Impeaching President Trump

[tsuchang]

We have to impeach him to find out why he deserves it.

[shuklak]

We have to impeach him to find out why he deserves it.

Poll needs work.

[Wonkie]

i'm sure he's banged an intern or two

was ivanka ever an intern? :eek:

[Troxx]

Its about fucking time. He’ll get politically fried in the process and tossed in jail after he’s out. Unfortunately regardless of the findings nothing it won’t go anywhere with the Senate. Our political system is so rotten than party always wins out over sanity. The impeachment process will be good to watch play out but I suspect his days in state/federal court will be delayed until after the new president is sworn in in 2021.

We have a ton of maladjusted, sexually frustrated middle age men populating these boards (MAGA base). This thread’s going to get interesting.

[feanan]

Yeah, after 3 years of "russia" and "wait for the mueller report"
i'm sure they've got him this time!

[Horza]

Wrong forum, but..

White House restricted access to Trump's calls with Putin and Saudi crown prince. (https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/27/politics/white-house-restricted-trump-calls-putin-saudi/index.html)

Those calls were among the presidential conversations that aides took remarkable steps to keep from becoming public.

The call - which the person said contained no especially sensitive national security secrets -- came as the White House was confronting the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, which US intelligence assessments said came at the hand of the Saudi government.

Officials said the practice began more than a year ago after embarrassing leaks revealed information about Trump's phone conversations with the leaders of Australia and Mexico.

Trump told Russian officials in 2017 he wasn’t concerned about Moscow’s interference in U.S. election. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-told-russian-officials-in-2017-he-wasnt-concerned-about-moscows-interference-in-us-election/2019/09/27/b20a8bc8-e159-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html)

President Trump told two senior Russian officials in a 2017 Oval Office meeting that he was unconcerned about Moscow’s interference in the U.S. election because the United States did the same in other countries, an assertion that prompted alarmed White House officials to limit access to the remarks to an unusually small number of people, according to three former officials with knowledge of the matter.

[Horza]

Wrong forum, but:

White House restricted access to Trump's calls with Putin and Saudi crown prince. (https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/27/politics/white-house-restricted-trump-calls-putin-saudi/index.html)

Those calls were among the presidential conversations that aides took remarkable steps to keep from becoming public.

The call - which the person said contained no especially sensitive national security secrets -- came as the White House was confronting the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, which US intelligence assessments said came at the hand of the Saudi government.

Officials said the practice began more than a year ago after embarrassing leaks revealed information about Trump's phone conversations with the leaders of Australia and Mexico.

Trump told Russian officials in 2017 he wasn’t concerned about Moscow’s interference in U.S. election. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-told-russian-officials-in-2017-he-wasnt-concerned-about-moscows-interference-in-us-election/2019/09/27/b20a8bc8-e159-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html)

President Trump told two senior Russian officials in a 2017 Oval Office meeting that he was unconcerned about Moscow’s interference in the U.S. election because the United States did the same in other countries, an assertion that prompted alarmed White House officials to limit access to the remarks to an unusually small number of people, according to three former officials with knowledge of the matter.[/QUOTE]

[Horza]

Woops, double post.

[Chortles Snort|eS]

me thoughT threAD about tUMp StumpS!

[LostCause]

almost been 4th year either way fuck it dood he was always a meme to be before he became president lol

[Horza]

almost been 4th year either way fuck it dood he was always a meme to be before he became president lol

Appropriate username.

[Cecily]

Yeah, after 3 years of "russia" and "wait for the mueller report"
i'm sure they've got him this time!

I for one am not certain they've got him this time due to, as you mentioned, failing to get him multiple times in the past.

[feniin]

Impeaching is the easy part. He will certainly be impeached. Conviction is the hard part. The Senate isn't likely to flip on him enough to get the 2/3 necessary.

[Horza]

Impeaching is the easy part. He will certainly be impeached. Conviction is the hard part.

ITT: people who don't even know what the word impeach means.

[Endonde]

ITT: people who don't even know what the word impeach means.

Pretty sure you dont know what it means.

[Horza]

Pretty sure you dont know what it means.

no u

[Troxx]

ITT: people who don't even know what the word impeach means.

Pretty sure that’s you.

[Jimjam]

First you Enorange Trump, now you want to impeach him?

Isn't he fruity enough?!

[Horza]

Pretty sure that’s you.

I wasn't referring to you, but the '3 years of Russia' MAGA types who for some reason seem to think articles of impeachment are voted on by the Senate and not the House.

[Horza]

Isn't he fruity enough?!

[Troxx]

I wasn't referring to you, but the '3 years of Russia' MAGA types who for some reason seem to think articles of impeachment are voted on by the Senate and not the House.

Ah. I see what you meant I suppose. The part you quoted implied you meant something different.

I just can’t wait for the orange pillsbury doughboy to get booted from office. Unfortunately he’s just a symptom of a much bigger problem: the hearts and souls of the American electorate.

[Vasarious]

Impeaching is the easy part. He will certainly be impeached. Conviction is the hard part. The Senate isn't likely to flip on him enough to get the 2/3 necessary.

Generally it's hard to get convictions when there is no crime. Your fanatical delusional insanity isn't helping you or anyone else. Hate will only keep you a miserable person. If you step back and look at actual facts, your TDS will clear up almost instantly. I'd be happy to provide that red pill if you are willing to listen to reason. Fanatics see the light every day. I don't think you lefists are bad people, just misguided and misinformed by listening to lies being fed to you.

Case in point: https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/25/cnn-just-yadda-yadda-yaddad-540-words-to-frame-trump-for-favor-he-never-requested/

Tldr, CNN skips over 500 words of a conversation to shoehorn a false narrative about Trump asking Ukraine to investigate Biden.

For what it's worth Biden's son and his friend got put on the board of a Ukranian energy company as well as named consultants and were paid over $87,000 a month...each. Never mind the fact neither had any experience in anything Ukraine related or energy related. His dad was VP though, that's gotta be worth something. Funny that Biden is on record bragging he got the prosecuter who was investigating the situation fired by threatening to hold back $1,000,000,000 in US aid if they didn't can him. You can see that video here:

https://www.wsj.com/video/opinion-joe-biden-forced-ukraine-to-fire-prosecutor-for-aid-money/C1C51BB8-3988-4070-869F-CAD3CA0E81D8.html

I have family members like you guys, they have their preconceived notions and opinions. Any evidence or facts to the contrary be damned. I guess people dont like to be wrong and will go to any extreme in denial rather than admit it. Rationality can restore your sanity, you just have to use your head. I love my relatives, regardless though.

[Horza]

The Federalist website that you linked is really something else.

Climate Worship Is Nothing More Than Rebranded Paganism. (https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/26/climate-worship-is-nothing-more-than-rebranded-paganism/)

We're seeing sexualized dances, hallucinogens, worshiping nature, confessing sins in pagan animism, worshiping purified teen saints, all to promote a supposedly greater cause.

If nothing else, the last few days should be enough to prove that Western civilization, a product of more than 1,500 years of Judeo-Christian values, is facing its most significant and sustained challenge in centuries from tribalistic paganism, a force that seeks not only to turn back time but essentially to destroy the entire current edifice.

[loramin]

Generally it's hard to get convictions when there is no crime. Your fanatical delusional insanity isn't helping you or anyone else. Hate will only keep you a miserable person. If you step back and look at actual facts, your TDS will clear up almost instantly. I'd be happy to provide that red pill if you are willing to listen to reason. Fanatics see the light every day. I don't think you lefists are bad people, just misguided and misinformed by listening to lies being fed to you.

Case in point: https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/25/cnn-just-yadda-yadda-yaddad-540-words-to-frame-trump-for-favor-he-never-requested/

Tldr, CNN skips over 500 words of a conversation to shoehorn a false narrative about Trump asking Ukraine to investigate Biden.

For what it's worth Biden's son and his friend got put on the board of a Ukranian energy company as well as named consultants and were paid over $87,000 a month...each. Never mind the fact neither had any experience in anything Ukraine related or energy related. His dad was VP though, that's gotta be worth something. Funny that Biden is on record bragging he got the prosecuter who was investigating the situation fired by threatening to hold back $1,000,000,000 in US aid if they didn't can him. You can see that video here:

https://www.wsj.com/video/opinion-joe-biden-forced-ukraine-to-fire-prosecutor-for-aid-money/C1C51BB8-3988-4070-869F-CAD3CA0E81D8.html

I have family members like you guys, they have their preconceived notions and opinions. Any evidence or facts to the contrary be damned. I guess people dont like to be wrong and will go to any extreme in denial rather than admit it. Rationality can restore your sanity, you just have to use your head. I love my relatives, regardless though.

I won't even try to defend Biden; fuck that guy.

But if you truly don't believe there's even a chance that Trump committed at least one impeachable offense ... your family members aren't the only ones who:

have their preconceived notions and opinions. Any evidence or facts to the contrary be damned.

[Troxx]

Did you seriously just quote the federalist?

/facepalm

[Horza]

I won't even try to defend Biden; fuck that guy.

[Troxx]

The Federalist website that you linked is really something else.

I know right?

Super serious resource vetting happening in this thread.

[Mead]

is this something I can bet on?

