Post here every time you are disappointed by no Red 2.0 news

[Fame]

Has to be at least my 200th disappointing visit to these forums.
Starting a with a clean slate.

Disappointment: #1

[Jibartik]

I cant imagine that we are going to get a red server before we even made it to kunark on their 10 years worth of hard work fresh server.

[Kief]

The real question that should be asked is: "Why Rogean, are you catering to the 10 people that still log into the Red server? Instead of the 100+ that are interested in a new one?"

It is kinda strange but I imagine the people left playing are just more respectful toward him than the loud-mouth folks like Lite and co. that just are flat out rude to him.

Rather see 10 people that are good folks get to play what they enjoy as opposed to 100 that are assholes.

Just sayin' Fame bro!

[Krazy/sickpuppy]

The real question that should be asked is: "Why Rogean, are you catering to the 10 people that still log into the Red server? Instead of the 100+ that are interested in a new one?"

It is kinda strange but I imagine the people left playing are just more respectful toward him than the loud-mouth folks like Lite and co. that just are flat out rude to him.

Rather see 10 people that are good folks get to play what they enjoy as opposed to 100 that are assholes.

Just sayin' Fame bro!

It’s easier to let the current red run it’s course and not reset it like he said . And seem like a hero then it is to manage a fresh server .

[Castle2.0]

"Why Rogean, are you catering to the 10 people that still log into the Red server? Instead of the 100+ that are interested in a new one?" Because he has 100 people interested. Why ruin that by allowing that supposed 100+ interested go down the same path to be whittled down to 10?

Right said Fred says Red is Dead with no Redemption 2.0.

"Reds are too scummy for a server...too scummy for a server...too scummy it hurts..."

[Larken]

100 people interested in a new pvp server? Hardly.
I'd wager that a fresh pvp server would have at least 250-300 active players for the first 6-12 months, probably even more the first months. The demand is real, there's so many sitting on the fence just waiting for the sweet sweet EQ pvp fresh server thrill. That's right, ya'll know what I'm talking about. Don't pretend like you don't.

[Mario 7]

even if it was 200 how does it benefit him ?

[smooth_criminal]

I am one of these 100+people lurking and hoping for a fresh red server. I play with a group of 5 friends, we even made toons on green but its just not the same thrill =/

[A Knight]

can i be the frog? Half reptile half fish? Actually thats all i know about kekistan. (Also that supposedly its a real country thats already conquered the rest of the world or something.) My luck is they did something crazy recently and now they are horrible or something. Anyway ill be the frog. I am disappointed and not disappointed because im grateful p99 exists.

[Uuruk]

Listen rogdawg if you read this do not open another pvp server. It will become a giant headache with a lot of crying. The headache is not worth it.

[Samsonite]

Just wish Rogean would give the people what they want.

This post probably will not be read by him but... I encourage you to be a man of the people and grant the wish of 100's of Everquest PvP player. Something we have been asking kindly for for a very long time.

[Uuruk]

Just wish Rogean would give the people what they want.

This post probably will not be read by him but... I encourage you to be a man of the people and grant the wish of 100's of Everquest PvP player. Something we have been asking kindly for for a very long time.

Would you put out a server thats going to be nowhere near as popular as your other server for 10x the headache? I wouldnt.

[El Camacho]

Would you put out a server thats going to be nowhere near as popular as your other server for 10x the headache? I wouldnt.

This.

What is the incentive for staff to wipe and bring back all the problems that red doesn't have right now.

Honest question.

[Raclen]

It isn't hard to make a red server with minimal effort needed. The blue server is a much bigger headache even when comparing populations. There should be 0 need for dev intervention with PvE on a red server. They can set up the server to have minimal GM involvement.

Take out global ooc, get rid of PnP and let it be known it is the wild wild west with community policing. Hardcode fixes for training if you want minimal petitions.

The only upkeep would be checking into people hacking and making sure your lead GM isn't RMTing.

[Uuruk]

It isn't hard to make a red server with minimal effort needed. The blue server is a much bigger headache even when comparing populations. There should be 0 need for dev intervention with PvE on a red server. They can set up the server to have minimal GM involvement.

Take out global ooc, get rid of PnP and let it be known it is the wild wild west with community policing. Hardcode fixes for training if you want minimal petitions.

The only upkeep would be checking into people hacking and making sure your lead GM isn't RMTing.

Yeah, you obviously are clueless about the people who play these servers.

[Disease]

It isn't hard to make a red server with minimal effort needed. The blue server is a much bigger headache even when comparing populations. There should be 0 need for dev intervention with PvE on a red server. They can set up the server to have minimal GM involvement.

Take out global ooc, get rid of PnP and let it be known it is the wild wild west with community policing. Hardcode fixes for training if you want minimal petitions.

The only upkeep would be checking into people hacking and making sure your lead GM isn't RMTing.

Or he could make another blue server, with a different ruleset and have 100s of grateful players playing it.

Or another red server where you bring back the crazy people trolling the forums and the population is 40 people in 6 months.

[Raclen]

Or he could make another blue server, with a different ruleset and have 100s of grateful players playing it.

Or another red server where you bring back the crazy people trolling the forums and the population is 40 people in 6 months.

Another blue server would not bring back a ton of people. It would be the same population it has now within 6 months. Red99 had 200+ people years after launch even with all the issues it had with GM corruption and poor handling of the server. They could run a much better server this time with minimal effort and actually increase the overall population, not that increasing the overall population is even a big deal for them.

Yes you would have trolls but who cares, why do they even need to pay attention to trolls? At most you need to have a guide that logs in and bans forum accounts. It isn't a big deal.

[Uuruk]

Don't do it

[Baler]

I've never been so disappointed in all my life.

[Fame]

#2

[Gustoo]

i beg

[Mario 7]

I've never been so disappointed in all my life.

Not going to lie this made me laugh out loud

[Swish]

Just checking in, been a minute.

[Tassador]

Red server is just fine...

[Tunabros]

Red server is just fine...

how? everyone is complaining that its dead as balls

[ylarik24]

https://unixgeek.com/eqemu.html


Red pop not as dead as everyone makes it out to be. Seems to be getting over 100 in game active players nightly. If he wants to make a new server I am sure like everyone would expect the numbers would be high for first few months and die off again to be another server just like current red with split population. If he wanted to make l a permadeath server or something temporary I am sure it would sustain a population but making a second red would not.

