the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[Elizondo]

Awe hell … who wants to see at least 75 pictured defendants with weapons at the Jan 6 protest at the capital.

https://news.yahoo.com/guns-knives-flagpoles-skateboard-guide-174530861.html

ReiRei .. I get it you are bored you want argue something along the lines of neutrality.

Elizondo and Homestead seek help.

Brownshirt Botten triggered so badly

Still hiding under his bed afraid of shamans taking selfies in The Capitol

[Botten]

Brownshirt Botten triggered so badly

Still hiding under his bed afraid of shamans taking selfies in The Capitol

The irony, today your stupid QAnon Queen was recently arrested too.

The ‘QAnon Queen’ Told Her Followers to Arrest Cops. It Didn’t Go Well. (https://flipboard.com/topic/justintrudeau/the-qanon-queen-told-her-followers-to-arrest-cops-it-didn-t-go-well/a-rluty0tGSrOJ8EF94iDojA%3Aa%3A910331335-9f3a34e26f%2Fvice.com)

[Elizondo]

The irony, today your stupid QAnon Queen was recently arrested too.

The ‘QAnon Queen’ Told Her Followers to Arrest Cops. It Didn’t Go Well. (https://flipboard.com/topic/justintrudeau/the-qanon-queen-told-her-followers-to-arrest-cops-it-didn-t-go-well/a-rluty0tGSrOJ8EF94iDojA%3Aa%3A910331335-9f3a34e26f%2Fvice.com)

You're the only person in the entire country who even knows who that person is

Hope that helps

[Botten]

You're the only person in the entire country who even knows who that person is

Hope that helps

Don’t lie you Larp with them.

Go quickly, save them, put on your Buff Gnome QMagician bondage waifu costume.

Tell no one your safe word.

[Kaveh]

Republicans are pulling ads for senate in Pennsylvania, Arizona, and Wisconsin

I get giving up in PA and AZ; those races have Republican candidates who couldn’t win in Alabama. But Wisconsin?

I wonder what Republican internal polling is showing

[Reiwa]

Republicans are pulling ads for senate in Pennsylvania, Arizona, and Wisconsin

I get giving up in PA and AZ; those races have Republican candidates who couldn’t win in Alabama. But Wisconsin?

I wonder what Republican internal polling is showing

Oz must have some oppo coming out. Probably touched a lady. Fetterman running the Biden basement campaign still?

Dunno the other 2.

[Elizondo]

Don’t lie you Larp with them.

Go quickly, save them, put on your Buff Gnome QMagician bondage waifu costume.

Tell no one your safe word.

lol dude

Sorry your JAN6! kangaroo court and Mara Lago Gestapo raid failing so badly

[Elizondo]

Republicans are pulling ads for senate in Pennsylvania, Arizona, and Wisconsin

I get giving up in PA and AZ; those races have Republican candidates who couldn’t win in Alabama. But Wisconsin?

I wonder what Republican internal polling is showing

Fake News

[robayon]

Fake NewsYou're probably right, I'd be showing fake news if I was in charge of republican internal messaging as well

[Kaveh]

Pulling $10 million in ads to spend on more competitive races

[Kaveh]

Fake News

Damn you’re tedious

[Elizondo]

Pulling $10 million in ads to spend on more competitive races

It's August dude

Calm down

[Domo]

I would be so tired of the whole Trumpism over the past 6-8 years(?). I mean I am. I cant imagine how it is for you americans who getting in on a daily(?) dose.
I think I would run around with a "I want boring politics" sign.

[Rethalis]

I would be so tired of the whole Trumpism over the past 6-8 years(?). I mean I am. I cant imagine how it is for you americans who getting in on a daily(?) dose.
I think I would run around with a "I want boring politics" sign.

It's annoying, it's comedic. But trump produces good ratings for the networks.

[Domo]

But trump produces good ratings for the networks.

Without having any numbers I think you're right. Trump and the people around him really have an "rubber neck" effect. "He said what??? No he didnt...OMG He did!"

[Botten]

It's August dude

Calm down

Ha! Suddenly it is real to Elizondo after he called it fake news.

Cope more.

MAGA like Tea Party = dying :)

[Homesteaded]

Without having any numbers I think you're right. Trump and the people around him really have an "rubber neck" effect. "He said what??? No he didnt...OMG He did!"

You guys must know that the Left is what loves Trump right? You guys are obsessed with him.

[Domo]

You guys must know that the Left is what loves Trump right? You guys are obsessed with him.

1) The right-wing in america is so far right that anything for them is left-wing.
2) I do not disagree with you. I think a lot of people feel superior when they listen to the hardcore bullshit Trump and the people around him say.

I mean I am not a smart cookie, but when Trump said that drinking bleech and getting sun is a cure for covid it boosted my self-esteem. Without being a doctor I knew right away it would kill you. Few days later when an elder couple died because they did what Trump said and drank bleech I felt proved right.

I really dont know all stuff what Trump and his pals said and did, but even the surface of it is a lot.

But yeah, I agree and think too that "the left" is obsessed with Trump and his bullshit.

[Botten]

You guys must know that the Left is what loves Trump right? You guys are obsessed with him.

Oh O'RLY (https://www.project1999.com/forums/search.php?searchid=23508938) HA! Crank that Biden Syndrome!

[Elizondo]

Ha! Suddenly it is real to Elizondo after he called it fake news.

Cope more.

MAGA like Tea Party = dying :)

lol dude

It's August

Put down the free Biden crack pipe

[robayon]

You guys must know that the Left is what loves Trump right? You guys are obsessed with him.It isn't love. Learn the difference. Note that you aren't pointing this criticism to the man who literally refers to him as a God-King.

[Jibartik]

It's love in the same sense that a heroin addict loves heroin.

[robayon]

I am not addicted to talking about that dude. I am addicted to finding hypocrisy and The Right gives me opportunities daily.

[Elizondo]

I mean I am not a smart cookie, but when Trump said that drinking bleech and getting sun is a cure for covid it boosted my self-esteem. Without being a doctor I knew right away it would kill you. Few days later when an elder couple died because they did what Trump said and drank bleech I felt proved right.

lol dude

Trump never told anyone to "drink bleach"

I agree that you're not a smart cookie

[Jibartik]

I am not addicted to talking about that dude. I am addicted to finding hypocrisy and The Right gives me opportunities daily.

haha hypocracy is a bad choice of words when you're talking about only one "side" in politics.

Being the workers party, but making your administration run by bankers and bailing out the banks, and inflating the cost of living for poor people, and increasing the inflation rate to fix all those bailouts that you gave the rich, is about as anti working class as you can get.

[Domo]

lol dude

Trump never told anyone to "drink bleach"

I agree that you're not a smart cookie

you're right. I messed it up a bit.

President Trump claims injecting people with disinfectant could treat coronavirus (https://youtu.be/33QdTOyXz3w)

[robayon]

haha hypocracy is a bad choice of words when you're talking about only one "side" in politics.

Being the workers party, but making your administration run by bankers and bailing out the banks, and inflating the cost of living for poor people, and increasing the inflation rate to fix all those bailouts that you gave the rich, is about as anti working class as you can get.That's all true, but I generally avoid publicly criticizing Democrats much because I'm not going to do the chud's job for them.

Plus, watching conservative criticism of liberals usually reveals weaknesses in conservative 'arguments'.

[Reiwa]

1) The right-wing in america is so far right that anything for them is left-wing.

You only think that because Europe has major parties that are openly Socialist. :p

[Domo]

You only think that because Europe has major parties that are openly Socialist. :p

I think Europe have a diffrent definition of Socialism than America does.

[Jibartik]

That's all true, but I generally avoid publicly criticizing Democrats much because I'm not going to do the chud's job for them.

Well, that's why I always called them chuds. Because they wouldn't admit what they were doing is wrong, and stop doing it.