[Horza]

As secular liberalism destroyed the fundamental ties that bind society — faith, flag, and family — the human instincts for faith — to believe, worship, submit, and fear — didn’t just go away but manifested in various other pre-civilized tribal ways. That is why members of “Extinction Rebellion” do what they do. Extinction Rebellion is an apocalyptic cult that wants to radically end every thing around you, from your private cars to the burgers you eat and the plastic chairs in your yard. It is a cult that was formed after its founder took psychedelic drugs and prayed for “social change.”

:confused:

[Horza]

I can feel the pagan animism taking hold over me, their sexualized dances are just too irresistible.

[Wonkie]

the senate has never convicted a president of impeachment

[tsuchang]

If you think he must have done something worthy of impeachment, ya got nothing.
All of this diligent searching for anything that can conceivably be construed as "high crimes and misdemeanors" is, to put it in technical terms, wacky.
The source for this latest chapter didn't even see, hear or read transcripts of the phone call. The source just heard other persons opinions. That isn't a whistle blower, it's just another anonymous source. Just like so much fake news.

[Wonkie]

If you think he must have done something worthy of impeachment, ya got nothing.
All of this diligent searching for anything that can conceivably be construed as "high crimes and misdemeanors" is, to put it in technical terms, wacky.
The source for this latest chapter didn't even see, hear or read transcripts of the phone call. The source just heard other persons opinions. That isn't a whistle blower, it's just another anonymous source. Just like so much fake news.

you see, technically he's only done felonies.

wrap it Demailures!

[Horza]

If you think he must have done something worthy of impeachment, ya got nothing.

Impeachment is a question of politics, it's 100% going to happen.

Trump told Russian officials in 2017 he wasn’t concerned about Moscow’s interference in U.S. election. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-told-russian-officials-in-2017-he-wasnt-concerned-about-moscows-interference-in-us-election/2019/09/27/b20a8bc8-e159-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html)

President Trump told two senior Russian officials in a 2017 Oval Office meeting that he was unconcerned about Moscow’s interference in the U.S. election because the United States did the same in other countries, an assertion that prompted alarmed White House officials to limit access to the remarks to an unusually small number of people.

[Endonde]

If you think he must have done something worthy of impeachment, ya got nothing.
All of this diligent searching for anything that can conceivably be construed as "high crimes and misdemeanors" is, to put it in technical terms, wacky.
The source for this latest chapter didn't even see, hear or read transcripts of the phone call. The source just heard other persons opinions. That isn't a whistle blower, it's just another anonymous source. Just like so much fake news.

I dont really give a fuck about impeachment because it wont result in any real change, but this argument that because someone only has secondhand knowledge of potential wrongdoing it shouldn't be looked into is hilarious.

Its hard to deny that the whistleblowers report has been accurate so far.

[feniin]

ITT: Red hats that don't understand that impeachment is the fact gathering process to send a sitting elected official to trial.

He will 100% be impeached. It's not up for discussion. They have the numbers to vote for impeachment. The Senate is very unlikely to convict Trump and remove him from office, even if the evidence is irrefutable.

[Teppler]

I won't even try to defend Biden; fuck that guy.

But if you truly don't believe there's even a chance that Trump committed at least one impeachable offense ... your family members aren't the only ones who:

https://i.ibb.co/JBswL24/biden5.png

Where's the quote of what Trump did? :confused::confused::confused:

Here's a great question-

What was the CIA doing while the Obama administration through Joe Biden stole 1 billion dollars from the common tax paying Americans that was supposed to go to aid for the Ukraine?

Does anyone have an explanation that doesn't include the CIA being an organization with allegiances to foreign elites? Why did they allow this stealing to happen against the American people? Enjoy.

[Wonkie]

He will 100% be impeached. It's not up for discussion. They have the numbers to vote for impeachment.

Nancy cracks a mean whip. She Oughta leather up and get on chaturbate. ;)

[Horza]

Does anyone have an explanation that doesn't include the CIA being an organization with allegiances to foreign elites?

[feniin]

https://i.ibb.co/JBswL24/biden5.png

Where's the quote of what Trump did? :confused::confused::confused:

Here's a great question-

What was the CIA doing while the Obama administration through Joe Biden stole 1 billion dollars from the common tax paying Americans that was supposed to go to aid for the Ukraine?

Does anyone have an explanation that doesn't include the CIA being an organization with allegiances to foreign elites? Why did they allow this stealing to happen against the American people? Enjoy.
Probably investigating the other imaginary crimes your "fair and balanced" right wing "media" keeps fabricating. Like the pizza restaurant, UraniumOne, Benghazi, etc.

[Teppler]

Probably investigating the other imaginary crimes your "fair and balanced" right wing "media" keeps fabricating. Like the pizza restaurant, UraniumOne, Benghazi, etc.

This is an imaginary crime?

https://i.ibb.co/JBswL24/biden5.png

[Horza]

Probably investigating the other imaginary crimes your "fair and balanced" right wing "media" keeps fabricating. Like the pizza restaurant, UraniumOne, Benghazi, etc.

He thinks Fox is too left-wing, the guy is a bonafide Nazi.

[galach]

moved to offtopic.

[Endonde]

moved to offtopic.

You should just remove RnF at this point, since you've pretty much neutered it.

[Baler]

https://i.imgur.com/9jv5tLv.gif

[Wonkie]

https://i.imgur.com/9jv5tLv.gif

Lol that the Putin mask is wearing a track suit

[Baler]

Lol that the Putin mask is wearing a track suit

https://i.imgur.com/SeNignM.png

[Horza]

Is this a meme thread now?

[tsuchang]

There are so many trolls.
You guys are funny. Even when you are being serious, if you are being serious, yer funny.
I like a good troll fest too.
If any of this makes you angry, you need to laugh more. Just think of the guys you don't agree with as, sitting in their pajamas, in their grandma's basement, and she just brought them some milk and cookies.
Just for the record, I don't wear the pajamas with booties.

[Horza]

There are so many trolls.
Even when you are being serious, funny.
Like a good troll fest.

[DMN]

Impweach twump.

[Boyblunder]

He can pardon himself. problem solved.

[Teppler]

Mueller Time! The Orange Cheeto is fucked.

[k9quaint]

Moving from orange to peach.
Ramen is gonna be so sad.

[Ripqozko]

God bless Trump
God bless chick fil a
Build the wall and hire more ice
Roll tide

[Nibblewitz]

Impeach please.

Turn him into a martyr before 2020 politics begin.

[Horza]

God bless Trump
God bless chick fil a
Build the wall and hire more ice
Roll tide

That isn't a haiku.

[Mead]

Trumps strategy is a smoke screen Hillary email investigation? You can’t make this shit up

[Jauna]

Did this actually happen or is it one of those drum circles where if you repeat something enough it happens?

[Arvan]

Generally it's hard to get convictions when there is no crime. Your fanatical delusional insanity isn't helping you or anyone else. Hate will only keep you a miserable person. If you step back and look at actual facts, your TDS will clear up almost instantly. I'd be happy to provide that red pill if you are willing to listen to reason. Fanatics see the light every day. I don't think you lefists are bad people, just misguided and misinformed by listening to lies being fed to you.

Case in point: https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/25/cnn-just-yadda-yadda-yaddad-540-words-to-frame-trump-for-favor-he-never-requested/

Tldr, CNN skips over 500 words of a conversation to shoehorn a false narrative about Trump asking Ukraine to investigate Biden.

For what it's worth Biden's son and his friend got put on the board of a Ukranian energy company as well as named consultants and were paid over $87,000 a month...each. Never mind the fact neither had any experience in anything Ukraine related or energy related. His dad was VP though, that's gotta be worth something. Funny that Biden is on record bragging he got the prosecuter who was investigating the situation fired by threatening to hold back $1,000,000,000 in US aid if they didn't can him. You can see that video here:

https://www.wsj.com/video/opinion-joe-biden-forced-ukraine-to-fire-prosecutor-for-aid-money/C1C51BB8-3988-4070-869F-CAD3CA0E81D8.html

I have family members like you guys, they have their preconceived notions and opinions. Any evidence or facts to the contrary be damned. I guess people dont like to be wrong and will go to any extreme in denial rather than admit it. Rationality can restore your sanity, you just have to use your head. I love my relatives, regardless though.

Is he troll or does he really think those are good sources?

[Teppler]

Is he troll or does he really think those are good sources?

Does a direct quote work?

https://i.ibb.co/JBswL24/biden5.png

[YendorLootmonkey]

Impeach please.

Turn him into a martyr before 2020 politics begin.

This. Strike him down and he will become more powerful than you can ever imagine. Senate does not convict, Trump tweets TOTAL EXONERATION! FAILED WITCH HUNT! and wins in 2020 as the DNC shoots themselves in the foot 2 elections in a row.

[Sonderbeast]

I'm laughing at both dems and reps that think impeachment is a good thing for a president politically.

[Horza]

Is he troll or does he really think those are good sources?

The Federalist website isn't a good source?

Climate Worship Is Nothing More Than Rebranded Paganism. (https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/26/climate-worship-is-nothing-more-than-rebranded-paganism/)

We're seeing sexualized dances, hallucinogens, worshiping nature, confessing sins in pagan animism, worshiping purified teen saints, all to promote a supposedly greater cause.

If nothing else, the last few days should be enough to prove that Western civilization, a product of more than 1,500 years of Judeo-Christian values, is facing its most significant and sustained challenge in centuries from tribalistic paganism, a force that seeks not only to turn back time but essentially to destroy the entire current edifice.

