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Valeriya
11-24-2019, 12:56 PM
Your from Germany Domo. Dont you have your own politics to worry about
Teppler
11-24-2019, 12:59 PM
Obamas have so much class.
Trumps are like the Adams family..but without the being cool part
Michelle Obama said she always hated america until Barry Hussein got his hands on it. Such class.
Both the Obama's have scorn against America unless it's them ruling it which is basically doing the bidding of multinational bankers and getting super rich off it.
https://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2017/feb/23/david-clarke-jr/david-clarke-says-michelle-obama-said-she-was-prou/
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/08/us/politics/obama-netflix-shows.html
Trumps wife got fake tits, I dont like fake tits.
Michelle -> Melania on any day.
she also have more class
Teppler
11-24-2019, 01:06 PM
https://i.imgur.com/vmy25Nl.jpg
Melania has breast implants? I remember her tits looking pretty natural. Strange you would focus on that instead of the giant dong Michelle has.
feniin
11-24-2019, 01:11 PM
Teppler, can you at least try to hide your racism?
I remember her tits looking pretty natural
Told ya Michelle got more class
Horza
11-24-2019, 01:47 PM
House Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff said his panel will continue investigating President Trump, asserting there's “overwhelming” evidence that he abused the power of the presidency by pressuring Ukraine’s president to investigate a political rival. (https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/24/schiff-intel-panel-investigate-trump-073308)
BallzDeep
11-24-2019, 01:51 PM
"First of all, you need to realize that academic leftists rarely understand the terms they are using when they attack conservatives. Racism is a specific belief that races can be ranked according to genetically inherited characteristics."
Horza
11-24-2019, 01:54 PM
Is Teppler not being racist really the hill you want to die on?
I highly doubt anyone was systematically killed.
The US had concentration camps just like Germany for their foreign populations. The difference? The allies won the war and could continue to feed their prisoners. The axis were losing on multiple fronts and had supply lines cut off. The Germans couldn’t even feed their own soldiers by the end of the war let alone POWs. Any burning that happened had to do with disinfecting from typhus. Somehow that turned into propaganda about mass burnings alive.
Reality- Auschwitz "holocaust survivor" interviews, in their own words... watch this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enDkqO1OKCc
Orchestras
Painting
Sports
Medical care
Ballet
Beer
Movie theaters
etc.
Was it a “extermination camp"? Or a POW camp where people died towards the end of the war due to starvation and disease? By all realistic accounts German POWs were treated extremely well by POW standards and they tried to keep them alive as long as possible. Hence why all the death pictures of them are skin and bones. Gassing a person doesn’t magically make you skin and bones. That’s what starving does and the Germans were cut off from supply lines. Same thing would of happened to US prisoners if we lost.
BallzDeep
11-24-2019, 01:56 PM
Is Teppler not being racist really the hill you want to die on?
This is just pointing out your further lack of understanding of the definition.
Just because he denies that certain events took place in the Holocaust and how the treatment took place, doesn't make someone racist. It just makes them not believe those events. His own comment is "I doubt anyone was systematically killed." You are stupid and don't understand what racism is.
Horza
11-24-2019, 01:57 PM
I wonder how many posters here actually know the story of what happened to Hitler pre ww2 and how bad the global banks fucked him and Germany. Ever wonder why Hitler is built up as the ultimate evil post ww2? I'll give you a clue, it didn't have anything to do with concentration camps which were all over the world, US included.
After WW1 Germany was responsible for repaying the world basically. This was a deal cut by zionists placed in charge of Germany and they were to deal with other world wide globalist zionist bankers. That situation is fucked for the German people and fucked they became. Germany became a ghetto nation after world war 1. They had no chance to rebuild their country. Any money they made went into paying off interest made on loans Germany had to make to repay the world off of bogus debts. Germany looked like an utterly helpless nation totally and completely owned by banking loan repayment forever.
In comes Hitler. He was loved by the people for giving spirited speeches and rallying these down trodden people. He was an economic genius. He saw the banking system and loans and figured out another way. Hitler introduced a nationalized barter system where people largely traded goods and serves with each others. Germany developed their own form of currency basically, away from the banks. Germany started offering interest free loans with this.
Germany goes from the ghetto of Europe to the world super power within a number of years. All without zionist banking. Germany became so incredibly wealthy that Hitler's government was able to completely and utterly pay off the debts from WW1.
After Hitler repaid Germany's debts to the world, he asked the bankers to please leave germany. He saw the horrible exploitation Germany suffered under bankers regime post WW1 and simply asked them to peacefully leave and take their banking with them. He did not rob them or anything like that. He repaid them fully.
This is what got Hitler in trouble more than anything. He had the gall to say no to globalist banking. Any person or nation that says no to zionist banking is a gigantic threat to their power structure. Their power structure exists by having everyone buy into the value of their worthless paper they call currency that they can print at will. Of course they have many assets behind their wealth but their active power structure is getting people to believe in their currency and the power of their loans. For Hitler to develop a system outside of zionist banking was a disaster for zionists bankers. Imagine if America was next and said they wanted to try their hands without zionist banking? US is the gold calf for these people. Instead they recruited the US to fight against Germany. There became a world wide harassment effort to bring Hitler and Germany to heel and bring back zionist banking as the uninterrupted power source.
After Hitler expelled the bankers, those poor people rallied a world wide harassment effort and surrounded Germany on multiple fronts. Germany takes the bait at some point and there you have the start of WW2. Banker class frames this, with their total control of western media, that Hitler is out of control and an aggressive maniac.
Horza
11-24-2019, 01:59 PM
Just because he denies that certain events took place in the Holocaust and how the treatment took place, doesn't make someone racist.
Nice Holocaust denialism stealth edit, friend.
BallzDeep
11-24-2019, 01:59 PM
Once again, I don't see anything about ranking race and his agreement with that. You are reaching. This also doesn't excuse your overuse of the word because you get something out of it just like Val get's something out of you. I don't really argue to get under peoples skin, not really my thing. Seems redundant and a waste of life.
Horza
11-24-2019, 02:02 PM
There's a more accurate term that I could use to describe Teppler's racist ideology but I'd risk another vacation.
feniin
11-24-2019, 02:07 PM
This is just pointing out your further lack of understanding of the definition.
Just because he denies that certain events took place in the Holocaust and how the treatment took place, doesn't make someone racist. It just makes them not believe those events. His own comment is "I doubt anyone was systematically killed." You are stupid and don't understand what racism is.
He's a holocaust denier. I mean, how much more evidence do you need? Or is it more "birds of a feather" and you're with him?
BallzDeep
11-24-2019, 02:07 PM
There's a more accurate term that I could use to describe Teppler's racist ideology but I'd risk another vacation.
I'm sure it would be subject to your opinion.
Wonkie
11-24-2019, 02:10 PM
"First of all, you need to realize that academic leftists rarely understand the terms they are using when they attack conservatives. Racism is a specific belief that races can be ranked according to genetically inherited characteristics."
Racism has an academic meaning and a lay meaning. One is more useful.
Horza
11-24-2019, 02:12 PM
After Hitler repaid Germany's debts to the world, he asked the bankers to please leave germany, simply asked them to peacefully leave and take their banking with them. He did not rob them or anything like that. This is what got Hitler in trouble more than anything.
zionist banking
zionist banking
zionist banking
world wide globalist zionist bankers
:confused:
Teppler
11-24-2019, 02:13 PM
Uh oh horzas triggered.
BallzDeep
11-24-2019, 02:14 PM
He's a holocaust denier. I mean, how much more evidence do you need? Or is it more "birds of a feather" and you're with him?
Lol I don't need anymore evidence, you obviously do. I let the guy speak for himself and explain what he believes. It doesn't fit any blanket ideology.
If I call someone a leftist in a joking manner and they clarify their position as some other affiliation and I continue to call them a leftist, I'm being redundant. Once you clarify your position, if someone continues to try to speak for you and assume your position, that person is an asshat. It's not that hard to understand.
You argue he is a racist, now it's a denier. He has stated his ideology. IIRC, it is moreover he believes that culture is important and upholding culture. Race and culture can be separate things if you don't know.
Horza
11-24-2019, 02:15 PM
He's a holocaust denier. I mean, how much more evidence do you need? Or is it more "birds of a feather" and you're with him?
Do you really need to ask that second question when it's so blatantly obvious?
https://i.imgur.com/N49DOvR.jpg
feniin
11-24-2019, 02:18 PM
Lol I don't need anymore evidence, you obviously do. I let the guy speak for himself and explain what he believes. It doesn't fit any blanket ideology.
If I call someone a leftist in a joking manner and they clarify their position as some other affiliation and I continue to call them a leftist, I'm being redundant. Once you clarify your position, if someone continues to try to speak for you and assume your position, that person is an asshat. It's not that hard to understand.
You argue he is a racist, now it's a denier. He has stated his ideology. IIRC, it is moreover he believes that culture is important and upholding culture. Race and culture can be separate things if you don't know.
You can be more than one shitty thing. Teppler is a great example of being many shitty things.
BallzDeep
11-24-2019, 02:19 PM
Do you really need to ask that second question when it's so blatantly obvious?
I think that's a relevant question for you. You seem to enjoy the we are the majority posts and Feniin and you constantly need to feel the comfort of using the terms "we" "them."
Horza
11-24-2019, 02:20 PM
Poor Domo has to watch us stupid Americans make the same dumb mistakes that almost wiped out his country.
BallzDeep
11-24-2019, 02:20 PM
https://i.imgur.com/N49DOvR.jpg
Guess Germany doesn't teach you to read between the lines that something can be a mental wall or physical wall. If you can't put in the implied, I'm not sure where you got your education. It would be witty to unintelligent people, I'm sure though.
Hey, its a joke, if you dont understand the joke thats fine, but dont cry mmkay?
Teppler
11-24-2019, 02:24 PM
Yes I would challenge a lot of the “facts” of the holocaust however I won’t here because the mods don’t want it. Horzas probably barking up another ban because he just came off needling this subject just a few days ago. He can’t help himself.
If you want to talk about zionist exploitation of Germany after world war 1, sure.
History is told by the winners. The banker that enslaved post ww1 Germany won and currently have their tentacles in every nation of the world. Just like a mob boss taking their cut. Pre ww2 Germany dared to be independent. People like Horza and feniin do the global bankers bidding. Beware if you are a nationalist that loves their country and wants the best for your citizens. They are the enemy of that.
BallzDeep
11-24-2019, 02:25 PM
But your right, I'm sure Donald Trump was implying at that time "Illegally cross the border by any means necessary!" Good one! Lol, nice job taking the bait. They got you hooked, lined and sinker.
Horza
11-24-2019, 02:29 PM
Yes I would challenge a lot of the “facts” of the holocaust however I won’t here because the mods don’t want it. Horzas probably barking up another ban son because he just came off needling this subject just a few days ago. He can’t help himself.
I can't help myself from pointing out antisemitic conspiracy theories, but at least I don't hide behind the forum moderators if someone asks me to justify my political views.
https://youtu.be/VnT7pT6zCcA?t=10
BallzDeep
11-24-2019, 02:35 PM
I can't help myself from pointing out antisemitic conspiracy theories, but at least I don't hide behind the forum moderators if someone asks me to justify my political views.
