Post here every time you are disappointed by no Red 2.0 news

[Gustoo]

Good morning. Disappointed here.

1. Red will never merge to blue 1000% not happening for infinite reasons but most of all because it would be pulling the rug out from under the 30 red players that like the dead 99 pvp server and don't want it to become a non PVP server. I don't think this is something the P99 staff would do.

2. P99 staff did mismanage this server. The red community is also guilty of being a scum community similar to the broader p99 community. Blame is shared no doubt but the total focus on level 60 raid aspect of red99 and all p99 servers is a detriment to the actual play experience of these servers.

3. people don't learn.

[Tunabros]

Hey loses, red wouldn't be dead if you played on it

hope this helps

[Zuranthium]

Let's be honest, you guys wants a merge so you can sell your worthless accounts for real money. If not, you would play blue.

This is such ignorant, incorrect reasoning. Especially when there is already the plan for Green to merge into Blue.

And no, the integration of Red to Blue wouldn't ruin the economy at all. Seems like you're the one in the RMT business with that kind of logic.

It shows how you don't know what you're talking about when you try to twist the very real staff mistakes as "blaming them".

[A Knight]

If I was rich, I would provide the funds for a new Rallos Zek server, pay people a 100 dollars a month to try it, and have free beer Friday.

[Raclen]

Ideas like that is why someone like you will never have money.

[Gustoo]

Disappointed 9-3-2021

We're coming up on a year since this quality thread was started.

Can we merge all other red99 threads into this one?

[starkind]

..

[Sear]

I check these forums once every year or so (or whenever I have the old Everquest neckbeard itch) and am usually bummed that there's only one red server with like 30 people playing on it.

Would love a fresh red server from P99. I'd be happy to help code it, market/hype it, whatever. Or just donate via paypal. Let's be real, that's probably the best way to get this ball rolling. I know that's what would work for me.

POST IF U WILL DONATE A GENEROUS SUM TO P99 VIA PAYPAL TO HAVE A FRESH RED BOX

[Disease]

I check these forums once every year or so (or whenever I have the old Everquest neckbeard itch) and am usually bummed that there's only one red server with like 30 people playing on it.

Would love a fresh red server from P99. I'd be happy to help code it, market/hype it, whatever. Or just donate via paypal. Let's be real, that's probably the best way to get this ball rolling. I know that's what would work for me.

POST IF U WILL DONATE A GENEROUS SUM TO P99 VIA PAYPAL TO HAVE A FRESH RED BOX

Try the green server. /duel works when you want the thrill of pvp, plus a way bigger population.

[Tradesonred]

Gotta say disease puts more effort into his trolling than say, Tassador's "Why are you wearing caca pants, caca pants?" trolling. ill give it a 6/10.

[Baler]

Red 2.0 Jan 14th 2022 lolgottem

[Rust1d?]

hi

Bring back Crucify...time to do big

[Danger]

mad

[starkind]

https://i.imgur.com/bEqRRx2.gif

[A Knight]

Love red. I hope I can play it again soon, not a joke. Very happy it exists but also disappointed no new red 3.0.

[Gustoo]

Disappointed but stay strong.

[Knuckle]

I know a lot of vztz people remember the Rile event in everfrost. That was very well done and in corner of the map that is not in use anyways. Rewards were strong but not terribly OP for the era.

I just don't see as programmer willing to spend the hours to make such an event

Definitely going to need to wait out New World launch anyways. Everyone and their mammies gonna be playing.

That event was fun, the items were *mostly* well balanced too as supplemental PVP/PVE endgame for each class without negating the value of existing raid targets.

[Gustoo]

Did some new research, discovered disappointment

[Shac]

reset

[Jazzy]

Reset now wankers

[Tassador]

Let’s be honest if they can get 96 people on for even 10 minutes in a week even counting boxes that’s pretty impressive and alone should keep this server the same for 10 more years. I just hope this dude talking AoN #3 by then.

[starkind]

https://i.imgur.com/l4SETJq.gif

[Baler]

They're scared of our raw power.

[Tunabros]

*flexes large muscles*

yeah guys i dont wear masks

and I'm so cool

ah durrrrrr

[Baler]

*flexes large muscles*

yeah guys i dont wear masks

and I'm so cool

ah durrrrrr

that's a weird flex bro, just stay disappointed.

[Disease]

Let’s be honest if they can get 96 people on for even 10 minutes in a week even counting boxes that’s pretty impressive and alone should keep this server the same for 10 more years. I just hope this dude talking AoN #3 by then.

Almost enough dkp for my second one. Stay mad.

[starkind]

shamans should be able to worship bertox imo

[Gustoo]

Disappointed

[starkind]

This page needs multiple starkind posts

[Ninjajobae]

LETS--GO--2.0

[pink grapefruit]

Leveling a new character on red again. Players are nice ofc, already been helped by two friendly druids just on my first time playing.

Have seen zero people to xp with or pvp, though :(

It's time for a new server.

[Ninjajobae]

Join Warlords of Zek in Game Talk to fryin he's on right now... alot of us just started should be a good spot for you

[Baler]

If there was a new red server I would be there in a heartbeat.

[Knuckle]

Excited for VZTZ 4.0 arriving shortly for testing, I think red99 with 2-boxxing new server (call it purple or something) would be a better long term solution, but VZTZ is rocking the old DEV that was on 3.0 so its probably the most legitimate side project since 2010.

[Zade]

yea lets build a new red server because if the past 10 years of red server pop has taught us anything, we need to reward them.

[Knuckle]

yea lets build a new red server because if the past 10 years of red server pop has taught us anything, we need to reward them.

pvp has always been more niche than pve, rightly so. its a smaller pop so the toxicity is more apparent. Can't pretend that there isn't a lot of toxicity in the PVE servers, just more players to cushion it.

[Tradesonred]

yea lets build a new red server because if the past 10 years of red server pop has taught us anything, we need to reward them.

I got this one! Zade, we fucking gave you feedback on a silver platter the first year of red. Staff ignored us. Rogean laughed at us. This isnt CoD. The ruleset distilled the server to its griefest, toxicest. Staff was warned, month after month, that this would happen with nothing done until we hit late night single digit pop. You kept doing shit that crippled the server, with practically no communication on the reasoning behind it (like the kunark xp nerf who basically ended my guild, red dawn). Staff needs to take some responsability here.

Part of the toxicity is just inevitable and would happen anyway. Welcome to MMOs. But the way staff interacts with its playerbase here (or more accurately, the way it doesnt interact) breeds cynicism.

Here you are, bitching at the playerbase, the same week where we are building up a thread, of our own volition, to try to brainstorm a ruleset that would work cuz you guys cant be fucking arsed to do shit like this. We do this knowing that it is very likely that if a new server pops up, none of that feedback will be taken into account. Because we care about EQ pvp emu.

[starkind]

.

[Maiten]

Has anyone tried "Kingdom" based PvP? I see they've done deity-based rules etc.

Kelethin vs Kaladim
(High, Wood, & Half Elf vs Dwarf, Gnome, & Human)

Cabilis vs Kaesora Ruins
(Iksar & Dark Elf vs Ogre & Troll)

Halas
(Barbarians and Halflings)

Erudin
(Erudites)

PvP should be fun no matter the level.

[Gustoo]

yea lets build a new red server because if the past 10 years of red server pop has taught us anything, we need to reward them.

First of all to everyone who want's to rip into this comment I will say that it is nice to have an indication that a staff member is reading this message board at all.

Second of all, I don't know what you're trying to say here Zade. What has the past 10 years of the red server pop taught you? Right now we have almost zero indication except this post that you guys are even looking at red server pop. The pop has been tanked for about 6 years, so has it taught you to move tor red 2.0??? That would be nice. Has it taught you that an unclassic ruleset that gives no reason to PVP except over dragons taught you to create a different ruleset?? Perhaps a classic rallos set that makes low level PVP fun, Or if an unclassic one than one that is modified to make the server more enjoyable, like Nilbogs sullon 2 teams?

Or maybe you are referring to toxicity? Turn off YT and global OOC. Problem solved. a PVP server is 100% in line with the visions of this project, I don't understand why you and seemingly the rest of the staff chooses to treat the pvp server like its some kind of leper. I can only imagine the abyssal insanity that would happen if there was global OOC on blue and someone got kill stealed or something. Global OOC isn't part of classic everquest for a reason. They had the technology but it doesn't fit into the game correctly. When those channels got added in luclin they were detrimental to the feel of the game, one of the reasons luclin sucks.

So please tell us what the last 10 years has taught you? Perhaps not to saddle us with corrupt GMS that were bribed and in their way contributed to the actions that led to the main competition to Nihilum guild being disbanded?? Which helped Nihilum do all of the things that led to their disbandment as well?