[derpcake2]

I thought most people here would be old enough to understand nothing is going to come of this.

Guess not.

[Domo]

In Germany Trump would get prolly impeached in his first months because of nepotism.

People would be outrage if Merkel would vist her own hotels and make taxpayers pay for it.

[tsuchang]

This. Strike him down and he will become more powerful than you can ever imagine. Senate does not convict, Trump tweets TOTAL EXONERATION! FAILED WITCH HUNT! and wins in 2020 as the DNC shoots themselves in the foot 2 elections in a row.

That makes me happy.

[Horza]

Okay, none of you are going to be able to convince me that the Federalist isn't satirical.

Left Insists Pro-Lifers Like Tucker Carlson Are Racist While Pushing Policies That Kill Black Babies (https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/27/stop-blaming-pro-lifers-for-the-lefts-racism/)

[Teppler]

I'm laughing at both dems and reps that think impeachment is a good thing for a president politically.

Hold old are you? I’m wondering how old you were during Clinton’s impeachment.

nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2019/06/did-talk-of-impeaching-clinton-damage-republicans-in-1998.html

The article isn’t wrong. Public perception wise, the republicans lost by impeaching Clinton in the 90s.

[Teppler]

In Germany Trump would get prolly impeached in his first months because of nepotism.

People would be outrage if Merkel would vist her own hotels and make taxpayers pay for it.

Yeah but your country is corrupt as hell.

Merkel might not visit her own hotels but she’s actively trying to change the demographics in her country and around Europe so there’s less of the native population. I don’t know I think that might be a little worse.

[JayDee]

In Germany Trump would get prolly impeached in his first months because of nepotism.

People would be outrage if Merkel would vist her own hotels and make taxpayers pay for it.

The fuck you talkin bout. Merkel has ruined Germany and you ain't gonna do shit about it

[Teppler]

The fuck you talkin bout. Merkel has ruined Germany and you ain't gonna do shit about it

Dude has a lot of balls to talk about us Americans when Germany won't ethnically look anything like it does now in 100 years because of what his leaders are doing. Sad. :rolleyes:

[Vasarious]

Okay, none of you are going to be able to convince me that the Federalist isn't satirical.

Left Insists Pro-Lifers Like Tucker Carlson Are Racist While Pushing Policies That Kill Black Babies (https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/27/stop-blaming-pro-lifers-for-the-lefts-racism/)

Linking a bunch of unrelated articles doesn't change the fact that the article I linked is true. Without reading any of the article, you can actually watch the video of CNN's report, and compare it to the transcript (which I know you didn't read). You can figure this stuff out for yourself if you wanted to. Sorry it's difficult to learn something you don't want to believe. Attack the messenger!!! Must be hard to breathe with heads so far up your...

[Wonkie]

Hold old are you? I’m wondering how old you were during Clinton’s impeachment.

nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2019/06/did-talk-of-impeaching-clinton-damage-republicans-in-1998.html

The article isn’t wrong. Public perception wise, the republicans lost by impeaching Clinton in the 90s.

It is wrong in the sense that they didn't lose either chamber until 2006.

[Domo]

did I trigged some snowflakes? awww how cute

[Horza]

They aren't unrelated articles, your sources are a bunch of sensationalist, lowest common denominator bullshit. Sexualized dancing, hallucinogens, confessing sins in pagan animism? I don't even know how they make this stuff up.

[Vasarious]

They aren't unrelated articles, your sources are a bunch of sensationalist, lowest common denominator bullshit. Sexualized dancing, hallucinogens, confessing sins in pagan animism? I don't even know how they make this stuff up.

They are unrelated.

Like I said though, you don't even need to read any article. You can work this one out yourself. Watch the cnn coverage, or any mainstream outlet for that matter, and compare it to the actual transcript yourself. The other link is just a video of Biden confirming his coercion. That's it.

In both of these cases it is just information that is readily available if you want to see it.

[Baler]

When will this thread get merged into the "official" political thread.

[feniin]

Dude has a lot of balls to talk about us Americans when Germany won't ethnically look anything like it does now in 100 years because of what his leaders are doing. Sad. :rolleyes:

Why is that sad? Do you think a particular area on a global map should be forced to remain one ethnicity? People have moved and migrated since prehistory. That we're building walls and instituting policies to exclude them should be looked at as a humanitarian disaster. Free movement of people, ideas, and goods is the ideal human experience.

[Teppler]

Why is that sad? Do you think a particular area on a global map should be forced to remain one ethnicity? People have moved and migrated since prehistory. That we're building walls and instituting policies to exclude them should be looked at as a humanitarian disaster. Free movement of people, ideas, and goods is the ideal human experience.

Can I come in your home, squat and force you out? Why would you be upset about that? Why should your house remain to one family? Building walls and institutional policies that exclude people should be looked at a humanitarian disaster. Free movement of people, ideas, and goods is the ideal human experience.

I feel for the natives that are getting fucked by their leaders.

[Horza]

Germany won't ethnically look anything like it does now in 100 years

[Wonkie]

When will this thread get merged into the "official" political thread.

Merge off topic with the trashcan

[tsuchang]

My original comment was to compare Speaker Palosi's comment, "We have to pass it to find out what's in it", relative to Obama Care, to her jumping the gun on the impeachment inquiry before they had any evidence.

[Domo]

https://i.imgur.com/Qsdr0os.jpg

[Horza]

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Fox News host claimed that Trump's sons stopped doing business deals internationally, only to be proven wrong the following day when Eric Trump touted approval for a new Trump golf resort in Scotland. (https://www.newsweek.com/fox-news-host-trump-sons-scotland-1461666)

[Baler]

would still pick trump over hillary

[feniin]

Can I come in your home, squat and force you out? Why would you be upset about that? Why should your house remain to one family? Building walls and institutional policies that exclude people should be looked at a humanitarian disaster. Free movement of people, ideas, and goods is the ideal human experience.

I feel for the natives that are getting fucked by their leaders.

Personal property is different than public land, the right to establish a life, freedom to choose where you live, where you visit, where/how/if you choose to practice religion, etc.

Careful, your strawman is blowing away.

[feniin]

would still pick trump over hillary

Why? Because you bought into the propaganda?

[Baler]

Why? Because you bought into the propaganda?

because it was hillary clinton

I said from the start that both options sucked and the american people would lose either way. But hillary would have been a bigger L for america.
Doesnt even matter she's a woman, it's hillary clinton. just fuck sakes

[feniin]

My original comment was to compare Speaker Palosi's comment, "We have to pass it to find out what's in it", relative to Obama Care, to her jumping the gun on the impeachment inquiry before they had any evidence.

the impeachment process involves the finding of evidence when you have probable cause (or really any reason- it's a political process, not a criminal one). please, please take the time to learn these things :(

[feniin]

because it was hillary clinton

I said from the start that both options sucked and the american people would lose either way. But hillary would have been a bigger L for america.
Doesnt even matter she's a woman, it's hillary clinton. just fuck sakes

How/Why would she be worse? Do you think she would have lowered our standing with world leaders as drastically has Trump has? Do you think she would outright and demonstrably lie at every waking moment as Trump as?

She would have been serviceable. Probably slightly unlikable as she doesn't have an ounce of charisma, but I don't think there would be impeachment proceedings because she's not trying to pretend that she's a mob boss.

[Wonkie]

would still pick trump over hillary

who are you voting for this time? hillary isn't running

[Baler]

How/Why would she be worse? Do you think she would have lowered our standing with world leaders as drastically has Trump has? Do you think she would outright and demonstrably lie at every waking moment as Trump as?

She would have been serviceable. Probably slightly unlikable as she doesn't have an ounce of charisma, but I don't think there would be impeachment proceedings because she's not trying to pretend that she's a mob boss.

Hindsight is 2020 what do you want me to say
Still would have picked trump over Hillary

who are you voting for this time? hillary isn't running
oh I don't vote
But if I did probably trump because it makes people the most upset
dank 2020 memes coming
https://i.imgur.com/xqcqfJo.jpg

[feniin]

Hindsight is 2020 what do you want me to say
Still would have picked trump over Hillary


oh I don't vote
But if I did probably trump because it makes people the most upset
dank 2020 memes coming
https://i.imgur.com/xqcqfJo.jpg

ah, felon. got it.

[Baler]

ah, felon. got it.

HAHAHAHA

[Horza]

dank 2020 memes coming

Why wait a whole year?

[wildstar]

Side of beef/sniffing biden vs Geotus/lightning pence 2020!

[Wonkie]

Why is that sad? Do you think a particular area on a global map should be forced to remain one ethnicity? People have moved and migrated since prehistory. That we're building walls and instituting policies to exclude them should be looked at as a humanitarian disaster. Free movement of people, ideas, and goods is the ideal human experience.

The US isn't fertile enough to sustain itself without immigrants (https://www.newscientist.com/article/2169119-the-us-isnt-fertile-enough-to-sustain-itself-without-immigrants/)

[tsuchang]

the impeachment process involves the finding of evidence when you have probable cause (or really any reason- it's a political process, not a criminal one). please, please take the time to learn these things :(

Nope, not gona do it. I want to keep my opinion my own and share it here. I feel that not only am I entitled to my opinion but you are entitled to it too.
I would rather be sitting my closet with my narrow mindedness than open my understanding to include your understanding of anything. I'm having enough trouble rationalizing the way I think now, imagine what that would do to me if I thought like you too. Cripes! What if everyone did that? There would be so much confusion in the world. Everyone thinking all the thoughts of everyone else? No sir. That way leads to madness.
Thanks, but I will stay the way I am, just like you are staying the way you are. Now, aren't we nice and comfier?