Didn't you just refrain from calling Teppler what you thought he philosophically was due to getting banned? You are a weird individual. It's a mystery why some people get some sort of boner out of trying to bait people. If I were anything, it wouldn't be against race but against that culture completely. Legit waste of space.
Teppler
11-24-2019, 02:36 PM
To understand Horza and feniin consider this-
How do you recognise a foundation myth? It fulfils three functions.
1)It explains the origin and structure of the world (and society).
2)It defines ultimate good and evil (and from those definitions are derived the values that are used to justify the holding of power).
3)It determines what is held sacred in that society.
For modern Westerners the story of WWII has become their foundation myth. It fulfils all three functions.
1)We live in the ‘Post-War World’. The lines on the map, the institutions, the sense of what era we live in, all arise from the starting point of WWII.
2)Ultimate evil is Nazis. Ultimate good is opposing Nazis. The values derived from these definitions are anti-racism, equality, diversity, anti-nationalism and so on.
3)The only thing that is held sacred, that cannot be denied or mocked in the contemporary West, is the Holocaust.
The problem is that all three functions are backwards or negative.
Instead of the origin event being one of fertility and new life, it was a conflagration of death and destruction.
Instead of ultimate good taking the central position in the story that slot is occupied by ultimate evil. Everyone knows that Adolf Hitler, the personification of evil, holds the centre point of the WWII story.
Instead of that which is held sacred being something mysterious and sublime it (the Holocaust) is an obscenity.
Having a negative foundation myth means the tree of life for Westerners is poisoned.
Horza
11-24-2019, 02:40 PM
Didn't you just refrain from calling Teppler what you thought he philosophically was due to getting banned?
I'm pretty confident that I've made it perfectly clear what I think Teppler is philosophically.
feniin
11-24-2019, 02:50 PM
To understand Horza and feniin consider this-
How do you recognise a foundation myth? It fulfils three functions.
1)It explains the origin and structure of the world (and society).
2)It defines ultimate good and evil (and from those definitions are derived the values that are used to justify the holding of power).
3)It determines what is held sacred in that society.
For modern Westerners the story of WWII has become their foundation myth. It fulfils all three functions.
1)We live in the ‘Post-War World’. The lines on the map, the institutions, the sense of what era we live in, all arise from the starting point of WWII.
2)Ultimate evil is Nazis. Ultimate good is opposing Nazis. The values derived from these definitions are anti-racism, equality, diversity, anti-nationalism and so on.
3)The only thing that is held sacred, that cannot be denied or mocked in the contemporary West, is the Holocaust.
The problem is that all three functions are backwards or negative.
Instead of the origin event being one of fertility and new life, it was a conflagration of death and destruction.
Instead of ultimate good taking the central position in the story that slot is occupied by ultimate evil. Everyone knows that Adolf Hitler, the personification of evil, holds the centre point of the WWII story.
Instead of that which is held sacred being something mysterious and sublime it (the Holocaust) is an obscenity.
Having a negative foundation myth means the tree of life for Westerners is poisoned.
You act like the Holocaust happened thousands of years ago. It was within my grandparents' lifetime.
Horza
11-24-2019, 02:58 PM
https://i.imgur.com/heLaQ0G.jpg
Teppler
11-24-2019, 03:02 PM
I can't help myself from pointing out antisemitic conspiracy theories, but at least I don't hide behind the forum moderators if someone asks me to justify my political views.
Lol. Horza you’ve never had a well explained political opinion in your life. You attack and bait and pilpul. Any attempt to engage you in deeper discussion is met with that. It’s just funny when you get too overboard, triggered and then do stuff to get yourself banned on top of it all.
Horza
11-24-2019, 03:10 PM
Even while denying that he is a racist Teppler just can't help but use antisemitic dog whistles like pilpul. Sorry that I quoted your own words, no doubt that justifies the insults and the threats of tattling to the moderators about how I hurt your feelings.
Teppler
11-24-2019, 03:16 PM
Maybe try debating and having an argument instead of petty insults and you won't get banned.
feniin
11-24-2019, 03:19 PM
Maybe try debating and having an argument instead of petty insults and you won't get banned.
The first step is gaining enough knowledge to have an actual argument. Second step is gaining some emotional maturity.
It's impossible to have a reasoned debate with someone who is living in a separate reality. You don't understand facts. You ignore reason. You're a hateful conspiracy theorist holocaust denier. No sane person gives a shit what you think and your racist dogwhistles are honestly an embarrassment to this forum and the legacy of this game.
Hope that helps.
Horza
11-24-2019, 03:22 PM
Teppler's idea of deeper discussion is just copy and pasting conspiracy theories from 8chan about how the Holocaust was actually a secret Jewish plot to pull one over on the goyim, and then threatening to get anyone who makes fun of him banned from the forum.
Teppler
11-24-2019, 03:24 PM
It's impossible to have a reasoned debate with someone who is living in a separate reality. You don't understand facts. You ignore reason. You're a hateful conspiracy theorist holocaust denier. No sane person gives a shit what you think and your racist dogwhistles are honestly an embarrassment to this forum and the legacy of this game.
Hope that helps.
Well it's impossible for you to have a reasoned debate with someone like me because you aren't interested in reason.
I've never seen you debate anyone.
You have 2 modes that many people have commented and agreed on-
1- Attacking people like a wild animal
2- Jerking off Horza
Neither of those is debating. I don't think you have the skill.
Wonkie
11-24-2019, 03:25 PM
It's possible to be good at arguing but bad at thinking
Horza
11-24-2019, 03:26 PM
Why won't you debate me, feniin. you scared of logic and ratonality??
Teppler
11-24-2019, 03:28 PM
Would definitely be hilarious to watch. Each of you two have the depth of the puddle.
Horza
11-24-2019, 03:30 PM
https://i.imgur.com/bMc8ivC.png
Wonkie
11-24-2019, 03:31 PM
https://i.imgur.com/bMc8ivC.png
I lold
Horza
11-24-2019, 03:45 PM
Devin Nunes doubles down on promise to take CNN and Daily Beast to court: 'It should be fun.' (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/devin-nunes-cnn-daily-beast-republicans)
feniin
11-24-2019, 03:51 PM
You liberals are funny with your double standards. You say that the president can't be allowed to be blackmailed yet you all literally voted for a black male. Twice! You can't defend that, can you?
Horza
11-24-2019, 04:27 PM
https://i.imgur.com/vmy25Nl.jpg
Just a friendly reminder that Teppler's holocaust denial rant started with him posting this unfunny, racist cartoon.
feniin
11-24-2019, 04:30 PM
Just a friendly reminder that Teppler's holocaust denial rant started with him posting this unfunny, racist cartoon.
Here comes BallzDeep to say that Teppler's not a racist. And Teppler to deny the holocaust some more while claiming he's not racist.
Horza
11-24-2019, 04:39 PM
Here comes BallzDeep to say that Teppler's not a racist. And Teppler to deny the holocaust some more while claiming he's not racist.
I assure you that world wide globalist zionist bankers is not a dog whistle used to justify gassing innocent children.
Teppler
11-24-2019, 06:58 PM
You two support world wide zionist banking that has led to countless middle eastern wars. Countless amount of dead brown children, their schools, hospitals, homes.
I fight for those brown children not having bombs dropped on them and their homes. You fight to have them slaughtered. And somehow I’m the racist?
Teppler
11-24-2019, 07:07 PM
I’d also like someone to point out how that cartoon is racist.
You’re losing people to independents. People don’t care when you guys cry wolf about racism anymore. Calling someone a racist doesn’t mean anything when you call everyone a racist. If I dissect anyone’s view points, I can point out they are racist for one belief or another. It’s a Soros buzz word the way you guys use it.
feniin
11-24-2019, 07:16 PM
Anyone who uses the terms "globalist" and "Zionist" is 100% a racist. Hope that helps you narrow it down.
Horza
11-24-2019, 07:22 PM
Anyone who uses the terms "globalist" and "Zionist" is 100% a racist. Hope that helps you narrow it down.
Don't forget Soros, though to be perfectly fair actual Zionists can fuck right off.
Teppler
11-24-2019, 07:22 PM
Anyone who uses the terms "globalist" and "Zionist" is 100% a racist. Hope that helps you narrow it down.
I’m sorry but that’s not an explanation. Again you fail to have a convincing point or argument as I’ve pointed out before. Feel free to try again.
Horza
11-24-2019, 07:30 PM
You're not doing a very good job of convincing us that this Adolf fellow was such a bad guy, feniin.
Teppler
11-24-2019, 07:33 PM
Now if you want to get into the times feniin has laughed and joked about declining numbers of caucasians then there's some nasty racism.
Teppler
11-24-2019, 07:40 PM
Thankfully the mods have deleted a lot of it. I don't want to see that stuff again.
feniin
11-24-2019, 07:47 PM
Thankfully the mods have deleted a lot of it. I don't want to see that stuff again.
You don't cease to be white or a Caucasian if you procreate with a non-white/Caucasian. Your progeny doesn't cease to be white/Caucasian either.
Horza
11-24-2019, 07:55 PM
The one-drop rule is a social and legal principle of racial classification that was historically prominent in the United States in the 20th century. It asserted that any person with even one ancestor of sub-Saharan African ancestry ("one drop" of black blood) is considered black (Negro or colored in historical terms). This concept became codified into the law of some states in the early 20th century. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-drop_rule)
Wonkie
11-24-2019, 08:01 PM
Teppler is good at playing the victim .
Mods credulous.
Horza
11-24-2019, 08:14 PM
A confidential review of President Trump’s decision to place a hold on military aid to Ukraine has turned up hundreds of documents that reveal extensive efforts to generate an after-the-fact justification for the decision and a debate over whether the delay was legal. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/white-house-review-turns-up-emails-showing-extensive-effort-to-justify-trumps-decision-to-block-ukraine-military-aid/2019/11/24/2121cf98-0d57-11ea-bd9d-c628fd48b3a0_story.html)
feniin
11-24-2019, 08:48 PM
"The rule of law is what sets us apart from our adversaries. Good order and discipline is what has enabled our victory against foreign tyranny time and again, from Captain Lawrence's famous order "Don't Give up the Ship", to the discipline and determination that propelled our flag to the highest point on Iwo Jima. The Constitution, and the Uniform Code of Military Justice, are the shields that set us apart, and the beacons that protect us all. Through my Title Ten Authority, I have strived to ensure that our proceeding are fair, transparent and consistent, from the newest recruit to the Flag and General Officer live.
Unfortunately it has become apparent that in the respect, I no longer share the same understanding with the Commander in Chief who appointed me, in regards to the key principle of good order and discipline. I cannot in good conscience obey an order that I believe violates the sacred oath I took in the presence of my family, my flag and my faith to support and defend the Constitution of the United States."
The words of a real patriot. Shame he's being forced out of his post by traitors.
Valeriya
11-24-2019, 09:13 PM
I just had dinner with your mom Horza
Valeriya
11-24-2019, 09:17 PM
Thats her holding the sign
Wonkie
11-24-2019, 09:19 PM
https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=11979&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1574644653
Yikes. Not a 3 in the bunch.