[Izmael]

You're confusing active players and active characters.

[Flexin]

100 people interested in a new pvp server? Hardly.
I'd wager that a fresh pvp server would have at least 250-300 active players for the first 6-12 months, probably even more the first months. The demand is real, there's so many sitting on the fence just waiting for the sweet sweet EQ pvp fresh server thrill. That's right, ya'll know what I'm talking about. Don't pretend like you don't.

This is accurate, if it launched the way red99 ended up with the PNP and exp boost I bet those numbers are even larger. Rogie just missing out on that free donation $.

[Uuruk]

This is accurate, if it launched the way red99 ended up with the PNP and exp boost I bet those numbers are even larger. Rogie just missing out on that free donation $.

xp boost is how you kill the server.

[Dulu]

I made this account in anticipation of the upcoming teams pvp or fresh red server.

*Looks at join date*


...shit

[Smedy]

The real question that should be asked is: "Why Rogean, are you catering to the 10 people that still log into the Red server? Instead of the 100+ that are interested in a new one?"

I believe feelings were hurt at some point, Rogean and crew does a wonderful job of hosting these, i could only imagine the amount of flaming and drama some of these nerds put into their petitionquest.

Me being one of the longest remaining pvp champs of this community has in total maybe 4 petitions in over 10 years of gameplay on a pvp server. If everyone could be as amazing as myself there wouldn't be any hurt feeling but too many of you spend hours writing essays about how you are the right and others are wrong about what happened in the elf simulator and that most likely burnt the staff the fuck out and they decided to let us all rot on this deadbox.

That being said they sort of brought it upon themselves trying to enforce rules they had no way to enforce, new server would preferably have "no rules" except the obvious no MQ2 or KringeHax.

Elfsim narcissism aside, it would be cool if they put up a new pvp server during corona because there sure as hell ain't no good games out there in the mmorpg pvp genre at this point and it's pretty bleak if you ask me. Maybe AoC could be something but i feel like that game is very far away.

[Kief]

You were always a good dude Smedy. Enjoyed playing/fighting with ya. I have never petitioned anyone my entire time here, either.

You did get my wizard Kanyewest's name changed to Kanyeeast by one of the GM's though. You butthead! It was after I rocked you in Dreadlands. LOL.

Just teasing though, much love brother.

[Mario 7]

Hey dulu hows your movement going where you ban everyone from discord for posting their pvp ideas that you dont agree with?

idiot

[Fame]

#3

[GreenRanger]

purge the sodomites.

[White_knight]

New sevior plx.

Would love 2 play r99 again just not with the condensed nut jobs that inhabit the 60pop server currently up 4 play.

[Baler]

Sometimes I lay in my bed at night, wide awake and thinking to myself.
I wonder what the next pvp server will be like..
Will it be teams? What kind of teams...
Another FFA? Who should I grief first...
Wonder if they even read the red forum section.

Then I fall asleep as a tear hits my pillow.

[Zoolander]

those threads never get old haha!

[Fame]

#4

[Googi]

hey talk about a warmbody visiting the thread mitic lol what a piece of dead weight waiting in the epic line

[Oddbaal]

:(

[Dulu]

Hey dulu hows your movement going where you ban everyone from discord for posting their pvp ideas that you dont agree with?

idiot

I don't think I ever banned anyone from discord.

Furthermore, I gave up leadership to the discord months ago.

If someone banned you, it was probably because you were spamming or some stupid shit. PM one of the admins if you want to be unbanned.

[Googi]

Why would anyone want to pm you or join your pointless discord you are a god dam idiot

[Fame]

#5

[Fame]

#6

[Baler]

Who get's Doze Tears on red? anyone?

[Toad1]

Right now i dont think anyone but tune kept clearing tov for a couple years at least for people who wanted to play

i left before velious , i dont like all the high resists on raid gear , makes casters not viable

[Fame]

#7

[Swish]

checking in

[Tunabros]

Guys! Just stop playing red and let it die!
Then the staff has to make a new one!

[White_knight]

Guys! Just stop playing red and let it die!
Then the staff has to make a new one!

Most of us have stopped playing - it's just the retarded nerds who are addicted to their pixels on a time locked server that keep playing and ruining it for everyone else.

[Chortles Ban Appeal]

pretty sure everyone would come back for a fresh PvP server

[Tunabros]

Most of us have stopped playing - it's just the retarded nerds who are addicted to their pixels on a time locked server that keep playing and ruining it for everyone else.

Feels bad man =(

[Kohedron]

People tell themselves they don't like pvp in everquest

Green still has pvp, you just fight on the message boards instead of in game

[Toad1]

Can still train them, kill quest npcs, steal camps and get people mad in ooc

its just a different kind of pvp

[Fame]

#8

[Baler]

They can't keep getting away with this!

[Swish]

People tell themselves they don't like pvp in everquest

Green still has pvp, you just fight on the message boards instead of in game

It's just petition wars with the volunteers, who could be doing fun things instead of disciplining sets of screaming man children.

[Imago]

I love my pixels, but not so much to fight for them again.

[Toad1]

You dont have any pixels worth mentioning

[Fame]

#9

[Gustoo]

disappoint

[Danger]

every. single. day.

[raski]

burn it and start over.

[Sguchi]

Checking in

[Fame]

#10

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

I’m a loser checking in

[Swish]

Logged in the other day and the in game number was truly sad.

[Baler]

https://i.imgur.com/lw2ACr4.gif

Waiting for that new red server.
Rolling Troll Shaman.

[Jeni]

Right now I am investing heavily in the stockmarket, real estate, and bitcoin with a plan to be able to quit my job in 15 years when red 2.0 comes out and play full time without having to worry about the power going out this time around.

[Tunabros]

Logged in the other day and the in game number was truly sad.

:(

[nottitanuk]

rise of zek is better than anything p99 can put out anyway

who really wants to play a velious locked server?

[Kief]

Checking in

Miss you Kajo =-)

<3 bro!

[derpcake2]

.

[Disease]

rise of zek is better than anything p99 can put out anyway

who really wants to play a velious locked server?