Good golley. Yes we are asking for a bone to be thrown, please not a rock. We want to try another server, and enjoy it till it hits endgame velious, and then start a new server to enjoy again. The journey is the fun part, and there are things that staff and the players can do to make the journey even more fun.

Here are some highlights of the great ideas coming from the red community that will help all future EQ emu servers with any substantial population:

1. Custom "legacy item" implementation. Either not in the game at all (which would be LIVE correct style as they were not included on all non launch servers) or in the game in some other way that does not create a toxic race-to-camp situation. Either an in-game currency casino which combats inflation, or randomized dungeon boss drop percentage. On a pvp server this could rotate through some bosses randomly and be announced so people could go to the battle zone to try to hold the manastone camp, which would be the easiest ever GM event since it only requires changing the loot table and telling us what mob has a 1% chance of dropping a manastone. On blue this would not work so well but you can imagine the easy ways to implement a similar idea on blue.
2. Modified Level progression. The mad rush to level 50 is partly due to the extreme value of getting manastones and DE masks for characters and accounts while they are available, so custom legacy item integration will fix this toxic aspect of new servers somewhat. However, a progressive level cap would force people to level up in the game at a more normal pace, since there would be less reason to hit the cap and therefore people might actually enjoy the game on their journey without the looming pressure to get first dragon kills faster than have ever been done before, or to get more manastones as an investment in the future in the server.

Point 2 is extra important on red server because pvp at levels below 60 is particularly interesting. This system would allow low level pvp to be enjoyed and participated in on the Nilbog custom 2 teams Sullon server while the level caps are in place. Ultimately the sullon server has ZERO low level PVP action, but it is better than the present ruleset because it fixes OOR healing issues, and it allows high level team mates to assist the low levels on their team rather than leaving a twink PK to run rampant with no reason or ability to fight that twink PK which is our present situation. So point 2 makes a sullon ruleset have an enjoyable progressive experience for a while. Rallos Zek item loot ruleset is ideal because it is classic but its benefits favor the low level game which I have found to be something that is sneered at by both staff and many players perhaps because everyone came back to everquest to "win" this time which means being level 60 for as long as possible.

Both of these items will help the future non pvp servers. These ideas fit into the vision of this project and were developed by the red community in the 6 + years of brainstorming how to make a good PVP server and by extension how to make a good server in general in 2021. You're welcome.

You are also welcome to test these ideas on the apparently worthless swine server you call red pvp that doesn't deserve the "reward" of a new server before you implement them on blue 3.0 in the coming years.

Also please excuse the "you" I am aware that you area not a present active staff member.

[Jibartik]

Red server is perfect example about how when you quarantine people that dont exactly see eye to eye with you, they start seeing eye to eye with each other and all of the sudden Donald Trump is president, you can look directly to red99 as the cause of that you can be sure.

[Gustoo]

Shit I just realized this is in the disappointed thread which is supposed to be just a repeating list of people stating their disappointment levels. Now I'm disappointed 2.0 :P

[Nahuelco]

3rd time is the charm!

I like the level progression idea. I tried to post a Kingdom Based PvP rule set that "limits" the zones within the first year of Classic and same for Kunark.
(A Level 20 can only go so far into Ocean of Tears kind of example)

EQ is a big world and with a low pop, you would have to shrink the boundary.

[Nahuelco]

For someone who has too much thinking time and not enough free time to program:

tldr; Another custom ruleset. Definitely not classic EQ. Just trying to have some fun!

-Books & Chapters (Timeline)-
Book 1: The Greater Faydark and Butcherblock Mountains War (Level 15 cap)

Chapter 1: The Battle of Crushbone
Chapter 2: The Unsettling Estate of Unrest
Chapter 3: The Ocean of Tears Massacre (Level 20 cap)
--[Extended Chapters: Due to time, may not be implemented]
Chapter 4: The Storming of East Freeport Shores
Chapter 5: The Path to Highpass Keep


Book 2: The Great Barbarian and Halfling Kingdom

Chapter 1: The Great Battle of Heroes
Chapter 2: The Battle of Blackburrow
Chapter 3: Reclaiming Surefall Glade (Level 30 cap)
--Extended Chapters
Chapter 4: The Path Through The Karanas
Chapter 5: The Battle Over Highpass Keep


Book 3: The Field of Bone War

Chapter 1: The Pit of Sorrow and Tribulations
Chapter 2: The Battle for Kurn's Tower
Chapter 3: Lost in the Swamp of No Hope (Level 40 cap)
--Extended Chapters
Chapter 4: The Path from Warsliks Woods to The Overthere
Chapter 5: The Invasion on Kaesora


Book 4: The Erudite Holy War (Paladins vs Shadowknights)

Chapter 1: Darkness vs Light, The Hunger for Time and Space
Chapter 2: The Rebalancing of Norrath's Reality (Level 50 cap)
Chapter 3: Crossing Over to Qeynos
--Extended Chapters
Chapter 4: Peace from Odus to Faydwer


Book 5: The Great Dragon Wars

Chapter 1: The Great Arms Race (Level 60 cap)
Chapter 2: The Union of the Kingdom's Epics
Chapter 3: Death to the Dragons!!


*EDIT- I forgot this part*

-Race Details-
Races will unlock during specific Chapters of each Book.

Book 1:
Dwarf, Gnome, & Humans will share Kaladim as a Kindgom. Humans are stationed at the Docks.

Wood, Half, & High Elves will share Kelethin as a Kingdom.
(Humans and High Elves will have a teleport stone near their starting area to a location near their Kingdom.



Book 2:

Barbarians and Halflings can be created.
Both races will be bound at the Battle Grounds in Halas.
(A teleport stone will be placed later in another Book*)



Book 3:

Iksar and Dark Elves will share Cabilis as a Kingdom.
Ogres and Trolls will share Kaesora Ruins as a Kingdom.



Book 4:

Erudites will be unlocked. This mini event will yield tradable equipment.
Erudites are able to join any kingdom that they wish.



Dwarves can be Shamans.
Wood Elf can be Shamans.
Half Elf can be Monks and Shadowknights.
High Elf can be Necromancers.



Barbarians can be Monks and Paladins.
Halflings can be Bards.



Ogre can be Rogues, Monks, and Clerics.
Trolls can be Necromancers, Wizards, Enchanters, Magicians, and Clerics.

[Tradesonred]

stuff


Theres a thread where we bounce around ideas for a good ruleset, post in it or it will get lost in 200 pages of "still disappointed"

[Disease]

yea lets build a new red server because if the past 10 years of red server pop has taught us anything, we need to reward them.

This guy pees sitting down, no one takes anything you have to say serious.

[pink grapefruit]

yea lets build a new red server because if the past 10 years of red server pop has taught us anything, we need to reward them.

Hi Zade! <3

You were a cool gm for red.

I know there was a lot of toxicity, but it’s not just the toxic players hoping for a new red server. Hopefully the staff doesn’t think the majority is super toxic. Most of us are just aging EQ nerds hoping to relive the game as we played it on live- with pvp!

[Disease]

Hi Zade! <3

You were a cool gm for red.

I know there was a lot of toxicity, but it’s not just the toxic players hoping for a new red server. Hopefully the staff doesn’t think the majority is super toxic. Most of us are just aging EQ nerds hoping to relive the game as we played it on live- with pvp!

Look up old posts and then ask yourself was he a good gm for red? The server is still hurting from his corruption and inability to care about others feelings. Hopefully he has came down from his p99 GM high horse.

[starkind]

most of us are innocent buttercupflies we love u plz make a new red2.0

copy green

forceenable pvp

[starkind]

Plllzzz

[Gustoo]

where is the rogen plz i beg thread?

[Gustoo]

I made this account in anticipation of the upcoming teams pvp or fresh red server.

*Looks at join date*


...shit

damnnn 2010 not possible wasn't that when red launched?

[Tune]

there are still people playing red 18 hrs per day

why do we need a new server

[Gustoo]

Because some people want to play for fun

Just like blue re-rolled with green, red needs to re-roll with brown.

You can see that the red numbers are super low compared to where they were in kunark and earliest velious. There isn't a lot of reason for someone to get started on red 99 server at the end of velious era with low population - they would rather play on blue or green since there is little to no pvp level 1-55 and it doesn't really make a lot of sense here. Nothing is going to change to pull population back in.

If it was rallos rules there would be low level pvp to participate in.

If it was sullon custom 2 teams there would at least be 1 other whole team that would exist even if in shambles to keep some level of pvp interest happening.

Disappointed.

[pink grapefruit]

RZ/FV crossover ruleset is one potential possibility for a ruleset. All items droppable with item loot.

Still no news of the new server tho... disappointed :(

[starkind]

Who could be possibly hurt by a new red.

[Gustoo]

Who could be possibly hurt by a new red.

