Ever..."Quests"

[DarthMartigan]

When I read the subject heading I thought this thread was about how long the bard epic takes :P

But seriously, I don't understand how the first people playing figured out things like this. Just thinking about the lambent quests, where the dialog told you exactly what you needed but didn't tell you where from. If you'd never quested in mistmoore or lguk, none of it would make sense... and those armor quests are pretty simple.

[Spyder73]

I was honestly kinda p!ssed when i first got EQ back in 1999. I had been playing Ultima Online for a few years and I had been following EQs development and was really excited when it released. I remember telling my dad I wanted to get Ever Quest and his reaction was something to the tone of "Why, so you can waste even more time infront of that d@mn computer" - and my counterpoint to this was that UO and EQ were completely different in-so-far-as in EQ you can log in, do a quest, and then log out...There are defined things in game to do and its not just a cluster f#ck FFA like Ultima. Its completely quest based! He didn't really understand what I was telling him, but I told him this would take up less time than UO did. Well, this turned out to be completely false - half my time on UO was macroing and tricking people into my house to PK them - nothing like the time sink that is EQ. WoW actually turned out to be what little me thought EQ would be.

But I say all that to say this - ever QUEST - has the worst quests of any game I have ever played, but I still <3<3<3 it

[Man0warr]

Supposedly one of the developers who posted on the Safehouse (old rogue forums) leaked how to finish the Rogue epic (that he helped create). Think his name started with a K.

[drktmplr12]

Burning Rapier anyone?

disclaimer: i didn't figure this out, just transposed it from an old forum. Credit should goto Turlo at thesafehouse.org

Bryan McGee says 'The oblong bottle is a legend. They say one drink and you're off to oblivion, but just before that you feel the best you've ever felt and relive all your finest memories in the blink of an eye. The last I heard, some guy by the name of Turgin Swillfod turned up in Freeport spouting that he had found it. He was never heard from again.'

this should spur you to go to the freeport docks and ask everyone "what oblong bottle?" to which a bard suggests to sing you a song for 300pp (for a HINT!).

The song mentions how the owner hosted a ocean party, they sailed to Butcherblock, then turned around to come back. As the ship was threading the needle, his friends dared him to drink until he can drink no more, and as he did, they counted. At the count of 10, he passed out, and fell overboard with the bottle, never to be seen again.

this means if you jump off the boat 10 seconds after passing the rocks, you will find the bottle. Assuming you knew what "threading the needle" meant with respect to nautical terminology.

TLDR: Burning Rapier is a great example of good quest design, imo. Finding the oblong bottle wasn't entirely abstract, but not very straightforward either.

[Furniture]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But I say all that to say this - ever QUEST - has the worst quests of any game I have ever played, but I still <3<3<3 it

EQ quests are 100x better then bland wow-style "kill x number of bears", even if they are weak

[Itap]

Originally Posted by Furniture [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EQ quests are 100x better then bland wow-style "kill x number of bears", even if they are weak

No doubt the quests are scripted 100 times better, but the time sink versus reward is terrible on most of them. 20 hours camping rare mobs, running across norrath and failing trivial combines for a shitty cloak with 2ac and 2cha. Still fun as hell though

[Furniture]

I agree the rewards on most quests suck compared to the time spent

[Axlrose]

I thought many of the quests were ~solved~ when players were reverse engineering the codes and looking for certain non-playing characters and phrases. Then they went back into the game and spammed combinations until something worked.

Then I used to hear tales of developers casually dropping huge hints to players that ran forums and whatnot, who then dropped the same hints to their fan base.

*shrugs*

[Voland]

Originally Posted by xKoopa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there was a thread somewhere full of people posting these rumors that people on classic believed

This sounds like a fun read, please post the link if you find it.

[maestrom]

If you stand on your head, Raster will spawn.