Rise of zek... Log out for 15 mins and get booted to home city rise of zek? LOL get that hot garbage out of here. Server lasts 2 months and wipes. With boxing pulling in 10 people a night.

People say they want pvp, but cry when they get a locked server. If you wanted pvp, everyone gears up and fights everyday for the sake of pvping. Not so they can raid some bullshit long ass raid, to get more upgrades. While the pvp each expansion gets worse and worse.

[Clazxiss]

Rise of zek... Log out for 15 mins and get booted to home city rise of zek? LOL get that hot garbage out of here. Server lasts 2 months and wipes. With boxing pulling in 10 people a night.

People say they want pvp, but cry when they get a locked server. If you wanted pvp, everyone gears up and fights everyday for the sake of pvping. Not so they can raid some bullshit long ass raid, to get more upgrades. While the pvp each expansion gets worse and worse.

How do the AAs affect pvp? Always been curious about this.

[Fame]

#11

[MaCtastic]

Why does everyone want a fresh server? Just so the competition is balanced?

[abbud]

Why does everyone want a fresh server? Just so the competition is balanced?

They think there will be any different this time around. Same people will outlevel them, grief them and they will be right back here crying for a 3rd server.

"I cant play because 10 people have 100 alts with vulak gear" buhu.

I dont have any vulak gear, been on this server since beta and I still have tons of fun playing.

[Krazy/sickpuppy]

A fresh server will bring in 1-200 more active players . It has nothing to do with gear . I played on this server for years in Walmart gear . I won the mage botb with shit gear . It’s about the player base . Who wants to pvp the same 15 nerds all day every day . It gets old quick . It’s time for a fresh start

[Jazzy]

Wipe it clean 2020

[quido]

I believe feelings were hurt at some point, Rogean and crew does a wonderful job of hosting these, i could only imagine the amount of flaming and drama some of these nerds put into their petitionquest.

Me being one of the longest remaining pvp champs of this community has in total maybe 4 petitions in over 10 years of gameplay on a pvp server. If everyone could be as amazing as myself there wouldn't be any hurt feeling but too many of you spend hours writing essays about how you are the right and others are wrong about what happened in the elf simulator and that most likely burnt the staff the fuck out and they decided to let us all rot on this deadbox.

That being said they sort of brought it upon themselves trying to enforce rules they had no way to enforce, new server would preferably have "no rules" except the obvious no MQ2 or KringeHax.

Elfsim narcissism aside, it would be cool if they put up a new pvp server during corona because there sure as hell ain't no good games out there in the mmorpg pvp genre at this point and it's pretty bleak if you ask me. Maybe AoC could be something but i feel like that game is very far away.

I feel like Smedy gets it. The community is toxic without even trying. You need a thick skin and some real resolve. P99 has the resolve but not the thick skin - I would say it's akin to their ruleset which was probably Smedy's keenest point here. I had a lot of fun on red but probably my largest grievance was sporadic and uneven enforcement of unnecessary rules.

[Fame]

#12

[Knuckle]

i think, and maybe its from the degrees of separation I've had playing over the last 5+ years, that Rogean and crew do not give a fuck if a new server had more population than the current one. But I would be hype if they did a 'green' pvp that eventually merged post velious patch like they are doing with green.

[White_knight]

I feel like Smedy gets it. The community is toxic without even trying. You need a thick skin and some real resolve. P99 has the resolve but not the thick skin - I would say it's akin to their ruleset which was probably Smedy's keenest point here. I had a lot of fun on red but probably my largest grievance was sporadic and uneven enforcement of unnecessary rules.

Yup. I petitioned 1 person on the forums, and 1 person in game.

Hivemind a twink bard because he was dispelling CCs on out of range groups just to wipe them. Stupid grief shit that had nothing to do with PvP.

And some guy who KSed a stormfeather on some level 45 monk I had at server reboot with his oor chanter or something then made up a bunch of shit how I was spamming him hate tells or some shit.. I had screen shots of him calling his own guild toxic because he was worried I was going to get him banned. He ended up giving me 20k worth of shit or something. Forget the guys' name now, think he used to just afk on his rogue at raids and wait till dragons were pulled to ent to get dkp.

I had a casual convo with one of the GMs and they said red has about the same volume of petitions as blue but is 10percent of the server. Makes you wonder who the fuck is doing all those petitions besides the obvious players like Tune etc.

[Krazy/sickpuppy]

Petition quest on red99

[derpcake2]

.

[Gustoo]

Bump

[strongNpretty]

been having a great time on red since joining... Seriously, I see no toxicity in my day to day shenanigans here. I see smack talking sometimes, but its super fun to read. Getting to that level now where I expect to see some more pvp action, i'm excited!

But I ask questions, people politely answer. People have grouped with me, and people LFG.. Thanks to andain who gave me this big druid stick to hit things with! Thanks for getting me started duder!! Oh and thanks to Grains and bubbe for bein my first homies here!

[Kerwin 5.0]

=/

[strongNpretty]

=/

What's wrong man?!

[Tassador]

Hi guys andian gave me a big stick and I am leveling to the point that I expect to see pvp soon.

I almost died when I read that. Server broke asf

[Gustoo]

I made the mistake of checking twice today so I am posting here to double down on the disappointment.

Looking forward to the next project 1999 server. The years of waiting seem to be flying by. It seems like just a month or so ago that red server got kicked in the ballz and here we are like 5 years later. Time really does fly.

Make an official server X trading function so transactions are documented and both servers can thrive. I don't like losing so much trading functionality because of RMT worries, which seem to happen either way. We lose the ability to do things like cross server trade or sell accounts for in game moneys, and we still have to deal with RMT economy. Worst of both worlds.

For reals though everquest is great. Keep up the good work palz. Looking forward to new server.

[strongNpretty]

Hi guys andian gave me a big stick and I am leveling to the point that I expect to see pvp soon.

I almost died when I read that. Server broke asf

Stop talking. You spelled Tassadar wrong.

[Fame]

#13

[Gustoo]

#not counting but here

[magnetaress]

I'm desperate for a red2.0 but not one with non-classic gimicks and no-item loot.