I believe voting for the sake of voting is a problem. It seem sto make people hire their boss they already know they hate and is a bad boss, just becuase they think they have to have a boss.

Like, if people just didnt vote when they dont care about the party, then we might have a decent party.

If only like 10 million democrats vote, then someone like bernie sanders would win. Because he'd campaign as an independant and like 60 million independants would vote for him.

But the independants are conditionted to just vote "for teh sake of voting" not for anything they want.

And when a people are conditionted to vote because they need to vote, its their right, and they must do it as a like, honor of that right.

Then that brainwashes them into voting for bad bosses they hate, just because they HAVE to vote for someone.

Abandon the parites, stop voting. Everyone should. Everyone should just boycott this awful system of chud vs chud.

[Reiwa]

I think Europe have a diffrent definition of Socialism than America does.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Germany

[Elizondo]

you're right. I messed it up a bit.

President Trump claims injecting people with disinfectant could treat coronavirus (https://youtu.be/33QdTOyXz3w)

He was talking about UV Light Therapy dummy

[Domo]

He was talking about UV Light Therapy dummy

you won, ya should keep following this man and protect him at all cost.

[Jibartik]

you won, ya should keep following this man and protect him at all cost.

Just a reminder, the like, best other option said, "If what ya whi what while skinibdinipipi, hoober, cmon!"

:(

[Domo]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Germany

?

Anyways, I like the socialism in my country. Its a foundation pillar of my society which protects my people. Its similar to the thing in the US Military?! (nobody getting left behind)

[Elizondo]

you won, ya should keep following this man and protect him at all cost.

Ok Groomer

[robayon]

I think Europe have a diffrent definition of Socialism than America does.https://i.redd.it/12pekgrxpb491.jpg

[MrSparkle001]

I think Europe have a diffrent definition of Socialism than America does.

In America socialism is one step away from communism, and communism is for the losers that can't hack it in a capitalist society. They think they're Robin Hoods, wanting to take from the rich and give to the poor, but in reality they're more like these Occupy Wall Street losers in their loser masks.

https://i.insider.com/51d2db166bb3f7b779000000?width=750&format=jpeg&auto=webp

[robayon]

Abandon the parites, stop voting. Everyone should. Everyone should just boycott this awful system of chud vs chud.How would you feel about a national voting holiday? What about compulsory voting?

[robayon]

In America socialism is one step away from communism, and communism is for the losers that can't hack it in a capitalist society. They think they're Robin Hoods, wanting to take from the rich and give to the poor, but in reality they're more like these Occupy Wall Street losers in their loser masks.

https://i.insider.com/51d2db166bb3f7b779000000?width=750&format=jpeg&auto=webpWhat's the step that separates American socialists from full-blown communism? You said there's one step. What is it?

[Jibartik]

How would you feel about a national voting holiday? What about compulsory voting?

I think people need to just think voting in federal elections is less important than it is.

Like we shouldn't just be telling everyone to vote because it's their right. We should tell people to vote, if they feel inclined to.

I dont know much about how rank choice voting is bad, but on paper it sounded a bit better than our current system.

[Elizondo]

Has anyone that supports Socialism/Communism ever read about Marx' life?

He was a total degenerate loser

[Reiwa]

What's the step that separates American socialists from full-blown communism? You said there's one step. What is it?

I think they don't want to abolish the state, a necessary step for true communism? :p

For the record I was just heckling Domo about why he thinks the things. SPD is close enough to OK I guess fine.

[Jibartik]

Socialists hate money but like the capitalists, they've been conditioned by the beast to think that it buys happiness.

Big sad :(

[Elizondo]

Socialists hate money but like the capitalists, they've been conditioned by the beast to think that it buys happiness.

Big sad :(

Socialists LOVE money

Other people's money and they want a monopoly on it

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/cVAueHx.png

[unsunghero]

I bet the suspects were white

Lifehack: Don’t be Asian in NY or SF

[unsunghero]

When Asians fight back:

Can’t a crazy homeless guy go around doing drugs and sucker punching people in the face without getting jiu jitsued anymore? What’s the goddamn world coming to??

[Domo]

Anyway, I like that even though my country is capitalist it still contains some socialism :)

[robayon]

Anyway, I like that even though my country is capitalist it still contains some socialism :)Most of the fellas on this forum don't understand the difference between one and the other

[Jibartik]

Aren't they rationing hot water and energy in that country though? :(

[Domo]

Aren't they rationing hot water and energy in that country though? :(

not really true, not 100% wrong.

If shit is hitting the fan you have to react.

I think I remember hearing once that in California(?) you must have special shower heads which spread the water better so people use less water while under the shower because the water reserve in california dont have enough water for all their people needs.

Anyways, the war in Ukraine and the russian sanctions are of course effecting my country negative and we have to react somehow. And if it means to lower the heaters a bit I am fine with it.
Many of my country people say "I dont mind to freeze for democracy/freedom".

Its a real problem we face and it will not only effect our heaters in the winter but also many production chains. Many people will lose money and jobs because of this and we need to find a solution in near future.

[Skarne]

I think it's time to nuke this thread.

[Reiwa]

I think it's time to nuke this thread.

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[Wrekt]

Kinda hard to overthrow the Government without any guns

the arab spring and 100s of other bloodless coups would like to have a word.

[Wrekt]

United States Government overthrown by 10 Men. One with a gun, 5 with knives and one with a mountain dew bottle of gasoline, the rest had zip ties!


Right.


You're delusional and being fed lies. It's time to grow up and wake up, both would be best for business.

there was a bomb. Boxes of guns in a qrf. Several people were charged with guns and weapons. U stupid or lying?

[Jibartik]

I dont mind to freeze for democracy/freedom".

Well, if that's what you think you're doing then go for it!

I wonder why you dont mind the companies providing heat are making record profits this year.

[Domo]

Well, if that's what you think you're doing then go for it!

I wonder why you dont mind the companies providing heat are making record profits this year.

Only because I dont put my patriot military cosplay on and go outside armed "protesting" does not mean I dont mind :)

[Elizondo]

the arab spring and 100s of other bloodless coups would like to have a word.

Wait, are you claiming a bunch of people strolling through the capitol and taking selfies could overthrow the US Government?

lol

there was a bomb. Boxes of guns in a qrf. Several people were charged with guns and weapons. U stupid or lying?

What bomb? The pipe bomb story was a Hoax

[Jibartik]

Only because I dont put my patriot military cosplay on and go outside armed "protesting" does not mean I dont mind :)

What made you change your mind? https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nato-summit-pipeline/trump-lashes-germany-over-gas-pipeline-deal-calls-it-russias-captive-idUSKBN1K10VI

[MrSparkle001]

When Asians fight back:

Can’t a crazy homeless guy go around doing drugs and sucker punching people in the face without getting jiu jitsued anymore? What’s the goddamn world coming to??

Did NY prosecute the MMA fighter for assault and battery? They seem to like to do shit like that https://nypost.com/2022/07/06/nyc-bodega-worker-jose-alba-charged-in-fatal-stabbing-feared-for-his-life-family-says/?fbclid=IwAR1tuohcgS-ojS80b0wZtWf6n0PtcI9-jp4FlQUdBdRr3UgjlptJj8BSeao (charges were eventually dropped but wtf).

[Skarne]

Wait, are you claiming a bunch of people strolling through the capitol and taking selfies could overthrow the US Government?

lol



What bomb? The pipe bomb story was a Hoax

dinosaurs are a hoax to you haha. everything is a hoax to you that doesnt fit into your narrow world view.

[Reiwa]

why didn't tromp call in the QRF if that was the plan? he still had his twitter at that point?

[Jibartik]

The twitter ban on trump doesn't seem to be working.