Horza
11-24-2019, 09:21 PM
https://i.imgur.com/gsfwnjd.jpg
Valeriya
11-24-2019, 09:24 PM
https://i.imgur.com/gsfwnjd.jpg
That hurt didn't it lol?
Valeriya
11-24-2019, 09:29 PM
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Horza
11-24-2019, 09:33 PM
The House Intelligence Committee is in possession of audio and video recordings and photographs from Giuliani associate Lev Parnas. The recordings and photos reportedly include Giuliani and Trump. (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/house-intelligence-committee-possession-video-audio-recordings-giuliani/story?id=67276448)
Valeriya
11-24-2019, 09:37 PM
Abc news Lol
Horza
11-24-2019, 09:43 PM
Better get that insurance you keep talking about ready, Rudy.
Valeriya
11-24-2019, 09:46 PM
Better get that insurance you keep talking about ready, Rudy.
Your like the Hillary Clinton of p99
Valeriya
11-24-2019, 09:49 PM
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https://i.imgur.com/QrpF4a1.jpg
Valeriya
11-24-2019, 09:55 PM
You like manly women
Black, democrat, women...3 targets in one for ya right Valeriya?
Valeriya
11-24-2019, 10:00 PM
Black, democrat, women...3 targets in one for ya right Valeriya?
I have no idea what your talking about but Michelle Obama definitely looks like a man and I have no problem with people that are gay or trans. so if you think she looks classy thats gross
I have no problem with people that are gay or trans.
I know, ya a man (i think?!) and using a female name
Valeriya
11-24-2019, 10:03 PM
Most people that play girl toons on p99 are guys so your comment is invalid... in fact you have no idea who i am
Valeriya
11-24-2019, 10:05 PM
You libturds are pretty special
Wonkie
11-24-2019, 10:17 PM
how come daughters if michelle a man
WHY IS DAUGHTERs
Valeriya
11-24-2019, 10:21 PM
how come daughters if michelle a man
WHY IS DAUGHTERs
wedlock baby lol? I have no idea but she does like manly
Valeriya
11-25-2019, 12:53 PM
Looks like the libturds are backing down.....
Horza
11-25-2019, 01:26 PM
Giuliani offered legal aid to indicted Ukrainian oligarch for Biden dirt. One of his associates has described offering Firtash help with his Justice Department problems—if he hired two lawyers who were close to Trump and were already working with Mr. Giuliani on his dirt-digging mission. (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/25/us/giuliani-ukraine-oligarchs.html)
Khorza
11-26-2019, 10:50 AM
Looks like the libturds are backing down.....
Liberals just generally don't debase themselves by having asinine conversations like the degree to which a former first lady looks like a man.
I’m sorry but that’s not an explanation. Again you fail to have a convincing point or argument as I’ve pointed out before. Feel free to try again.
No one else needs to be convinced that using racist speech and posting racist propaganda makes you a racist. These are just known things to the rest of the civilized world. The act of pretending like you can't understand why people call you a racist after you say racist things is not itself some sort of shield against being a racist.
Teppler
11-26-2019, 01:06 PM
It’s not that I can’t understand. I like pointing out that you don’t have an actual argument. What you describe is just having an echo chamber to reinforce your opinion that you seem unable to base in any fact.
It’s kind of fun needling the subject because one can make fun of and criticize the Obamas all day without getting racial. I know it’s going to drive you nuts because you obsess about race.
Horza
11-26-2019, 01:38 PM
It’s kind of fun needling the subject because one can make fun of and criticize the Obamas all day without getting racial.
https://i.imgur.com/vmy25Nl.jpg
Strange you would focus on that instead of the giant dong Michelle has.
:confused:
Horza
11-26-2019, 02:18 PM
Trump claims he'd 'love' to have his top aides testify in impeachment probe despite a White House directive for officials to not cooperate. “The D.C. Wolves and Fake News Media are reading far too much into people being forced by Courts to testify before Congress,” Trump wrote on Twitter. “I am fighting for future Presidents and the Office of the President. Other than that, I would actually like people to testify,” he continued. (https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/26/trump-administration-officials-testify-impeachment-073956)
Khorza
11-26-2019, 02:21 PM
It’s not that I can’t understand. I like pointing out that you don’t have an actual argument. What you describe is just having an echo chamber to reinforce your opinion that you seem unable to base in any fact.
The irony of someone telling someone else that they have nothing to say, while saying nothing themselves.
I wasn't really making an argument. You posted a racist comic. It's obviously racist to everyone else, except for the people who will pretend that it's not racist because they get offended when other people call them a racist. If you're going to embrace racism so proudly by posting racist material, why get so indignant when people call you a racist? I don't get it, why not stand up for what you believe in instead of folding?
It’s kind of fun needling the subject because one can make fun of and criticize the Obamas all day without getting racial. I know it’s going to drive you nuts because you obsess about race.
I'm not a big fan of Obama, but there are so many policy points you could criticize him on, why make it all about race? You're devaluing your own argument.
And where are you coming up with this assertion that I'm "obsessed about race?" What does that even mean? This might shock you, but a lot of people just don't like racists.
Wonkie
11-26-2019, 02:28 PM
:confused:
Her bulge isn't even that big if you think about it. I know I have.
Horza
11-26-2019, 02:35 PM
Her bulge isn't even that big if you think about it. I know I have.
I don't see what's racist about white supremacists claiming that black women are too ugly, muscular, and aggressive to be feminine.
Hazek
11-26-2019, 02:35 PM
How many puppets will you worship before you real eyes that they never do what they say? And why do you continue to worship them even after they prove it? He says, "America first" while funding foreign terrorists with $3.8 billion of our tax money every year. And you still ride his dick. If you still support Trump then you're a lunatic; not that Bernie the Communist or Hillary Cunton aren't any better. Zionists run America and the sooner you accept that the better. The president is just one of their tools. If you need a leader then look to yourself or people around you, not a hypocrite that's thousands of miles away. "America" will never be "saved" by putting faith in the next presidential replacement, but only by working with smaller communities that havn't been compromised by parasites.
BallzDeep
11-26-2019, 02:41 PM
I don't see what's racist about white supremacists claiming that black women are too ugly, muscular, and aggressive to be feminine.
So let me guess, you like all races, ethnicities and women of all qualities. Otherwise, you are a racist bigot.
Horza
11-26-2019, 02:45 PM
So let me guess, you like all races, ethnicities and women of all qualities. Otherwise, you are a racist bigot.
I'm a bit of a curmudgeon, so I usually don't like most people but that's not because of their race or ethnicity.
Khorza
11-26-2019, 02:57 PM
So let me guess, you like all races, ethnicities and women of all qualities. Otherwise, you are a racist bigot.
Yes, most people don't judge others based on race, ethnicity, or gender. And yes, people who do judge other people based on those things are racists or bigots. I'm glad to see that you're making some progress here.
BallzDeep
11-26-2019, 02:59 PM
I'm a bit of a curmudgeon, so I usually don't like most people but that's not because of their race or ethnicity.
So you feel as though you don't need to be physically attracted to someone whatsoever and you have no line based on physical appearance that you do not like. Big Ears, deformities, skin color or a certain type of woman does not fall on any scale for you?
BallzDeep
11-26-2019, 03:00 PM
Yes, most people don't judge others based on race, ethnicity, or gender. And yes, people who do judge other people based on those things are racists or bigots. I'm glad to see that you're making some progress here.
You are obviously too stupid to understand the irony in what you are saying.
Is a black man racist if he only likes black women?
feniin
11-26-2019, 03:01 PM
Attractiveness isn't tied to skin color/race/culture. Physical traits and deformities an individual possesses is. Hope that helps.
Khorza
11-26-2019, 03:03 PM
Whoa this took a hard turn.
Why do you think this has anything to do with physical attraction? Do you think it's okay to discriminate against other races simply because you're not sexually attracted to them? Holy shit.
Like, it's totally normal for a guy to prefer taller women. That doesn't mean that he has to go around spitting on every short woman he sees.
I really hope some of you are just elaborate trolls on the internet and not actual people out in the real word, but unfortunately I know the reality.
Horza
11-26-2019, 03:03 PM
You are obviously too stupid to understand the irony in what you are saying.
Is a black man racist if he only likes black women?
I don't really give a shit what people like, I care about their words and actions.
Kaveh
11-26-2019, 03:05 PM
Whoa this took a hard turn.
Why do you think this has anything to do with physical attraction? Do you think it's okay to discriminate against other races simply because you're not sexually attracted to them? Holy shit.
Like, it's totally normal for a guy to prefer taller women. That doesn't mean that he has to go around spitting on every short woman he sees.
I really hope some of you are just elaborate trolls on the internet and not actual people out in the real word, but unfortunately I know the reality.
Yes, ugly people can and should face discrimination
If you prefer taller women, you’re actually a latent homosexual hoping to be pegged. Hope this helps
Teppler
11-26-2019, 03:09 PM
The irony of someone telling someone else that they have nothing to say, while saying nothing themselves.
I wasn't really making an argument. You posted a racist comic. It's obviously racist to everyone else, except for the people who will pretend that it's not racist because they get offended when other people call them a racist. If you're going to embrace racism so proudly by posting racist material, why get so indignant when people call you a racist? I don't get it, why not stand up for what you believe in instead of folding?
I'm not a big fan of Obama, but there are so many policy points you could criticize him on, why make it all about race? You're devaluing your own argument.
And where are you coming up with this assertion that I'm "obsessed about race?" What does that even mean? This might shock you, but a lot of people just don't like racists.
You sound ridiculous to say the comic is racist and when asked how its racist your only explanation is “everyone knows it’s racist”.
I can and do criticize Obama on lots of policy. I also like to clown on his man of a wife that also looks like she has a giant dong. Sorry that still isn’t racial no matter how sensitive you are. These people literally hate and have hated America except when they had control over it. Michelle is quoted on that. Ugly nasty people no matter what color they are.
Kaveh
11-26-2019, 03:12 PM
You sound ridiculous to say the comic is racist and when asked how its racist your only explanation is “everyone knows it’s racist”.
I can and do criticize Obama on lots of policy. I also like to clown on his man of a wife that also looks like she has a giant dong. Sorry that still isn’t racial no matter how sensitive you are. These people literally hate and have hated America except when they had control over it. Michelle is quoted on that. Ugly nasty people no matter what color they are.
Saying a black woman looks like a man is going to be considered racist dumb dumb, it’s a trope dating back hundreds of years
Teppler
11-26-2019, 03:13 PM
Here’s an interesting thought. If someone accuses one of racism for saying Michelle Obama looks like a man..... what is that accuser really saying about black women? Hah.
feniin
11-26-2019, 03:14 PM
You sound ridiculous to say the comic is racist and when asked how its racist your only explanation is “everyone knows it’s racist”.
I can and do criticize Obama on lots of policy. I also like to clown on his man of a wife that also looks like she has a giant dong. Sorry that still isn’t racial no matter how sensitive you are. These people literally hate and have hated America except when they had control over it. Michelle is quoted on that. Ugly nasty people no matter what color they are.