Give us RZ 1999 please. Just for a month. See how it goes. :D

[Gustoo]

One to 2 months of legit rallos replica server would be peak excellence. Hell even allow players to be feared and charmed for a couple days along with held item loot and insta cast pumices. Why not.

[strongNpretty]

Seriously enjoying red and the close group of peeps i've spent some time with recently. Many more adventures ahead!!

[magnetaress]

One to 2 months of legit rallos replica server would be peak excellence. Hell even allow players to be feared and charmed for a couple days along with held item loot and insta cast pumices. Why not.

Yeah, i would log in just to let people grief me so they could have some fun. Considering red right now. Today may be the day I load it up again. All the pre-launch-shadowlands wow excitement isn't really attracting my attention.

[magnetaress]

alright i logged in on all three acounts i remembered lol :D

i feel better now

ya'll have a gr8 day.

[Fame]

#14

[Gustoo]

#20

[magnetaress]

I'll probably log in again and redo my controls so I can play again.

Ran around qeynos newb yard and felt extreme nostalgia. My heart actually twitterpated.

[Gustoo]

Hmm.

With all this talk, I think I would log my iksar necro and do a kunarkQUEST and just solo in kunark exclusively and learn the ins and outs like I know the ins and outs of faydwer and most of antonica.

[strongNpretty]

Yall better come kick it with me soon..

[Morton Jr]

would kill for new red that stops at kunark

or launches with it

no item loot just coin

No yellow text

[Tassador]

Yall better come kick it with me soon..

54 possibles on right now. Server is so fire right now lol.

[strongNpretty]

54 possibles on right now. Server is so fire right now lol.

Ok Mugatu.

Can anybody on the forums tell me who this guy was at one point? Cause nobody in game cares to recognize who Tassador was or is..

Just a buncha people in agreement that you have some mental health issues. Address that shit.

[Gynecologist]

would kill for new red that stops at kunark

or launches with it

no item loot just coin

No yellow text

[Raclen]

Ok Mugatu.

Can anybody on the forums tell me who this guy was at one point? Cause nobody in game cares to recognize who Tassador was or is..

Just a buncha people in agreement that you have some mental health issues. Address that shit.

He plays these emulators anon and gets dunked on. He probably never quit playing.

[Raclen]

I logged on to see the red99 new server announcement now that Kunark launched on Green. I was disappointed.

[Gustoo]

I think we have a 25% chance of an old world PVP server (discord style) and then a 50% chance of a kunark and iksar only server in about a year.

These stats are based on objective and quantifiable data, that I will not share.

Mostly, it just feels right

[Tassador]

71 possible people on right now. Maybe pvp maybe. That guy with the graph did a good job pointing out who really the insane people are.

[Imago]

71 possible people on right now. Maybe pvp maybe. That guy with the graph did a good job pointing out who really the insane people are.

I don't get it

[magnetaress]

Anyone notice RoZ population just dips hard when they stray away from classic 1-50 EQ and start getting wierd?

Should be a big indicater where the pvp is at for EQ. Once the grind to 60 and BiS becomes a year long solo boredom or multiboxxing fest, most casual players, people who like pvp, and aren't pixel addicted will dive off to like WoW BGs or other dota style games.

The best hope for a real classic server is 1-60. Kunark only. Item loot RZ. Classic as can be, broken. And just completely wild wild west as for GMs disputing between guilds and griefers, pks vs non-pks.

The biggest failing of red99 was that the GMs butted into the community when things started heating up because they saw all the forumposts and drama and got scared, but that was exactly when the pvpers-vs-bluebies were starting to really organize and the server was hitting its maturity, but it never happend.

We need a 2cnd chance. But I don't think a non-pvper would understand this because they are like' but you have velious and there's no trains and it's fair and competative'. It's not about that for pvpers. Nor pixels. We aren't that interested in dragon loot, we are more interested in killing the other guy trying to get the dragon loot.

[crossplay]

Rallos Zek item loot - launch at absolute Classic, patching through. Kunark in a year. Velious a year after that. Relaunch box. Ad infinitum.

[Larken]

Rallos Zek item loot - launch at absolute Classic, patching through. Kunark in a year. Velious a year after that. Relaunch box. Ad infinitum.

I can 2nd that.

[strongNpretty]

He plays these emulators anon and gets dunked on. He probably never quit playing.

Starting to feel bad for the guy.. The struggle seems pretty real for him.

[Tassador]

I don't get it

I would not expect you to understand.

[Gustoo]

Rallos Zek item loot - launch at absolute Classic, patching through. Kunark in a year. Velious a year after that. Relaunch box. Ad infinitum.

Yeah its pretty straight forward. You will have a essential winners in each era as people max out and tire out, but then it restarts. We would already be on velious 2.0 or kunark 3.0 by now if we were cycling. I'm fine with old red being the recycle dumpster if you really want to keep peoples characters alive forever.

[magnetaress]

Or this is crazy: Have 3 databases and let us /charactermove to kunark and from kunark to velious if we want. Let people pick what erra the game ends.

[crossplay]

Yeah its pretty straight forward. You will have a essential winners in each era as people max out and tire out, but then it restarts. We would already be on velious 2.0 or kunark 3.0 by now if we were cycling. I'm fine with old red being the recycle dumpster if you really want to keep peoples characters alive forever.

Totally agree. Some people would have time to power through all three years each cycle. But most of us would duck in and out.

The only real problem is Velious -- it's too hard to "catch up" if you're starting late or behind. But there aren't any good solutions that I've seen.

[Disease]

Totally agree. Some people would have time to power through all three years each cycle. But most of us would duck in and out.

The only real problem is Velious -- it's too hard to "catch up" if you're starting late or behind. But there aren't any good solutions that I've seen.

Just race to wake the sleeper. Once sleeper is awakened, server merges into the old red server and a new one starts. Use the original red server as a character graveyard. 1 year each expansion.

[Gustoo]

Totally agree. Some people would have time to power through all three years each cycle. But most of us would duck in and out.

The only real problem is Velious -- it's too hard to "catch up" if you're starting late or behind. But there aren't any good solutions that I've seen.

velious problem is solved by only being 1 year before dumping into the archival server.

[magnetaress]

velious problem is solved by only being 1 year before dumping into the archival server.