:(

[Elizondo]

dinosaurs are a hoax to you haha. everything is a hoax to you that doesnt fit into your narrow world view.

lol dude

The pipe bomb story was a hoax

Hope that helps

[Skarne]

lol dude

The pipe bomb story was a hoax

Hope that helps

Got any evidence? While you’re at it, how about the evidence for the 2020 election being rigged and stolen? I’ve been waiting 2 years for evidence of both and nobody seems to have any.

[Rethalis]

LOL Peter Struck on msnbc defending the integrity of the FBI. FBI and dems are so SAD



https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/peter-strzok-the-fbi-isn-t-targeting-one-side-or-the-other-146193989587

[Elizondo]

Got any evidence? While you’re at it, how about the evidence for the 2020 election being rigged and stolen? I’ve been waiting 2 years for evidence of both and nobody seems to have any.

Skarne Asada doesn't comprehend he has to prove the pipe bombs were real

Comedy ensues

[Skarne]

Skarne Asada doesn't comprehend he has to prove the pipe bombs were real

Comedy ensues

Lol and you can’t comprehend you’re in a cult.

[Evia]

You're either in trumps cult , the establishments cult, or the outsiders cult.

Cause no matter what cult you choose to side with you're still gobbling up their narrative second hand and regurgitating it as facts and knowledge.

[Skarne]

You're either in trumps cult , the establishments cult, or the outsiders cult.

Cause no matter what cult you choose to side with you're still gobbling up their narrative second hand and regurgitating it as facts and knowledge.

I always vote for the party that I feel does the most good and the least damage to our country. Right now the GOP is promoting authoritarian policies and is actively harming the country with it’s dis and misinformation. They also incite violence. Of course I’m going blue this election cycle even though I’ve voted R almost every cycle. There are lots and lots of people like me.

[Rethalis]

You're either in trumps cult , the establishments cult, or the outsiders cult.

Cause no matter what cult you choose to side with you're still gobbling up their narrative second hand and regurgitating it as facts and knowledge.

To be in a cult one has to plead fealty. Not sure a vote counts enough.

[Elizondo]

Lol and you can’t comprehend you’re in a cult.

Skarne Asada accuses others of being in a cult

Believes planet only has 10 years left cuz "Global Warming"

43v9SaeQif4

[Evia]

I always vote for the party that I feel does the most good and the least damage to our country. Right now the GOP is promoting authoritarian policies and is actively harming the country with it’s dis and misinformation. They also incite violence. Of course I’m going blue this election cycle even though I’ve voted R almost every cycle. There are lots and lots of people like me.

It's funny because I've always leaned more D most of my life but have been leaning more R lately because the AOC is promoting authoritarian policies(vax mandates, global warming mandates) and is actively harming our country with its dis and mis information (covid lies, ivermectin lies, ukraine lies, bidens gaff corrections). They also incite violence (blm riots) Oh and add ww3, tanking our economy and censorship.


See what I mean? I genuinely feel strongly about that as I'm sure you do with your stance. We both choose to believe who we want to believe.

Genuinely curious what authoritarian policies the Republicans are promoting? You talking abortion with the roe vs wade shit? That one I can kinda agree with you on if so even tho I'm against abortion personally. Government shouldn't be involved.

[suptoofs]

It's funny because I've always leaned more D most of my life but have been leaning more R lately because the AOC is promoting authoritarian policies and is actively harming our country with its dis and mis information. They also incite violence. Oh and ww3 and tanking our economy.


See what I mean? I genuinely feel strongly about that as I'm sure you do with your stance. We both choose to believe who we want to believe.

Can you provide me some policies that you consider authoritarian that she subscribes to?

[Skarne]

Skarne Asada accuses others of being in a cult

Believes planet only has 10 years left cuz "Global Warming"

43v9SaeQif4

I’ve never discussed global warming on the board but okay clown.

[Skarne]

It's funny because I've always leaned more D most of my life but have been leaning more R lately because the AOC is promoting authoritarian policies(vax mandates, global warming mandates) and is actively harming our country with its dis and mis information (covid lies, ivermectin lies, bidens gaff corrections). They also incite violence (blm riots) Oh and add ww3, tanking our economy and censorship.


See what I mean? I genuinely feel strongly about that as I'm sure you do with your stance. We both choose to believe who we want to believe.

So you’re leaning to the Republican side because of the opinions of a single congresswoman?

I’m talking about over 75% of the GOP advocating for fascism and repeating bold faced lies to its base. People who commit violence and actively attempt to subvert our elections all while pointing the finger at the other side. But you’re right to believe what you want.

[suptoofs]

lol dude

The pipe bomb story was a hoax

Hope that helps

You seem be laboring under the delusion that anything outside the narrow scope of what you consider truth is a "hoax".

Regardless of your opinion, it looks pipe bombs were indeed placed on 1/5/22. By whom? I haven't the foggiest.

https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/capitol-violence

I am sure I will get some half-witted bellend response; time will tell.

[unsunghero]

Did NY prosecute the MMA fighter for assault and battery? They seem to like to do shit like that https://nypost.com/2022/07/06/nyc-bodega-worker-jose-alba-charged-in-fatal-stabbing-feared-for-his-life-family-says/?fbclid=IwAR1tuohcgS-ojS80b0wZtWf6n0PtcI9-jp4FlQUdBdRr3UgjlptJj8BSeao (charges were eventually dropped but wtf).

Naw, the dude is an absolute champion

Not only did he get the attacker down and restrained without hurting him (I would always prefer to lose a fight to a wrestler/BJJ expert than anyone else, in terms of my injuries sustained), but he also stopped the people who had pointed the guy out to him, the people who had been punched by the guy, from hitting him when he was down as retaliation. They started to do that and he stopped them and said let the police deal with it

Dude should get a medal


Edit: oh yea I heard about that stabbing in self defense murder charge. Absolutely bonkers, some DA’s love criminals more than citizens

[Jibartik]

You're either in trumps cult , the establishments cult, or the outsiders cult.

Cause no matter what cult you choose to side with you're still gobbling up their narrative second hand and regurgitating it as facts and knowledge.

The world is in a death cult.

Mutually assured destruction.

"If you leave me we'll kill all of you and ourselves!"

That's a death cult! lol

[Reiwa]

Genuinely curious what authoritarian policies the Republicans are promoting? You talking abortion with the roe vs wade shit? That one I can kinda agree with you on if so even tho I'm against abortion personally. Government shouldn't be involved.

Roe v Wade was very authoritarian in that the 1973 ruling ordered the federal government to restrict the states(Constitutionally - "the People") from making laws against it.

Yes my rectangle has made me retarded, why do you ask?

[Evia]

So you’re leaning to the Republican side because of the opinions of a single congresswoman?

I’m talking about over 75% of the GOP advocating for fascism and repeating bold faced lies to its base. People who commit violence and actively attempt to subvert our elections all while pointing the finger at the other side. But you’re right to believe what you want.

My mistake. I was under the impression gop was republican and aoc is Democrat. Looks like aoc just happens to be a congresswoman that's hardcore dem.

75% you think? What fascism policies and beliefs are they about that concern you? What lies are they spreading that concern you? Because the only fascists or liars that I see are dems trying to strip our American rights and freedoms away under the guise of "safety". There hasn't been any policies, outside of the abortion stance, that Republicans seem to promote or back that come across as fascist to me. Or even violent.

[Skarne]

My mistake. I was under the impression gop was republican and aoc is Democrat. Looks like aoc just happens to be a congresswoman that's hardcore dem.