That's kinda what everyone has been asking since red's been idle at 90 high count pop for a billion years. If those 90 people wanna keep winning at the flat lined server, that's great and eventually the players that stick with red 2.0 will probably get added to their number.

The trouble is there is no reason to join the pvp server except a tiny bit of pvp pride right now. Little hope of fun until you hit level 60 and even then its such a limited group doing limited things. Hard to wanna get in there as the joys of PVP have always been more about the journey than the level 60 raid scene.

[Rushmore]

this drama is so funny to me

[Tradesonred]

That's kinda what everyone has been asking since red's been idle at 90 high count pop for a billion years. If those 90 people wanna keep winning at the flat lined server, that's great and eventually the players that stick with red 2.0 will probably get added to their number.

The trouble is there is no reason to join the pvp server except a tiny bit of pvp pride right now. Little hope of fun until you hit level 60 and even then its such a limited group doing limited things. Hard to wanna get in there as the joys of PVP have always been more about the journey than the level 60 raid scene.

Im sure alot of people are in my position. I dont play not because of the low numbers, but because EQ is a substancial time investment and since we dont know wtf is the game plan, i dont wanna play for the next 3 months only to be told that red is going to get archived in some form and i have to start over on a new server.

If the new server is never going to happen, a considerate staff would just come out and say that it will never happen. Im sorry to bitch again about this but like always, very little consideration is given to players, kept in the dark till the last minute IE if they dont like it they can just fuck off. Like just for the sake of the red active population it would be a good thing to update us on what is the game plan here or just tell us we havent taken a decision yet, anything. Its been like that since the start.

[Gustoo]

Agreed Tradesonred on all points except that I wouldn't personally play red because of lack of fun.

Others would consider it though, if staff said "there will never be another pvp server, this is it forever, play it or not, we're gunna leave it up for as long as the project survives" it would give it good boost potential and all the guys seeking BIS on 80 person server will feel vindicated for their efforts.

[A Knight]

Disappointed.

Can I just be a complainy person not thinking of all the facts, and ask for two pvp servers. So I can keep all my gear?

Also, for those who enjoy Rallos, when was fear removed from pvp? Was it classic? Not classic?

Added later: It was removed right?

[Fame]

#57

Thread is a year old 9/14/2020

[Gustoo]

Disappointed.

Can I just be a complainy person not thinking of all the facts, and ask for two pvp servers. So I can keep all my gear?

Also, for those who enjoy Rallos, when was fear removed from pvp? Was it classic? Not classic?

Added later: It was removed right?

It was removed -pretty- early but not right away.

Things that were removed early

1. Fear
2. Held item loot (melees were too gimp without weapons)

Then with luclin? they made pvp start at level 6 and item loot start at level 10 which was pretty lame too.

[A Knight]

I can agree with removing fear. It would be nice though to remove all rules, just so we can have a server that requires zero effort from GMs. Except I like loot and scoot, not sure how that could be enforced without a GM but it would be an interesting idea.

[Gustoo]

Yeah. I'm disappointed too.

[starkind]

.

[Tradesonred]

Saturday night would play a fresh server.

Population: 41

Signing out for now

[Gustoo]

disappointed early morning

[Swish]

Checking in

[Gustoo]

Full disappointment today keep up the good work gang.

[Disease]

Full disappointment today keep up the good work gang.

Check blue discord last night, you guys got your answer. I'm quitting until then because at this point it's a waste of time. Hopefully a new ruleset is announced in the coming days

[Nahuelco]

What happened in that Discord?

The P99 had some stuff going on as usual.

[Disease]

What happened in that Discord?

The P99 had some stuff going on as usual.

Use search feature and type red99 it's over an hour of chat.

[Kief]

Sounds like we're going to get a new server since the current state of things are a waste of resources and money for both Rogean and those that donate.

Brad bless you Rogdog. Thanks man.

[Gustoo]

Check blue discord last night, you guys got your answer. I'm quitting until then because at this point it's a waste of time. Hopefully a new ruleset is announced in the coming days

Thanks for the good news.

Someone want to make a post in the forum with a quote from the discord?

I'm a full on luddite when it comes to discord and won't be going into discord to find this. Is discord a message board or a goddamn VOIP program? I'm not gunna find out.

Really excited about red but im just gunna pretend nothing was announced.

[Gustoo]

I actually made an account and just got mental illness enhancements from that devil inspired social media style shitpile of a messageboard format.

Any assistance is greatly appreciated before I go in there and take more mental damage. I did see someone say red is good people.

[Keiran]

So, that was a bunch of bs I guess?

This is my first post, that's how disappointed I am.

[Gustoo]

The best I can tell is that whoever said something in the affirmative was talking about making a red discord channel which is like...just like a red messageboard we already have but in a stream of consciousness spam format?

Red 2 is already promised AND rogean can't stop talking about it AND other things. If I didn't think it would happen I wouldn't be click clacking away over here.

But yeah heart goes out to you Keiran for the disappoint.

[pink grapefruit]

My hopes were all the way up when I read that! :(

[starkind]

Keep fighting fellow elves.

P99 cannot go down as the elf project that didnt have a red 2.0

There will be a new red 2.0

[Nahuelco]

I was thrilled for a moment. To experience the infamous Red's class era and to see an army of Level 1s bashing each other during the first week.

If we're waiting for Green to reset, wouldn't it be harder to manage multiple fresh servers? (I was looking at the Guides section and didn't see any for Red)

[Disease]

Big announcements going down on discord. Please don't forget to donate to support the high costs of running this project. Let's kick off another 20 years of everquest!

[Tunabros]

notice how it's only like drug users and trans people who want a new red 2.0

[Nahuelco]

It's all about having a good time!

[Disease]

notice how it's only like drug users and trans people who want a new red 2.0

Are all red players gay bashers? Welcome to 2021 you masculine prick!

[Tradesonred]

Someone post the discord stuff plz. Im on a potato for a month or 2 still and discord fucks my potato. If i start playing on the potato i might carry it to the beast if red gets to finally thrive.

[Gustoo]

I was thrilled for a moment. To experience the infamous Red's class era and to see an army of Level 1s bashing each other during the first week.

If we're waiting for Green to reset, wouldn't it be harder to manage multiple fresh servers? (I was looking at the Guides section and didn't see any for Red)

We’re not waiting for green to reset first we are waiting for green to run out of steam before red 2 starts and then start blue 3 when red 2 is winding down and people are ready to progress again.

[Gustoo]

Someone post the discord stuff plz. Im on a potato for a month or 2 still and discord fucks my potato. If i start playing on the potato i might carry it to the beast if red gets to finally thrive.

There’s nothing on discord just a troll sorry bud

[Nahuelco]

I see, I figured Green was reaching its EoL patches soon.

Then they would have to merge QoL modules from Green's source to Red.

My hats off to you P99 team!

[starkind]

.

[Shac]

https://wiki.project1999.com/Summon_Drink

[Nahuelco]

Stay thirsty my friends

[Gustoo]

disappointed today but happy with life otherwise.

[Nahuelco]

https://imgur.com/t/funny/WA9lN

[Swish]

^

[starkind]

https://i.imgur.com/dQablNH.jpg

[Tradesonred]

We need some news, come on! lol

Like i started on green just for shits and giggles and thought about being dumped on blue and stopped at level 4. I got a bunch of chars on red id actually play if wed just get some piece of info about the situation. I dont wanna roll an alt to 45 to be told well, red 2.0, see ya in month! I only got so much neckbeard juice in me.

[Nahuelco]

Here's to some future Gfay action!

[Gustoo]

I got my level 12 spells memmed hanging out underneath kelethin bank ready to / assist you on druid who just hit level 8 at orc hill on a bank run. LMK when you're ready to roll.

[Tradesonred]

ALL the dungeons and dragons online quest packs are FREE till the end of the year and you can get the only content thats not included there for peanuts!

Just redeem the code: DDOQUESTS2021

Id rather be playing a fresh red server but you know

[Gustoo]

disappointed.

[starkind]

Page 86 of major disappointment :(

[Nahuelco]

Not mad or disappointed, just bored.

[Swish]

Post #854

[Foxcat]

Purple server 2023

[Maiten]

Since we're talking about colors..

RGB for our displays.

CMY for our printers.

Yellow for the casuals.
Cyan for the raiders.
Magenta for the pvp.

[Maiten]

*insert office space reference*

[starkind]

https://i.imgur.com/X6v8hZP.png

[Disease]

https://i.imgur.com/X6v8hZP.png

Jesus a latitude 7350 LOL.

[starkind]

Jesus a latitude 7350 LOL.

https://i.imgur.com/1HSxG3V.png

The Latitude 13 7000 Series is the world’s most secure 2-in-1 device, combining a lightweight business Ultrabook™ and a detachable 13-inch tablet in one powerful device without compromise.

perfekt for drawing animes and plenty powerful for everquest!