You do know how insane you sound, right? Obama is infinitely more patriotic, generous, thoughtful, and intelligent than your God emperor cult leader. I'm not sure your brain functions properly if you believe otherwise.
Michelle has a level of class that Melania wouldn't be able to comprehend. Mostly because Melania is a mail order bride without a moral compass.
Kaveh
11-26-2019, 03:15 PM
Teppler why are you thinking about black dongs weirdo
Horza
11-26-2019, 03:16 PM
Here’s an interesting thought. If someone accuses one of racism for saying Michelle Obama looks like a man..... what is that accuser really saying about black women? Hah.
That they live in a white dominant culture in which non-Caucasian characteristics are considered by many unfeminine and grotesque.
Teppler
11-26-2019, 03:20 PM
Teppler why are you thinking about black dongs weirdo
:confused: I’m not the one talking about being attracted to Michelle Obama.
BallzDeep
11-26-2019, 03:26 PM
Whoa this took a hard turn.
Why do you think this has anything to do with physical attraction? Do you think it's okay to discriminate against other races simply because you're not sexually attracted to them? Holy shit.
Like, it's totally normal for a guy to prefer taller women. That doesn't mean that he has to go around spitting on every short woman he sees.
You are the only one making the case here that someone is automatically discriminating against someone.
The comment was "I don't see what's racist about white supremacists claiming that black women are too ugly, muscular, and aggressive to be feminine."
Obviously, it was sarcasm. He is saying if you don't like a certain look based on physical features, you are racist. Certain races are born with differences physically. Hence the joke about black men being well endowed. If someone says I don't like hairy women and all African women are born with genetics that make them very hairy, it won't work out. He isn't racist, he just doesn't like hair.
Its absurd you find yourself the whistleblowers on something so subjective as what is racist.
BallzDeep
11-26-2019, 03:28 PM
You do know how insane you sound, right? Obama is infinitely more patriotic, generous, thoughtful, and intelligent than your God emperor cult leader. I'm not sure your brain functions properly if you believe otherwise.
Michelle has a level of class that Melania wouldn't be able to comprehend. Mostly because Melania is a mail order bride without a moral compass.
You know the article that was just released that has Obama stating he would smear campaign and help offset Sanders or Warren if they were to get a nomination. Sounds like someone else you hate so vehemently and very patriotic.
feniin
11-26-2019, 03:29 PM
You know the article that was just released that has Obama stating he would smear campaign and help offset Sanders or Warren if they were to get a nomination. Sounds like someone else you hate so vehemently and very patriotic.
Link it, baby girl
Wonkie
11-26-2019, 03:30 PM
Yes, ugly people can and should face discrimination
If you prefer taller women, you’re actually a latent homosexual hoping to be pegged. Hope this helps
What if she's ride or die for you and you want offensive lineman sons?
BallzDeep
11-26-2019, 03:35 PM
Link it, baby girl
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/472090-obama-privately-said-he-would-speak-up-to-stop-sanders-report
"“Publicly, [Obama] has been clear that he won’t intervene in the primary for or against a candidate,” Politico reported Tuesday. “There is one potential exception: Back when Sanders seemed like more of a threat than he does now, Obama said privately that if Bernie were running away with the nomination, Obama would speak up to stop him.
Progressives viewed Obama’s comments as further evidence that the former president, who was elected in 2008 on the soaring promise of “hope and change,” is now using his influence on the Democratic Party to undercut the grassroots push for transformational policies like Medicare for All and the Green New Deal."
Horza
11-26-2019, 03:38 PM
Breaking News: Obama still cares more about the concerns of white moderates than he does about his own political party.
feniin
11-26-2019, 03:43 PM
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/472090-obama-privately-said-he-would-speak-up-to-stop-sanders-report
"“Publicly, [Obama] has been clear that he won’t intervene in the primary for or against a candidate,” Politico reported Tuesday. “There is one potential exception: Back when Sanders seemed like more of a threat than he does now, Obama said privately that if Bernie were running away with the nomination, Obama would speak up to stop him.
Progressives viewed Obama’s comments as further evidence that the former president, who was elected in 2008 on the soaring promise of “hope and change,” is now using his influence on the Democratic Party to undercut the grassroots push for transformational policies like Medicare for All and the Green New Deal."
Is that an opinion piece? There's less substance than what lay between Trump's ears. I don't see anything resembling a quote in that.
Teppler
11-26-2019, 03:46 PM
Obama will do whatever his big banker buddies tell him to do. He reallocated billions from the average tax payers to the banks. He ran on an anti war and oblique government. Kept wars up and gitmo. Was horrible for the jobs economy. Told people jobs and growth #s weren't coming back only for them to surge under Trump. Illegally spied on Trump's campaign. Under him, race relations deteriorated to the lowest point in my life time. He didn't help by fanning the flames of identity politics constantly. He was just a generally adversarial person.
Obama is getting the rewards of helping the elites now with his big netflix deal.
Khorza
11-26-2019, 03:49 PM
You sound ridiculous to say the comic is racist and when asked how its racist your only explanation is “everyone knows it’s racist”.
I don't know why you're making this up, you never asked me why the comic is racist.
Why didn't I explain why the comic was racist? Probably for the same reason that I don't go around explaining why the sky is blue. Some things I just expect adults to know.
There exists a racist stereotype that black women are angry apelike savages. This comic depicts those same racist stereotypes, with also a flair of transphobia thrown in. So, pretty obvious that Ben was playing a racist angle here.
Furthermore, Ben Garrison is known for producing racist comics, so we can also just make an assumption here based on the source. It is nice to see him take a break from the antisemitism for once though.
I can and do criticize Obama on lots of policy. I also like to clown on his man of a wife that also looks like she has a giant dong.
She doesn't though. Maybe you shouldn't believe every photoshopped image you see on 4chan and 9gag.
These people literally hate and have hated America except when they had control over it.
Even if that was true and the Obamas hated America, why focus on them instead of the current president? What about Trump's draft dodging? What about Trump's frequent disparaging remarks towards members of the military? What about Trump putting American democracy and national security at risk by requesting foreign nations to disrupt our elections? What about his schemes that siphon money from tax payers to line his and his friends' pockets? What about the time he said that China was great and the American was dying?
Like it seems really strange to me to accuse the Obamas of hating America while we currently have this administration.
Teppler
11-26-2019, 03:49 PM
That they live in a white dominant culture in which non-Caucasian characteristics are considered by many unfeminine and grotesque.
See you guys can’t help but let your ugly racism come out even when you are using you PC dialect and talking points. You can’t hide that ugliness deep down.
You guys are like mini Hillary Clinton’s with your “im like your abuello”.
Me? I think any race of women can look like a man. I’ve given no hint of racially stereotyping black women=mannish
A couple of you guys on the other hand see a black woman being called mannish and immediately go to the racist card which reveals an ugly belief you have about black women deep down. The fact that you are sensitive about shows you believe it which is hilarious. I don’t believe it.
The basic facts are Michelle has the figure and build of a linebacker-
https://i.imgur.com/N5oiGkK.png
https://i.imgur.com/LtzaOjJ.png
Sorry, still not racial. Unless, YOU, connect black women to looking like men.
Meanwhile, Melania has the figure of a woman as evidenced below-
https://i.imgur.com/lhVi43h.jpg
feniin
11-26-2019, 03:54 PM
Obama will do whatever his big banker buddies tell him to do. He reallocated billions from the average tax payers to the banks. He ran on an anti war and oblique government. Kept wars up and gitmo. Was horrible for the jobs economy. Told people jobs and growth #s weren't coming back only for them to surge under Trump. Illegally spied on Trump's campaign. Under him, race relations deteriorated to the lowest point in my life time. He didn't help by fanning the flames of identity politics constantly. He was just a generally adversarial person.
Obama is getting the rewards of helping the elites now with his big netflix deal.
Got any more provably false right wing talking points to add? Does he eat babies too?
Horza
11-26-2019, 03:54 PM
Illegally spied on Trump's campaign.
https://i.imgur.com/SxbrITd.jpg
Teppler
11-26-2019, 03:56 PM
Got any more provably false right wing talking points to add? Does he eat babies too?
You know how you talk about people worshipping Trump as the messiah....... ?
Horza
11-26-2019, 04:00 PM
People on the right have claimed that Trump was sent by god on many occasions.
Teppler
11-26-2019, 04:00 PM
I mean it’s just further evidence that you guys fight for the big banking elites. Like zealots, you guys defend the guy that decided it was a great idea to take trillions of dollars from the tax payers and it give it to the poor hurting banker elites.
Now him and his wife get a hundred million dollar deal as reward on zionist network central, Netflix. Small price to pay for siphoning trillions from the common people. Obama’s will forever be in the elites graces now.
feniin
11-26-2019, 04:00 PM
You know how you talk about people worshipping Trump as the messiah....... ?
I didn't vote for Obama. Didn't even really like him. But it's ridiculous to say he hated America. Or that his wife looks like a man (except you've said she's actually a man numerous times). You need new talking points. The old /pol/ and Stormfront ones are played out.
Teppler
11-26-2019, 04:07 PM
I didn't vote for Obama. Didn't even really like him. But it's ridiculous to say he hated America. Or that his wife looks like a man (except you've said she's actually a man numerous times). You need new talking points. The old /pol/ and Stormfront ones are played out.
It’s a quote from Michelle when he won the primary you doofus.
“For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country”
Another way of saying she’s never been proud of America. She’s never liked America. I’m pretty sure she’s not thrilled about it under trump if she didn’t like it before obama. I’m wondering, did she like it better in the days of slavery?
BallzDeep
11-26-2019, 04:13 PM
I don't know why you're making this up, you never asked me why the comic is racist.
Why didn't I explain why the comic was racist? Probably for the same reason that I don't go around explaining why the sky is blue. Some things I just expect adults to know.
There exists a racist stereotype that black women are angry apelike savages. This comic depicts those same racist stereotypes, with also a flair of transphobia thrown in. So, pretty obvious that Ben was playing a racist angle here.
Furthermore, Ben Garrison is known for producing racist comics, so we can also just make an assumption here based on the source. It is nice to see him take a break from the antisemitism for once though.
She doesn't though. Maybe you shouldn't believe every photoshopped image you see on 4chan and 9gag.
Even if that was true and the Obamas hated America, why focus on them instead of the current president? What about Trump's draft dodging? What about Trump's frequent disparaging remarks towards members of the military? What about Trump putting American democracy and national security at risk by requesting foreign nations to disrupt our elections? What about his schemes that siphon money from tax payers to line his and his friends' pockets? What about the time he said that China was great and the American was dying?
Like it seems really strange to me to accuse the Obamas of hating America while we currently have this administration.
But wait, a little bit ago someone was arguing for the case of Cohen that since he did racist acts for art in the past. Once it's art, it can't be considered racist I thought.
feniin
11-26-2019, 04:16 PM
I just can't even with you.
Being proud or not proud of this country doesn't mean you don't love it and want it to be better. The systemic racism, crony capitalism, and about a trillion other things are no reason to be proud of this country. That she saw the man she loved and supported, against all odds, with a name like Barack Hussein Obama and back skin, become president in a backwards fucking country like this, would give anyone pride.