75% you think? What fascism policies and beliefs are they about that concern you? Genuinely curious. Because the only fascists that I see are dems trying to strip our American rights and freedoms away. There hasn't been any policies, outside of the abortion stance, that Republicans seem to promote or back that come across as fascist to me. Or even violent.


https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html

Have you not seen all the attacks and threats against the FBI all because someone they like was presented with a legal search warrant? How about the mass shootings with the shooters regurgitating the same talking points that are pushed on Fox News? What do you call Jan 6th? Non violent? People died and cops were beaten. They lie and spin the truth constantly. They vote no on things that would help Americans just to stick it to the democrats. Their leader takes top secret documents and keeps them on his estate unsecured where he has a Saudi backed golf tournament the same month…his cronies download voting machine servers in a coordinated and organized effort…there are so many things. And the link above describes the party to a T.

They are also trying to erode the separation of church and state which is a huge deal to me. Christians aren’t the only people in America…whatever happened to the land of opportunity?

[Reiwa]

https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html

Have you not seen all the attacks and threats against the FBI all because someone they like was presented with a legal search warrant? How about the mass shootings with the shooters regurgitating the same talking points that are pushed on Fox News? What do you call Jan 6th? Non violent? People died and cops were beaten. They lie and spin the truth constantly. They vote no on things that would help Americans just to stick it to the democrats. Their leader takes top secret documents and keeps them on his estate unsecured where he has a Saudi backed golf tournament the same month…his cronies download voting machine servers in a coordinated and organized effort…there are so many things. And the link above describes the party to a T.

They are also trying to erode the separation of church and state which is a huge deal to me. Christians aren’t the only people in America…whatever happened to the land of opportunity?

Fascism is explicitly an atheistic (Nietzschean "God is dead") ideology. Same with commienism.

[suptoofs]

75% you think? What fascism policies and beliefs are they about that concern you? What lies are they spreading that concern you? Because the only fascists or liars that I see are dems trying to strip our American rights and freedoms away under the guise of "safety". There hasn't been any policies, outside of the abortion stance, that Republicans seem to promote or back that come across as fascist to me. Or even violent.

Is this parody?

[Botten]

My mistake. I was under the impression gop was republican and aoc is Democrat. Looks like aoc just happens to be a congresswoman that's hardcore dem.

75% you think? What fascism policies and beliefs are they about that concern you? What lies are they spreading that concern you? Because the only fascists or liars that I see are dems trying to strip our American rights and freedoms away under the guise of "safety". There hasn't been any policies, outside of the abortion stance, that Republicans seem to promote or back that come across as fascist to me. Or even violent.

Republicans don't want Trans to have the same rights
If it was up to republicans marriage between gays wouldn't be allowed
Republicans want to get rid of separation of church and state
States can't decide whether guns can be restricted in most public locations but can restrict abortions
Progression generally scare republicans.

list goes on and on and on

Popular vote says democrats are doing the right thing.

[Skarne]

Fascism is explicitly an atheistic (Nietzschean "God is dead") ideology. Same with commienism.

That’s just not true. Hitler referenced his Catholicism in his speeches. Same with Mussolini. Religion is an identifying factor for these people so they can group others into the “undesirable” category. You’d better hope you pick the right religion when fascism comes to a toys r us near you.

[unsunghero]

https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html

Have you not seen all the attacks and threats against the FBI all because someone they like was presented with a legal search warrant? ?

These arguments really can’t go anywhere because if the premise is that something negative being said against an entity can result in violence towards that entity, than the only solution is to allow nothing negative to be said about any entity ever

Because for years news has been saying negative things about the police, and there have been actual ambushes and assassinations of police officers. Now I left off “as a result” because that’s a more difficult link to prove. But did all the negative publicity and demonizing play a role? Perhaps

Not to sound like a broken record but I don’t see how any negative speech towards any person, political party, organization, etc can be allowed if the premise is that it could cause a crazy person to want to attack that entity/party/organization

Now if trump or whoever said “we need to firebomb the fbi” that’s an obvious call to violence

[unsunghero]

Here’s how I would say it, if I were a Dem:

“Do you see how this negative rhetoric about the FBI has resulted in an attack within a day of it occurring? I am not saying you shouldn’t be allowed to say it but we need to be mindful of how these statements can influence dumb and crazy political fanatics. And I acknowledge that this can and does go both ways, although I believe your side has more people willing to carry out violent attacks”

The last part isn’t my opinion but just something I expect a Dem to say ;)

[Evia]

https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html

Have you not seen all the attacks and threats against the FBI all because someone they like was presented with a legal search warrant? How about the mass shootings with the shooters regurgitating the same talking points that are pushed on Fox News? What do you call Jan 6th? Non violent? People died and cops were beaten. They lie and spin the truth constantly. They vote no on things that would help Americans just to stick it to the democrats. Their leader takes top secret documents and keeps them on his estate unsecured where he has a Saudi backed golf tournament the same monthÂ…his cronies download voting machine servers in a coordinated and organized effortÂ…there are so many things. And the link above describes the party to a T.

They are also trying to erode the separation of church and state which is a huge deal to me. Christians arenÂ’t the only people in AmericaÂ…whatever happened to the land of opportunity?

Ok thats all reasonable things to be upset about so I see where your passion is fueled! but to be fair, I think everything you just mentioned has to do with trump and Liberal biased media headlines and very little to do with the republican party themselves and their policies and motives, no? One could say that the people you're getting your information from is lying and spinning the truth constantly. Like I said you and I will believe who and what we wanna believe. So aren't we essentially both guilty of not only believing the information we read/watch but also in pointing fingers at the other party for doing a lot of the same type of things that we say we're against?

Wait a second! Could it be that we're both being played here? so we will go kill each other out in the streets defending our country from the evil bad party? Instead of having a actual discussion about things to realize maybe we have more in common with one another than we thought?

[Elizondo]

That’s just not true. Hitler referenced his Catholicism in his speeches. Same with Mussolini. Religion is an identifying factor for these people so they can group others into the “undesirable” category. You’d better hope you pick the right religion when fascism comes to a toys r us near you.

I shall never come personally to terms with the Christian lie

The only way of getting rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little

In the long run, National Socialism and religion will no longer be able to exist together

There is something very unhealthy about Christianity. As far as we are concerned, we’ve succeeded in chasing the Jews from our midst and excluding Christianity from our political life. The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity’s illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless.

Guess who

[Skarne]

Ok thats all reasonable things to be upset about so I see where your passion is fueled! but to be fair, I think everything you just mentioned has to do with trump and Liberal biased media headlines and very little to do with the republican party themselves and their policies and motives, no? One could say that the people you're getting your information from is lying and spinning the truth constantly. Like I said you and I will believe who and what we wanna believe. So aren't we essentially both guilty of not only believing the information we read/watch but also in pointing fingers at the other party for doing a lot of the same things we say we're against?

Wait a second! Could it be that we're both being played here? so we will go kill each other out in the streets defending our country from the evil bad party?

Look it’s very simple. There’s truth and lies. I believe the truth based on what I see with my own eyes. I’m not married to any single media channel and try to get all viewpoints. After that, I make my decision on what to believe. During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. Just look at all the republicans who went against tfg and his antics. None of them will be around long, eaten by their own party for telling the truth.

And to say I have the opinions I have because of liberal media bias is completely disregarding any of my opinions just because you assume I only read the liberal media. I blame the GOP because no matter what tfg does they back his plays no matter how reprehensible and possibly illegal the things he does/did is. They are all complicit, just look at Arizona’s shit show.

[unsunghero]

Interestingly enough there is now a new dictionary term (hot off the press) which unfortunately seems to be invented to only go one direction, politically, which describes what many people here are talking about

I think it’s ridiculous, and I certainly don’t want the Right to be using it as censorship weapon either

I think just having a little common sense could go a long way towards inciting violence with negative rhetoric, and I have an easy solution: pretend whoever you are negatively speaking about is also part of your own political party and your friend. This way you will still get the negative statement out, but will feel obliged by tribalism to ALSO offer one positive thing about them or one thing you do like about them

Problem solved. Make me President, I can fix all this shit

[Skarne]

Guess who

"We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity ... in fact our movement is Christian."