Yeah i'm starting to dig this, would encourage people to load up their benched velious characters and fight at the games prime aswell. And let the archival box build some momentum, while newbies jumped in during season 1 and 2 of the other box.

I'm really digging it.

We all know it could go on like 10 seasons easily before the world ends :D

[Gustoo]

Exactly. Eventually the archival server would have tons of max level people that don't want to go through the paces AGAIN and also enjoy having lots of level 60's do do stuff with? Or to battle...or who knows. At the very least, pvp tournaments for pride when many opponents have hi tier gear.

3 year cycles. Fine n dandy. At most, we are ready for red 99 number 2 when green server rolls out velious (since people JUST finished vanilla)

[Caleb_Crawdad]

Exactly. Eventually the archival server would have tons of max level people that don't want to go through the paces AGAIN and also enjoy having lots of level 60's do do stuff with? Or to battle...or who knows. At the very least, pvp tournaments for pride when many opponents have hi tier gear.

3 year cycles. Fine n dandy. At most, we are ready for red 99 number 2 when green server rolls out velious (since people JUST finished vanilla)

I check this forum every day looking for announcements.. But this is a great idea. They don’t want another server that will turn out the same way. So 3 year seasons, and then retire to the original server sounds $$$ to me.

[Tunabros]

you gained experience~!!

[magnetaress]

Red 1 is good but it should be the toon archival server so we can fight anew and make new friends and enemies.

[Trainhop]

How long after blue was red released? Can't be that much longer of a wait!

[Fame]

#15

[Baler]

Was disappointed today when I posted Consider Red in RnF.

[magnetaress]

https://i.imgur.com/xrLDEWF.png

Whyyyyy was quest exp disabled on rred 1.0??! :(

[White_knight]

Posting in disappointment.

[Gustoo]

Disappointed this morning.

[Fame]

#16

[magnetaress]

make clerics great again

[Lizard1]

im disappointed no new red reading about green server people fighting over stuff when they should be killing eachother

[Lizard1]

would kill for new red that stops at kunark

or launches with it

no item loot just coin

No yellow text

[Gustoo]

Rallos rules or Sullon rules is no brainer ruleset for next round.

We already did no item loot with level restriction. Its okay. Vallon rules basically. It kinda sucks because theres no reason to fight at low level, mere inconvenience.

Looking forward to brown 99

[Kerwin 5.0]

still hanging out on aradune if you need pixel package or want to join raiding guild hit me up, maybe we will get a new red one year

[magnetaress]

thats cool, i kinda gave up on live because i didn't want to keep up with the game

i feel like this server is sorta my old folks home, i can shuffle some cards and play some dominos without worrying about new stuff or really confusing wildcard combinations

[Gustoo]

Is Aradune a live progression server?

I feel the same way magnet. Old folks home. I got my pixels over here where I put em...not as many pixels as there used to be, but they're my pixels, and they're all-right by me.

[Lizard1]

its a live TLP With instancing, if a zone hits like 45 or 55 players another instance opens up, when i was playing lower guk had 18 instances at one point so people can actually camp things like frenzy and your guild can do all bosses every week even if you suck

( vox with 2 or 3 groups is fun )

[yyrkoon]

instancing sounds super fun
(it doesn't)

[Gustoo]

2020 style. Yeah thats cool Lizard I just am kinda stuck on classic style no instancing. PVP being the ultimate way to police these things.

[Danger]

mad irl, red was angerly discussed at the thanksgiving table

[Zephys]

Still sayin I'd abandon green in a second for any kind of team pvp, be it race, alignment, whatever.

[Fame]

#17

[Baler]

Purple99 Teams PvP

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Free C2 for friendly wizards

[Gustoo]

disappointed

[Baler]

Why wont they accept my /duel

[Fame]

#18

[Tunabros]

It be like that sometimes

no new RED ever

[chevy79bu]

It be like that sometimes

no new RED ever

Lol this is coming from someone who played on the server for a single short play session? So your the real Bluebie all the boys talk about...

[strongNpretty]

It be like that sometimes

no new RED ever

Yeah please dont do this Tuna. I've respected you this far, and i guess if you hated your experience on red then so be it, i'm sorry it didn't work out. But please dont be another person tarnishing the server name.

I really did find a home on red, and im tryin to promote it positively in and out of game. And its amazing, to what effect these forum personalities have on keeping folks away from trying red.

[chevy79bu]

Yeah please dont do this Tuna. I've respected you this far, and i guess if you hated your experience on red then so be it, i'm sorry it didn't work out. But please dont be another person tarnishing the server name.

I really did find a home on red, and im tryin to promote it positively in and out of game. And its amazing, to what effect these forum personalities have on keeping folks away from trying red.

Yeah man I can second this comment all the way. I stayed away from Red for several years due to what I was hearing. Now after joining red...there is no going back for me period. I am literally giving away all my shit on both of the other servers because of how much more I enjoy Red.

[strongNpretty]

Yeah man I can second this comment all the way. I stayed away from Red for several years due to what I was hearing. Now after joining red...there is no going back for me period. I am literally giving away all my shit on both of the other servers because of how much more I enjoy Red.

I realize red is the answer for me going forward. I feel no rush when playing anymore. I feel no need to compete with the 800 other folks online, or looking at my name at the bottom of a DKP list.

The global ooc is a serious blessing man.. whether there is 40 folks online or 100, it doesnt matter. I feel connected. I also enjoy seeing the same names in chat. I feel more connected to the server.

I can't see myself going back either, its not like all of a sudden at this point in my life im gonna find the time to suddenly raid for 40 hours a week.

From here i just enjoy my retirement phase in EQ.. I adventure and see things i couldn't, attain items i couldn't, while seriously ignoring the folks who tell us "red is a single player server" No haha, you couldn't be more wrong folks. So many good dudes over there.

[Tunabros]

need new red asap

[clacbec]

I realize red is the answer for me going forward. I feel no rush when playing anymore. I feel no need to compete with the 800 other folks online, or looking at my name at the bottom of a DKP list.

The global ooc is a serious blessing man.. whether there is 40 folks online or 100, it doesnt matter. I feel connected. I also enjoy seeing the same names in chat. I feel more connected to the server.