BallzDeep
11-26-2019, 04:22 PM
Seems to be a common theme here. An assload of assumptions and speaking for people in the name of political correctness for the people they are speaking for. Great motto to have if you ask me.
BallzDeep
11-26-2019, 04:30 PM
I just can't even with you.
Being proud or not proud of this country doesn't mean you don't love it and want it to be better. The systemic racism, crony capitalism, and about a trillion other things are no reason to be proud of this country. That she saw the man she loved and supported, against all odds, with a name like Barack Hussein Obama and back skin, become president in a backwards fucking country like this, would give anyone pride.
Lol that's where I think people differ from you. Your assumption is that there is systemic racism, crony capitalism and a trillion other things you can't name wrong with the country but you love it. I am saying that you have the capability just as anyone else to be wealthy and make a difference by supporting whatever cause you want. It starts with the individual and passing that forward. No law will change that and there are no laws preventing anyone from that currently. You are still crying about the government being racist. There is nothing in the government (besides people) that holds anyone back. People are the problem. The change starts with someone making a difference in their direct community, not on a government level. Things are contagious but you will always have bad people. You need to understand we will always have bad people. We need to reward those who work hard and not help the ones that don't. This is essential to a society.
If you don't know, you can look this up. The world and hunger is getting better by the day. Statistically, the world is becoming less in poverty and less people are dying per year. Everything is slowly progressive. Black people are at the lowest jobless rate in the US ever. We are still getting massive influxes of immigrants to the border at record numbers. Overall, people are getting healthier and living longer, and the US is a big decider in that with modern medicine, technology, innovation from our private sectors.
Horza
11-26-2019, 04:34 PM
House judiciary committee invites Trump to next week's impeachment hearing. (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment/u-s-house-judiciary-panel-invites-trump-to-december-4-impeachment-hearing-idUSKBN1Y02C5)
BallzDeep
11-26-2019, 04:47 PM
And if you're curious why I directly support Trump it's because I believe he has worked hard. You don't get to where you are at and run a TV show, make millions of real estate or anything else unless you've worked hard. You can argue he was given money but he's made money as well.
There are plenty of people here that I could give $20 million to and you would not be profitable.
Does he use almost crossing the line tactics? Sure. Do I think he actually loves America? Yes, he's been all about it even back in the 90's. Do I think he was raised with some subtle racism? Sure. Do I think every race is raised with some subtle racism? Yes. Do I think anyone virtue signaling racism doesn't really understand that racism and cultural divide get crossed pretty often as evidenced here? Yes.
Pretty much every culture hates another culture. Pretty much every race has some other race they aren't necessarily attracted to. You are influenced from your culture at a young age to define beauty when it comes to physical. These aren't racist ideas. As we've pointed racism means you think you are inferior. You can look up the literal definition. As I've stated there are too many terms being loosely used as a pejorative and the sad part is the accusers don't even know the meaning.
Kaveh
11-26-2019, 04:47 PM
I just can't even with you.
Being proud or not proud of this country doesn't mean you don't love it and want it to be better. The systemic racism, crony capitalism, and about a trillion other things are no reason to be proud of this country. That she saw the man she loved and supported, against all odds, with a name like Barack Hussein Obama and back skin, become president in a backwards fucking country like this, would give anyone pride.
America is one of the least backwards countries on earth bud
Africans are killing people at clinics and vaccination centers to hurt those of other ethnicities, and they spread Ebola, which can only be spread by consuming body fluids of those infected (IE, prevented by hand washing and PPE). It amazes me that people think the way that you do
Teppler is a moron. Literally 99% of middle eastern people are as dumb and tribal as he is. It’s probably 99.9% actually. Anyway, keep talking shit about white Americans as teppler keeps blaming the Jews. You’re both idiots
Horza
11-26-2019, 04:50 PM
You don't get to where you are at and run a TV show, make millions of real estate or anything else unless you've worked hard. You can argue he was given money but he's made money as well. There are plenty of people here that I could give $20 million to and you would not be profitable.
The Times concluded that Donald Trump "was a millionaire by age 8", and that he had received at least $413 million (adjusted for inflation) from his father's business empire over his lifetime.
Kaveh
11-26-2019, 04:55 PM
People on the right have claimed that Trump was sent by god on many occasions.
Probably Satan to be honest. He’s been highly effective at perhaps permanently fucking over American democratic norms
Wwen42
11-26-2019, 05:10 PM
Everything about this impeachment and the "evidence" presented is abnormal. Making Trump the focus of all politick is just a distraction by corporate media. They direct your attention where they want it to be.
BallzDeep
11-26-2019, 05:12 PM
Trump reported a yearly income of $362 million for 2014 and $611 million from January 2015 to May 2016. Trump and his family reported more than $500 million of income in mid-2018 financial disclosure forms.
Horza
11-26-2019, 05:14 PM
Everything about this impeachment and the "evidence" presented is abnormal. Making Trump the focus of all politick is just a distraction by corporate media. They direct your attention where they want it to be.
What is with Trump supporters and this amorphous "they" that apparently controls every media outlet on the planet except Fox News?
Wwen42
11-26-2019, 05:21 PM
Fox news is also corporate media and I'm not a Trump supporter, NPC. I only have to defend Trump at all because I hate liars and bullies. Trump is beatable without the deception and coercion. Progressives only have one principle, will to power and they will do or say anything to grasp it. The lot of progressive thought is authoritarian and totalitarian and backwards. "Conservatives" appear liberal compared to some progressives. Regular people come by it honestly, but the politicians and power brokers are at the core corrupt.
Horza
11-26-2019, 05:26 PM
Claims to not be a Trump supporter, but uses 8chan lingo such as referring to those who disagree with conservative talking points as NPCs. :confused:
Teppler
11-26-2019, 05:28 PM
What is with Trump supporters and this amorphous "they" that apparently controls every media outlet on the planet except Fox News?
Your side of global elites keeps pumping money into their media propaganda and people aren’t buying it.
We’re not stupid. We know things like Anderson Cooper comes from the Vanderbilt family, one of the wealthiest families to ever live and was also CIA. We know guys like Bill Maher, Stephen Colbert and John Oliver get the same propaganda talking points. People are tired of it. You guys are driving the regular people, anyone that asks questions, right into the other camp. And once people see behind the curtain of the media, there’s no turning back, ever.
BallzDeep
11-26-2019, 05:28 PM
I was able to say careful, Horza will call you a racist or bigot but looks like he already beat me to the punch.
Horza
11-26-2019, 05:31 PM
People are tired of it. You guys are driving the regular people, anyone that asks questions, right into the other camp. And once people see behind the curtain of the media, there’s no turning back, ever.
We're just regular people who think that Hitler did nothing wrong and any burning that happened had to do with disinfecting from typhus.
Teppler
11-26-2019, 05:33 PM
I was able to say careful, Horza will call you a racist or bigot but looks like he already beat me to the punch.
Nice call lmao.
solleks
11-26-2019, 05:47 PM
People write/say stuff, u believe it since they are your handlers
Horza
11-26-2019, 06:02 PM
Sorosbucks rule everything around me, get the money. Dollar, dollar bill y'all.
Teddie1056
11-26-2019, 06:05 PM
If you call someone an NPC, you probably are a mouthbreathing piece of shit
Teddie1056
11-26-2019, 06:07 PM
I only have to defend Trump at all because I hate liars and bullies.
The Irony is fucking palpable
solleks
11-26-2019, 06:07 PM
If/then. You are an npc^
Teddie1056
11-26-2019, 06:09 PM
If you think Donald Trump hasn't broken the law, you are a fucking retard.
Horza
11-26-2019, 06:14 PM
He has to defend Trump, it is his duty as a member of the most honorable order of shitposters.
solleks
11-26-2019, 06:15 PM
I'm the smartest retard
Teddie1056
11-26-2019, 06:19 PM
I'm proud of you
Horza
11-26-2019, 06:20 PM
Volker and Sondland have said they weren't aware Trump's interest in investigating Burisma involved the Bidens, but as early as May 26th Bill Taylor was referring to the "Giuliani Biden issue" in emails to others. (https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/1199447762443677697)
feniin
11-26-2019, 06:41 PM
If you think Donald Trump hasn't broken the law, you are a fucking retard.
BallzDeep
11-26-2019, 06:58 PM
I think it sounds like some peoples opinion want to be law regardless if a large portion of the population disagrees. If they go to trial and impeachment does not proceed, will you claim that you still know more than the trial itself. Just looking for some consistency here.
I think Republicans are saying "I'm defending Trump until you can prove a law was broken in the court of law. We are not taking people's opinions as evidence."
Democrats are saying "I want my opinion to be law. I don't care if quid pro quo is up for interpretation and I don't care if the people presenting the evidence might have another motive."
Trump might of had an agenda with Biden but didn't release anything to the public as a smear campaign news story. Before the case even hit trial, it had been decided he is guilty. One of the comments someone made earlier as a joke was "We need to impeach him so we can figure out whether he committed a crime or not." "He committed a crime, I just don't know which one when it comes to the exact law." These are the answers of idiots.
Wonkie
11-26-2019, 07:21 PM
I'm the smartest retard
I have learned a lesson to not quote funny posts like this
Shame on you
Horza
11-26-2019, 07:26 PM
Before the case even hit trial, it had been decided he is guilty. One of the comments someone made earlier as a joke was "We need to impeach him so we can figure out whether he committed a crime or not." "He committed a crime, I just don't know which one when it comes to the exact law." These are the answers of idiots.
https://i.imgur.com/3eeUYwR.jpg
Nirgon
11-26-2019, 07:35 PM
laughing stock of history, keep it up
BallzDeep
11-26-2019, 07:50 PM
https://i.imgur.com/3eeUYwR.jpg
Why would Trump be nailing himself to the cross? The cartoon is a swing and a miss because based on what you guys say, Trump doesn't take blame for anything. Which is it? He is a god among his voters and thinks he is dying for all sins or can't take blame for anything. Your narrative is kinda back and forth.
Ah, the age of the internet. Where someone can't properly communicate their point of view so they have to use news stories and memes to express their feelings.
Horza
11-26-2019, 07:59 PM
Why would Trump be nailing himself to the cross?
For withholding congressionally approved military aid to an ally in order to dig up dirt on his political rivals.
BallzDeep
11-26-2019, 08:10 PM
For withholding congressionally approved military aid to an ally in order to dig up dirt on his political rivals.
Uhh but that would collude with your previous posts that Trump would fight his way out if he was impeached or asked to resign. Jesus died for our sins willingly without a fight. Doesn't really make sense but maybe for you when you are looking real real hard.
Teppler
11-26-2019, 08:11 PM
For withholding congressionally approved military aid to an ally in order to dig up dirt on his political rivals.
Except neither of those are close to true. The idea he was withholding aid is extremely flimsy at best and saying he asked to “dig up dirt on his political rivals” is the stretch of the century. There was an alleged crime and he asked for it to be looked into, he didn’t say to find something specifically on anyone specifically.
Just another Mueller type distraction for people that hate America.
