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Old 06-21-2010, 12:13 PM
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I keep seeing people saying Druids are better healers than shaman on these forums.

a) they have the exact same heals til Shaman get Torpor and Druids get ... nada.

b) ghetto CHs are from luclin, I think. Even if those exist, they suck and I'd still say Shaman.
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Old 06-21-2010, 12:18 PM
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Cogwell - you are right, druids and shamans get the same heals. I think when people say that that druids are better it's for other reasons such as shamans are better used for other things than healer compared to druids. For instance, shamans receive slows and nice procing melee weapons. Druids on the other hand receive things like damage shields. I think it's just a matter of perspective but it is true that they are essentially the same in terms of healing spells.
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Old 06-21-2010, 12:24 PM
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shaman are better healers because of slow alone, there isn't much of a debate there
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Old 06-21-2010, 12:26 PM
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I keep seeing people saying Druids are better healers than shaman on these forums.
a) they have the exact same heals
I 100% agree and would not say otherwise. Shaman makes the better choice for a 3 person team if you do not have an enchanter due to slow but there is a little issue with that. In a three person group if your shaman is doing all his buffs on the tank, hasting the tank and slowing the mobs, and healing the tank.. Well that's pretty obscene in the demand department. Sure it could be done but it's extremely inefficient. SO chances are the shaman won't be doing both slow and heals all the time. Honestly the need for slow in Classic is fairly low aside from certain bigger mobs.


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shaman are better healers because of slow alone, there isn't much of a debate there
If you have a chanter then you would pick the druid over the shaman due to the overlapping of class abilities (haste, slow, etc.). It all depends on what else the group consists of.

Using both an enchanter and a shaman created a bit of a redundancy in the sense that a good enchanter can slow all incoming mobs and CC without much issue. Then you have your shaman not slowing mobs ever which negates the main advantage you are giving the shaman. It comes down to what you prefer, the big buffs, dog pet and additional source of slow/haste (additional due to enchanter) or the ports, snare, evac, big nukes.
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Old 06-21-2010, 12:52 PM
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Srsly mag nec ench would rape faces but you'll fight over every pretty dress that drops
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Old 06-21-2010, 01:22 PM
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For instance, shamans receive slows and nice procing melee weapons. Druids on the other hand receive things like damage shields.
Thanks for letting us know that Shaman get slows and druids get damage shields. Thats, like, easter-egg secret stuff that I'm sure no one here knew [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 06-21-2010, 07:31 PM
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Wouldn't a Bard be a lot better than an Enchanter in the Enchanter - Paladin - Cleric trio? He can do most of what an Enchanter does, not quite as well, but also adds some much needed DPS. I would imagine the kills would be incredibly slow in that group even with a twinked Paladin. Not to mention he adds movement abilities to negate the Druid idea.
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Old 06-22-2010, 08:15 AM
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Wouldn't a Bard be a lot better than an Enchanter in the Enchanter - Paladin - Cleric trio? He can do most of what an Enchanter does, not quite as well, but also adds some much needed DPS. I would imagine the kills would be incredibly slow in that group even with a twinked Paladin. Not to mention he adds movement abilities to negate the Druid idea.
If you replace the enchanter with the bard, you would probably also replace the druid... in which case you are dealing witha completely different group setup.

Bard has snare and DS and great resist but his own DPS is shit. Bard DPS does best in a group with 3-4 melee classes. If the bard is just hasting himself and the tank it's not that noticeable.

Also don't forget that if the bard is mezzing adds or charming, or pulling then during that time you are barely getting the benefits of all the buff songs.
Yes a bard is extremely versatile (one of my favorite classes), but you would probably want a completely different group to complement him.

Bards are awesome for duos (not to mention solo). Snare kite with a druid or necro, fear kite with a necro or SK. Quad kite with a druid or wizard. Bard can truly shine in these scenarios. But I'm getting sidetracked...
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