Guess who? This is how fascism always starts. A cross wrapped in a flag.

[Reiwa]

"We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity ... in fact our movement is Christian."

Guess who? This is how fascism always starts. A cross wrapped in a flag.

It's true that Hitler said this in 1928. (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hitler-our-movement-is-christian/)

The original quote was slightly longer than what has appeared in memes. At the same time, history showed that Hitler's National Socialist Movement later sought to destroy Christianity once in power. Citing evidence from the Nuremberg war-crime trials, The New York Times reported that, "the Nazis simply lied and made deals with the churches while planning a 'slow and cautious policy of gradual encroachment' to eliminate Christianity."

[Skarne]

It's true that Hitler said this in 1928. (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hitler-our-movement-is-christian/)

Exactly. That’s how fascism begins until they can reign it in, where the government basically becomes that country’s religion.

[Horza]

Trump’s lawyer says the DOJ might as well just tell them who the informant is now, because they are going to find out who it is soon anyway. (https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1559610796677767168)

lol

[Reiwa]

Exactly. That’s how fascism begins until they can reign it in, where the government basically becomes that country’s religion.

You're pretty close to getting it if you can drop your animus to religion at some point. :p

The state is the beast you know!

[MrSparkle001]

It's true that Hitler said this in 1928. (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hitler-our-movement-is-christian/)

It's almost like Hitler couldn't be trusted.

https://www.history.com/.image/ar_16:9%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cg_fa ces:center%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_768/MTU3OTIzNjYwOTQyNTUwNjc0/chamberlain-declares-peace-for-our-time-75-years-agos-featured-photo.jpg

[Skarne]

You're pretty close to getting it if you can drop your animus to religion at some point. :p

The state is the beast you know!

I disagree. I still believe in America.

[Reiwa]

I disagree. I still believe in America.

The American state or the American people?

Like if you had to choose.

[Skarne]

The American state or the American people?

Like if you had to choose.

Both. But if I had to choose one? The American people.

[azeth]

Both. But if I had to choose one? The American people.

I choose the state. The "pursuit of happiness" exists only because of our security and stability

[Reiwa]

But if I had to choose one? The American people.

oyFQVZ2h0V8

[Horza]

I assume we're referring to a bunch of frothing evangelicals trying to lynch Pence and install an obese pedophile as president for life when we all say the American people.

[Elizondo]

"We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity ... in fact our movement is Christian."

Guess who? This is how fascism always starts. A cross wrapped in a flag.

Dumbest post ever

I sourced you what he said in private. Not a political speech. Obama said he would stop the rise of the oceans and heal the planet. Is he a wizard?

Politicians say a lot of things in front of crowds. What they say in private is who they really are.

Hope that helps

[Skarne]

Dumbest post ever

I sourced you what he said in private. Not a political speech. Obama said he would stop the rise of the oceans and heal the planet. Is he a wizard?

Politicians say a lot of things in front of crowds. What they say in private is who they really are.

Hope that helps

It was a speech… On October 27, 1928 in Passau, Hitler said in a speech: “We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity … in fact our movement is Christian”.

Before the nazi party took total power and was garnering support. What does Obama have to do with anything? I’m sorry you can’t handle the truth, hope this helps.

[Skarne]

Dumbest post ever

I sourced you what he said in private. Not a political speech. Obama said he would stop the rise of the oceans and heal the planet. Is he a wizard?

Politicians say a lot of things in front of crowds. What they say in private is who they really are.

Hope that helps

Also, based on that logic, look at what trump says about his followers in private. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-secretly-mocks-his-christian-supporters/616522/

Yet you still follow and eat out of his hand. I know you’ll just say the article is a hoax or whatever new buzzword you guys like to use, but you’re just a hypocrite man. And I’m guessing you probably grew up poor and religious which lead to you being a total mark. And it’s okay man, 10 years from now you’ll have someone new to look up to.

[Homesteaded]

It was a speech… On October 27, 1928 in Passau, Hitler said in a speech: “We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity … in fact our movement is Christian”.

Before the nazi party took total power and was garnering support. What does Obama have to do with anything? I’m sorry you can’t handle the truth, hope this helps.

Hitler was decidedly not Christian. People need to stop confusing mortal men who twist and contort Christianity to gain power and the actual teachings of Christianity.

[robayon]

Hitler was decidedly not Christian. People need to stop confusing mortal men who twist and contort Christianity to gain power and the actual teachings of Christianity.They sure do, poster with zero self awareness

[Skarne]

Hitler was decidedly not Christian. People need to stop confusing mortal men who twist and contort Christianity to gain power and the actual teachings of Christianity.

Rofl and you think Trump suddenly became a good christian boy when he took office? The lack of self awareness is astounding.

[Skarne]

They sure do, poster with zero self awareness

Jinx bro

[robayon]

Guess whoI remember a time when posters on this forum repeated the laughably wrong lie that fascism was fundamentally a left wing concept

And I brought up the Night of the Long Knives and you guys didn’t even know what the hell it was

Anyways, nice to see you guys sticking to the “all of my current positions are invalidated by my past and future positions” system. Talk about unreliable narrarators

[Elizondo]

I remember a time when posters on this forum repeated the laughably wrong lie that fascism was fundamentally a left wing concept

And I brought up the Night of the Long Knives and you guys didn’t even know what the hell it was

Anyways, nice to see you guys sticking to the “all of my current positions are invalidated by my past and future positions” system. Talk about unreliable narrarators

Fascism is left wing

No doubt

[Elizondo]

It was a speech… On October 27, 1928 in Passau, Hitler said in a speech: “We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity … in fact our movement is Christian”.

Before the nazi party took total power and was garnering support. What does Obama have to do with anything? I’m sorry you can’t handle the truth, hope this helps.

Yea a speech

From a politician trying to get votes

He said the exact opposite in private which is who he really was

Thank you for proving me point. Appreciate it.

[Skarne]

Yea a speech

From a politician trying to get votes

He said the exact opposite in private which is who he really was

Thank you for proving me point. Appreciate it.

So did your big orange daddy. So what does that say about you?

[robayon]

Fascism is left wing

No doubtDoes that make Bolshevism right wing?

Take these important “up is down” style revelations to any historian and see how much traction you get

[Reiwa]

Does that make Bolshevism right wing?

Take these important “up is down” style revelations to any historian and see how much traction you get

Bolshevism is republicanism.

[robayon]

Bolshevism is republican.In the American sense? Remember, the parties flipped at some nebulous point in the past, keep it all balanced!

[Reiwa]

In the American sense? Remember, the parties flipped at some nebulous point in the past, keep it all balanced!

Small r. 🙃

[robayon]

Small r. 🙃I'm no Bolshevisk, no skin in this game. The imporant distinction: is fascism fundamentally left wing?

Let's flush out the D'Souza fans ITT, it makes for better posting

[Jibartik]

Hitler was decidedly not Christian. People need to stop confusing mortal men who twist and contort Christianity to gain power and the actual teachings of Christianity.

He was.... catholic! https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/vatican-documents-show-secret-back-channel-between-pope-pius-xii-and-adolph-hitler

[robayon]

He was.... catholic! https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/vatican-documents-show-secret-back-channel-between-pope-pius-xii-and-adolph-hitlerBritish Royals had one too IIRC =)

I'm sure modern American catholics are largely reasonable folks. Just like the modern American christian conservative wouldn't adopt neofascism.

[Kaveh]

Hitler was decidedly not Christian. People need to stop confusing mortal men who twist and contort Christianity to gain power and the actual teachings of Christianity.

Hitler admired Islam and didn’t invade Constantinople

What a pussy burning in hell. I’ll never own a Volkswagen

[booter]

the left wing is literally antifa, which is literally anti-fascist

from this, one can extrapolate...