Teppler
11-26-2019, 08:14 PM
Wouldn't it be great if you had Trump saying a quote like this?
https://i.imgur.com/ME3joiY.jpg
Horza
11-26-2019, 08:26 PM
The idea he was withholding aid is extremely flimsy at best and saying he asked to “dig up dirt on his political rivals” is the stretch of the century.
The White House budget office's first official action to withhold $250 million in Pentagon aid to Ukraine came on the evening of July 25th, the same day President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky spoke on the phone. (https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/26/politics/ukraine-aid-trump-call-omb/index.html)
BallzDeep
11-26-2019, 08:35 PM
The White House budget office's first official action to withhold $250 million in Pentagon aid to Ukraine came on the evening of July 25th, the same day President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky spoke on the phone. (https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/26/politics/ukraine-aid-trump-call-omb/index.html)
And? You notice how they aren't claiming a crime minus the Impoundment Control Act of 1974 that they said "could've been violated." The rest was strictly someones opinion and speculation on how the events took place. If I give you a timeline, you can create any story you want but you need to prove it.
Horza
11-26-2019, 08:58 PM
President Trump is now distancing himself from Rudy Giuliani, claiming he did not direct Giuliani to act on his behalf in Ukraine in a new interview with Bill O'Reilly. (https://twitter.com/TheBeatWithAri/status/1199468634621566976)
kaluppo
11-26-2019, 09:10 PM
We have to impeach him to find out why he deserves it.
I see what you did there ;)
We have to pass it to find out what's in it reference.
Impeachment is a joke. Did you see Shiff this weekend? When asked if he thinks Trump should be impeached his answer was that he needs to go talk to his constituents, LOL.
Dems will either back off or the senate will take it and get to call all the witnesses that Shiff refused to let testify. Either way Trump stays in office and easily wins re-election next November.
Horza
11-26-2019, 09:17 PM
President Trump is now just making up poll numbers: "Support for Impeachment is dropping like a rock, down into the 20’s in some Polls." (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1198948075928268800)
BallzDeep
11-26-2019, 09:17 PM
Trump makes up poll numbers that show him winning handily: "Support for Impeachment is dropping like a rock, down into the 20’s in some Polls." (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1198948075928268800)
I don't know, the point I seemed to make in an earlier post was how all the left news organizations are terrible at polls and the Trump polls are probably a little more accurate. When I said the election, it was reference to the 2016 election. The left has consistently been putting out polls that no one likes Trump and Hillary would win, just for Trump to win. Conclusion: Trumps polls were actually more accurate.
Horza
11-26-2019, 09:19 PM
Okay, but I'm already aware that you don't know.
BallzDeep
11-26-2019, 09:20 PM
Okay, but I'm already aware that you don't know.
You are really good at never having to stick to your guns on anything. I wonder if that trait plays out in any other aspect of your life? And in case you didn't pick up on it, you are replying to sarcasm. Real zinger there.
Horza
11-26-2019, 09:25 PM
I'm sticking to my guns about Trump pulling favorable poll numbers out of thin air while you suckers just lap it up.
Teppler
11-26-2019, 09:32 PM
Lol democrats and their poll numbers. They never learn.
Horza
11-26-2019, 09:35 PM
Okay, but Trump is the one so obsessed about polls that he's resorted to just making them up.
feniin
11-26-2019, 10:04 PM
Okay, but Trump is the one so obsessed about polls that he's resorted to just making them up.
"Let's not let facts get in the way of a good lie" is the official slogan of the GOP
Rader
11-26-2019, 11:09 PM
I see what you did there ;)
We have to pass it to find out what's in it reference.
Impeachment is a joke. Did you see Shiff this weekend? When asked if he thinks Trump should be impeached his answer was that he needs to go talk to his constituents, LOL.
Dems will either back off or the senate will take it and get to call all the witnesses that Shiff refused to let testify. Either way Trump stays in office and easily wins re-election next November.
Libturds are such losers. That whole joke, Pelosi saying "we have to pass it to find out what is in it"... seriously? I could be three sheets to the wind and blitz out of my mind, and even in that state, I would never utter those words.
feniin
11-27-2019, 12:05 AM
https://apnews.com/dfb83eff04f14207892ef177a09d50c8
Trump’s defense that he withheld aid to Ukraine due to corruption concerns is shaky. Two weeks of hearings produced bountiful testimony that Trump was singularly focused on getting Ukraine to open investigations into Democrats.
In his first phone call with Ukraine’s new leader, in April, the White House said at the time that Trump discussed his interest in having Ukraine rein in widespread corruption. But in the recently released rough transcript of the call, he actually did not mention corruption at all.
Trump had $391 million in congressionally approved U.S. assistance withheld from Ukraine from July to September.
The Defense Department had already certified to congressional committees on May 23 that Ukraine had made enough progress on reducing corruption to receive the military assistance. Before the July hold on the aid, the Trump administration had approved sending aid to Ukraine nearly 50 times without holding it because of corruption concerns.
Witnesses testified that Trump did not articulate concerns about Ukraine corruption other than expressing interest into investigations that would benefit him politically.
In his July 25 call, Trump told Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy as they discussed military aid, “I would like for you to do us a favor, though” and investigate Joe Biden, his son and Democrats going back to the 2016 U.S. election, based on a discredited theory involving purported Ukrainian interference in the election.
Trump ultimately released the aid, on Sept. 11, after Congress became aware of what he had done. A few days earlier, congressional committees had begun looking into the matter, aware that a whistleblower had a complaint in motion.
Mulvaney already admitted on national TV the hold was put on to pressure them about the Biden statement. We don't really need any more evidence, but it keeps piling up regardless.
BallzDeep
11-27-2019, 12:06 AM
"Let's not let facts get in the way of a good lie" is the official slogan of the GOP
Horza references Trump and making up polls numbers that actually turned out to be more in his favor in 2016. Feniin responds with something completely made up. It is ironically not the slogan of the GOP and you are referencing a quote about facts. Jesus Christ you couldn't make this shit up.
Valeriya
11-27-2019, 12:07 AM
Trumps going to win
feniin
11-27-2019, 12:07 AM
Horza references Trump and making up polls numbers that actually turned out to be more in his favor in 2016. Feniin responds with something completely made up. It is completely and ironically not the slogan of the GOP and you are referencing a quote about facts. Jesus Christ you couldn't make this shit up.
You sound upset.
Valeriya
11-27-2019, 12:08 AM
You sound upset.
Dont listen to feniin hes an idiot
Valeriya
11-27-2019, 12:08 AM
Libturds are such losers. That whole joke, Pelosi saying "we have to pass it to find out what is in it"... seriously? I could be three sheets to the wind and blitz out of my mind, and even in that state, I would never utter those words.
BallzDeep
11-27-2019, 12:10 AM
You sound upset.
It's okay, I know you can't defend your own points but you can't change the subject to a "you mad?" when you can't recognize hypocrisy. Your son would be proud, a bookkeeper that resorts to a "you mad?" Man, we need more of those.
Valeriya
11-27-2019, 12:12 AM
;'
BallzDeep
11-27-2019, 12:15 AM
I'd be curious if Feniin teaches his son that a lie is okay as long as it's something that you agree with. Real white knight over here.
Valeriya
11-27-2019, 12:17 AM
I'd be curious if Feniin teaches his son that a lie is okay as long as it's something that you agree with. Real white knight over here.
He lives in his moms basement and doesnt work either.
Valeriya
11-27-2019, 12:21 AM
I've been having dinner with Horza's mom though..... shes quite the trump supporter these days
feniin
11-27-2019, 12:22 AM
Going to just ignore the actual news I posted in favor of getting hung up on the obvious trolling? You're far too sensitive about your cult of liars, BD.
Valeriya
11-27-2019, 12:24 AM
Going to just ignore the actual news I posted in favor of getting hung up on the obvious trolling? You're far too sensitive about your cult of liars, BD.
Damn dude your views really are radical..... thats some dangerous thinking want the crisis hotline?
feniin
11-27-2019, 12:26 AM
Damn dude your views really are radical..... thats some dangerous thinking want the crisis hotline?
Where do you fall on the political compass, Valeriya? somewhere around Mussolini?
Valeriya
11-27-2019, 12:28 AM
Where do you fall on the political compass, Valeriya? somewhere around Mussolini?
We all know you have problems Feniin its okay most of us just laugh at you and horza anyways
BallzDeep
11-27-2019, 12:30 AM
Going to just ignore the actual news I posted in favor of getting hung up on the obvious trolling? You're far too sensitive about your cult of liars, BD.
No, just pointing out that you don't really contribute any real information. It is mostly your opinion, youre assuming for people, you referencing news articles that most likely have some bias and running to any safe word you can think of like racist, bigot, Hitler, anything where you don't actually have to validate your point. You feel like your point is validated just by calling someone that. It just makes you as stupid as the red necks who love Trump that don't know anything about politics.
feniin
11-27-2019, 12:32 AM
No, just pointing out that you don't really contribute any real information. It is mostly your opinion, youre assuming for people, you referencing news articles that most likely have some bias and running to any safe word you can think of like racist, bigot, Hitler, anything where you don't actually have to validate your point. You feel like your point is validated just by calling someone that. It just makes you as stupid as the red necks who love Trump that don't know anything about politics.
Stop being so sensitive, snowflake, and address the Associated Press article. You and Teppler are always the victim :rolleyes:
Valeriya
11-27-2019, 12:33 AM
Stop being so sensitive, snowflake, and address the Associated Press article. You and Teppler are always the victim :rolleyes:
Total libturd responce
BallzDeep
11-27-2019, 12:33 AM
Stop being so sensitive, snowflake, and address the Associated Press article. You and Teppler are always the victim :rolleyes:
Asking for consistency isn't being sensitive. You just like using that as well since you are typically the one asking for change. We are okay with Trump. You are mad. Remember that and then ask who the snowflake is.
Valeriya
11-27-2019, 12:33 AM
Trumps going to win
Wonkie
11-27-2019, 12:36 AM
Asking for consistency isn't being sensitive. You just like using that as well since you are typically the one asking for change. We are okay with Trump. You are mad. Remember that and then ask who the snowflake is.
What is asking for consistency?
I'm sure there's a word for this philosophy system.
Please Google it for me.
feniin
11-27-2019, 12:39 AM
Asking for consistency isn't being sensitive. You just like using that as well since you are typically the one asking for change. We are okay with Trump. You are mad. Remember that and then ask who the snowflake is.
Mulvaney already admitted on national TV the hold was put on to pressure them about the Biden statement. We don't really need any more evidence, but it keeps piling up regardless.
BallzDeep
11-27-2019, 12:43 AM
Stop being so sensitive, snowflake, and address the Associated Press article. You and Teppler are always the victim :rolleyes:
On your AP article. I don't care about when the portrait was hung. You are taking advice of when the portrait arrived from when other offices received it and no discussion of when she didn't hang it. It might of arrived late but she claims she hung it after that. Did she? You are blindly trusting someones word that is openly speaking out against the President. You now need to proceed with caution. You just already eat up anything fed to you.
