Thank you for admitting you attacked me first:


Wish we could discourage you from posting, but you just can't take the hint.


I can post the evidence. You have no evidence. You just keep repeating there is a link, which doesn't actually exist.

[shovelquest]

I did a full breakdown of the last 100 threads you were all a part of.

click here to read it in full.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

But according to DSM, they're attacking across many different threads. As I demonstrated, it's not just "dogpile on DSM" in any one thread: it's a consistent pattern across many of his posts (google "deathssilkymist attacking me site:project1999.com" ... and that's just the tip of the iceberg with the word "attack" in it).

You post a lot, with plenty of hot takes. Why hasn't this mass dogpiling group picked on you, or anyone else in this forum except DSM?

Remember when you attacked me in a random thread as your first post?

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3742450&postcount=45

Why did you do the very thing you accuse me of? Is it a conspiracy that forced you, or was it your own bad behavior?

[loramin]

Why did you do the very thing you accuse me of? Is it a conspiracy that forced you, or was it your own bad behavior?

Did you even read your own quote? The enitre post is literally an answer to your question:

No, you don't, and the fact that you think you do is part of your problem.

This is a forum. Its purpose is to facilitate communication about the game of EverQuest ... not to provide you or anyone else with a platform to endlessly air your grievances and "battles" with other posters.

Disagreement in a forum is normal and healthy, but you post in an abnormal and unhealthy way. You post pages of text no human would ever want to read, refuse to acknowledge the most basic facts that everyone else can plainly see, and otherwise post disengenuously and disrespectfully.



No one else on this forum posts like you do. You can keep playing the victim all you want, but at some point you have to recognize that all the feedback you get in the forum is because of how you post.

You are a great poster when you are on your best behavior. You are an absolute tragedy of a poster at your worst. I want to see you post better: that is the entirety of my agenda.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Did you even read your own quote? The answer is right there:

I did read it. You posted random lies and nonsense about me in a thread you had never even posted in before. You just trolled me and broke the forum rules. Do you need me to post the forum rules again for you, Mr wiki admin? How do you not know the rules?

I didn't force you to do that, you did yourself. Fix yourself before attacking others.

[Stryker85]

Yall need to let it go. It's really not that important. I appreciate you coming to my defense DeathsSilkyMist, but I'm really not worried about these idiots at all, and you shouldn't be either.

Some people will say anything to detract from other people's accomplishments and achievements, just out of pure spite or resentment that they haven't/can't do it themselves. Usually it's without them even realizing that that's where their criticism is coming from. Its basic human psychology. It stems from a deep rooted insecurity that they have that forces them to bring others down to (in their eyes) lift themselves up.

I'm proud of what I was able to do, and I just wanted to share something cool here. If that wasn't good enough for some of these people, they can kindly get fucked. No one cares.

[Samoht]

I can post the evidence. You have no evidence. You just keep repeating there is a link, which doesn't actually exist.

Funny, I can click the post you quote me on and it actually includes your post as a quote. It works on my side. It seems odd that it doesn't work on your side.

[shovelquest]

You post a lot, with plenty of hot takes. Why hasn't this mass dogpiling group picked on you, or anyone else in this forum except DSM?

Yeah and you made baseless character attacks against me for years until I ran your ass out of OT.

I see you doing the same thing to DSM for liking a moss covered twig.

[shovelquest]

Yall need to let it go. It's really not that important.

This is literally all we have!

[Samoht]

This is literally all we have!

Yeah, I feel like we're about to make a break through here.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Funny, I can click the post you quote me on and it actually includes your post as a quote. It works on my side. It seems odd that it doesn't work on your side.

Then you should have no problem reposting your explaination for how I attacked you. You've posted so much nonsense already.

Here, I'll make it easy for you and repost the comments again:

This is a disagreement on your "cheerleading" approach directly related to the thread:

Challenging someone to do more is fine. Discouraging people from doing something isn't fine.

People in this thread responding negatively were discouraging, not challenging.


Awesome! Can't wait to see the video.

This is an off-topic character attack:


Wish we could discourage you from posting, but you just can't take the hint.


The facts are clear. You attacked me first, and now you are spamming the thread because you were the one who started this, but you don't want to own up to it.

[shovelquest]

Yeah, I feel like we're about to make a break through here.

It's definitely gonna take a 18 or so more pages :p

[Samoht]

My goodness, he finally found where he attacked everybody else first! Hooray!

WE HAVE A BREAKTHROUGH.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

My goodness, he finally found where he attacked everybody else first! Hooray!