[Wonkie]

Nope, not gona do it. I want to keep my opinion my own and share it here. I feel that not only am I entitled to my opinion but you are entitled to it too.
I would rather be sitting my closet with my narrow mindedness than open my understanding to include your understanding of anything. I'm having enough trouble rationalizing the way I think now, imagine what that would do to me if I thought like you too. Cripes! What if everyone did that? There would be so much confusion in the world. Everyone thinking all the thoughts of everyone else? No sir. That way leads to madness.
Thanks, but I will stay the way I am, just like you are staying the way you are. Now, aren't we nice and comfier?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IjHBMR1VcU

[Horza]

Nope, not gona do it. I want to keep my opinion my own and share it here. I feel that not only am I entitled to my opinion but you are entitled to it too.
I would rather be sitting my closet with my narrow mindedness than open my understanding to include your understanding of anything. I'm having enough trouble rationalizing the way I think now, imagine what that would do to me if I thought like you too. Cripes! What if everyone did that? There would be so much confusion in the world. Everyone thinking all the thoughts of everyone else? No sir. That way leads to madness.
Thanks, but I will stay the way I am, just like you are staying the way you are. Now, aren't we nice and comfier?

[Horza]

Didnt read anything in stupid horza thread lol

[Wonkie]

Didnt read anything in stupid horza thread lol

https://i.imgur.com/UIH1TOD.jpg

[bradsamma]

So many Trump supporting incels here....

It's sickening.

[Patriam1066]

Fascism is legitimate. Bring on birth licensing and BMI monitoring

[Teppler]

Fascism is legitimate. Bring on birth licensing and BMI monitoring

Foreign elites sticking their head in everyone else’s business makes a good case for it. Where bankers can buy politicians off, it pays to have a figure that can tell them to fuck off.

We tried to it with America(staying away from centralized banking) and we had really strong figures who fought against it early on. It only took 1 weak president for the Rothschilds banking system to find its way into America. Ever since the 1910s we’ve been funded by a foreign owned federal reverse bank and we spend trillions every year only paying interest to them.

[Patriam1066]

I embrace fascism because both teppler and Horza will be castrated and conscripted. You’re both more useful ending the yellow menace

[Cecily]

Fascism is legitimate. Bring on birth licensing and BMI monitoring

+1. I'm sick of obese people screaming Liberty when you tell them they're incapable of making their own dietary choices because of... well look at them.

[Teppler]

I embrace fascism because both teppler and Horza will be castrated and conscripted. You’re both more useful ending the yellow menace

What exactly did I say that’s so bad? Why will I be conscripted and not you?

[Patriam1066]

I’m an elite

[Wonkie]

I’m an elite

Under capitalism grampa

[Horza]

I embrace fascism because teppler will be castrated and conscripted.

[Jimjam]

Foreign elites sticking their head in everyone else’s business makes a good case for it. Where bankers can buy politicians off, it pays to have a figure that can tell them to fuck off.

We tried to it with America(staying away from centralized banking) and we had really strong figures who fought against it early on. It only took 1 weak president for the Rothschilds banking system to find its way into America. Ever since the 1910s we’ve been funded by a foreign owned federal reverse bank and we spend trillions every year only paying interest to them.
So how do you combat the elite? Avoid debt? Refuse to work for a company that takes on debt and has opaque ownership? Don't pay tax that the government will hand straight over to a corrupt finance industry?

[Horza]

So how do you combat the elite? Avoid debt? Refuse to work for a company that takes on debt and has opaque ownership? Don't pay tax that the government will hand straight over to a corrupt finance industry?

[Teppler]

So how do you combat the elite? Avoid debt? Refuse to work for a company that takes on debt and has opaque ownership? Don't pay tax that the government will hand straight over to a corrupt finance industry?

The first step is information. They must guard themselves. It's very useful to them when the common people fight each other and don't look at how they are being exploited. Race scandals, mass shootings, presidential elections, these types of things really rile the common people up and keep them fighting each other. Media, schools and politics are pushed in a certain direction. Information is key on learning how and why. And you help others learn. They absolutely hate when a light is being shown on them. That's what I see the Trump scandal about now. A major crime of the democrats, who are owned by global elites, in Sorosville(Ukraine) is being publicly pointed out. It's all hands on deck with the bought media and politicians to deflect information about that story becoming public knowledge and instead they want the story to be 100% 'Trump committed a crime and he needs to be impeached'. It's very easy to see who is a good guy and who is a bad guy when you watch this unfold. One side is uncovering a theft of 1 billion dollars from the tax payers by the elites. The other is trying to obscure that crime and punish the people bringing it to public knowledge. Again, not a hard judgement here.

You simply have to learn how they are exploiting. And that takes a lot. Learning about economics, accounting, physics, history... it all matters. Here's a weakness, they don't produce anything.

The founding fathers of America were great men. If you think about it, America's creation was about getting away from a form of globalist exploitation. It was about unfair taxing. America didn't have a strong central bank for a long time. The creation of the federal reserve is a very sad story the founding fathers would die again to hear.

Thomas Jefferson once remarked, “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure" and that "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion,”. They tried to make documents that would stand the test of time to defend against the very assaults from would be elite powers infringing on the common man like they so commonly did. There's assaults against them today. Right to bear arms. That's meant to stop unjust ruling and keep the public with fangs. We didn't have mass shootings in the 50-60s. What happened?

The federal reserve was something elite powers tried to bring into America many times. The founding fathers never wanted that and now we owe who 22 trillion dollars and are paying insane amounts of interest every year? Many foreign wars and propaganda are about establishing their banks around the world. What do they create though, at the end of the day?

[Baler]

They got him THIS TIME,
They got him THIS TIME,
They got him THIS TIME,
They got him THIS TIME,
uhh

[Horza]

A major crime of the democrats, who are owned by global elites, in Sorosville(Ukraine) is being publicly pointed out.

George Soros was originally from Hungary, not Ukraine.

[Baler]

Whistler blower be like,.. Hey uhh trump can I blow the whistle on you?

YEAH THAT'LL BE GREAT FOR 2020 REELECTION

[Horza]

You seem upset, Baler.

[Baler]

You seem upset, Baler.

all gucci over here nephew

[Wonkie]

One side is uncovering a theft of 1 billion dollars from the tax payers by the elites.

Red team passed a corporate tax cut wildly exceeding this also bribes and diplomacy are the same thing

We didn't have mass shootings in the 50-60s. What happened?

Kent State

The founding fathers never wanted that and now we owe who 22 trillion dollars and are paying insane amounts of interest

c'mon mr budget man how much are the payments and what % of government spending do they represent?

[rebeccablack]

One side is uncovering a theft of 1 billion dollars from the tax payers by the elites.
still waiting for some evidence of this.

[Zeboim]

The only halfway credible figure I've seen is 50k a month in some kinda payola scheme. Bad and smelly, but orders of magnitude less.

[Teppler]

still waiting for some evidence of this.

Lol

https://i.ibb.co/JBswL24/biden5.png

Show me the quote of trump doing this.

[rebeccablack]

any actual proof of taxpayer money being stolen or no?

[Horza]

He's getting some seriously insane mileage out of that 4chan jpg.

[KansasComrade]

any actual proof of taxpayer money being stolen or no?

What, I suppose you think you can't just take a picture of Joey B. and put text over it?

(I'm not saying that did or didn't happen, but that is the farthest from proof it gets)

[Domo]

serious question:

why do people believe an impeachment will happen?

From my understanding to impeach Trump 2/3 of the senate will have to vote for it right?
But the GOP is having the majority in the senate.
And the GOP appears like putting Trump and party before country.
Therefor an impeachment looks like impossible?!

I mean I didnt saw a single report about any republican whos unhappy with Trump, or who cares if Trump broke any law.

Do I see this correct, or did I miss something?

[Horza]

serious question:

why do people believe an impeachment will happen?

When the full House votes on articles of impeachment, if at least one gets a majority vote, the president is impeached — which is essentially the equivalent of being indicted. Next, the proceedings move to the Senate, which is to hold a trial overseen by the chief justice of the United States. (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/24/us/politics/impeachment-trump-explained.html)

[feniin]

serious question:

why do people believe an impeachment will happen?

From my understanding to impeach Trump 2/3 of the senate will have to vote for it right?
But the GOP is having the majority in the senate.
And the GOP appears like putting Trump and party before country.
Therefor an impeachment looks like impossible?!

I mean I didnt saw a single report about any republican whos unhappy with Trump, or who cares if Trump broke any law.

Do I see this correct, or did I miss something?

Impeachment is basically being put on trial. He will be impeached by the House. He will more than likely not be convicted by the Senate because the rule of law doesn't matter and the turtle in charge of the place is fine letting congress be subservient.

[zodium]

imo the first part of article two clause five to the united states constitution effectively prohibits any man of sound faculties from taking the presidency.

[Patriam1066]

imo the first part of article two clause five to the united states constitution effectively prohibits any man of sound faculties from taking the presidency.