[Reiwa]

I'm no Bolshevisk, no skin in this game. The imporant distinction: is fascism fundamentally left wing?

Let's flush out the D'Souza fans ITT, it makes for better posting

But are you a republican? 🤔

[robayon]

But are you a republican? 🤔Only insofar as hating the government for very specific things but liking it for other specific things, but then later claiming I hate all government

I have that in common with these fellas

[Danth]

the left wing is literally antifa, which is literally anti-fascist

from this, one can extrapolate...

Not as easily as you might think. Socially--sure. However, fascist economic policy does tend to incorporate at least some ideas that usually appeal to the political left. I've played that game with liberal friends before. Thing is, fascism can't really be separated from its hard-right nationalist social policy, so it remains classified as part of the political right, just a distinct version of "right" all its own, much separate from U.S.-style "vampiric capitalism."

Any good communist has to be a republican (but not a Republican) by nature....they're supposed to detest all monarchs and royalty. It's a sick joke that all their own nations end up authoritarian governments with their own defacto royals-in-all-but-name.

[Elizondo]

the left wing is literally antifa, which is literally anti-fascist

from this, one can extrapolate...

Antifa are Fascists pretending to be Anti Fascists

Hope that helps

[Elizondo]

Does that make Bolshevism right wing?

Take these important “up is down” style revelations to any historian and see how much traction you get

What authority are you appealing to?

You're aware the Germany didn't invent Fascism right?

[unsunghero]

Antifa are Fascists pretending to be Anti Fascists

Hope that helps

As can be seen by their tactics

Let’s assume all GOP are literal nazi’s, pedo’s, Satan-worshippers, etc, just the worst kind of people you can think of

If they choose to protest somewhere, it is still illegal to come attack them with sticks and umbrellas and bear mace and whatever ever weird makeshift weapons they bring to do so. They can be scum of the earth, still illegal to shut their protests down with violence and/or intimidation

When a political party shuts down opposing protests via violence and intimidation, I’ve heard has been done before historically with the Nazi brown shirts, which honestly I don’t know much about. But what I did read about was Russia’s Cossacks. These were citizens who would dress up like military, show up to any protest against the state, and just beat the living shit out of the protestors

[Ooloo]

antifa use the age-old anti-fascist technique of smashing people in the head with bike locks rather than even attempting any kind of dialogue (aka diplomacy)

"if you restrict abortion even remotely you will not be safe" -your friendly neighborhood anti-fascists!

[unsunghero]

antifa use the age-old anti-fascist technique of smashing people in the head with bike locks rather than even attempting any kind of dialogue (aka diplomacy)

"if you restrict abortion even remotely you will not be safe" -your friendly neighborhood anti-fascists!

And their justification is “they do it too, so we fight fire with fire” and/or “the end justifies the means”

This is a juvenile mindset, because basically it can only result in things getting out of control. The last time I encountered it was high school, when there was drama about my gf and her ex or my friends and their ex-gf’s. You would hear so-and-so keyed someone’s car, so now we need to. So and so wants to fight you. Me: Ok. My friend, later: They’re going to bring their friends, so you better bring me and your friends. Me: Ok. My friend: oh I just found out they’re bringing weapons, so we should bring whatever knives and bats we can get. My friend: I can get my gun. Me: So what, we are all just going to kill each other now? What the fuck are we talking about here?

[Horza]

Making antifascism out to be the boogeyman of the American right is almost as retarded as having the Defund the FBI-types be the mouthpiece of your party.

[Reiwa]

Shame on MTP for not streaming tonight's primaries.

[Botten]

Trump-backed candidate jokingly mixes 'banana republic' with clothing store (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/watch-trump-backed-candidate-jokingly-mixes-banana-republic-with-clothing-store/ar-AA10JMr7)

"A lot of people have likened the situation that’s going on right now is, you know, they say we’re in a Banana Republic. I think that’s an insult to Banana Republics across the country. I mean, at least the manager of Banana Republic, unlike our president, knows where he is and why he’s there and what he’s doing," Hines said.

GOP’s best and brightest. A Trump backed uneducated moron.

[Elizondo]

GOP’s best and brightest. A Trump backed uneducated moron.

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[Elizondo]

BUH BYE!

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[Domo]

Just seen this old but gold clip of Alex Jones at the BBC (https://youtu.be/Ch9gQ9JOe3Y) :D

[Reiwa]

BUH BYE!
https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=18438&d=1660701518


Turns out water is wet and the stove is indeed hot.

[unsunghero]

Turns out water is wet and the stove is indeed hot.

I almost want Biden to win just to see if in the next 4 years he secretly dies and his handlers continue to walk him around giving speeches like we’re in Weekend at Bernie’s

[Elizondo]

Turns out water is wet and the stove is indeed hot.

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[Horza]

I'd rather have a Weekend at Bernie’s president than Jared back in charge of pandemic readiness, Middle East peace, and the opiate crisis.

[Jibartik]

Just seen this old but gold clip of Alex Jones at the BBC (https://youtu.be/Ch9gQ9JOe3Y) :D

Haha yeah that's a great one! Everything he said in this one turned out to be true. :o

[Homesteaded]

Rofl and you think Trump suddenly became a good christian boy when he took office? The lack of self awareness is astounding.

I said this? Who said this? Your imagination is my guess.

[robayon]

I said this? Who said this? Your imagination is my guess.Now I know what vibe you give me, it's this guy.

https://mediadc.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/4976840/2147483647/strip/true/crop/2290x1202+0+0/resize/1200x630!/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmediadc-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F7a%2Fd0%2F0c05a56740 878520e4f03e839b74%2F060419-kenneth-copeland.jpg

[Wrekt]

Fascism is left wing

No doubt

troll or really fucking dumb? Please answer. Thanks.

[Wrekt]

As can be seen by their tactics

Let’s assume all GOP are literal nazi’s, pedo’s, Satan-worshippers, etc, just the worst kind of people you can think of

If they choose to protest somewhere, it is still illegal to come attack them with sticks and umbrellas and bear mace and whatever ever weird makeshift weapons they bring to do so. They can be scum of the earth, still illegal to shut their protests down with violence and/or intimidation

When a political party shuts down opposing protests via violence and intimidation, I’ve heard has been done before historically with the Nazi brown shirts, which honestly I don’t know much about. But what I did read about was Russia’s Cossacks. These were citizens who would dress up like military, show up to any protest against the state, and just beat the living shit out of the protestors

you are not familiar with the paradox of tolerance. Read up, idiot.

[Wrekt]

antifa use the age-old anti-fascist technique of smashing people in the head with bike locks rather than even attempting any kind of dialogue (aka diplomacy)

"if you restrict abortion even remotely you will not be safe" -your friendly neighborhood anti-fascists!

this is the only dialogue you can have with nazis...

[Skarne]

this is the only dialogue you can have with nazis...

And it all stems from mediocrity. I understand why they’re so upset.

[robayon]

Reading, watching documentaries, listening to fact based podcasts, taking history classes, talking to subject matter experts... if right-wing people do these things, they soon cease being right-wing people. This is why they don't do those things.

A bottomless pit of ignorance or an everflowing fountain of entertainment? Depends on your perspective & mood

[robayon]

this is the only dialogue you can have with nazis...As usual, they miss the entire point of the entire anti-fascist movement. When these guys talk about antifa you can see it doing exactly what it is intended to do: keep the fence-sitters on the fence.

[Reiwa]

Reading, watching documentaries, listening to fact based podcasts, taking history classes, talking to subject matter experts... if right-wing people do these things, they soon cease being right-wing people. This is why they don't do those things.

A bottomless pit of ignorance or an everflowing fountain of entertainment? Depends on your perspective & mood

HRE can be bad w/o being Nazis.

[robayon]

HRE can be bad w/o being Nazis.The Holy Roman Empire?