WE HAVE A BREAKTHROUGH.

I didn't attack you first. My post is clearly a disagreement. You need to explain how it was an attack. You can't, which is why you spam the thread.

[Samoht]

Ahh, fuck. Do we really have to argue about the degree to which you're allowed to shit post before someone else can call you out on it?

Are there any other requirements? Do I have to be a wiki admin? Do I have to make a DPS calculator? Do I have to tank AoW on a successful kill?

Please let me know in advance so that I know how to approach next time.

[loramin]

Yeah and you made baseless character attacks against me for years until I ran your ass out of OT.

I see you doing the same thing to DSM for liking a moss covered twig.

A) I've never been "run out of OT", and B) I have no idea who you are.

But far more importantly, my posts had nothing whatsoever to do with moss-covered twigs! I have absolutely no opinion on them whatsoever.

My entire issue is with DSM's posting. Even in this thread, I have no opinion on the "right" way to solo high-end mobs (some people think potions are legit, some don't: /shrug). But I do have an issue with DSM using a wiki page I created (from a forum thread) to try and tell someone else their (forum thread) opinion isn't legitimate.

[Samoht]

A) I've never been "run out of OT", and B) I have no idea who you are.

But far more importantly, my posts had nothing whatsoever to do with moss-covered twigs! I have absolutely no opinion on them whatsoever.

My entire issue is with DSM's posting. Even in this thread, I have no opinion on the "right" way to solo high-end mobs (some people think potions are legit, some don't: /shrug). But I do have an issue with DSM using a wiki page I created (from a forum thread) to try and tell someone else their (forum thread) opinion isn't legitimate.

On top of that, Lorean literally was run out of OT or whatever that means. Several times. That guys methods were soooo flawed. He had to change identities/names over the years but eventually it came back. The solo artist challenge is just another example.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Ahh, fuck. Do we really have to argue about the degree to which you're allowed to shit post before someone else can call you out on it?

Are there any other requirements? Do I have to be a wiki admin? Do I have to make a DPS calculator? Do I have to tank AoW on a successful kill?

Please let me know in advance so that I know how to approach next time.

I didn't shit post you. I am being serious. Why do you think someine disagreeing with you is an attack? How can a debate be had if you accuse people of attacking you because they said your comments where negative? You should re-read your posts. They weren't encouraging OP, you can clearly see that by how OP was responding.

Thanks man, I appreciate that. And yeah... I'm starting to remember why I stopped coming here lol.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

But I do have an issue with DSM using a wiki page I created (from a forum thread) to try and tell someone else their (forum thread) opinion isn't legitimate.

Please quote me where I did that. I never did that lol. Why do you keep misreading my posts and lying about them? You seriously have a problem, or you are trolling.

[Stryker85]

But I do have an issue with DSM using a wiki page I created (from a forum thread) to try and tell someone else their (forum thread) opinion isn't legitimate.

Let me help you with that, their opinion isn't legitimate, and it has nothing to do with the wiki. Their standards for these attempts are solo with self buffs only, which is not even remotely possible. Or as another moron recommended, self buffs with 300+ wort charges, which would be completely idiotic and require zero skill. These people are not arguing in good faith, they are trying to detract from an accomplishment that they clearly know NOTHING about, based on their moronic standards and recommendations.

[loramin]

I didn't attack you first. My post is clearly a disagreement. You need to explain how it was an attack. You can't, which is why you spam the thread.

It doesn't matter who "attacks" who first! What matters is the pattern.

This forum is full of assholes, blowhards with strong opinions, and just generally people who get into arguments with each other ... often very strong arguments.

But no one on this forum has pages and pages of quotes (again, I only took the top 10 that literally had the word "attack" in them) of such fights. Even Ripzoko (the epitome of an asshole forum poster) doesn't get into even a fraction of the "battles" DSM does.

You can make arguments defending or attacking DSM, but you can't deny the objective evidence that he "fights" more than anyone in this forum. And on this forum, that's truly saying something.

[Samoht]

Let me help you with that, their opinion isn't legitimate, and it has nothing to do with the wiki. Their standards for these attempts are solo with self buffs only, which is not even remotely possible. Or as another moron recommended, self buffs with 300+ wort charges, which would be completely idiotic and require zero skill. These people are not arguing in good faith, they are trying to detract from an accomplishment that they clearly know NOTHING about, based on their moronic standards and recommendations.