:p

but ya lawl :cool:

https://i.imgur.com/XtKL14a.jpeg

[Disease]

https://i.imgur.com/1HSxG3V.png



perfekt for drawing animes and plenty powerful for everquest!

:p

but ya lawl :cool:

https://i.imgur.com/XtKL14a.jpeg

Your selling point is that it's the most secure? Go get a job and a real computer. Jeff bezos will let you do monthly payments to help you out.

[Gustoo]

Disappointed this morning thanks for the hard work everyone + devs we'll get there soon together.

[A Knight]

Disappointed.

[s71ck]

hi

[Jimjam]

Saw a R99 number plate on a car and resisted PVPing them.

Current server is appreciated. New server would be appreciated even more greatly 👍.

[starkind]

...

[Swish]

Checking in.

[Gustoo]

Disappointed

[JayDee]

88 pages

[Gustoo]

Thanks for posting fellow disappointeds

[Maiten]

What if casting lull/calm would put the opponent in a "drunk state" where the screen is slightly blurry and movement is sporadic.

Mem blur could cause them to lose their target.

Fear could have them spam random skills/spells. A combination of fight or flight.

Ideas make me feel a bit better.

[Tradesonred]

Ill take anything at this point

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWutmIaNv-o

[Gustoo]

Disappointed.

Ideas belong in a different thread this is an archive of disappointment.

[Tunabros]

eq pvp was never fun

hope this helps

[Gustoo]

eq pvp was never fun

hope this helps

??

The people that had fun thought it was fun. I thought it was fun.

Blue servers exist for people that like to wait in lines for stuff and have people e-flexing their rules lawyer skills on them while permacamping mid tier items for platinum gains indefinitely.

[starkind]

..

[Tassador]

What tuna means is that most people like irl would rather flaunt items than use them. Either way could never play blue the stench of loser would putrid through my monitor and that’s after playing with the insane asylum misfits on red.

[Gustoo]

True, can’t play blue. If everyone was role playing like heroes it might be possible but beta pharming pixel lust psychos that I can’t slay hurts a lot

[Gustoo]

What?! Very surprised not to see any update today.

[starkind]

Should be daily updates.

Time to clone eqpvp and make an mmo set in The Death Gate Cycle universe.

[Swish]

Saw this at the top of the screen so came to check in.

[starkind]

New page. Even newer disappointment.

[Gustoo]

disappointed

[Shac]

Not mad or disappointed, just bored.

[Nahuelco]

I'd normally post this in EST, but not anymore!

[starkind]

Feeling really nostalgic for red 2 day.

[Rienko1099]

Maybe there's something in the works afterall - there's a locked Rogean Test Server on the list

[Gustoo]

Rogean and team are committed to red 2.0 there are many reasons it hasn't been released yet but we can be sure that it is the next project 1999 server.

Complaints about communication frequency are still valid but p99 staff ready to throw out another pvp server.

[Tradesonred]

Rogean and team are committed to red 2.0 there are many reasons it hasn't been released yet but we can be sure that it is the next project 1999 server.

Complaints about communication frequency are still valid but p99 staff ready to throw out another pvp server.

I hope so. I would guess the reason im not banned after all these years is staff realises im being constructive, if a bit too abrasive at times. I would love for the new server to work, at least as much as an EQemu ever will in 2021. Hopefully they do read the shit we post as feedback, even though we cant tell.

At this point just making a new one without the year1 xp loss debacle, nothing more, would do it. Things like no location in the YT, a Rallos-type server would help, but ill even play a Tallon/whatev one even though i think people will get griefed out like i explained in the feedback thread.

[Imago]

I'm looking forward to whatever they put together for a Red 2.0. Would love to be a part of the conversation about server rules beforehand, but either way I'll be there.

[Gustoo]

Agreed

[starkind]

more pages of dissapointment but a lot of hope

[Jimjam]

don’t stop believing

[Tradesonred]

Logged on red out of desperation. I admit. Would be cool to make a new server just for the sake of a healthier 1.0 box once 2.0 pop gets dumped on it after velious.

[Tassador]

Logged on red out of desperation of what? You flamed the staff and quit this thing like 90 times bro ham.

Might be time to seek frands for another game. Wishing you well

-Tass

[starkind]

u r mad tassador probably why your desperately posting in this thread for attention and a new red2.0 u know u would play if it happened do not deny it

[Tassador]

I’d play.

[Jimjam]

I’d play.

Qft

[Tradesonred]

Logged on red out of desperation of what? You flamed the staff and quit this thing like 90 times bro ham.

Might be time to seek frands for another game. Wishing you well

-Tass

I "flamed" the staff by giving constructive criticism. I quit 2 times, one time when xp loss in pvp brought down numbers to single digit at nite during classic. When they finally listened to me and changed it, people came back, me included. When sirken/staff nerfed xp during Kunark and half the server quit, me included, I quit the second time. Now id like to play again, and im playing again, tentatively. Hope this helps (TM)

[starkind]

Still disappointed even tho like 20 ppl want to try making a junkbox on their own too.

Would still be nice to see a real purple 99 or red 2.0

[Gustoo]

Yeah disappointed.

Still some good folks putting in the hours.

I’d love for blue to be a legacy server where newer servers cycle into it. It would be more reason to play blue today knowing more pals will come in the future.

[Shac]

we should make reds on green

[starkind]

Yep

[watbab]

I think I abandoned hope today

[Jimjam]

we should make reds on green

Am playing one. My lvl 5 rogue is undefeated in pvp. Come at me.

[Jibartik]

Only a few more years until there is no electrical grid.

[JayDee]

we should make reds on green

reds to green while blues on red

[starkind]

Ya. Going to go red. On green.

[Rienko1099]

jimjam what's your rogue's name on green?

IMMORTAL OUTLAWS RECRUITING ALL REDS ON GREEN

[Gustoo]

I think I abandoned hope today

I was looking for your I beg post the other day but couldn’t find it

[Tradesonred]

Yeah disappointed.

Still some good folks putting in the hours.

I’d love for blue to be a legacy server where newer servers cycle into it. It would be more reason to play blue today knowing more pals will come in the future.

lol i thought thats how it worked and the only reason im playing red cuz i said to myself well at least if 2.0 comes out the hours i put on red recently are not for nothing. Ill eventually be able to play all these characters on the same server. So i guess red 1.0 will be forever dead? Just killed my motivation instantly. Like not only forever dead but if 2.0 ever comes out it will be deader than dead. Like probably perma single-digit.

[Gustoo]

Actually I meant to say red 1.0 in my other post. If 2.0 was coming or came out the 1.0 could expect friends and in the long run their solo grind to the top would have some value, they’d have people to show off their BIS collection too.

If 2.0 never comes then it’s just them and 20 people sad story style forever

[starkind]

New red asap

[starkind]

Introducing the Red Green Initiative!!!! (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3387009#post3387009)

[Tradesonred]

Actually I meant to say red 1.0 in my other post. If 2.0 was coming or came out the 1.0 could expect friends and in the long run their solo grind to the top would have some value, they’d have people to show off their BIS collection too.

If 2.0 never comes then it’s just them and 20 people sad story style forever

Im confused here and important since i just rolled an alt on red last week. Does anyone know for a fact that green will never be dumped on blue and they are meant to be separate server forever? Cuz if thats how they do it, i have no interest in continuing to play red. I only played in the frame of mind that i will roll a necro comes 2.0 if it ever comes and eventually (like 3 years) my chars on 2.0 will be dumped on 1.0.

It would do these things: Let me play red while i wait to get reacquainted with the mechanics. Make the time on 1.0 not wasted since when the 2.0 pop gets dumped there, it means an influx of new population and a healthier 1.0 once that happens. If 2.0 never happens, then at least its possible the pop numbers in the long run will go up as more people join.

But if 2.0 isnt dumped, then 1.0 is doomed to have its pop dead. I guess it would be ok, but it means im stopping to play right away and bad for the pop health of 1.0. In fact, not knowing means im stopping right away. It really sucks this info isnt pinned somewhere, i feel bad for all these people slugging it out on red after all these years.

Like the bad clincher is they are not letting know if the players investing all this time on 1.0 are doing it for nothing, because if a server ever comes out thats not getting dumped then they might as well be playing EQ on a non-internet server at home because thats the likely outcome of a new non-dumped server. Logging in to nobody after spending years building their characters. Thats the major part i critiqued the staff here over the years, the lack of consideration for peoples time. I assumed red 2.0 was getting dumped because it seems like the only solid option, but thinking back, i could see xp loss was terrible on day1 and they didnt see it, didnt listen when it was obvious it was bad for obvious reasons and let red rot till pop dipped to single digit. Seems like things havent changed much around here.