Thanks for speaking English. Your sons will be conquered, as were your ancestors. Roma victor

[Snagglepuss]

Proud to say I pulled my first Republican primary ballot to vote for Trump! Followed it up with a vote in general! I can’t wait to do it again.

Since when did the Democratic Party become the party of corporate America, private equity executives, woke millennials and minorities? The virtue signaling has gone too far.

[Horza]

Since when did the Democratic Party become the party of corporate America

Wall Street's Democratic donors reportedly warned they'll back Trump over Elizabeth Warren. (https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/wall-street-democrats-warn-support-donald-trump-over-elizabeth-warren-2019-9-1028558921)

[Teppler]

This is a throw away year for the democrats. None of their sorry candidates is getting anywhere close to beating trump. The whole party might as well win some brownie points in the process with these fake threats of breaking up big businesses.

[Teppler]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AI5z5VQhkFU

Check out this authentic moment from a real authentic person Elizabeth Warren. Just doing authentic things like grabbing a beer like any other fellow American.

This would be funny if I didn’t realize how they are getting ready to fuck the common man again.

[Wonkie]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AI5z5VQhkFU

Check out this authentic moment from a real authentic person Elizabeth Warren. Just doing authentic things like grabbing a beer like any other fellow American.

This would be funny if I didn’t realize how they are getting ready to fuck the common man again.

Yeah politicians have to play pretend like they're as dumb as the electorate. It's good it's inauthentic.

[Zeboim]

I wish I could enjoy anything in the world as much as The Five enjoy the taste of Trump's boots.

[Horza]

youtube

Fox's The Five completely implode when called out for mirroring White House talking points. (https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-panel-explodes-when-juan-williams-accuses-colleagues-of-peddling-white-house-talking-points)

[feniin]

Fox's The Five completely implode when called out for mirroring White House talking points. (https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-panel-explodes-when-juan-williams-accuses-colleagues-of-peddling-white-house-talking-points)

Hahahahaha - they got awfully defensive

[Teppler]

Remember that time every democrat media outlet at once called Trumps address of America “dark and bleak” randomly at the same time? It sure was one he’ll of a coincidence.

[Horza]

Hahahahaha - they got awfully defensive

Are you saying I got talking points? You got to answer to the accusation!

[Teppler]

So is this kind of what you are accusing that fox show of?

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-J0y-vone8Js/V5P6T_tEkDI/AAAAAAAAvFw/gOKXddPExnMs7VuYvJ7jCFZ88i-uceU5gCLcB/s1600/TrumpDarkCollage.jpg

[feniin]

So is this kind of what you are accusing that fox show of?

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-J0y-vone8Js/V5P6T_tEkDI/AAAAAAAAvFw/gOKXddPExnMs7VuYvJ7jCFZ88i-uceU5gCLcB/s1600/TrumpDarkCollage.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khbihkeOISc

[Teppler]

Oh no no no

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s son Paul Pelosi Jr. visited Ukraine in 2017 to meet with government officials in connection to a business initiative. Now, unearthed records reveal that Paul Pelosi Jr. was an executive of a gas industry company that did business in Ukraine – and his mother Nancy Pelosi was featured in one of the company’s promotional videos.
https://nationalfile.com/breaking-nancy-pelosis-son-was-exec-at-gas-company-that-did-business-in-ukraine/

Energy company Viscoil listed as FTB/Suspended, which means it was suspended by the CA Secretary of State.
https://www.ca-registry.com/C3302027-viscoil-ml-l-inc

Viscoil involved Russian SERGEY SOROKIN
https://businesssearch.sos.ca.gov/Document/RetrievePDF?Id=200930910003-12222900

Pelosi Junior's previous company, Natural Blue Resources, was suspended by the FEC for fraud, and employing two men illegally who were convicted of fraud and GRAND LARCENY.
https://www.sec.gov/litigation/admin/2018/33-10598.pdf

[Horza]

Teppler, can I just say that your taste in wingnut conspiracy websites is spectacular?

Family of Girl Murdered by ‘Cannibal Mafia’ Will Release Photos if Immigration Laws Reversed. (https://nationalfile.com/italy-family-of-girl-murdered-by-cannibal-mafia-will-release-photos-if-immigration-laws-reversed/)

Two Survivors of the Pulse Nightclub Terror Attack Survivors ‘Embrace Jesus,’ No Longer Gay. (https://nationalfile.com/pulse-attack-survivors-embrace-jesus-no-longer-gay/)

Pedophiles, Abortion Fetishists, Deliberate Amputations, Zoophiles, and the Rise of Internet Degeneracy. (https://nationalfile.com/pedophiles-abortion-fetishists-deliberate-amputations-zoophiles-and-the-rise-of-internet-degeneracy/)

[feniin]

Convenient how Teppler posts his bullshit and then ignores the video I linked.

[Wonkie]

https://i.imgur.com/CCxNBli.jpg

[Vasarious]

Teppler, can I just say that your taste in wingnut conspiracy websites is spectacular?

Family of Girl Murdered by ‘Cannibal Mafia’ Will Release Photos if Immigration Laws Reversed. (https://nationalfile.com/italy-family-of-girl-murdered-by-cannibal-mafia-will-release-photos-if-immigration-laws-reversed/)

Two Survivors of the Pulse Nightclub Terror Attack Survivors ‘Embrace Jesus,’ No Longer Gay. (https://nationalfile.com/pulse-attack-survivors-embrace-jesus-no-longer-gay/)

Pedophiles, Abortion Fetishists, Deliberate Amputations, Zoophiles, and the Rise of Internet Degeneracy. (https://nationalfile.com/pedophiles-abortion-fetishists-deliberate-amputations-zoophiles-and-the-rise-of-internet-degeneracy/)

I forgot about this thread. Teppler, there is no reasoning with willful ignorance or fanatic zealotry. When confronted with irrifutible facts, they resort to deflecting or attacking the messenger. See above example of both wrapped into one. Never you mind about the truth about ol Paul Jr., that's easily ignored if you close your eyes, ears and mind.

There is no independent thought or simple rationality. When confronted with reality there is a uniform reaction: the contrived talking points and marching orders that they all pick up "coincidentally", yet are uniform across the board. You've already mentioned that.

To them, Adam Schiff is to be revered and emulated. Who needs to tell the truth when you have zombies who hang on every word because they want to believe so badly that they believe anything that makes them feel good which with the left means being filled with rage and bitterness. Not how i would want to live but hey, i guess if i was also a disappointment to myself I might feel the same way. TDS is real.

The only reason i can see to engage is that maybe someone who doesn't follow current events will see what is going on in the world and be coherent enough to see facts for what they are. Getting through to these guys frothing at the mouth is an excersise in futility i think.

[Teppler]

I agree there’s no reasoning with Horza types. I just like to mock his views.

[Zeboim]

I know right, you just can't reason with some people. Now read my 10 post chain from larouche.net about how Jef Epstein and the jews did 9/11.

[Teppler]

I know right, you just can't reason with some people. Now read my 10 post chain from larouche.net about how Jef Epstein and the jews did 9/11.

So I'm a racist against Jews when I point out in great detail the major players and steps to commit 9/11.

But I suppose you're not a racist when you pin it on ghetto ass muslims and then have their countries invaded and destroyed on that judgement.

Bin Laden never took credit for 9/11 either. Check out his comments(not easy to find).

[Horza]

Will you not heed his warnings of the vicious Cannibal Mafia, Zeboim?

[Teppler]

Wow Osama Bin Ladens comments are pretty much scrubbed from the internet. Luckily I still have them-

"I was not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States nor did I have knowledge of the attacks. There exists a government within a government within the United States. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself... That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks. ... The American system is totally in control of the Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States."

This was Osama's quote, not my personal opinion.

Did anyone ever have any proof that Osama and Al Queda did it? If so what is the proof?

[Zeboim]

Cool story bro

[Teppler]

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/04/heres-why-trumps-poll-numbers-are-defying-the-impeachment-mess.html

But through all of this, Trump’s approval rating is at its highest level of the year according to the Hill-HarrisX survey, and the other major polls taken since this Ukraine phone call whistleblower story emerged show few changes from the last surveys taken before the news broke.

Oh no :(

[feniin]

doubling down on stupidity is always a great move. can't wait for all of you guys to come out and say you never supported Trump :)

[tsuchang]

I support PRESIDENT Trump all the way. Unless he really screws up that is. That would have to be something like, oh, I don't know......, not building the wall or draining the swamp.
I didn't vote him in as Saint Donald, I voted for him to be president over Hillery Clinton. I would have voted for Romney over Hillary but I would have held my nose like I did when I voted for him against former president obama.

[feniin]

I support PRESIDENT Trump all the way. Unless he really screws up that is. That would have to be something like, oh, I don't know......, not building the wall or draining the swamp.
I didn't vote him in as Saint Donald, I voted for him to be president over Hillery Clinton. I would have voted for Romney over Hillary but I would have held my nose like I did when I voted for him against former president obama.

More criminal convictions in his administration than any president in history, I think. Sounds like he brought swamp creatures along with him.

[Vasarious]

doubling down on stupidity is always a great move.

Very true. 4 Russia investigations - house intel, senate judiciary, doj, and the slam dunk muller report all proved...wait what..innocence?