The second piece was how Trump had the claim that we need to stop funding Ukraine and why are we always the sucker? If you weren't an idiot and actually read the article it said our administration is just paying 400 million for this aid package. That did not include money from NATO. It said overall the EU has donated 16 billion. NATO organizations donate more. Guess who the top donator of NATO is? The United States by a VERY large margin.
You article is terribly written and doesn't understand that we not only send aid through the administration but through NATO funding as well as the top donator.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6745786/nato-contributions-country-who-pay-most-least-2-percent-gdp-target-trump/
"The United States contributes the most to the alliance, funding around 70 per cent of Nato spending.
This adds up to roughly £501billion, or two thirds of total spending on national budgets."
Hazek
11-27-2019, 12:47 AM
"America first"
HA HA JAY KAY
BallzDeep
11-27-2019, 12:49 AM
“Let me be clear, there was absolutely no quid pro quo between Ukrainian military aid and any investigation into the 2016 election,” he said in the statement. “The president never told me to withhold any money until the Ukrainians did anything related to the server. The only reasons we were holding the money was because of concern about lack of support from other nations and concerns over corruption . . . There never was any condition on the flow of the aid related to the matter of the DNC server.”
Like I said you are arguing for Mulvaney like "See he admitted it and if you ask him, he will admit it!" They've asked multiple times. And just for a second clarification on the actual reference you misinterpreted.
"In a news conference, Mulvaney for the first time conceded that the lack of a Ukrainian inquiry into the origins of the Russia investigation played a role in the United States withholding military aid from it over “corruption” issues.
“[Did] he also mention to me, in the past, that the corruption related to the DNC server?” Mulvaney said. “Absolutely, no question about that. But that’s it. And that’s why we held up the money. ... The look back to what happened in 2016 certainly was part of the thing that he was worried about in corruption with that nation. And that is absolutely appropriate.”
Mulvaney said Trump had not, however, had a similar quid pro quo involving the other investigation he desired — the one involving the Bidens. “The money held up had absolutely nothing to do with Biden,” he said.
BallzDeep
11-27-2019, 01:10 AM
The point he is making is that we hold funds all the time while we working with countries for political decisions. If a certain country isn't upholding to the nations standards, it is common place to hold money while you investigate the issue or work on reform. This was even a thing with Venezuela not long again. If NATO was taking advantage of money, you hold the money while you investigate. The democrats are just upset that he was asking to investigate one of their own and consider that abusing power to have political influence in the elections. The democrats are already guilty of that, look at the celebrities they utilize to try and reach millions. The media companies they utilize to push the same talking points. It's a pretty even field if you ask me and if Trump is looking into how far the DNC is corrupt, he should be able to within the realm of not uttering the words that would violate law. He needs to threaten and then hold. You never got the threat. Quid Pro Quo in law refers to "A contract must involve consideration: that is, the exchange of something of value for something else of value."
There was never a verbal, written or any form of agreement.
feniin
11-27-2019, 01:16 AM
instead of quid pro quo, which is problematic wording, let's just call it what it is: extortion or bribery.
BallzDeep
11-27-2019, 01:18 AM
"Such conduct becomes bribery only when there is an identifiable exchange between the contribution and official acts"
Can you at least see where that definition would be problematic too?
I'll let you check out extortion.
Horza
11-27-2019, 01:38 AM
The point he is making is that we hold funds all the time while we working with countries for political decisions. If a certain country isn't upholding to the nations standards, it is common place to hold money while you investigate the issue or work on reform. This was even a thing with Venezuela not long again. If NATO was taking advantage of money, you hold the money while you investigate.
Withholding congressionally approved aid in order to dig up dirt on your political rival is hardly something that is commonplace.
Valeriya
11-27-2019, 01:47 AM
Withholding congressionally approved aid in order to dig up dirt on your political rival is hardly something that is commonplace.
Oh boy here comes Horza the Hillary Clinton of p99
Valeriya
11-27-2019, 01:51 AM
'
Horza
11-27-2019, 01:55 AM
Oh boy here comes Horza the Hillary Clinton of p99
You're going to have to be funnier than that if you want to be signature-worthy.
Valeriya
11-27-2019, 01:56 AM
You're going to have to be funnier than that if you want to be signature-worthy.
Quit crying Hillary
Valeriya
11-27-2019, 02:18 AM
Uh oh horzas triggered.
Horza
11-27-2019, 03:41 AM
White House budget officials resigned amid frustration with President Trump’s order to freeze military assistance to Ukraine. (https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/26/democrats-trump-budget-ukraine-aid-074016)
Mark Sandy, whose closed-door deposition transcript was released Tuesday, said concerns about the hold on military aid caused at least two officials to resign. One stepped down over concerns that the hold was violating the Impoundment Control Act of 1974, which sharply curbs the executive branch’s authority to alter congressionally appropriated funds; another resigned over “frustrations about not understanding the reason for the hold.”
kaluppo
11-27-2019, 04:40 AM
White House budget officials resigned amid frustration with President Trump’s order to freeze military assistance to Ukraine. (https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/26/democrats-trump-budget-ukraine-aid-074016)
Mark Sandy, whose closed-door deposition transcript was released Tuesday, said concerns about the hold on military aid caused at least two officials to resign. One stepped down over concerns that the hold was violating the Impoundment Control Act of 1974, which sharply curbs the executive branch’s authority to alter congressionally appropriated funds; another resigned over “frustrations about not understanding the reason for the hold.”
So what? When you are an official working for an administration, regardless of your position, you serve at the pleasure of the president to advance his agenda. If you disagree with the policies then you should resign.
The problem was Trump didn't get rid of all the Obama hold overs on day one and replace them all. Instead he gave them all a chance and some are proving to be leakers and or resisters.
Yet he has still weathered every storm the left has thrown at him, has provided an economy that is setting records and is well on his way to another electoral landslide victory that may very well surpass what he did to Hillary.
It's gonna be fun to watch him for another 4 years.
Hazek
11-27-2019, 05:48 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jrr5A1y9sog
Kaveh
11-27-2019, 06:59 AM
So what? When you are an official working for an administration, regardless of your position, you serve at the pleasure of the president to advance his agenda. If you disagree with the policies then you should resign.
The problem was Trump didn't get rid of all the Obama hold overs on day one and replace them all. Instead he gave them all a chance and some are proving to be leakers and or resisters.
Yet he has still weathered every storm the left has thrown at him, has provided an economy that is setting records and is well on his way to another electoral landslide victory that may very well surpass what he did to Hillary.
It's gonna be fun to watch him for another 4 years.
Obama hold overs....
That isn’t how our bureaucracy works. Career bureaucrats work for both republican and democratic administrations, usually without issue. The problem is, withholding military aid to a nation fighting Russia is blatantly anti-American and Reagan would’ve crucified TRUMP for such a commie appeasing offense. When did it become acceptable to aid America’s enemies? Russia delenda est
Teppler
11-27-2019, 08:06 AM
Kaveh thank you for CorrectingTheRecord about Russia and the Ukraine.
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
11-27-2019, 09:19 AM
Ronald. Good old Dutch.
Brainchild of SDI and holder of title of president with most corrupt administration.
A fine bench mark to hold any aspiring president too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan_administration_scandals
BallzDeep
11-27-2019, 10:46 AM
Obama hold overs....
That isn’t how our bureaucracy works. Career bureaucrats work for both republican and democratic administrations, usually without issue. The problem is, withholding military aid to a nation fighting Russia is blatantly anti-American and Reagan would’ve crucified TRUMP for such a commie appeasing offense. When did it become acceptable to aid America’s enemies? Russia delenda est
Lol man you've bought in super hard. If you are still fighting under the conspiracy theory that Russia directly was involved in our election due to only supporting Trump you are stupid.
In fact, most of the most damaging bot accounts that they created were in support of LIBERAL agenda.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/russia-troll-2020-election-interference-twitter-916482/
The whole purpose of the Russian bot program is to create division. They aren't specific to one party and feed off misinformation just as you so openly recited.
The accounts that they utilized to get people like you are the Tyra banks account, Melanie and much more.
"Professional disinformation isn’t spread by the account you disagree with — quite the opposite. Effective disinformation is embedded in an account you agree with. The professionals don’t push you away, they pull you toward them."
But sure, keep going down the path that there is a massive conspiracy theory and Trump directly works with the Russians.
BallzDeep
11-27-2019, 10:51 AM
Withholding congressionally approved aid in order to dig up dirt on your political rival is hardly something that is commonplace.
So it isn't commonplace to investigate when a crime is possibly committed, got it. That's an issue with your whole phrase. "Dig up dirt." He shouldn't have dirt. I'd argue Trump has been extensively vetted and more so then Biden. If the biggest dirt you have on Trump is hes looking into dirt on Biden that could possibly be true, it's just that fact you don't like he's looking into dirt and possible corruption. "Dirt" as you so put it, should be looked into.
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
11-27-2019, 10:54 AM
There could be dirt in his tax returns. But he wont release them.
If the only defense of this is "Why should he" then it seems we are in a whole new realm here.
He is the most powerful man arguably in the world now. If the worst thing people are asking him to do is show such a mundane item as tax returns I dont see the problem.
I mean you say he has commited no crimes and isnt corrupt. This will surely verify that beyond a shadow of a doubt yes? I fail to see a downside of releasing them.
BallzDeep
11-27-2019, 01:30 PM
There could be dirt in his tax returns. But he wont release them.
If the only defense of this is "Why should he" then it seems we are in a whole new realm here.
He is the most powerful man arguably in the world now. If the worst thing people are asking him to do is show such a mundane item as tax returns I dont see the problem.
I mean you say he has commited no crimes and isnt corrupt. This will surely verify that beyond a shadow of a doubt yes? I fail to see a downside of releasing them.
I'm just curious as how many roads we have to go down until you finally get some evidence. I'm tired of "try every avenue until we get something that can stick." That in itself is a worse precedent to set than Trump evading taxes in my opinion. There are certainly things I would condemn Trump for but a wild goose chase on Russia, misogyny, racism, Ukraine, his tax returns, it goes on and on.
Hence my comment to Horza earlier about Trump being nailed to a cross for our sins. The joke sucks and doesn't have much relevance. Someone who hates Trump sees it and thinks it's hilarious and applies perfectly to his situation. It doesn't. You are are searching for reasons to hate the guy based on some hate fueled bias from the media. You literally don't even know what he's like besides through some third party.
Why this is a bad example is simple. You are not required to submit your tax returns. What you do for your own personal business might not relate to policy and it is wrong from someone to attempt to use that as a counterpoint if you have utilized tax laws to your advantage. It means you know the law. When it comes to investigating corruption, it is completely logical and within your power to hold money until you can get to the bottom of an issue. As I said, just because you are looking into someone from the other political party that might be corrupt, doesn't mean you are violating the law unless you hold it as a threat.
mmmroo
11-27-2019, 01:58 PM
We have to impeach him to find out why he deserves it.
Just forget the impeachment, and get ready for a 2020 Trump presidency. Too many Russian conspiracy theories and Ukrainian nonsense that backfire to only strengthen his base and destroy his opponents (Biden).
Khorza
11-27-2019, 02:02 PM
Everyone in this thread: "There couldn't possibly be quid pro quo because Trump released the aid before anyone even cared about any of this."