I can't see myself going back either, its not like all of a sudden at this point in my life im gonna find the time to suddenly raid for 40 hours a week.

From here i just enjoy my retirement phase in EQ.. I adventure and see things i couldn't, attain items i couldn't, while seriously ignoring the folks who tell us "red is a single player server" No haha, you couldn't be more wrong folks. So many good dudes over there.
I totally second that

[Ripqozko]

Red sucks, Red is more blue then blue server. Hope that helps with your non pvp.

[Swish]

https://i.imgur.com/hYTE42s.gif

[Tunabros]

https://i.imgur.com/RImSFED.jpg

[Kerwin 5.0]

big ker checkin in, still nothin huh, my chars unbanned in feb... dont play em anyway

[Gustoo]

grats on unban stay on the right side of the law citizen

[Beggars]

Don’t post, haven’t played in a couple years, but would be back for new red server in a heartbeat. Think about it frequently.

[crossplay]

Seems like Teal will be back before we get a new Red.

[Gustoo]

Guaranteed not the case crossplay. Staff always intended to eliminate teal as soon as possible, and they did so. No surprise. The teal complainers are worse than guys like me.

On the other hand, staff has multiple times confirmed that another P99 PVP server is in the future, and in fact our hero Rogean has been cited as having some excited interest in its design.

We can hope for the best. In the mean time people should pvp like crazy on red99 to get the hang of the way the server behaves in pvp scenarios because it isn't quite the same as live and there are a lot of nuances.

It's like in any game, knowing and maximizing those little tiny aspects in PVP all add up to sweet victory.

[Zephys]

https://i.imgur.com/RImSFED.jpg

[crossplay]

Guaranteed not the case crossplay. Staff always intended to eliminate teal as soon as possible, and they did so. No surprise. The teal complainers are worse than guys like me.

On the other hand, staff has multiple times confirmed that another P99 PVP server is in the future, and in fact our hero Rogean has been cited as having some excited interest in its design.

Sorry, I just meant I'm less optimistic of it happening any time soon.

[JayDee]

Pretty sure it is a collection of things. One being rogaen is busy, two that Daybreak was bought out and it seems like a bad time to be bringing attention to the project, and third that he would like to devise the best plan for the new red so it doesn't turn out like the old red

[BiG SiP]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uSDkU7H9eq4

[Fame]

#19

[Tradesonred]

and third that he would like to devise the best plan for the new red so it doesn't turn out like the old red

[Tradesonred]

Yeah thats why hes doing this big public brainstorm on the forums with his playerbase, so we can make sure none of the mistakes that were made on the original red are repeated. You know, like, not listening to feedback because he knows better.

[Tunabros]

https://i.imgur.com/RImSFED.jpg

[magnetaress]

sad they did green, but thats not my problem

[Fame]

#20

[Gustoo]

Rogean, I beg

[magnetaress]

plz rogean we love u so much, its why we dedicate hrs each day to posting on ur forums

[watbab]

Rogean, I beg

[Tunabros]

plz rogean we love u so much, its why we dedicate hrs each day to posting on ur forums

[Swish]

Rogean, I beg

[Gustoo]

Rogean, I beg

[Tunabros]

Rogean, I beg

[regandna]

How long have the red 2.0 pleadings been going on? At least like six months eight? Next question, how time consuming would it be to birth a new red? Is it a simple copy and paste?

[Gustoo]

[QUOTE=regandna;3228755]How long have the red 2.0 pleadings been going on? At least like six months eight? Next question, how time consuming would it be to birth a new red? Is it a simple copy and paste?[/QUOTE

I was going to answer by saying "at least like 5 years" but decided to run a quick search.

Looks like the first wipe thread I could find with almost zero effort was posted more than 9 years ago on September 2011

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49366&highlight=wipe

Needless to say it has been a really long time.

1. Server launched with minimum announcement after prolonged beta with minimal / no communication whatsoever about patches / changes throughout beta process.
2. Server launched without making very many if any of the changes requested / discussed through the beta process. Horrible resists, ETC. Stuff that shoulda been tinkered with in the beta process. No one was asking for a half baked launch.
3. Server launched with non classic ruleset. It has rallos style +- 4 level range but it had no item loot and it actually had EXP penalty on PVP death with meant PVP truly only favored griefers so that was a great past time early on in server history. Keep in mind this was the ideal time for a red server because blue had most of its kinks worked out and red was a fresh start server so it had a lot of new-to-pvp people. Eventually the EXP penalty was removed but the damage was done. There was literally zero reason to engage in low level PVP with a griefer it was pure inconvenience. No reward whatsoever.
4. Server had corrupt GM that took paypal bribes that had a huge impact on many early guild decisions, one of the two top guilds was banned outright, giving a pretty much insurmountable lead to the remaining guild for the remainder of the servers decent population period
5. Velious launched when server was pretty tanked
6. I don't remember if Nihlum was banned after or before velious launched but it gutted the rest of the population
7. Flatline

Its been a great server. Most of the stuff mentioned above could have been easily done better in retrospect so we can just hope red 2.0 will get a better run at it, with a more thoughtful ruleset, and without GM corruption and multiple server destroying guild bannings.

I would like to see the following rulesets in this order, with option 1 extremely heavily favored but option 2 being by far the most reasonable secondary option.

1. Rallos Zek server which fits most with p99 stated ideals. +-4 level pvp range, 1 item pvp loot and all coin loot. This means the game is fun at low levels because twinks are like zone bosses when they are lootable.

2. Sullon Zek unlimited PVP range, with two custom hardcoded teams. This means that low levels are garbage but the teams help and since there are no PVP limitations, your friendly high levels can defend noob zones from grief that would otherwise prevail in a non item loot situation.


I also think the next server should take steps to eliminate the legacy item and bumrush to 50 insanity that we just saw on green. It was frankly disgusting and staff has shown a desire to make unclassic changes if it helps replicate the classic experience more accurately. Nothing could be less classic than people camping single level 1 mob spawns and fighting bitterly over them, like we saw on green.

If for example level caps would be in place, on PVP server it would mean we would have some insane awesome pvp battles when everyone is stuck at level 10, then stuck at level 20, then stuck at level 30, ETC. I'm totally confident that the level capped period of the server would be the most enjoyable pvp experience since the first guy on original rallos zek that played a necro and feared a woodelf off of kelethin. Honestly I would want the level caps to go on for as long as possible pre level 50. Level caps in kunark maybe more complicated but I'm not sure.