[Gustoo]

The original 100 officially announced and indicated plan by staff was that green would dump to blue.

After launch some green psychopaths asked for that never to happen presumably for double pharming RMT operations and other ill intentions because there is no good guy reason for not combining green and blue once green has exhausted its timeline.

(You are allowed to play both servers at the same time right now)

Staff has not made commitment either way at this time saying they reserve the right to do it however they want.

Red players are not so brain dead but I could see red 2.0 not wanting to combine with 1.0 because of rule set differences but I think it should combine anyways and just reset so we can keep a fresh n fun server all the time instead of stale n dead.

[starkind]

Having multliple servers to play on is super nice Gustoo. I agree about the pharming OPS tho. it's a double edged sword

It is totally safe to combine red 1.0 to any server because you can toggle pvp at any time at priest of order and discord so will never lose your option to pvp

[Tradesonred]

Red players are not so brain dead but I could see red 2.0 not wanting to combine with 1.0 because of rule set differences but I think it should combine anyways and just reset so we can keep a fresh n fun server all the time instead of stale n dead.

Like, context matters. Red is almost dead. Its only hope is that a new non-dumped server never happens and that pop slowly picks up.

It just boggles the mind that they would say 2 years ago that a new server is coming, not say anything leaving the players of 1.0 in limbo as to the fate of their server. Not even say dumped, non-dumped as to not leave people to grind for weeks to come out on top to "new server out in a month, bang your server is dead".

I assumed it would be dumped just as i assumed in 2011 that red would be Rallos reborn. I shouldnt assume these things i guess. I can take comfort in the fact that tassador will still be here in the future when i check back every few months on 2.0 making his passive agressive weasel comments. Thanks buddy.

[Tradesonred]

Having multliple servers to play on is super nice Gustoo. I agree about the pharming OPS tho. it's a double edged sword

It is totally safe to combine red 1.0 to any server because you can toggle pvp at any time at priest of order and discord so will never lose your option to pvp

Like, this is the next best idea. That would save red, but just on the heels of that idea, the blubies will never let it happen. They will bitch and whine about it. Sad cuz it would make the longevity of the pve server extend, letting blue players dabble in pvp without losing the time investment they made on the server. I guess lawyer questing for camps would suck though, never had to deal with it and im probably not grasping just how different it makes EQ.

[starkind]

like, as Kim Jung once said, let them eat black swans

if we are a big raid guild on green 99 and we FTE a mob they can either toggle pvp on or wait till we get our loot

we can pvp and have fun, and there can be another red guild on green 99 I think

This is HOW the original rallos started, it's how grandpa and grandma did it.

[Gustoo]

I’m confused.

I think the best format is a permanent stagnant end of velious server and a new fresh server running through a lifecycle that in the end is added to the original server.

Green flows to blue
Brown flows to red

4 servers up. One aged and complete and one living out its life.

The aged servers always have a pending population boost of people about to join who may or may not wanna live the progression over again.

So they grow slowly.

[starkind]

I’m confused.

I think the best format is a permanent stagnant end of velious server and a new fresh server running through a lifecycle that in the end is added to the original server.

Green flows to blue
Brown flows to red

4 servers up. One aged and complete and one living out its life.

The aged servers always have a pending population boost of people about to join who may or may not wanna live the progression over again.

So they grow slowly.

oh ya, that'd be the perfect world.

Seriously I enjoy vanilla caps 1-50, wish there was a vanilla RPpvP server (thats what I would make)

[reebz]

Wow Ecoli that was very sad to read. There will never be a red 2.0 and red 1.0 will be dead. No one's coming back LOL

[JayDee]

Im confused here and important since i just rolled an alt on red last week. Does anyone know for a fact that green will never be dumped on blue and they are meant to be separate server forever? Cuz if thats how they do it, i have no interest in continuing to play red. I only played in the frame of mind that i will roll a necro comes 2.0 if it ever comes and eventually (like 3 years) my chars on 2.0 will be dumped on 1.0.

It would do these things: Let me play red while i wait to get reacquainted with the mechanics. Make the time on 1.0 not wasted since when the 2.0 pop gets dumped there, it means an influx of new population and a healthier 1.0 once that happens. If 2.0 never happens, then at least its possible the pop numbers in the long run will go up as more people join.

But if 2.0 isnt dumped, then 1.0 is doomed to have its pop dead. I guess it would be ok, but it means im stopping to play right away and bad for the pop health of 1.0. In fact, not knowing means im stopping right away. It really sucks this info isnt pinned somewhere, i feel bad for all these people slugging it out on red after all these years.

Like the bad clincher is they are not letting know if the players investing all this time on 1.0 are doing it for nothing, because if a server ever comes out thats not getting dumped then they might as well be playing EQ on a non-internet server at home because thats the likely outcome of a new non-dumped server. Logging in to nobody after spending years building their characters. Thats the major part i critiqued the staff here over the years, the lack of consideration for peoples time. I assumed red 2.0 was getting dumped because it seems like the only solid option, but thinking back, i could see xp loss was terrible on day1 and they didnt see it, didnt listen when it was obvious it was bad for obvious reasons and let red rot till pop dipped to single digit. Seems like things havent changed much around here.

Sounds like you're concerned about pixel accumulation. Otherwise why not start fresh and have fun on a bustling server. If you're tortured on red, dont play. Also, people like you lingering around is the reason a 2.0 has not and may never come. Rogaen would be more inclined to consider it if he saw a big fat 0 next to population on home screen

[Tradesonred]

Sounds like you're concerned about pixel accumulation. Otherwise why not start fresh and have fun on a bustling server. If you're tortured on red, dont play. Also, people like you lingering around is the reason a 2.0 has not and may never come. Rogaen would be more inclined to consider it if he saw a big fat 0 next to population on home screen

You misinterpret what im saying. Besides last week where i started an alt, i havent played in about 5 years. Im more concerned about the... lack of concern for people who keep playing there, when i realised it wasnt sure 2.0 was getting dumped if it ever happens. The ideal scenario would be a fresh 2.0 server dumped on 1.0 at the end of its life cycle. Thats what im pushing for really.

But not knowing wether or not the new server (if it ever happens) will be dumped is preventing me from enjoying playing on red. I dont know how everyone else is doing it, they must not grasp these problems, or like you said, addicted to pixels.

This is just like why i quit back in Kunark and with xp loss. I didnt trust the staff to care about the time people put into this. Im not gonna play 1.0 not knowing if the effort i put in to play a new alt is going to be for nothing when a new non-dumped server comes out. Like i could grind for 2 months, get my alt to 60, get settled to play end game and then a new server comes out (a non-dumped one, which will kill 1.0). Im not going to do that, like seriously. Expecting people to do that is im sorry to say par for the course for how they treat their players here since day 1.

So just like i guess they dont owe us anything, they are also not owed a healthy populated server which people wanna play on because they trust the staff and the road they are taking. If they want to do the bare minimum possible and throw a pvp server down once every 10 years, put it in maintenance / no communication mode like this is how its gonna be, fuck your feedback if you dont like it fuck off, well people are going to take a hint and fuck off.

[Kokkusho]

.

[Gustoo]

Disappointed this day

[Swish]

I felt optimistic for a moment.

[Shac]

y

https://i.imgur.com/HKwhiIT.gif

[Rienko1099]

rogain just wants to get red 2.0 right, that's why his test server is still locked. Have faith!

[Gustoo]

I believe it. Rogains getting it dialed testing water dance mechanics etc thanks
Big boss

[starkind]

The Red Green 1.5 Initiative is still 'cruiten!! (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=394647)

Two guilds to pick from!
<Misunderstood> (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=394666)
And
<Immortal Outlaws> (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=394629)

Remember u can switch between pvp whenever you want in qeynos! and you can also keep a red99 character on the hotseat ready to launch at a dragon while you run around and contest newbie mobs in bronze and combine weapons!

rogain just wants to get red 2.0 right, that's why his test server is still locked. Have faith!



I believe it. Rogains getting it dialed testing water dance mechanics etc thanks
Big boss

I actually do believe this too. That's why its The Red Green 1.5 initiative, just a temporary solution until then!

[Gustoo]

We also underestimate how long it takes to do whatever work is needed to make custom hard coded teams and any kinda custom they might need to do (however small) for next gen pvp server.

Have faith.

(I might roll a paladin so I gotta get into it)

[starkind]

Real pvp happend on a fresh 1.5 box

Get ur boddies ready folks!!!

https://i.imgur.com/vfyqdCc.png

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https://i.imgur.com/DzDGFzf.png

gReen99 1.5 guys!!!

[Gustoo]

Encouraged but still disappointed.