Just tell me what to google to decode this reference please, applying modern political concepts to things before like World War 1 gets dicey fast

[Reiwa]

The Holy Roman Empire?

Just tell me what to google to decode this reference please, applying modern political concepts to things before like World War 1 gets dicey fast

Idk I want to learn too. That's just what they beamed over.

[Botten]

Liz Cheney says she's 'thinking about' running for president in 2024 and she'll do 'whatever it takes' to keep Trump from office (https://www.businessinsider.com/liz-cheney-thinking-about-2024-presidential-run-stop-Trump-2022-8)

Do it! In fact run independent!

https://i.imgur.com/oBpmlN1.gif?noredirect

[azeth]

I'd vote for Liz Cheney over Biden

[MrSparkle001]

Liz Cheney says she's 'thinking about' running for president in 2024 and she'll do 'whatever it takes' to keep Trump from office (https://www.businessinsider.com/liz-cheney-thinking-about-2024-presidential-run-stop-Trump-2022-8)

Do it! In fact run independent!

https://i.imgur.com/oBpmlN1.gif?noredirect

Lol and the independents/centrists that don't like Trump but don't want to give Biden a second term vote for her and steal votes from Biden.

She's not going to peel votes away from Trump. That base is too loyal.

I don't even see Trump getting the nomination. It will be DeSantis or maybe Romney if he's interested.

[Homesteaded]

Reading, watching documentaries, listening to fact based podcasts, taking history classes, talking to subject matter experts... if right-wing people do these things, they soon cease being right-wing people. This is why they don't do those things.

A bottomless pit of ignorance or an everflowing fountain of entertainment? Depends on your perspective & mood

The Left truly believes this. This is your biggest issue. You think you hold all of the moral high ground. Meanwhile you advocate killing babies. See how that's confusing?

[Elizondo]

Hilarious and ironic that Dims are coping and seething cuz their hero Liz Cheney lost so badly

[robayon]

The Left truly believes this. This is your biggest issue. You think you hold all of the moral high ground. Meanwhile you advocate killing babies. See how that's confusing?Nope, because you advocate killing babies too, buddy.

Hilarious and ironic that Dims are coping and seething cuz their hero Liz Cheney lost so badlyI love this narrative, keep at it. I don't think that woman is anyone's hero. Stop rage watching CNN all day.

[Homesteaded]

Nope, because you advocate killing babies too, buddy.

Certainly don't, try again.

[robayon]

Certainly don't, try again.You do, you just veil it in support for the big government, the military-industrial complex, and capitalism itself. Thankfully, God sees through your self-deception. And you know it.

[robayon]

Seriously, do a better job at hiding your blatant hypocrisy. It's not that I am any good at finding it, it is that you are that bad at hiding it.

And stop the blasphemy, please.

[Homesteaded]

You do, you just veil it in support for the big government, the military-industrial complex, and capitalism itself. Thankfully, God sees through your self-deception. And you know it.

Says the guy benefitting from all of these evil systems. You're a fraud.

[robayon]

Says the guy benefitting from all of these evil systems. You're a fraud.Bruh I am a mirror. Nice to see you correctly called capitalism evil, though

https://i.imgur.com/4L5EZ7O.png

[Homesteaded]

Bruh I am a mirror. Nice to see you correctly called capitalism evil, though

https://i.imgur.com/4L5EZ7O.png

I'm all for improving society. Drag Queens in front of elementary kids, boys are girls, girls are boys. Redefining Inflation. Killing babies. Destroying gender roles. Destroying the family structure. Demonizing the teachings of Jesus. Complete erosion of trust in the established media. The list goes on and on and none of them are improving anything.

I'm all for thoughtful and SLOW improvement. Jumping ahead to claim the new ground on improvement only leads to folly. Good luck out there.

[Jibartik]

the military-industrial complex

No. The left isnt allowed to pretend they are not the key master to this one anymore.

[Jibartik]

Seriously, do a better job at hiding your blatant hypocrisy. It's not that I am any good at finding it, it is that you are that bad at hiding it.

And stop the blasphemy, please.

I find politics ironic.

like, roby cant bring himself to support conservatives.

I cant bring myself to support democrats.

We both cant bring ourselves to support these groups, for the exact. same. reasons.

The difference is, Im like, I see the democrats were lying to us! They said they would help the people but they only helped themselves!

Roby is like, dont you see the republican's are lying to you! They say they will help the people, but they will only help themselves!

And this is the circle of life.

Back and forth, forever.

:o

[robayon]

I'm all for improving society. Drag Queens in front of elementary kids, boys are girls, girls are boys. Redefining Inflation. Killing babies. Destroying gender roles. Destroying the family structure. Demonizing the teachings of Jesus. Complete erosion of trust in the established media. The list goes on and on and none of them are improving anything.

I'm all for thoughtful and SLOW improvement. Jumping ahead to claim the new ground on improvement only leads to folly. Good luck out there.Setting aside my personal animus against you, what does thoughtful and slow improvement look like to you?

No. The left isnt allowed to pretend they are not the key master to this one anymore.Don't worry. This circle gets squared thusly: the Democrats aren't Leftists, there are no Leftist politicians in America that hold any national offices.

[Jibartik]

But then why support the democrats who IMO are more evil, because they are taking the space the left would take up. The republicans didn't get rid of the left, the left did!

[Reiwa]

Communism is the perfect system to solve our food waste problem.

[robayon]

I find politics ironic.

like, roby cant bring himself to support conservatives.

I cant bring myself to support democrats.

We both cant bring ourselves to support these groups, for the exact. same. reasons.

The difference is, Im like, I see the democrats were lying to us! They said they would help the people but they only helped themselves!

Roby is like, dont you see the republican's are lying to you! They say they will help the people, but they will only help themselves!

And this is the circle of life.

Back and forth, forever.

:oKGmXGkIr7w0

[unsunghero]

you are not familiar with the paradox of tolerance. Read up, idiot.

Does this theory make it legal to intimidate or attack protestors who were themselves peaceful at the time?

Like mob justice? These are bad people promoting bad ideas so we get to attack them with sticks and bear mace? This is “progress”? Sounds primitive to me

[Jibartik]

KGmXGkIr7w0

The first time I thought, holy shit they are lying to us.

Is when Obama made his cabinet entirely out of bankers, and then subsequently bailed out the banks.

I held onto that hope for another 7 or 8 years though.

Sad. To just take an entire generation, and to mentally ass rape them like that.

But you're right his VP is probably trying to curb the inflation that started after his bold new plans on energy and brute force diplomacy.

Keep the hope alive!

[Elizondo]

I'm all for improving society. Drag Queens in front of elementary kids, boys are girls, girls are boys. Redefining Inflation. Killing babies. Destroying gender roles. Destroying the family structure. Demonizing the teachings of Jesus. Complete erosion of trust in the established media. The list goes on and on and none of them are improving anything.

I'm all for thoughtful and SLOW improvement. Jumping ahead to claim the new ground on improvement only leads to folly. Good luck out there.

The road to Hell is paved with good intentions

[robayon]

But then why support the democrats who IMO are more evil, because they are taking the space the left would take up. The republicans didn't get rid of the left, the left did!My support is limited and coerced. I'd have voted for Bernie if he hadn't been screwed by the DNC again. And even that would not have been enough, and no, he wouldn't have passed anything through congress.

Also, stomping out actual Leftists from holding power in national offices is kinda baked into the crust in American politics. There's a reason there's no labor party here. On this type of issue the Democrats and Republicans have always agreed, at least since the civil war era.

Even if none of that was true, believe me, the infighting on the Left would do a great job of fracturing it without any intervention from outsiders regardless of their affiliations.

This is also why I'd be on board with more of a parliament style system if I had the option. Forcing these fractious goobers to form coalitions to do things in government.