Trump Knew There Was a Whistleblower When He Suddenly Released Military Aid to Ukraine (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/11/trump-whistleblower-released-ukraine-military-aid-quid-pro-quo-impeachment.html)
Uh oh! I wonder what the new spin will be now...
https://i.imgur.com/tjYLC4S.jpg
Khorza
11-27-2019, 02:06 PM
I'm just curious as how many roads we have to go down until you finally get some evidence.
There's mountains of evidence of the illegalities of the Trump administration, the problem is that half of the country is currently covering their eyes while yelling loudly.
This dude is such a criminal that at any time of the day there's always new evidence of fraud being uncovered and reported (https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-tower-financial-fraud-lenders-propublica-2019-11). That one was 3 hours ago.
mmmroo
11-27-2019, 02:17 PM
There's mountains of evidence of the illegalities of the Trump administration, the problem is that half of the country is currently covering their eyes while yelling loudly.
This dude is such a criminal that at any time of the day there's always new evidence of fraud being uncovered and reported (https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-tower-financial-fraud-lenders-propublica-2019-11). That one was 3 hours ago.
The tears when Trump wins in 2020 are going to be enormous, might even spark civil unrest.
Horza
11-27-2019, 02:22 PM
Hence my comment to Horza earlier about Trump being nailed to a cross for our sins. The joke sucks and doesn't have much relevance. Someone who hates Trump sees it and thinks it's hilarious and applies perfectly to his situation. It doesn't. You are are searching for reasons to hate the guy based on some hate fueled bias from the media.
The joke is that your apparent messiah's crucifixion is entirely self-inflicted, what with the admitting to serious crimes on national television and frequently associating with other criminals. There's no need to angrily lash out just because the joke went over your head.
Horza
11-27-2019, 02:33 PM
Rudy Giuliani negotiated this year to represent Ukraine’s top prosecutor for at least $200,000 at the same time they together sought to dig up dirt on former Vice President Joe Biden. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/giuliani-was-in-talks-to-be-paid-by-ukraines-top-prosecutor-as-they-together-sought-damaging-information-on-democrats/2019/11/27/636c3e86-112d-11ea-b0fc-62cc38411ebb_story.html)
feniin
11-27-2019, 02:50 PM
Rudy Giuliani negotiated this year to represent Ukraine’s top prosecutor for at least $200,000 at the same time they together sought to dig up dirt on former Vice President Joe Biden. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/giuliani-was-in-talks-to-be-paid-by-ukraines-top-prosecutor-as-they-together-sought-damaging-information-on-democrats/2019/11/27/636c3e86-112d-11ea-b0fc-62cc38411ebb_story.html)
Yeah but what about Obama and Hillary? Stop looking at Trump and let's look at the real crime: a tan suit and Dijon mustard
Horza
11-27-2019, 03:00 PM
Sen. Lindsey Graham said “Salem witches got a better deal” than Trump after viewing the House Judiciary Committee’s impeachment plans. (https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1199721905080672257)
Valeriya
11-27-2019, 03:02 PM
Trumps going to win
Khorza
11-27-2019, 03:11 PM
The tears when Trump wins in 2020 are going to be enormous, might even spark civil unrest.
I love how every conversation plays out the same way. Trump supporter claims some ridiculous fantasy, someone corrects them on their bullshit and the only response they can come up with is some juvenile "LUL LIBERAL TEARS 4 MORE YEARS" eyeroller.
Since you didn't actually have a substantive response to my comment, I guess you just accept the fact that the president is a criminal, and support him regardless.
My question is, when are you guys going to decide to take some autonomy over your lives and to actually start thinking for yourselves, instead of letting some old crook on the television do your thinking for you?
And when are you going to realize that everyone else around you knows that you fell victim for the world's most obvious pyramid scheme? And when do you start pretending that you didn't actually support Trump, just like you guys did with Bush once we found out that he lied to everyone to justify his little crusade in Iraq?
Horza
11-27-2019, 03:12 PM
https://i.imgur.com/G7j49tp.jpg
Teppler
11-27-2019, 03:16 PM
I love how every conversation plays out the same way. Trump supporter claims some ridiculous fantasy, someone corrects them on their bullshit and the only response they can come up with is some juvenile "LUL LIBERAL TEARS 4 MORE YEARS" eyeroller.
Since you didn't actually have a substantive response to my comment, I guess you just accept the fact that the president is a criminal, and support him regardless.
My question is, when are you guys going to decide to take some autonomy over your lives and to actually start thinking for yourselves, instead of letting some old crook on the television do your thinking for you?
And when are you going to realize that everyone else around you knows that you fell victim for the world's most obvious pyramid scheme? And when do you start pretending that you didn't actually support Trump or the things he believed in, just like you guys did with Bush once we found out that he lied to everyone to justify a little crusade in Iraq?
The 90's were a lot more normal socially. Different races weren't at each others throat constantly. Our debt wasn't that bad. Our jobs #s were good.
You know what has changed in policy since then? We've shifted very far to the left.
Positions that were known as moderate democrat opinions in the 90s are known as right wing extremist now. Seriously look at positions Bill Clinton ran on.
So when you point out this idea of right wingers being unreasonable consider this..... What was considered normal in the 90s is crazy and extremist now and it isn't the right wing that's changed. Right wingers largely haven't changed. It's been wacky ass leftist and policies that is making the world ugly. Sorry if people have a response to that.
feniin
11-27-2019, 03:20 PM
Could just be the right wing fear mongering for the last 20 years.
Zeboim
11-27-2019, 03:20 PM
That bump was the sound of Rudy getting thrown under the bus.
BallzDeep
11-27-2019, 03:25 PM
I love how every conversation plays out the same way. Trump supporter claims some ridiculous fantasy, someone corrects them on their bullshit and the only response they can come up with is some juvenile "LUL LIBERAL TEARS 4 MORE YEARS" eyeroller.
Since you didn't actually have a substantive response to my comment, I guess you just accept the fact that the president is a criminal, and support him regardless.
My question is, when are you guys going to decide to take some autonomy over your lives and to actually start thinking for yourselves, instead of letting some old crook on the television do your thinking for you?
And when are you going to realize that everyone else around you knows that you fell victim for the world's most obvious pyramid scheme? And when do you start pretending that you didn't actually support Trump, just like you guys did with Bush once we found out that he lied to everyone to justify his little crusade in Iraq?
Trump supporters claim some ridiculous fantasy. There is only one group of people here claiming they are looking to change the status quo and attempting court case after court case. You are literally on the fighting side of restricting freedoms and claiming you are right.
mmmroo
11-27-2019, 03:25 PM
I love how every conversation plays out the same way. Trump supporter claims some ridiculous fantasy, someone corrects them on their bullshit and the only response they can come up with is some juvenile "LUL LIBERAL TEARS 4 MORE YEARS" eyeroller.
Since you didn't actually have a substantive response to my comment, I guess you just accept the fact that the president is a criminal, and support him regardless.
My question is, when are you guys going to decide to take some autonomy over your lives and to actually start thinking for yourselves, instead of letting some old crook on the television do your thinking for you?
And when are you going to realize that everyone else around you knows that you fell victim for the world's most obvious pyramid scheme? And when do you start pretending that you didn't actually support Trump, just like you guys did with Bush once we found out that he lied to everyone to justify his little crusade in Iraq?
I am not a Trump supporter, i want Tulsi Gabbard to win but she won't because the DNC is corrupt to the core.
Trump will win because the Dems won't nominate someone who can beat Trump. So when Trump wins in 2020 don't blame the the Trump supporters, blame the corrupt DNC that can't seem to get past russian conspiracy theories and just focus on nominating a viable candidate. Anyways this will not end well so prepare for madness when the tears flow.
Horza
11-27-2019, 03:28 PM
That bump was the sound of Rudy getting thrown under the bus.
Don't worry too much about Giuliani, he has insurance.
I am not a Trump supporter, i want Tulsi Gabbard to win but she won't because the DNC is corrupt to the core.
Gabbard supporters are Trump supporters.
Zeboim
11-27-2019, 03:31 PM
You really couldn't come up with a more realistic muppet for your fake support than Tulsi Gabbard? Lmao
Horza
11-27-2019, 03:33 PM
Tulsi Gabbard defends Fox News on the Joe Rogan podcast: “I think in some of these areas, Tucker and I will disagree on a whole host of things, but on some of these issues of foreign policy he’ll say, ‘Yeah, I agree with you.'” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A1dTRCe7jg)
mmmroo
11-27-2019, 03:36 PM
You really couldn't come up with a more realistic muppet for your fake support than Tulsi Gabbard? Lmao
Tulsi Gabbard i think is the most viable option to beat Trump, Bernie Sanders also but i prefer Tulsi because she never took a knee to Hillary Clinton so she has much more credibility in my eyes. Tulsi has balls to take on Hillary Clinton like she has recently, so i think she can take Trump in the debates. Biden is a joke and he needs to retire to an old folks home asap.
Horza
11-27-2019, 03:39 PM
Gabbard is polling at about one percent right now, she isn't the most viable candidate by any metric.
BallzDeep
11-27-2019, 03:59 PM
Don't worry too much about Giuliani, he has insurance.
Gabbard supporters are Trump supporters.
Safe space warrior is attempting to dictate where you affiliation lies. He knows your own political affiliation and racism better than you do and he's always right. Stay tuned for the next episode of safe space warriors.
BallzDeep
11-27-2019, 04:01 PM
In all reality isn't it very Trump-like to dictate where peoples political affiliations lie and what they stand for? Once you start applying blanket statements that you assume everyone's standpoint on race, politics and where everyone stands on the spectrum. Wouldn't that in turn be racist and bigoted?
Horza
11-27-2019, 04:11 PM
Gabbard has very few supporters among actual Democratic primary voters, but her message is amplified by Fox News and other conservative outlets because attacking Hillary Clinton brings in the clicks even still in 2019.
BallzDeep
11-27-2019, 04:17 PM
Gabbard has very few supporters among actual Democratic primary voters, but her message is amplified by Fox News and other conservative outlets because attacking Hillary Clinton brings in the clicks even in 2019.
Ok but that doesn't justify your position that you are consistency labeling people based on what you deem their political affiliation or philosophical views for them. They will even correct you and you still label people based on your opinion. How is that any different than racism?
You are literally just substituting for race for anything you deem as a negative point of view. You literally think you are inferior to those points of view and your self determination of their philosophy is correct minus the fact that 1000 different people could get 1000 different takeaways from one persons philosophy. That's why you can't utilize 99% of the arguments that you've made here.
Hence why you need to side on caution when labeling or grouping people because that's a very shallow point of view.
Teppler
11-27-2019, 04:46 PM
Tulsi Gabbard defends Fox News on the Joe Rogan podcast: “I think in some of these areas, Tucker and I will disagree on a whole host of things, but on some of these issues of foreign policy he’ll say, ‘Yeah, I agree with you.'” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A1dTRCe7jg)
Very misleading headline. Tucker is a stand out at Fox News, he isn’t Fox News. For example, I like Tucker a lot. I tend to not like Fox News as a whole.
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