Hint: The solo artist challenge was written by an Iksar Monk. The blurb about melee's allowing to be raid buffed was so that he had a step up.

[Stryker85]

Hint: The solo artist challenge was written by an Iksar Monk. The blurb about melee's allowing to be raid buffed was so that he had a step up.

It's not even remotely possible without buffs you fcking idiot. Is it going to take you another 18 pages to comprehend that?

[Samoht]

It's not even remotely possible without buffs you fcking idiot. Is it going to take you another 18 pages to comprehend that?

Can we check with DSM to see if this is high enough aggravation level before I respond?

[loramin]

Please quote me where I did that. I never did that lol. Why do you keep misreading my posts and lying about them? You seriously have a problem, or you are trolling.

This is a perfect example of DSM's disengenuity. I already quoted you in the post when I "attacked" (ie. disagreed with) you:

The ignorance is from yourself, as you didn't seem to read the solo challenge artist page:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Solo_Artist_Challenge

[DeathsSilkyMist]

It doesn't matter who "attacks" who first! What matters is the pattern.


It actually does. Attacking someone literally breaks the forum rules. I've reposted the rules multiple times, and you still haven't read them.

You simply want to pretend who attacks who first doesn't matter because you like attacking me. Notice how Loramin doesn't chide other posters for their bad behavior. He just targets me over and over with attacks, even in random threads as his first post:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3742450&postcount=45

[loramin]

Again, if the pattern doesn't matter, why are you the only forum poster with that pattern? You can't have it both ways: you can't have hundreds of posters all unfairly attacking you, but with no logic or explanation for it.

[Samoht]

It actually does. Attacking someone literally breaks the forum rules. I've reposted the rules multiple times, and you still haven't read them.

You simply want to pretend who attacks who first doesn't matter because you like attacking me. Notice how Loramin doesn't chide other posters for their bad behavior. He just targets me over and over with attacks, even in random threads as his first post:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3742450&postcount=45

If you don't like being attacked, maybe you should... stop... posting?

Holy shit, I've gone full circle! That was my original idea to begin with.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Again, if the pattern doesn't matter, why are you the only forum poster with that pattern? You can't have it both ways: you can't have hundreds of posters all unfairly attacking you, but with no logic or explanation for it.

You keep dodging. Why are you unable to admit you broke the forum rules?

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3742450&postcount=45

I didn't force you to do this. Stop blaming me for your bad behavior.

[loramin]

If you don't like being attacked, maybe you should... stop... posting?

Or just post better. DSM is clearly capable of it: he doesn't need the disengenuity, or the walls of text, or the endless fighting with everyone.

Just post better and I guarantee most of the "attacks" will go away (I say most because, well, this is the P99 forum after all).

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Or just post better. You're clearly capable of it: you don't need the disengenuity, you don't need the walls of text, and you don't need to fight with everyone.

Just post better and I guarantee most of the "attacks" will go away (I say most because, well, this is the P99 forum after all).

This is correct. Stop attacking myself and other posters, and we won't post in defense. Take your own advise.

[bcbrown]

I'm proud of what I was able to do, and I just wanted to share something cool here. If that wasn't good enough for some of these people, they can kindly get fucked. No one cares.

That was a cool accomplishment, thanks for sharing. Sorry your thread got shitted up.

Yall need to let it go. It's really not that important. I appreciate you coming to my defense DeathsSilkyMist, but I'm really not worried about these idiots at all, and you shouldn't be either.


This is a good attitude to have!

[Samoht]

I love how HE'S the only one allowed to break forum rules.

I'm convinced it's a parity account or bot or something at this point.

No one can be this glib.

[loramin]

You keep dodging. Why are you unable to admit you broke the forum rules?

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3742450&postcount=45

I didn't force you to do this. Stop blaming me for your bad behavior.

Can I just point out that you went from accusing me of unfairly attacking you, to me pointing our I'dl literally quoted the post that was the basis in my post ... to you 100% failing to even acknowledge the reality of what just happened, and attacking me for my bad behavior?

Dude, you are the definition of a dishonest, disengenuous person when you post like this. Just don't. Stop acting like your entire sense of self-worth depends on what the imaginary forum readers in your head think of your posts, and just try to communicate with your fellow humans honestly instead.

[Samoht]

I wish I had an idea of who it really was, but literally no one I can think of as a possibility would be caught dead in kittens.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

I love how HE'S the only one allowed to break forum rules.

I'm convinced it's a parity account or bot or something at this point.

No one can be this glib.