[starkind]

Disappointed. Cuz it'd be nice for starkind 2.0 to live forever and go to either red 1.0 or green when that time for red 3.0 comes..

Wishing you all well and thank you again for 10 really awesome pvp years! I don't care what other people say.

Ya'll did a great job.

[Swish]

No exciting news today.

[starkind]

..

[Tradesonred]

We also underestimate how long it takes to do whatever work is needed to make custom hard coded teams and any kinda custom they might need to do (however small) for next gen pvp server.

Have faith.

(I might roll a paladin so I gotta get into it)

Why would you have faith though? Like what are the reasons behind that faith? The least they could do is pop in here and say yea were still working on it itll be ready when itll be ready. This thread is what, one year old?

This is whats getting me bitter and again making me doubt i should invest time on the new server (if it ever comes). It feels like nothings changed, that they havent learned anything about early red debacle.

2.0 might be abandoned, it might not be abandoned, but one things for sure:
Theyre not going to take 2 minutes to update the playerbase on it.

[A Knight]

Sad Sad news. I hope Red lasts forever. Would love a Red 2.0. I'm trying to play to add one more Pop, but IRL problems are too big right now. Still can't get past log in screen.

/shrugs, just trying to add one more Pop.

[Gustoo]

Red 1.0 eventually came after years of what were essentially begging.

Blue release to Green release was X years (i don't know how many) maybe Red release to Red 2.0 release will be the same number of years. Maybe these guys like symmetry.

I just really like good quality EQ PVP and outside of winning the lottery I don't see a better way to make it happen than to hope that p99 staff makes the effort to host a second pvp server, with some attention to additional detail that have been discussed ad nauseum.

We've discussed the pvp ruleset, the expansion issues, the legacy item issues, the clicky item issues, the bow damage issues

Most have easy fixes and even if aren't fixed perfectly will be worth giving the whole experiment a second go.

Actually I just thought of a hybrid ruleset I hadn't considered.

Nilbog's 2 teams, infinite PVP range, Item loot with 4 lvl pvp range.

If any OOR does any damage to a slain player at all, the player is not lootable.

Buffs have 10 level range so OOR buffs can't be used for murdering.

This opens the possibility of twink hunting while still allowing some security for players, and the fact that an enemy twink can be corpse camped by a high level logged out nearby.

Say the east siders had a level 60 or 2 defending unrest, you might get a couple buddies to go attack said level 60 defenders of unrest, and then attack with your twink PK the enemy teams players trying to level.

Win win. More reasons to battle with even more strategies. The idea is to incentivize low level PVP which is my favorite part of the game, versus totally de-incentivize it like we had with red 1.0.

The unlimited PVP range is the ULTIMATE de-incentive to low level PVP or at least player killer activities, but at least it doesn't allow twink PK's to exist strictly for the sake of getting their jollies from causing grief.

But basically any pvp enabled ruleset that is substantially different from our existing ruleset would be fun to try.

Teams PVP with no item loot and limited pvp level range would be the worst possible 2nd pvp server and I probably wouldn't play.

[starkind]

You have become better at begging! (6)

[Tassador]

Guaranteed nobody is reading that hunk of junk. Starting to think you’re a real dirt bag.

[starkind]

You have become better at being mad! (28)

[Jimjam]

I love long posts. Short posts rafely have sufficient cpntrnt tp wrrant reading. Don’t stop being uou Gusoo.

[starkind]

You have become better at posting! (3)

[Swish]

^

[Gustoo]

Disappointed 12-10-21

[starkind]

Disappointed 12-10-21

You have become better at disappointment! (69)

[New_Guy]

After all my many wasted years of gaming I would still have to say everquest pvp was the best of all time. Don't know why anyone would even play blue.

[ArcaneCognition]

i went and played on gansta's RoT and it was amazing, the pvp was fun. there wasn't end game de-leveled characters to mess with you for no reason. we had group against group fights. why can't we have that on a stable server that's run by people who know what they are doing and will still be there 6 months later. :confused:

[Swish]

Just thought I'd drop by.

[starkind]

Red 2.0

Would be better than red 1.0

And blue and green.

Imagine how cool mages would be for the first month of red 2.0

[Gustoo]

Disappointed today. Imagine a lack of disappointment.

[Imago]

I heard Rogean was waiting for this thread to hit 100 pages before his long awaited announcement of Red 2.0 with a next day release.

I'm doing my part.

[Tewaz]

I still think teams is the answer.

[starkind]

I'm super duper cool with rpvp-teams-firiona hybrid.

[New_Guy]

I'm super duper cool with rpvp-teams-firiona hybrid.

Sullon Rules would work better for this server but not enough player's for 3 teams, better to go with two.

On Sullon players used the factions to lock down area's, like the newts all boosted Rivervale Faction and claimed Misty Thicket. While the Evils ruled Freeport and Netkulos.
Goods took over Faydark and Butcherblock.

If they coded the factions just like they did on Sullon so whoever had the higher faction the guards helped, you'd see some awesome map division and player strongholds like we saw there.

[Swish]

I'd try it.

[Gustoo]

Sullon Rules would work better for this server but not enough player's for 3 teams, better to go with two.

On Sullon players used the factions to lock down area's, like the newts all boosted Rivervale Faction and claimed Misty Thicket. While the Evils ruled Freeport and Netkulos.
Goods took over Faydark and Butcherblock.

If they coded the factions just like they did on Sullon so whoever had the higher faction the guards helped, you'd see some awesome map division and player strongholds like we saw there.

Factions worked like that on all pvp servers. They were weird here to start but I think they function this way now.

[New_Guy]

Factions worked like that on all pvp servers. They were weird here to start but I think they function this way now.

Yes on live they did, here no, on live if you had Amiable and the other person had kindly the guards would let that person kill you in the middle of town. And if you swung back at any point the guards would rush you.

That plus the hard coded faction teams on Sullon led people to farm faction like gear. Faction farming area's were actively protected by players of that team and cities acted like the Bazaar for that Faction.

I've never seen players divide the world by teams and factions and actively promote that till the day the server died, only on Sullon. This also added an extra dynamic to illusion pots, items and spells allowing players to use them to infiltrate enemy strongholds.

[Gustoo]

Good players or mostly murderers that planned on murdering in cities would ally that faction on rallos, yeah it’s a very good part of pvp eq that means jack shit on blue just another part of the game that’s dead on blue and meaningful on red.

Non pvp is like playing a demo version of the game

[New_Guy]

Good players or mostly murderers that planned on murdering in cities would ally that faction on rallos, yeah it’s a very good part of pvp eq that means jack shit on blue just another part of the game that’s dead on blue and meaningful on red.

Non pvp is like playing a demo version of the game

Most Sullon players were former Rallos players like myself, I choose a Dark Elf wizard of Solusek Ro just so I could kill people inside Neriak. I was also cool in Rivervale but I think I had to farm some faction to get there.

[Gustoo]

Disappointed today

[New_Guy]

Disappointed today

You'll need to revitalize the red forums before you can get a reset, or Rogean will never give a fuck.

And trying to earnestly ask in a professional and conductive manner HERE! Is like trying to sell a black teenager tickets to the Police Annual Fundraisers Ball.

[Gustoo]

I was just trying to stay on theme for this thread.

Thanks for your contributions regarding the revitalization effort.

[Disease]

You'll need to revitalize the red forums before you can get a reset, or Rogean will never give a fuck.

And trying to earnestly ask in a professional and conductive manner HERE! Is like trying to sell a black teenager tickets to the Police Annual Fundraisers Ball.

Talks about being professional and then makes racist jokes. Real classy

[New_Guy]

Talks about being professional and then makes racist jokes. Real classy

Actually a quote from Rick and Morty, only a white racist person would deny police brutality on people of color.

Such a Gyno thing to say.

[starkind]

There's a custom icon for new red on p99 discord.

[New_Guy]

Some people here are allrite. Most people are dumb as bricks though, not being able to distinguish between an appeal to get people to populate a server and an attempt to make friends / brain dead attempt at baiting levels of dumb. In fact its the #1 reason not to play this emulator, when the core pop is its worst enemy, tanking a server's pop.

Yea but that is really on the GM's you have 10 toxic players who are allowed to remain past all sanity of every offense.

We all know who they are, they have all had multiple accounts banned for showEQ, RMT, and they always band together to create a zerg that turns a red server blue and kills the playerbase.

Most of them spew constant racial slurs make anti-sematic guild names and generally make the server toxic. It literally took two years for the GM's to ban the name Holocaust and constant petitions from the playerbase, when it had all the same members from Nihilum and that guild was banned for RMT.

If you have to be convinced by server polls the name Holocaust is anti sematic when it's core players are all magabillies from the south, the problem may not be with the playerbase.