Now the 'explosove' non-whistleblower whistleblower will surely prove that they are...wait, what?...a partisan registered democrat? Who woulda thunk. At least we can believe their information gained via 2nd and 3rd hand! Wait, a transcript was released? What the whistleblower said wasn't true? Say it isn't so. At least there's trusty Adam Schiff, he's on the up and up, we can rely on him surely! O wait he got busted lying too? Twice? What he read aloud in congress was a "creative rendition" of what happened I'm sure! At least he didn't know about this person's complaint before hand, he even told us so. He didn't even know what it was all about when it was made public. Can you imagine how it would be if he did? Man that would be terrible. Wait, this supposed whistleblower DID come to Schiff's office weeks prior to it becoming public? This person DIDN'T take the proper channels and go to the assigned IG? At least our honest intel chair didn't help him write his report..o wait, he did?

Surely Nancy Pelosi will save us...

Wow, even the Washingtion Post reported on this stuff. Should make a movie about this. Would be quite a thriller. Even Hollywood hasn't had an idea this wild. Truth is stranger than fiction. Wonder what the next chapter in the derangement saga to nowhere will bring. It's sure to come because as you say, doubling down on stupidity is always a great move. And quite entertaining.

[Horza]

What exactly is a non-whistleblower whistleblower, is that like the sound of one hand clapping?

[Wonkie]

you see, the REAL scandal here, is Liddle'(what?) adam schiff telling people about all the crimes Trump did

4d chess!

[Horza]

Don't even get me started on his spelling.

muller

:confused:

explosove

:(

Washingtion

:mad:

[Wonkie]

the fuck is this Tex? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustus_Sol_Invictus

[Videri]

Look, I changed everything I said just to fuck with you guys.

[Wonkie]

Have any of you ever changed your mind about anything as a result of these forum threads? How can you have a productive discussion when the other side doesn’t even believe in the same facts or news sources?

Yes. But it's a dying breed that's willing to share their personal pain with the greater web. It takes a bright soul to endure the slings and arrows and suffer through the change.

[Horza]

Have any of you ever changed your mind about anything as a result of these forum threads? How can you have a productive discussion when the other side doesn’t even believe in the same facts or news sources?

I don't really think that there are just two sides, and if anything I'm angrier at the Democrats than Republicans.

[Videri]

I guess what I mean is, aren’t the right-wing nuts wrong because they don’t believe what’s on the Real Actual News? And they believe stuff they read on these wacky little text-only sites that don’t cite real sources? I’m not the crazy one...am I??

[tsuchang]

Yeah Videri, you may be.
Well, maybe not the only one, probably not, cuz if there is one, then there are probably more so I take it back. Ya arn't the only one, so, nope yer not, yer in a big group of crazies that have TDS. There is a cure but I don't know what it is. Or, maybe there isn't.
Any way, If you stop listening to the TV and Radio, stop looking at these asinine posts like this one you would be better off.
I took a trip to Oregon, (what a cesspit of liberalism that is), and didn't listen to the radio or TV, Just read fantasy and played this game for entertainment the whole week. I came home refreshed.

[AenorVZ]

I won't even try to defend Biden; fuck that guy.

Word on the street is Biden is cooked. Insiders have already conceded the nomination to Warren.

[Patriam1066]

I guess what I mean is, aren’t the right-wing nuts wrong because they don’t believe what’s on the Real Actual News? And they believe stuff they read on these wacky little text-only sites that don’t cite real sources? I’m not the crazy one...am I??

I voted for TRUMP but won’t repear that mistake in 2020. I don’t credit these forums; I’m honorable, intelligent, pragmatic, and sane, I just naturally gravitate towards right wing thinking because I understand adversity actually prepares us for life. Unfortunately, the republicans have, for a long time, been a reactionary party of pro-war, anti-science morons who set the country back decades, whereas the Dems, since the Clinton era, have actually adopted Eisenhower era (sane) republican, center-right positions. I really don’t know how we get back to a place where we have a conservative, pro-market economy party and a sane center-left party looking out for labor and keeping business honest. It will take a man forged by adversity. I feel confident that we will know him when he rises.

[Patriam1066]

the fuck is this Tex? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustus_Sol_Invictus

Great name. But he isn’t worthy of the cognomen

[DMN]

patriam likes him some blue pills. yeehaw.

[Teppler]

Patriam is a politician's dream. Doesn't look too deep into anything. Mocks people who do.

[tsuchang]

I really don’t know how we get back to a place where we have a conservative, pro-market economy party and a sane center-left party looking out for labor and keeping business honest. It will take a man forged by adversity. I feel confident that we will know him when he rises.

I agree with some of this. Your bias is shown by the red letter words.
What I agree with is the "forged by adversity" part. That is President Trump.

[Horza]

What I agree with is the "forged by adversity" part. That is President Trump.

Trump's 'small' loan from his father was more like $60.7 million. (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/02/trumps-small-loan-from-his-father-was-more-like-60point7-million-nyt.html)

[Wonkie]

I agree with some of this. Your bias is shown by the red letter words.
What I agree with is the "forged by adversity" part. That is President Trump.

a particularly stupid grandpa

[Zeboim]

In what universe is someone handed 400 million dollars (inflation adjusted) by Daddy 'Forged by Adversity'? And he still manages to hit 6 bankruptcies.

[Wonkie]

In what universe is someone handed 400 million dollars (inflation adjusted) by Daddy 'Forged by Adversity'? And he still manages to hit 6 bankruptcies.

Corporate bankruptcies are way different than personal bankruptcies. It's a bit of a scam.

Bad president

[feniin]

Maybe he'll flee the country and live in exile like so many of Paul Manafort's clients:

Ferdinand Marcos - Authoritarian leader of the Philippines 1965-1986. His regime was famous for its corruption and extreme brutality, and supported by the US government. In 1986 Marcos fled the Philippines with his stolen wealth and was granted asylum by the US government, where he lived the rest of his life in exile.

Mobutu Sese Soko - Military dictator of DRC / Zaire 1965-1997. Seized power through military coup d'etat. The classic African dictator - deeply criminal but willing to be a US ally, Mobutu destroyed his country through nepotism and embezzlement. In 1997 Mobutu fled Zaire and lived the rest of his life in exile.

Siad Barre - President of Somalia 1969-1991. Seized power through coup d'etat. Regime characterized by widespread human rights abuses and authoritarian rule. In 1991 Barre fled Somalia and lived the rest of his life in exile.

Viktor Yanukovych - President of Ukraine 2010-2014. In 2014 Yanukovych fled Ukraine; he is currently wanted for treason and is living in Russia, in exile.

Donald Trump - President of the United States 2017-present.

[Canelek]

Forged by adversity. That's cute. Trump is forged by country clubs and incest.

[Videri]

Ya arn't the only one, so, nope yer not, yer in a big group of crazies that have TDS.

Excuse me, I was deranged BEFORE Trump was elected.

[Patriam1066]

We’re allowing turkey to invade Syria. Wow. Trump is really really bad. Him and pence both need to be impeached ASAP to prevent WW3

[Teppler]

We’re allowing turkey to invade Syria. Wow. Trump is really really bad. Him and pence both need to be impeached ASAP to prevent WW3

https://i.ibb.co/C2nFShD/LORDTRUMP.png

Based. Leader of the free world delegating to the lesser nations.

[Horza]

Based. Leader of the free world delegating to the lesser nations.

Delegating the ethnic cleansing of our allies?

[Kubaton]

You anti Trump people are hands down incorrigible. Its scary how short sighted yall are.. Zero depth

[Domo]

You anti Trump people are hands down incorrigible. Its scary how short sighted yall are.. Zero depth

And you`re so deep in his ass that you didnt seen the sun for 3 years.

[Zeboim]

What the fuck does our great leader with his "great and unmatched wisdom" mean by saying he has destroyed Turkey's economy before?

[Teppler]

What the fuck does our great leader with his "great and unmatched wisdom" mean by saying he has destroyed Turkey's economy before?

He’s warning you not to make him do it again. I would heed his warning if I were you tbqh.

[Horza]

our great leader with his "great and unmatched wisdom"

[Zeboim]

He’s warning you not to make him do it again. I would heed his warning if I were you tbqh.

He's destroyed the economy of a NATO ally before?

[Teppler]

He's destroyed the economy of a NATO ally before?

https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/mitt_romney_trump.jpg

[Zeboim]

Oh okay

[Horza]

Ben Garrison has totally ruined parody.

[Patriam1066]

https://i.ibb.co/C2nFShD/LORDTRUMP.png

Based. Leader of the free world delegating to the lesser nations.

?

Delegating “regional security” in a theatre fraught with potential violence isn’t a great option, unless you believe Iran, Saudi Arabia, Israel, and turkey are all led by stable geniuses just like our President. Regardless of your opinion on that, we really fucked over the Syrian Kurds. It was a real shitty and unamerican thing to do. Neither TRUMP, nor you, will enter Valhalla

[Patriam1066]

Great and unmatched wisdom:

“What does it take to be a G? Silence is a must, violence is a plus.”
-Tupac

[thedonkdonk]

Ben Garrison has totally ruined parody.


A Trump supporter is racist!? How unique and shocking!

[tsuchang]

Trump's 'small' loan from his father was more like $60.7 million. (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/02/trumps-small-loan-from-his-father-was-more-like-60point7-million-nyt.html)

Was it his father's money or did he extort it from the government of some country?