You broke the forum rules by attacking me. I am allowed to defend myself from that. Otherwise you are suggesting the forum should just be full of lies and character attacks, while the victims must remain silent. Rules for thee, but not for me is clearly your motto.

[Samoht]

Maybe being in kittens was part of the deep cover? 4d chess yall.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Can I just point out that you went from accusing me of unfairly attacking you, to me pointing our I'dl literally quoted the post that was the basis in my post ... to you 100% failing to even acknowledge the reality of what just happened, and attacking me for my bad behavior.

Dude, you are the definition of a dishonest, disengenuous person when you post like this. Just don't. Stop actiing like your entire sense of self worth depends on what the imaginary forum readers in your head think of your posts, and just try to communicate with your fellow humans honestly.

The only person failing to acknowledge reality is yourself:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3742450&postcount=45

This post was an off-topic attack on me in a thread you never posted in before. It is against the forum rules to randomly post character attacks and lies against another poster in random threads.

This is a perfect example of DSM's disengenuity. I already quoted you in the post when I "attacked" (ie. disagreed with) you:

You didn't read the post.

you're just ignorant about it.

Zur said I was the ignorant one in the post I was responding to, I just defended myself from that attack.

[Samoht]

Yeah have you ring around the rosyed either?

[loramin]

You broke the forum rules by attacking me. I am allowed to defend myself from that. Otherwise you are suggesting the forum should just be full of lies and character attacks, while the victims must remain silent. Rules for thee, but not for me is clearly your motto.

No, that's not how this works!

This is not an arena! It's not a field of battle! It's a fucking forum!

The point of this place is to communicate (genuinely, honestly). There might be some assholes who like to skirmish a bit here and there, but this not a battlefield for you to fight on!

[Samoht]

Let he who is without shitpost cast the first stone!

[DeathsSilkyMist]

No, that's not how this works!


Yes, that is how it works:


Rants and Flames
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Off Topic
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Trolling
If you must troll another user, keep it contained to Rants and Flames. Don’t over do it.

Forum accounts created for the sole purpose of trolling are not allowed.

We encourage you to list your in-game characters in your signature so other forum users may know who your characters are in game. Its no fun reading posts from AnonymousForumTroll01 without knowing who they are in game, and this does not foster community growth


If you attack someone randomly in a thread outside of RnF, you break the rules.

[loramin]

DSM, genuine question: if you didn't fight everyone who offended your honor in the forums, what would happen? Would the world end? Would your avatar get a "loser" banner accross it?

What would actually happen if you just stopped "battling" everyone?

[Samoht]

Yes, that is how it works:

If you attack someone randomly in a thread outside of RnF, you break the rules.

Can't quite figure out where it says it's okay to retaliate, though. Can you please show us where in the forum rules where shit posts are allowed, but only in retaliation?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

DSM, genuine question: if you didn't fight everyone who offended your honor in the forums, what would happen? Would the world end? Would your avatar get a "loser" banner accross it?

What would actually happen if you just stopped "battling" everyone?

The answer is quite simple. My rule is I don't attack people, I only defend myself.

If zero people attack me, zero defense posts are generated in response.

Focus your fury on the posters breaking the rules (including yourself) instead of the posters being attacked.

[loramin]

The answer is quite simple. My rule is I don't attack people, I only defend myself.

And what would happen if you didn't?

[Samoht]

Attacks are shit posts

Defense is also shit posts

How can someone be this dumb?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Can't quite figure out where it says it's okay to retaliate, though. Can you please show us where in the forum rules where shit posts are allowed, but only in retaliation?

I think you are being quite silly if you think the forum should be full of lies and attacks against other posters, while the posters being attacked must remain silent. This just encourages the bad actors like yourself to keep breaking the rules.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

And what would happen if you didn't?

It sounds like you want the forum to be full of your posts that lie a out other posters, while the posters being lied about must remain silent. A perfect world for a bully.

[Samoht]

I think you are being quite silly if you think the forum should be full of lies and attacks against other posters, while the posters being attacked must remain silent. This just encourages the bad actors like yourself to keep breaking the rules.

Rules are rules. You don't get a pass to break them.

[shovelquest]

DSM, genuine question: if you didn't fight everyone who offended your honor in the forums, what would happen? Would the world end? Would your avatar get a "loser" banner accross it?

What would actually happen if you just stopped "battling" everyone?

What would actually happen if you stopped replying to DSM?

[loramin]

Again, this is not a high school speech and debate tournament. It is not a court room. IT IS A DAMN FORUM!