[nottitanuk]

looking forward to the new vztz server until a red99 2.0

a player draft/ranking for the server will be out soon, see you then

[Disease]

looking forward to the new vztz server until a red99 2.0

a player draft/ranking for the server will be out soon, see you then

Make sure you have thick skin, I was gay bashed off their discord and many of the people that are going to play there have been banned and banished from red. Many cheaters as well.

Also note the gms play the server as well. So take it for what it's worth.

[nottitanuk]

Make sure you have thick skin, I was gay bashed off their discord and many of the people that are going to play there have been banned and banished from red. Many cheaters as well.

Also note the gms play the server as well. So take it for what it's worth.

they added some discord mods, most of those people have been banned and will also have anti cheat and anti plug mechanics in place

also how are GMs playing when the server isnt even out yet?

[starkind]

yep

FV

No common language

sullon teams

hardcore trivial loot code

item loot

deflate velious loot tables and enable zones like solc, and add in more cultural stuff/tradeskills

no pnp

[New_Guy]

yep

FV

No common language

sullon teams

hardcore trivial loot code

item loot

deflate velious loot tables and enable zones like solc, and add in more cultural stuff/tradeskills

no pnp

These nerds can't handle dying for an exp death, there is no way they can handle item loot.

Cut it at Kunark or you'll kill PvP for half the classes. Rogean has the spells all coded wrong here it's called bluebie disorder and no empirical knowledge of pvp on live.

You let melee's get PoM flowers and you won't be able to dispel any buffs or land a single spell on them. It will become melee quest, this game wasn't built to achieve Best in slot on every expansion.

[Disease]

they added some discord mods, most of those people have been banned and will also have anti cheat and anti plug mechanics in place

also how are GMs playing when the server isnt even out yet?

Because the gms play eq pvp.... You're trying to sell the idea they just started a server, covering the costs and not playing all out of the kindness of their hearts?

Roz you had gms telling people when mobs were spawning/items they had. You had gms boosting people to 50 with full gear and the list goes on. Just be transparent and people might play.

[starkind]

These nerds can't handle dying for an exp death, there is no way they can handle item loot.

Cut it at Kunark or you'll kill PvP for half the classes. Rogean has the spells all coded wrong here it's called bluebie disorder and no empirical knowledge of pvp on live.

You let melee's get PoM flowers and you won't be able to dispel any buffs or land a single spell on them. It will become melee quest, this game wasn't built to achieve Best in slot on every expansion.

yep lol

[New_Guy]

Because the gms play eq pvp.... You're trying to sell the idea they just started a server, covering the costs and not playing all out of the kindness of their hearts?

Roz you had gms telling people when mobs were spawning/items they had. You had gms boosting people to 50 with full gear and the list goes on. Just be transparent and people might play.

This is 100% True, Red died because Rogean treated it like a toilet, we got the worst most corrupt GM's, the few times a GM would even show up, they showed favoritism, or gave away items for boobies and real life money(Amelinda and Sirken).

And how does he address that fact, by banning anyone who talks about it lol! And never erasing the corrupt decisions they made.

You've can't have blue GM's policing a Red server, they have no clue about PvP or how it works, Sirken legit couldn't even tell when someone was using ShowEQ. He kept requiring evidence when it was plain as day.

Unless someone buys Red off him, I doubt you'll ever get a real server going.

[nottitanuk]

Because the gms play eq pvp.... You're trying to sell the idea they just started a server, covering the costs and not playing all out of the kindness of their hearts?

Roz you had gms telling people when mobs were spawning/items they had. You had gms boosting people to 50 with full gear and the list goes on. Just be transparent and people might play.

okay so your into trolling or have no idea what you are talking about

good talk

[nottitanuk]

1. Must have at least 1 hair on ball before your man enough to play on VZTZ.
2. VZTZ 1.0 Progression Server
a. Kunark will be released 2 weeks after the first guild that slays: Lord Nagafen, Lady Vox, Cazic Thule 2.0, and Innoruuk 2.0.
b. Velious will be released with General AA’s 2 weeks after the first guild that slays: Phara Dar, Druushk, Hoshkar, Nexona, Xygoz, and Silverwing in Veeshans Peek.
c. Luclin will be released 2 weeks after the first guild that slays Vulak'Aerr and awakens and kills Kerafyrm. (Kerafyrm will be balanced for server size and contain loot tables from Avatar of War, Vulak'Aerr and custom items).
3. No level brackets
4. No binding adjacent zones to raid targets, with the exceptions of cities, except where raid targets are located. (i.e., No binding in Kael).
5. Raid targets spawn timer changed from 7 to 3-4 days.
6. /who is not restricted, use /anon if you wish to remain anonymous.
7. Clerics can train Bash at level 6.
8. Pets will zone with you.
9. Players will be limited to 2 boxing.
10. PVP range is +/- 8 levels starting at level 6.
11. Server wide /ooc is disabled until level 6.
a. /ooc will be revoked if you are a toxic player or using foul language, be respectful in /ooc because kids and adults share /ooc. If you want to be nasty, take it to tells or the battlefield. If someone is bothering, you with foul language use /ignore.
12. Solo XP will be decent; however, group XP has a large bonus.
13. Coin Loot only, no item loot.
14. Discord Merchants (PVP) will be available with selected items and spells from other expansions level 40 and lower. (Items on PVP vendors subject to change at any
15. High priority zones will be FFA (Ignore +/-8 level PVP range).
16. Priests of Discord will now offer to bind your soul for free and spend your PVP points for spells and items.
17. PnP (play nice policy) and LNS (loot and scoot) is highly recommended but not enforced. Staff may ignore your request for assistance if you break these guidelines. Do so at your own risk!
18. Cheating and hacking is not permitted and will result in permanent bans for first time offenders. You have been warned and this server is protected with a strong anti-cheat system and anti plug system!
19. Report any bugs to staff ASAP, disciplinary action may be taken for exploiting depending on the situation.
20. Respect the staff, don’t be rude, crude or use foul language, we put up with enough!
21. Class changes may happen at anytime during 1.0 to help balance PVP, where necessary

[Notfame]

#58

Welp they banned me boys. For “racism and bigotry” ?? Lol about 99% of my last posts since 2020 have been counting up to 58 in this thread. That tells me this thread is working.

Hold the line.

[New_Guy]

1. Must have at least 1 hair on ball before your man enough to play on VZTZ.
2. VZTZ 1.0 Progression Server
a. Kunark will be released 2 weeks after the first guild that slays: Lord Nagafen, Lady Vox, Cazic Thule 2.0, and Innoruuk 2.0.

Sullon would be better and Sullon had 10x the population of VZTZ, so it should be the obvious choice not rando server barely anyone played on and was a universal joke to real pvpers.

PVP should be the focus of a PvP server, not pixel quest, expansions should be set to release based on population size. Reach 500 hit Vellious. Reach 800 release Luclin.

Expanding the world without a playerbase is going to hurt PvP and only aid blues.


b. Velious will be released with General AA’s 2 weeks after the first guild that slays: Phara Dar, Druushk, Hoshkar, Nexona, Xygoz, and Silverwing in Veeshans Peek.
c. Luclin will be released 2 weeks after the first guild that slays Vulak'Aerr and awakens and kills Kerafyrm. (Kerafyrm will be balanced for server size and contain loot tables from Avatar of War, Vulak'Aerr and custom items).

If you want to farm a dead server, keep releasing based on what the most powerful team conquers without allowing the rest to catch up.

3. No level brackets
4. No binding adjacent zones to raid targets, with the exceptions of cities, except where raid targets are located. (i.e., No binding in Kael).
5. Raid targets spawn timer changed from 7 to 3-4 days.
6. /who is not restricted, use /anon if you wish to remain anonymous.
7. Clerics can train Bash at level 6.
8. Pets will zone with you.
9. Players will be limited to 2 boxing.
10. PVP range is +/- 8 levels starting at level 6.
11. Server wide /ooc is disabled until level 6.


Most of these are fucktardedly stupid, 2 boxing NOPE because it will turn into 8 boxing and we don't have enough GM's to police everyone who will abuse this. Lvl range is for pussies. You seem vastly more interested in pixel quest than PvP.


a. /ooc will be revoked if you are a toxic player or using foul language, be respectful in /ooc because kids and adults share /ooc. If you want to be nasty, take it to tells or the battlefield. If someone is bothering, you with foul language use /ignore.

Or grow a thicker skin or stick to blue, the population was always the highest when OOC was the most toxic because it drove interaction and engaged the playerbase. Reds don't think like blues and they love to hate.

12. Solo XP will be decent; however, group XP has a large bonus.


So you want to reward zerging which has shown to be the defacto killer of every red box?