[tsuchang]

a particularly stupid grandpa

Thanks Wonkie!
Kind words from you.

[tsuchang]

Excuse me, I was deranged BEFORE Trump was elected.

OK, I bow to your expertise on this subject.

[Wonkie]

?

Delegating “regional security” in a theatre fraught with potential violence isn’t a great option, unless you believe Iran, Saudi Arabia, Israel, and turkey are all led by stable geniuses just like our President. Regardless of your opinion on that, we really fucked over the Syrian Kurds. It was a real shitty and unamerican thing to do. Neither TRUMP, nor you, will enter Valhalla

we left them to die.

[Zeboim]

Stabbed em in the back for good measure.

[Bazia]

no commies are friends of the us, they were associates of convenience as they *at best* created headaches for a political rival's vassal state within the region

what little successes they ever had were at the monetary expense of the american taxpayer as our financial and operational support of them could really not be perceived as anything other than yet ANOTHER money laundering operation (as almost all foreign conflicts are) where wealth is redistributed from the american tax payer to the contracted military industrial arms manufacturing complex utilizing vague nonsensical emotional appeals in the media

the media is complicit in it's support of our military industrial complex, just two industries under the same oligarchal umbrella

look at the support they can astroturf by just handing out a few scripts to their hired talking heads on day time tv, the average person talking about this subject knows next to nothing about our formerly *convenient* relationship with the kurdish communists and just saw some old jewish lady and meghan mccain crying about it on the view and suddenly develop a coincidentally identical opinion to the paid performer

makes you wonder just how many institutions and industries are under a singular elite oligarchal umbrella

[Wonkie]

Lend-lease was also money laundering, if we're using retard logic

[Bazia]

Lend-lease was also money laundering, if we're using retard logic

well they exaggerate some theatrical bullshit and then are freely allowed (even encouraged!) to hand trillions of americans tax dollars to defense contracting oligarchs where it often disappears... hmmm not sure what else to call it frankly

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kotlikoff/2019/01/09/holding-u-s-treasuries-beware-uncle-sam-cant-account-for-21-trillion/#1268e4b57644

army "lost" 2.1 trillion dollars of our money, mostly in contractual disputes but these boomers "MUH KURDS! MUH ALLIES! WRITE A NEW CHECK! THE VIEW TOLD ME WE NEED TO WRITE THAT CHECK RIGHT NOW! SEND LOCKHEED MARTIN A FRESH CONTRACT TO PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR OUR ALLIES"

it's all so tiresome

[Horza]

well they exaggerate some theatrical bullshit

Some exaggerated theatrical bullshit like defeating ISIS.

[feniin]

So glad so many more of these brain dead Trumpists have come out of the woodworks to defend their infallible leader.

He treats our allies like he does anyone who does business with him and his companies. He uses them until he no longer needs them and then leaves them worse off than when he met them.

Refuses to pay any debts. Leaves allies defenseless. Lowers any sort of credibility we have internationally. Really great choice you morons made. Guess you'll support him defying the Constitution and obstructing justice at every turn, too.

[BlackBellamy]

Refuses to pay any debts. Leaves allies defenseless. Lowers any sort of credibility we have internationally.

I don't support Trump personally but I would vote for anyone who promises to destroy this country. It's about time to put this myth of representative democracy to rest and burn it all to the ground. The best soil for growing contains lots and lots of ash.

[feniin]

I don't support Trump personally but I would vote for anyone who promises to destroy this country. It's about time to put this myth of representative democracy to rest and burn it all to the ground. The best soil for growing contains lots and lots of ash.

You sound like an angsty teenager. Guess it's fitting for a 20 year old elf sim to have people stuck in 1999 emotionally.

[Patriam1066]

Turkey is openly saying it will resettle 3.6 million Arab refugees in a region with 2 million Kurds and 300,000 Christians. That’s essentially ethnic cleansing by dilution. How could that possibly be justified?

[Teppler]

we left them to die.

The Middle East is not our mess to be involved in. In fact we have our own business, crimes against our state that are not being taken care of.

Why is our military not on the southern border of America where we are facing an invasion of criminals steadily dripping in?

Why is the expansion of Israel in the Middle East more important than dealing with people committing direct crimes against our state.

We have little to no business in the Middle East. We are not and should not be the world police. We have our own problems. We’ve killed hundreds of thousands and have thousands of our own die as well. For what?

[feniin]

Turkey is openly saying it will resettle 3.6 million Arab refugees in a region with 2 million Kurds and 300,000 Christians. That’s essentially ethnic cleansing by dilution. How could that possibly be justified?

Because Trump willed it, obviously. Don't ask Hippler to have any compassion for our former allies. We used them and left them to die because Trump is a simpleton pawn.

[Teppler]

From what I understand, turkey deals with all sorts of Syrian bullshit partly because of the eu and they are taking control of the situation despite the attempted propaganda from screeching leftists. Eu wants Syria war torn and invaded by zionist forces. From what I understand Erdgodan is stabilizing the area and he has incentive to do so for his own countries health. Trump says he’s monitoring the situation as well so that there is no excessive brutality.

It’s probably similar to the southern border of the us where we could rightfully annex Mexico because of all their drug cartel problems and illegal immigration flooding over. Mexican leaders clearly can’t handle the crime in their own country and it spills over into America. That’s justification to take action.

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Mexico/United-States/Crime

Oh i dunno, Mexico seem to be doing ok on crime really given their hand.

[feniin]

From what I understand

Doesn't seem like you understand anything at all about international politics or maintaining alliances.

[Patriam1066]

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Mexico/United-States/Crime

Oh i dunno, Mexico seem to be doing ok on crime really given their hand.

America has 88 guns per 100 residents

[feniin]

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Mexico/United-States/Crime

Oh i dunno, Mexico seem to be doing ok on crime really given their hand.

Hitler Youth Teppler Sinix doesn't know anything about Mexico other than what Fox News and Breitbart tell him. Basically he hears about Ciudad Juarez and Tijuana being dangerous and thinks that's the entire country when they're major outliers like Detroit and Baltimore.

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

"world's largest consumer of cocaine (shipped from Colombia through Mexico and the Caribbean), Colombian heroin, and Mexican heroin and marijuana; major consumer of ecstasy and Mexican methamphetamine; minor consumer of high-quality Southeast Asian heroin; illicit producer of cannabis, marijuana, depressants, stimulants, hallucinogens, and methamphetamine; money-laundering center"

Maybe if Trump cracked down on cocaine there wouldn't be such a market for it. And er every other major drug it seems <_<

No wonder there are 88 guns per 100 people if that much cocaine is going around jesus.

[Wonkie]

numbers are stupid

[Teppler]

If Mexico has its shit together then why are they constantly fleeing for a better life in America? Do you know how many illegal immigrants come over every day? How desperate they are to flee their country? Have you ever heard of a white america fleeing to Mexico for better economic conditions? Furthermore why can’t mexico solve its crime problem they are causing at the border? You guys are a riot. Welcome to reality.

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

Why can't trump solve the massive drug taking problem.

Come on now. I'm willing to admit the UK has issues it's leaders are unable to solve.

Can't you even give a bit of ground? It's terribly boring debating with someone who clearly thinks there is nothing wrong with their leader.

You just come off as a zealot (EDIT: Or a politician). Very boring.

Drug offences 183,419 per 100,000 people
Ranked 2nd. 327 times more than United States 560.1 per 100,000 people
Ranked 41st.

OOF :D

[Teppler]

Just give the most basic of explanations of why tons of Mexicans flee to America every day if Mexico is so great.

[Wonkie]

Why can't trump solve the massive drug taking problem.



same reason it's good that money is speech - freedom is preferable to the alternative.

[Patriam1066]

If Mexico has its shit together then why are they constantly fleeing for a better life in America? Do you know how many illegal immigrants come over every day? How desperate they are to flee their country? Have you ever heard of a white america fleeing to Mexico for better economic conditions? Furthermore why can’t mexico solve its crime problem they are causing at the border? You guys are a riot. Welcome to reality.

Retirees go to Mexico all the time dumb dumb

Who cares, there are hot Mexican women. Go talk to one and maybe you won’t be so bitter. Latinas don’t have tonsils or an epiglottis, at least that’s my theory because they definitely have no gag reflex

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

He must be a politician. He dodges questions like one deflecting to other subjects.

Mexico probably isn't great compared to USA in some aspects. USA likely has a better welfare system.

If your life is shitty why wouldn't you want to goto another country. Some of the people fleeing are law abiding (well apart from the illegal immigrant part) and have no control over what their government does or doesnt do.

If i lived in Mexico and had a family to feed i would 10000% take my chances. I expect you would to.

Your turn President Teppler

[Green Nec]

Taking drugs is optional people can choose to stop doing it, stop blaming everyone what are you a child?

oh wait nevermind

[Teppler]

Retirees go to Mexico all the time dumb dumb

Who cares, there are hot Mexican women. Go talk to one and maybe you won’t be so bitter. Latinas don’t have tonsils or an epiglottis, at least that’s my theory because they definitely have no gag reflex

I’ve never known of anyone in my entire life retiring to Mexico. There’s plenty of illegal immigrants around where I live though and we developed an MS-13 gang problem over the past 10 years.