There's no "remaining silent". Person 1 says thing A. Person two disagrees with thing B. That's it: that's the entirety of a normal/healthy forum interaction.

Not everything has to be a fight, with arguments repeated ad naseum across pages and pages.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Rules are rules. You don't get a pass to break them.

Nor do you. You broke the rules by attacking me, and you are claiming I cannot defend myself. You just want a forum where you can endlessly attack others, while they must remain silent. How sad.

[shovelquest]

Stop saying the F word. Kids play here.

[Samoht]

What would actually happen if you stopped replying to DSM?

Honestly? DSM would keep posting and keep lamenting how he was being attacked and boasting about how he fought all the attackers off.

This dude is deranged.

[loramin]

What would actually happen if you stopped replying to DSM?

I will someday. I still haven't completely lost hope in his potential to rehabilitate and be a great poster on this forum (instead of being one of its most ignomious).

Stop saying the F word. Kids play here.

Edited, but I do think of this as a non-child-friendly forum.

[shovelquest]

Again, this is not a high school speech and debate tournament. It is not a court room. IT IS A FUCKING FORUM!

There's no "remaining silent". Person 1 says thing A. Person two disagrees with thing B. That's it: that's the entirety of a normal/healthy forum interaction.

Not everything has to be a fight, with arguments repeated ad naseum across pages and pages.

He said in a fight on the forum.

:D

[Samoht]

Nor do you. You broke the rules by attacking me, and you are claiming I cannot defend myself. You just want a forum where you can endlessly attack others, while they must remain silent. How sad.

That's exactly right. You do not get to break the forum rules in retaliation.

Rule breaker. Someone report this person.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Again, this is not a high school speech and debate tournament. It is not a court room. IT IS A FUCKING FORUM!

There's no "remaining silent". Person 1 says thing A. Person two disagrees with thing B. That's it: that's the entirety of a normal/healthy forum interaction.

Not everything has to be a fight, with arguments repeated ad naseum across pages and pages.

Then take your own advice and stop attacking me. There would be like 20 less posts in this thread if you didn't attack me and stuck to the topic at hand. You are the problem here, not me.

He said in a fight on the forum.

:D

Loramin is a hypocrite in this regard for sure.

[Samoht]

*fewer

[loramin]

Then take your own advice and stop attacking me. There would be like 20 less posts in this thread if you didn't attack me and stuck to the topic at hand. You are the problem here, not me.

Me and the (literally) 9+ other people you've said are the problem (see my earlier post).

The problem isn't me, because the pattern isn't around my posts. I'm just the only person who keeps trying to engage with you rather than giving up in disgust.

(Or maybe you truly are hopeless, and don't care about engaging with respect and honesty in your posts. Maybe my problem is thinking you can be better when you can't.)

[shovelquest]

Plz nobody take anyone's advice here and keep going.

https://i.imgur.com/SLiAK40.png

[Samoht]

Plz nobody take anyone's advice here and keep going.

Don't mind if i do

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Me and the (literally) 9+ other people you've said are the problem. The problem isn't me, I'm just the only person who keeps trying to engage with you rather than giving up in disgust.

This is a fallacy lol. Ten people can say 1 + 1 = 3. The one person saying 1 + 1 = 2 is still correct factually speaking.

The problem is you and the other troll posters. You attack me in thread after thread with lies, and expect me to sit there and take it. You battle me across these forums while proclaiming it isn't a battleground. What a silly person you are. So blind to your own shortcomings.

[Samoht]

You attack me im thread after thread with lies, and expect me to sit there and take it.

That is in the forums rules, tho. Please direct all shit posts to RnF. Stop breaking forum rules.

[loramin]

This is a fallacy lol. Ten people can say 1 + 1 = 3. The one person saying 1 + 1 = 2 is still correct factually speaking.

The problem is you. You attack me im thread after thread with lies, and expect me to sit there and take it. You battle me across these forums while proclaiming it isn't a battleground. What a silly person you are. So blind to your own shortcomings.

Here's the thing. When a normal person sees someone claiming "1 + 1 = 3", they don't devote ten pages to arguing with them. They just think "that guy's a moron", and move on.

You seem to lack the capacity to do that, and I think it's something you should cultivate.

And again, I suspect it's because you have a low sense of self-worth, so you feel personally attacked whenever anyone disagrees with what you say. Maybe just love and value yourself a little more, and you can stop fighting with everyone/everything on the Internet.