So many good options for PVP with the strong project 1999 community that it hurts my heart to see it not happen. Thats why I post in this forum every single day.

Wishing for a brighter world for everyone.

[Tunabros]

Rogean, I beg

[Gustoo]

Rogean, I beg

[Fame]

#21

[Ret.SaxonAlex]

I won't be too terrified if red is never restarted. But hopefully if I can ever make the game Super Everquest, pvp servers will probably only ever last 2-3 years. If some how a guild or faction (It was only designed for faction war so far.) some how hasn't taken over enough cities in the game for an obvious GG, then a modified possible Luclin with massive city building capabilities will come out for the final mass guild war to finish the fight.

[Gustoo]

In that vein a worthwhile EMU server would be a pvp battlegrounds version of EQ where each class has set gear at top level and the team composition and skill are the only variables. Aka Everquest street fighter. It would be no substitute for real Everquest with environmental factors but it could be fun to see what skill vs skill looks like, understanding that the strategy involved in real Everquest pvp is what makes it good. It would be fun anyways to experiment with class balance in a 1 v 1 2 v 2 up to full groups and even multiple full groups.

Easier to program than a whole working EQ I wonder if p99 team would share the parts of code needed so hit boxes and stuff are all the same as p99 so it’s “real deal”

Would pay to have someone code this. You make a class (only one race per class sorry) and it spawns at level 60 with spells and gear and whatever name you put on it

[magnetaress]

Bump. Imagine pvp in blackburrow. A lvl 14 paladin vs a lvl 17 troll sk with a lvl 7 druid deciding who to heal.

Bronze and rawhide armor. A combine bastard sword and shield vs a fine steel two handed sword.

Go go go go go go go...

[Gustoo]

Haha don’t get me too jazzed up. But I’m also talking about lvl 60 style and abilities and basically being a training tool and way for people to mess around without the real work of collecting dkp

[Gustoo]

There some major thread bleed over here. This is supposed to be the disappointed check in thread. I’m gunna try to stay focused

[crossplay]

Every day

[watbab]

checkin' in

still disappointed

[Tradesonred]

1. Rallos Zek server which fits most with p99 stated ideals. +-4 level pvp range, 1 item pvp loot and all coin loot. This means the game is fun at low levels because twinks are like zone bosses when they are lootable.

2. Sullon Zek unlimited PVP range, with two custom hardcoded teams. This means that low levels are garbage but the teams help and since there are no PVP limitations, your friendly high levels can defend noob zones from grief that would otherwise prevail in a non item loot situation.


I also think the next server should take steps to eliminate the legacy item and bumrush to 50 insanity that we just saw on green. It was frankly disgusting and staff has shown a desire to make unclassic changes if it helps replicate the classic experience more accurately. Nothing could be less classic than people camping single level 1 mob spawns and fighting bitterly over them, like we saw on green.

If for example level caps would be in place, on PVP server it would mean we would have some insane awesome pvp battles when everyone is stuck at level 10, then stuck at level 20, then stuck at level 30, ETC. I'm totally confident that the level capped period of the server would be the most enjoyable pvp experience since the first guy on original rallos zek that played a necro and feared a woodelf off of kelethin. Honestly I would want the level caps to go on for as long as possible pre level 50. Level caps in kunark maybe more complicated but I'm not sure.

So many good options for PVP with the strong project 1999 community that it hurts my heart to see it not happen. Thats why I post in this forum every single day.

Wishing for a brighter world for everyone.

This. Good feedback like this has been given to devs for literally almost a decade. The only ingredient missing IMO is nodrop event loot at different level brackets to give starting players a fighting chance and create organic PvP (players fighting over event mobs) 100x more fun than the jousting shit sirken was doing, bless his heart. Also that a sullon-like server will be shit as level difference will create a similar griefy dynamic present in early red with xp loss. Level lock could potentially mitigate this.

[crossplay]

Good ideas for sure!

[Fame]

#22

[Thulian]

This. Good feedback like this has been given to devs for literally almost a decade. The only ingredient missing IMO is nodrop event loot at different level brackets to give starting players a fighting chance and create organic PvP (players fighting over event mobs) 100x more fun than the jousting shit sirken was doing, bless his heart. Also that a sullon-like server will be shit as level difference will create a similar griefy dynamic present in early red with xp loss. Level lock could potentially mitigate this.

lots of good feedback from ecoli for sure

[crossplay]

every day

[Gustoo]

Every day, for the love of the game. Keep up the good work pals!

[Fame]

#23

(Of note. There was a thread titled Christmas update 2020 that made me auto click today with a twinkle and a glimmer of hope in my eye against better judgement, alas, disappointment again. Twice. I thought it added a nice touch on the day. Merry Christmas)

[Tunabros]

need new red asap

[Gustoo]

Great work with the disappointed Christmas fellas. Keep your heads high.

[Danger]

still disappointed

[Swish]

^

[Thulian]

all i want for christmas is a new red server

[magnetaress]

Enjoying the shadowbeast grind in tofs lots but vanilla+kunark day one -minus any legacy drops ever (sickness) would be tons of fun times.

[Tunabros]

all i want for christmas is a new red server

[Sumdyar_VZ]

I check in once very two months or so. The disappointment continues.

[Gustoo]

I check in once very two months or so. The disappointment continues.

We appreciate your contribution.

[crossplay]

all i want for christmas is a new red server

[White_knight]

(disappointed)

[Gustoo]

Good work over the Christmas break everyone. Looking forward to a strong 2021.

In the mean time I am thinking of majorly wasting my time and doing a vanilla only play through with some possible class / race combos for the new server.

[crossplay]

In the mean time I am thinking of majorly wasting my time and doing a vanilla only play through with some possible class / race combos for the new server.
That's how a friend and I were using Green, as a Red 2.0 beta.

[Gustoo]

Yeah I was going to do the same and even recruited a real life friend to try chomping on the glass with me, but luckily we decided not to. He would never ever ever have looked at everquest ever again if he played green 99 at launch when the best course of action was to find a single spawn level 1 mob and camp it till it stops giving you EXP (so like 30 hours) and then do the same again on a slightly higher level mob.