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

I’ve never known of anyone in my entire life retiring to Mexico. There’s plenty of illegal immigrants around where I live though and we developed an MS-13 gang problem over the past 10 years.

With a population of 329 million i can see how you would be the authority on knowing who retires to Mexico. I'm sure the sample of "people you know" is an authoritive source.

Additional: Still waiting to hear why trump cant solve the drug taking problem. Or gasp could it be that you have no answer because its not as simple as you think. Perhaps there are latent problems like people are miserable and need drugs to get through their lives like every other country on earth. Can you imagine a nation going cold turkey. Those guns would sure get put to some use then.

[BlackBellamy]

You sound like an angsty teenager. Guess it's fitting for a 20 year old elf sim to have people stuck in 1999 emotionally.

Oh no bruh, you gotta go way farther than that. My emotional development stopped on May 21st, 1982 in the Golf Mill Cinema, at around 11:10am, during this moment:

https://i.imgur.com/7JTw5RG.jpg

[Teppler]

He must be a politician. He dodges questions like one deflecting to other subjects.

Mexico probably isn't great compared to USA in some aspects. USA likely has a better welfare system.

If your life is shitty why wouldn't you want to goto another country. Some of the people fleeing are law abiding (well apart from the illegal immigrant part) and have no control over what their government does or doesnt do.

If i lived in Mexico and had a family to feed i would 10000% take my chances. I expect you would to.

Your turn President Teppler

If I were a low class Mexican I would 100% flee to America.

Why?

#1- There’s little to no border security in America. You can walk right over. Hundreds of thousands have done it. It’s no big deal. To sum this up. There’s no risk.

#2- america is a much better country. We aren’t run by violent cartels, we have nice medicine, jobs, welfare and a lot of our politicians protect your stealing.

If you’re a low class Mexican and your life sucks and you see others getting away with stealing, why wouldn’t you do the same? Where’s the risk?

Now if I steal in my current real life I go to prison, get something on my record. My life is ruined.

Someone is enforcing the idea that I can’t steal but these other people can. It’s not the low class Mexicans fault or responsibility really. It’s American and Mexican leaders. It’s our politicians responsibility to come up with a plan to stop this stealing from taking place and put that plan into action via law enforcement aka our taxes.

[feniin]

I’ve never known of anyone in my entire life retiring to Mexico. There’s plenty of illegal immigrants around where I live though and we developed an MS-13 gang problem over the past 10 years.

My grandpa has a house in Baja?

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

Yep nailed it. He is a politician.

And wtf is "nice medicine"

Im honestly starting to think we are dealing the actual Donald Trump here.

Come to america, we have nice medicine, the best medicine you've ever seen. I should know, i know more about medicine than anyone. Thats a fact.

[feniin]

If I were a low class Mexican I would 100% flee to America.

Why?

#1- There’s little to no border security in America. You can walk right over. Hundreds of thousands have done it. It’s no big deal. To sum this up. There’s no risk.

#2- america is a much better country. We aren’t run by violent cartels, we have nice medicine, jobs, welfare and a lot of our politicians protect your stealing.

If you’re a low class Mexican and your life sucks and you see others getting away with stealing, why wouldn’t you do the same? Where’s the risk?

Now if I steal in my current real life I go to prison, get something on my record. My life is ruined.

Someone is enforcing the idea that I can’t steal but these other people can. It’s not the low class Mexicans fault or responsibility really. It’s American and Mexican leaders. It’s our politicians responsibility to come up with a plan to stop this stealing from taking place and put that plan into action via law enforcement aka our taxes.
You are so dumb. It actually pains me to read your posts.

Mexicans aren't ruining your country or stealing your tax dollars you racist piece of shit. If anyone is stealing your tax dollars it's the billionaires you're propping up by letting idiots like Trump and McConnell allow them to pay zero or negative tax rates.

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

You are so dumb. It actually pains me to read your posts.

Mexicans aren't ruining your country or stealing your tax dollars you racist piece of shit. If anyone is stealing your tax dollars it's the billionaires you're propping up by letting idiots like Trump and McConnell allow them to pay zero or negative tax rates.

Exactly. Immigrants have caused me ZIPPO issues in the UK. Our disgusting leaders have bailing out failing banks. It's literally been proven that immigrants to the UK on average pay way more IN to the economy than out via benefits.

If you want to blame anyone for "taking your jobs" blame the companies who hire the immigrants for cheaper. They are the real enemy. Not the poor people who take them out of desperation.

Disgusting.

[Zeboim]

Lmao

There are plenty of Amerivan retirement communities in Mexico. My parents live in one. It's cheap and they live a lifestyle I'm jealous of. I also get all my dentistry and medicine done in Mexico for a fraction of the price and the same quality. Actually the Mexican dentist is better than most I've had in the states at a tenth of the price.

I love reading Trumpets who have never been to Mexico try to talk shit about it. It's always the funniest shit.

[Zeboim]

Also I'd love to see your dumb ass try and walk across that border. Then again, we'd miss out on your quality posts after you died.

[feniin]

I love reading Trumpets who have never been to Mexico try to talk shit about it. It's always the funniest shit.

It's because they're brown and therefore must be inferior.

[Canelek]

Ah. I thought we were done believing there was a border crisis.

Still no trump-wall though, aside from the ones closing in around him.

[Teppler]

Let’s say it is true that Americans are retiring in Mexico. Let’s pretend that outlandish claim is true for a second, that we have a significant amount of retirees moving there.

Try and figure out the difference between retired Americans going to live out their days in Mexico and compare that to low class Mexicans fleeing to the us. One party in this equation is a tax surplus, the other one draws money from our tax pool. That drain on our tax pool usually multiplies when they have 6-8 kids each that all need state resources, each illegal effectively become a biological bomb that get worse over time. They each cost over 80k in resources over their life times. Do you have any idea how costly this is when you add up every illegal immigrant? And we are not even counting the intangible social demise illegal immigrants cost a society in trouble, heart ache and how they vote for America to be like the place they just fled.

[Zeboim]

Lol

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

Biological bombs. Holy shit.

Haunting. To think some people know this guy in real life.

[Horza]

Let’s say it is true that Americans are retiring in Mexico. Let’s pretend that outlandish claim is true for a second, that we have a significant amount of retirees moving there.

There are 1.5 million Americans living in Mexico, more American expats than any other country in the world. (https://www.businessinsider.com/american-move-to-mexico-2019-5)

[feniin]

There are 1.5 million Americans living in Mexico, more American expats than any other country in the world. (https://www.businessinsider.com/american-move-to-mexico-2019-5)

Hey, let's not let facts get in the way of a good racist tirade.

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

No doubt this source isn't on his allow list from the lizard people.

[Teppler]

Hey, let's not let facts get in the way of a good racist tirade.

Mexico should be kissing our feet then for adding to their economy. Another reason why we should annex Mexico. We add to their economy. Their people drain ours through criminal action.

[Canelek]

Dios mio que chico loco.

[Wonkie]

Mexico should be kissing our feet then for adding to their economy. Another reason why we should annex Mexico. We add to their economy. Their people drain ours through criminal action.

I get 54 billion out of 4 trillion according to Heritage

[Bazia]

mexico is an objective shithole

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/oct/10/bribes-for-public-services-rife-in-latin-america-and-the-caribbean-survey-finds

One in three people across the region paid a bribe in the past year to police, health services or schools, says Transparency International

A report by Transparency International found Mexico has the highest bribery rate in the region, with one of every two people reporting paying bribes

one in two citizens have bribed a public official at least once within the last year, can you imagine what the US would be like if every cop was for sale for for pocket change?

how low is the quality of life in mexico that a cop will take petty cash for a bribe from pretty much anyone? or are they just that immoral and dont really need the money?

confusing

[Bazia]

Let’s say it is true that Americans are retiring in Mexico. Let’s pretend that outlandish claim is true for a second, that we have a significant amount of retirees moving there.

Try and figure out the difference between retired Americans going to live out their days in Mexico and compare that to low class Mexicans fleeing to the us. One party in this equation is a tax surplus, the other one draws money from our tax pool. That drain on our tax pool usually multiplies when they have 6-8 kids each that all need state resources, each illegal effectively become a biological bomb that get worse over time. They each cost over 80k in resources over their life times. Do you have any idea how costly this is when you add up every illegal immigrant? And we are not even counting the intangible social demise illegal immigrants cost a society in trouble, heart ache and how they vote for America to be like the place they just fled.

considering we have nearly 120 million hispanics in the US (most commonly first or second generation mexicans) it really isnt hard to imagine that 1.5 mil would go back to mexico after they have plundered the gringo's chest

[feniin]

mexico is an objective shithole

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/oct/10/bribes-for-public-services-rife-in-latin-america-and-the-caribbean-survey-finds

One in three people across the region paid a bribe in the past year to police, health services or schools, says Transparency International

A report by Transparency International found Mexico has the highest bribery rate in the region, with one of every two people reporting paying bribes

one in two citizens have bribed a public official at least once within a year, can you imagine what the US would be like if every cop was for sale for for pocket change?

how low is the quality of life in mexico that a cop will take petty cash for a bribe from pretty much anyone? or are they just that immoral and dont really need the money?

confusing

How many US politicians take daily bribes to continue passing legislation that negatively affects the populace? Don't see you complaining about that. But you'd rather worry about another country's system (that's pretty common in most underdeveloped nations).

It's because they're brown. You can admit it.