[shovelquest]

you remember the last time 9 people got together in a fantasy realm?

https://i.imgur.com/dGZjqTy.png

[DeathsSilkyMist]

That is in the forums rules, tho. Please direct all shit posts to RnF. Stop breaking forum rules.

You are the one who needs to do this. Next time make and RnF post instead of attacking me first in this thread.

[Samoht]

You are the one who needs to do this. Next time make and RnF post instead of attacking me first in this thread.

OH NO HE ATTACKED ME. RULE BREAKER. THIS ISN'T RNF.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Here's the thing. When a normal person sees someone claiming "1 + 1 = 3", they don't devote ten pages to arguing with them. They just think "that guy's a moron", and move on.

You seem to lack the capacity to do that, and I think it's something you should cultivate.

Says the person replying to me over and over again. You do what you accuse me of, and then blame me for your finger pressing the submit button.

Please stop attacking me and lying about me across multiple threads. Is your self worth so low you must attack others to elevate yourself?

[shovelquest]

FAWDSMAFO

Fuck around with DSM and find out.

[loramin]

Says the person replying to me over and over again. You do what you accuse me of, and then blame me for your finger pressing the submit button.

I'm trying to communicate with you. Again, it's what forums are for (not fighting endlessly).

[Samoht]

Says the person replying to me over and over again. You do what you accuse me of, and then blame me for your finger pressing the submit button.

Please stop attacking me and lying about me across multiple threads. Is your self worth so low you must attack others to elevate yourself?

Please stop breaking the rules. You're not allowed to attack people. This isn't RnF.

[shovelquest]

Listen you fat bag of shit, I'm trying to communicate with your stupid ass.

This is what your posts read like to me, bro.

:o

[DeathsSilkyMist]

I'm trying to communicate with you. Again, it's what forums are for (not fighting endlessly).

I just want you to literally stop lying about me and attacking me in every thread I reply to. Is that a difficult request?

Did I communicate that clearly enough?

[Samoht]

I just want you to literally stop lying about me and attacking me in every thread I reply to. Is that a difficult request?

Did I communicate that clearly enough?

Please stop breaking the rules. You're not allowed to attack people. This isn't RnF.

[shovelquest]

c'mon im refreshing over here, lets go!

[loramin]

I just want you to literally stop lying about me and attacking me in every thread I reply to. Is that a difficult request?

Did I communicate that clearly enough?

And I want you to post honestly and genuinely, with respect and consideration for your fellow posters, 100% of the time (not just 50%). Did I communicate that clearly?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

And I want you to post honestly and genuinely, with respect and consideration for your fellow posters, 100% of the time (not just 50%). Did I communicate that clearly?

I do post honestly and genuinely, and with respect. You can check my post history. I don't start these back and forths. If you don't attack me, nothing out of the ordinary happens.

The problem here is you read my posts incorrectly and through a biased lens. So you are assuming I am being malicous or dishonest when I am not. I have plenty of evidence showing Loramin misreading my posts, attacking the strawman version of myself, and then claiming his misrepresentation of my post is fact.

[shovelquest]

You absolutely can see that DSM does that ITT and others.

[Samoht]

I do post honestly and genuinely, and with respect. You can check my post history. I don't start these back and forths. If you don't attack me, nothing out of the ordinary happens.

The problem here is you read my posts incorrectly and through a biased lens. So you are assuming I am being malicous or dishonest when I am not. I have plenty of evidence showing Loramin misreading my posts, attacking the strawman version of myself, and then claiming his misrepresentation of my post is fact.

Please stop breaking the rules. You're not allowed to attack people. This isn't RnF.

[Skarne]

is this really worth yalls time? cant ya just say great job and move on, then ignore anyone who is rude?

[loramin]

I do post honestly and genuinely, and with respect. You can check my post history. I don't start these back and forths. If you don't attack me, nothing out of the ordinary happens.

So then why the pattern around you? Why was I able to so easily assemble quotes from 10 different posters, all (by your own words) attacking you? And we both know the number is much, much higher than ten.

Is it that the forum has all ganged up on you without reason? Can you intellectually honestly say that the common denominator (ie. you) had no impact ... despite the fact that no other poster on the entire site has your "everyone attacks me" problem?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Please stop breaking the rules. You're not allowed to attack people. This isn't RnF.

Spamming the thread doesn't change the fact you attacked me first, and I defended myself. You can't hide the truth in a mountain of spam.

[shovelquest]

Humans vs Ogres.

Nothing's changed.