That would have permanently broken his spirit and he would have quit after about 1 hours, permanently.

I am hoping for some creative solutions (level cap) on the next P99 server that will mean more players are enjoying themselves instead of going full psychopath on the large rat population. Some people will level multiple toons to the caps (why not) but a lot of people will MAYBE enjoy the damn game.

I guess now that you mention it I might do this on Green instead of Red. I was thinking of doing it on red for potential of PVP training with my scrubs vanilla gear.

HMM

[crossplay]

Other than mechanics, it's a very unfun server with wack unclassic shit.

[Thulian]

Yeah I was going to do the same and even recruited a real life friend to try chomping on the glass with me, but luckily we decided not to. He would never ever ever have looked at everquest ever again if he played green 99 at launch when the best course of action was to find a single spawn level 1 mob and camp it till it stops giving you EXP (so like 30 hours) and then do the same again on a slightly higher level mob.

That would have permanently broken his spirit and he would have quit after about 1 hours, permanently.

I am hoping for some creative solutions (level cap) on the next P99 server that will mean more players are enjoying themselves instead of going full psychopath on the large rat population. Some people will level multiple toons to the caps (why not) but a lot of people will MAYBE enjoy the damn game.

I guess now that you mention it I might do this on Green instead of Red. I was thinking of doing it on red for potential of PVP training with my scrubs vanilla gear.

HMM

this is so sad its fucking retarded to even think people did this

this isnt everquest

[Gustoo]

Sorry for helping derail this thread. Lets focus on the disappointment here and have discussions elsewhere.

[watbab]

it was pretty strong today, bros

[magnetaress]

need red2.0 so i can simultaenously level my red1.0 cleric and buff/heal newbies while leveling a new mage alt on red2.0 and sicking pet on ppl deep in guk

[Gustoo]

Posting to document disappointment.

Pushing forward.

[Knuckle]

need red2.0 so i can simultaenously level my red1.0 cleric and buff/heal newbies while leveling a new mage alt on red2.0 and sicking pet on ppl deep in guk

hey can you rez in iceclad?

[Thulian]

was watching gold rush last night and looked over at my laptop and said man, wish we had new red

laptop sits there waiting

[Jeni]

Currently discussing seb crypt 4 names being 4 different camps on green / blue and have never wanted another red more in my life. I don't know how any of those people play with those rules lol

[DoodyLich666]

My field of bone noob ramp group had another group try to petitionquest us on green the other day. Need pvp please....

[Gustoo]

My field of bone noob ramp group had another group try to petitionquest us on green the other day. Need pvp please....

My heart goes out to you.

Maximum yuck.

Disappointment felt.

[Ret.SaxonAlex]

If I could play EQ, I would say I was disappointed-ish (Had to minus the Ish cuz I suck at spelling and had to google "disappointed")

But also.. just want to announce... I don't remember how much SV magic was normal.

I think I had almost 200 during POP or after. But I don't want to claim to be alexander the great and then have a general show up and be lying. I have no idea how much SV magic I had. I had an uber twinked ranger, but I was dating a girl and had to (on live) get rid of my swiftblade of zek. I wish I could have dated her 6 months later so I could have used it to pwn some noobs. Item is a bit unfair anyway. (/self justification.) But I never MQed any quest velious gear but I almost had enough money to buy anything except maybe a manastone.

[Dulu]

2021 is the year boys.

Don't forget, February is the 2nd Annual Ogre-raid for a PvP TLP.

Spread the word.

[Danger]

2021 is the year boys.

Don't forget, February is the 2nd Annual Ogre-raid for a PvP TLP.

Spread the word.

loled

[Thulian]

yea i remember you had 20 people at tranq stone and then everyone logged immediately , the ground shook during that protest

Lol : )

[Dulu]

yea i remember you had 20 people at tranq stone and then everyone logged immediately , the ground shook during that protest

Lol : )

Thanks for being there.

PvP bois remember'

[Fame]

#24

[crossplay]

_

[Ret.SaxonAlex]

Another day of wishing I could play a new red server.

I think it would be really cool to add a new class. The Legionnaire. Human. Iksar. Barbarian. Half elf. High elf. Its a pvp only class. Not good in PVE at high levels. It has a shield that stops projectiles, including magic spells, to any friendly character behind it. But they are slowed while their shield is activated. Good at low levels, due to its ability to wear most plate and all chainmail and under. However at higher levels the plate of other classes will start to see itself outshining its own. Mostly good at helping people level to get to high level in any competitive XP race.

The legionnaires are often untrusted by other factions. Though it is foolish for all peoples of Norrath not to use them in their armies, most rulers and cities who put them into service; do not trust them, because they seem loyal to their own way of life and not those who put them into service.

It has an ability to throw up a detector that tells you when an enemy PC character combative is near. Ranger may make this job sound redundant, but in the life of partying while playing EQ and not being an elitists while playing, it may be a nice ability to have. The detector upgrades at specific levels, like spell upgrades, where the ability to detect someone increases. There is a chance, especially at low levels, that an incoming PK may not be detected. The detector will be a beacon that lights up so everyone around can see it.

The Legionnaire also gets the ability to throw a pilum. A short ranged weapon with a cool down. A cross between a ranger bow and a shadowknight death touch.

[Thulian]

i would login to red right now

[magnetaress]

Twink a mage stacking full AGI on red. Stuff like lupine runed armband.

Get my cleric decked out in stuff like enchanted gold plate, queens carpace. Maybe get a Donals bracer, watersprinkler of the forgiven. Charisma + wis.

Help a few ppl lvl up some alts.

Maybe camp a fungi and fbss.

[Fame]

#25

[Danger]

haven't played in years but still check the forums to register my disdain for a lack of red 2.0

[Gustoo]

Still some disappointment landing right here

[Thulian]

not sure about you guys but im fucking disappointed

[crossplay]

Still DRE

[watbab]

sad

[Tunabros]

need new red asap

[Gustoo]

Just checking in to share the disappointment. Thanks again.

[Gustoo]

Sorry accidentally double checked. Still disappointed unfortunately.