13. Coin Loot only, no item loot.
14. Discord Merchants (PVP) will be available with selected items and spells from other expansions level 40 and lower. (Items on PVP vendors subject to change at any
16. Priests of Discord will now offer to bind your soul for free and spend your PVP points for spells and items.
17. PnP (play nice policy) and LNS (loot and scoot) is highly recommended but not enforced. Staff may ignore your request for assistance if you break these guidelines. Do so at your own risk!
18. Cheating and hacking is not permitted and will result in permanent bans for first time offenders. You have been warned and this server is protected with a strong anti-cheat system and anti plug system!
19. Report any bugs to staff ASAP, disciplinary action may be taken for exploiting depending on the situation.

The only good ideas in this shitshow.


20. Respect the staff, don’t be rude, crude or use foul language, we put up with enough!

Fuck you, respect is a two way street go simping for beta cuck of the year award somewhere else. Your guild killed the playerbase before and all your ideas are pro zerg and PvP box killers, stick to blue beta, it's where you belong.

[nottitanuk]

Even tho I disagree with you on almost everything

I do appreciate you taking the time to read and give some feedback, not just some short trolly answer

[New_Guy]

Even tho I disagree with you on almost everything

I do appreciate you taking the time to read and give some feedback, not just some short trolly answer

The problem is your list reads like a Zergers wishlist.

Now lets be real, you were Holocaust, so was I(even though I only joined as an infiltration spy under a new assumed identity) but Holocaust's playstyle was bad for the box.

I'm not saying Azrael was better, they refused to work with others, got hung up on ego trips, and their exclusivity was literally their downfall.

But nothing Holo did was good for a healthy PvP server.

Maybe if you could possibly justify how recruiting 70% of the population into one guild and starving all competition from every single spawn so they couldn't compete was healthy(which most your ideas would boost and not hinder), then we could have a realistic conversation about some of these suggestions.

[nottitanuk]

If you want to play smallman guild pvp, devnoobs zek seasons are for you. Unfortunately Everquest has always been about numbers and playtime. If you are plying with 10 people or less you shouldn’t expect to be on top but that doesn’t mean you can’t have fun and enjoy the server.

I think it’s worth noting what’s the worst that can happen? You don’t enjoy the server for a few weeks and go back to a velious locked one that is never going to change?

I also agree that red99 was gross and not very healthy most of the time

That being said

Recruit and contest you know the #s

[New_Guy]

If you want to play smallman guild pvp, devnoobs zek seasons are for you. Unfortunately Everquest has always been about numbers and playtime. If you are plying with 10 people or less you shouldn’t expect to be on top but that doesn’t mean you can’t have fun and enjoy the server.

I think it’s worth noting what’s the worst that can happen? You don’t enjoy the server for a few weeks and go back to a velious locked one that is never going to change?

I also agree that red99 was gross and not very healthy most of the time

That being said

Recruit and contest you know the #s

So your goal is to play in a manner that would kill the playerbase on your server, that is why your suggestions are shit.

I hate to break it to you, but people with your mindset is what makes the server toxic. You are afraid to engage in PvP so you need massive advantages to compete, you are blue masquerading as a red and your only concern is pixelquest.

[Israel Adesanya]

Hello are we still waiting on red 99 2.0 updates? Thanks in advance.

[nottitanuk]

So your goal is to play in a manner that would kill the playerbase on your server, that is why your suggestions are shit.

I hate to break it to you, but people with your mindset is what makes the server toxic. You are afraid to engage in PvP so you need massive advantages to compete, you are blue masquerading as a red and your only concern is pixelquest.

1. These are not my suggestions, they are the rules on if the server. I don’t care what the rules are I’ll play whatever the meta is
2. Play or don’t


Enjoy

[drilemcbit]

Yea but that is really on the GM's you have 10 toxic players who are allowed to remain past all sanity of every offense.

We all know who they are, they have all had multiple accounts banned for showEQ, RMT, and they always band together to create a zerg that turns a red server blue and kills the playerbase.

Most of them spew constant racial slurs make anti-sematic guild names and generally make the server toxic. It literally took two years for the GM's to ban the name Holocaust and constant petitions from the playerbase, when it had all the same members from Nihilum and that guild was banned for RMT.

If you have to be convinced by server polls the name Holocaust is anti sematic when it's core players are all magabillies from the south, the problem may not be with the playerbase.

You seem like a joy to be around

[Gustoo]

Hello are we still waiting on red 99 2.0 updates? Thanks in advance.

[EatitNerd]

These nerds can't handle dying for an exp death, there is no way they can handle item loot.

Cut it at Kunark or you'll kill PvP for half the classes. Rogean has the spells all coded wrong here it's called bluebie disorder and no empirical knowledge of pvp on live.

You let melee's get PoM flowers and you won't be able to dispel any buffs or land a single spell on them. It will become melee quest, this game wasn't built to achieve Best in slot on every expansion.

This will not be a problem on vztz since expansions will be unlocked once the previous has been conquered (velious unlocked 2 weeks after all VP raid mobs have been killed for instance)

[EatitNerd]

Sullon would be better and Sullon had 10x the population of VZTZ, so it should be the obvious choice not rando server barely anyone played on and was a universal joke to real pvpers.

PVP should be the focus of a PvP server, not pixel quest, expansions should be set to release based on population size. Reach 500 hit Vellious. Reach 800 release Luclin.

Expanding the world without a playerbase is going to hurt PvP and only aid blues.



If you want to farm a dead server, keep releasing based on what the most powerful team conquers without allowing the rest to catch up.


Most of these are fucktardedly stupid, 2 boxing NOPE because it will turn into 8 boxing and we don't have enough GM's to police everyone who will abuse this. Lvl range is for pussies. You seem vastly more interested in pixel quest than PvP.



Or grow a thicker skin or stick to blue, the population was always the highest when OOC was the most toxic because it drove interaction and engaged the playerbase. Reds don't think like blues and they love to hate.


So you want to reward zerging which has shown to be the defacto killer of every red box?


The only good ideas in this shitshow.



Fuck you, respect is a two way street go simping for beta cuck of the year award somewhere else. Your guild killed the playerbase before and all your ideas are pro zerg and PvP box killers, stick to blue beta, it's where you belong.

Oh you’re one of those trolls that don’t actually want a pvp server, got it now, lost cause. Sorry you got griefed off red even with a PNP

[hatelore]

I personally am holding out for P1999 Red VR. My mace has been polished and quality checked. Can't wait!

[Bhairava]

if everybody in the thread deleted their toons and rerolled together it would be like a new server

[nottitanuk]

if everybody in the thread deleted their toons and rerolled together it would be like a new server

You first

Or start on a fresh one when the opportunity comes

[New_Guy]

Oh you’re one of those trolls that don’t actually want a pvp server, got it now, lost cause. Sorry you got griefed off red even with a PNP

Your butthurt is better than anything Santa could bring me.

[Tradesonred]

This will not be a problem on vztz since expansions will be unlocked once the previous has been conquered (velious unlocked 2 weeks after all VP raid mobs have been killed for instance)

Thats not how you run a server, catering to the top 1% who will like, buy 200$ worth of speed before the server launches to be able to stay up 18h's a day for weeks to poopquest unlock the next pixel shower.

[New_Guy]

Oh you’re one of those trolls that don’t actually want a pvp server, got it now, lost cause. Sorry you got griefed off red even with a PNP

Dude aren't you Shadowlamp? The guy with a box record of 71 deaths and zero kills?

Asking you about what works in PvP is like asking Woody Allen to be a football coach.

Every blue's answer to what works on a PvP server is to cater to the zerg and increase pixelquesting, the one thing that has shown 100% chance of killing the box 100% of the time. We've tried that 5 times now and we know without a doubt it kills the population, trying it a 6th time won't change the results.

[EatitNerd]

Dude aren't you Shadowlamp? The guy with a box record of 71 deaths and zero kills?

Asking you about what works in PvP is like asking Woody Allen to be a football coach.

Every blue's answer to what works on a PvP server is to cater to the zerg and increase pixelquesting, the one thing that has shown 100% chance of killing the box 100% of the time. We've tried that 5 times now and we know without a doubt it kills the population, trying it a 6th time won't change the results.

No idea who that is, so no, not me. You can try again but you already know your posts are BS, I don’t really need to convince you of that.

[New_Guy]

No idea who that is, so no, not me. You can try again but you already know your posts are BS, I don’t really need to convince you of that.

LOL you're Shadowlamp of Apex your KDR is a box record of 71 deaths 0 kills.

I literally ran into you and 5 friends, one of which was an epic mage, killed you and the mage and gated out oom, while spamming /laugh and /flex in your friends faces. And you've been playing here for 8 years longer than me, I played like a max of 2 years here and dunked all over you, it was like Jordan playing a handicapped midget

The only time you're allowed to open your mouth about PvP is when I put my junk in it. And pray I don't come back or I will shut that pretty lil mouth for good.