Assuming I can't have the post-scarcity anarcho-communism, that is, but that's something I always figured I wouldn't live to see either way

[Reiwa]

KGmXGkIr7w0

https://i.imgur.com/N71aiez.jpg

[Jibartik]

This is also why I'd be on board with more of a parliament style system if I had the option. Forcing these fractious goobers to form coalitions to do things in government.

Idk how they work but it looks like they have insurrections every day in their parliamentary buildings :D

[robayon]

https://i.imgur.com/N71aiez.jpgHehe. Now I have to listen to some Leonard Cohen, which means I have to wear headphones

"Too drippy" she says

[robayon]

Idk how they work but it looks like they have insurrections every day in their parliamentary buildings :DI would be delighted to see actual fistfights break out on C-SPAN, at least that means those old fogeys might believe in the crap they're shilling

It's hard to do doublespeak with your fists, unless you're a professional athlete I guess

[Jibartik]

Yeah I agree. Especially with laurin bobbits.

[Danth]

Like mob justice? These are bad people promoting bad ideas so we get to attack them with sticks and bear mace? This is “progress”? Sounds primitive to me

Primitive or not, sometimes it works. Being righteous does the pacifist little good when he's laying on the ground in a heap underneath the people who aren't pacifists.

[Jibartik]

Oh so I heard Liz McCarthy lost her election yesterday.

[unsunghero]

Primitive or not, sometimes it works. Being righteous does the pacifist little good when he's laying on the ground in a heap underneath the people who aren't pacifists.

Oh I am not arguing against it’s efficacy. But as soon as people are bringing weapons to protests that’s simply the beginning of civil war

If this is what everyone wants I’m still going to be leaning on the right winning that one. Once it’s understood protests are going to be a violent life or death fight, the right has more guns and are better with them

[Ooloo]

Seriously, do a better job at hiding your blatant hypocrisy. It's not that I am any good at finding it, it is that you are that bad at hiding it.

And stop the blasphemy, please.

Rob this charge is completely stupid, as always. It's also a classic logical fallacy; the appeal to hypocrisy.

It doesn't matter if somebody is being 1000% hypocritical, it has nothing to do with the truth or falsehood of their claim (in this case: that killing perfectly healthy babies completely on purpose as in the case of abortion is bad). If a convicted murderer says "murder is wrong", screaming hypocrite at him doesn't mean that murder isn't wrong.

It's logically incoherent to try to suggest that because sometimes kids are killed by accident in war, or via some byproduct of capitalist greed, we should therefor kill MORE kids, who absolutely don't need to be killed, in abortions? That just doesn't follow at all from A to B.

[robayon]

Rob this charge is completely stupid, as always. It's also a classic logical fallacy; the appeal to hypocrisy.

It doesn't matter if somebody is being 1000% hypocritical, it has nothing to do with the truth or falsehood of their claim (in this case: that killing perfectly healthy babies completely on purpose as in the case of abortion is bad). If a convicted murderer says "murder is wrong", screaming hypocrite at him doesn't mean that murder isn't wrong.

It's logically incoherent to try to suggest that because sometimes kids are killed by accident in war, or via some byproduct of capitalist greed, we should therefor kill MORE kids, who absolutely don't need to be killed, in abortions? That just doesn't follow at all from A to B.That's because you're interpreting my statements wrong and making a litany of assumptions based on other positions you think I have. You do this.

I've never been pro-abortion. I'm pro-freedom. If we took steps to address other issues that conservatives aren't willing to address, the end result would be fewer abortions, ideally none that aren't medically necessary. And fewer dead babies due to whatever war we're referring to.

But you guys don't want to talk about those steps, because they resemble disarming the police and reducing the size of the military. They resemble green energy initiatives, and laws that increase equity.

[unsunghero]

But you guys don't want to talk about those steps, because they resemble disarming the police and reducing the size of the military. They resemble green energy initiatives, and laws that increase equity.

While it is true that very affluent people tend to have less kids than poor, I don’t think that improving everyone’s economic status is going to do much about conception rates

The big problem here is that sex feels really good. And people are going to do what feels good and dumb people especially aren’t going to consider the consequences of that. The only real initiative I see of lowering conception rates is encouraging to the point of forcing contraception on everyone. Or else really pushing the hormone medications since messing with hormones is a sure-fire way to fuck up someone’s libido, which is why so many steroid users have problems with impotency

[Reiwa]

equity.

https://i.imgur.com/8pp7gi2.jpg

[robayon]

While it is true that very affluent people tend to have less kids than poor, I don’t think that improving everyone’s economic status is going to do much about conception rates

The big problem here is that sex feels really good. And people are going to do what feels good and dumb people especially aren’t going to consider the consequences of that. The only real initiative I see of lowering conception rates is encouraging to the point of forcing contraception on everyone. Or else really pushing the hormone medications since messing with hormones is a sure-fire way to fuck up someone’s libido, which is why so many steroid users have problems with impotencyThis slippery argument can also be applied to a pro-choice position :rolleyes:

You really think putting teenage girls behind bars is gonna make birth rates fall? You really think America needs more people incarcerated? Because that's what your party intends to do, regardless of what anyone tells themselves. It's where this is headed.

I don't like the idea of abortion because it definitely kills a potential person, but so much of our other shit kills potential people all the time and we don't even talk about it. Just look at the pushback I get from reactionaries like Ooloo. Like a flamingo jamming its head in the sand

https://i.imgur.com/8pp7gi2.jpgYeah, resources are infinite! The mass of the Earth is infinity!

[Reiwa]

Yeah, resources are infinite! The mass of the Earth is infinity!

Seemingly?

[unsunghero]

This slippery argument can also be applied to a pro-choice position :rolleyes:

You really think putting teenage girls behind bars is gonna make birth rates fall? You really think America needs more people incarcerated? Because that's what your party intends to do, regardless of what anyone tells themselves. It's where this is headed.

I don't like the idea of abortion because it definitely kills a potential person, but so much of our other shit kills potential people all the time and we don't even talk about it. Just look at the pushback I get from reactionaries like Ooloo. Like a flamingo jamming its head in the sand

Yeah, resources are infinite! The mass of the Earth is infinity!

It’s tough, and harkens back to the lost “war on drugs”. While making drugs more difficult to get and use through policing does not stop, or even significantly slow, hard illegal drug use (though this could be a method of policing issue), throwing proverbial hands in the air and completely giving up on making it more difficult to use certainly DOES cause an increase in total use

So, like the war on drugs, having a rule of “don’t do this thing or you’ll go to jail” might only prevent like 5-10% of that thing. So yea, it might not be the best approach

I’m still personally advocating the contraceptive-pushing, and encouraging traditional values (wait for the right partner and time kinda thing) route. Another possible inadvertent method of lowering contraception rates is to keep getting more and more teens depressed, then pushing pharmacological solutions to their depression on them. SSRI’s are notorious for having a side effect of lowering sex drive, but nothing kills it like screwing with hormone medication tho

[Reiwa]

Our own right hand the chain must shiver (https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/Digitization/139583NCJRS.pdf)

[Horza]

But then why support the democrats who IMO are more evil, because they are taking the space the left would take up. The republicans didn't get rid of the left, the left did!

I think that we all get it already, paste eating retard. You really hate the Democrats and love Trump.

[Kaveh]

Oh I am not arguing against it’s efficacy. But as soon as people are bringing weapons to protests that’s simply the beginning of civil war

If this is what everyone wants I’m still going to be leaning on the right winning that one. Once it’s understood protests are going to be a violent life or death fight, the right has more guns and are better with them

Right and left are both obese dude

Who is fighting a civil war? I can murder most 20 year olds because I can run 8-10 miles. 75 lbs pack and going outside of AC is untenable to 60% of the US population under 40

Look up Brendan Fraser in the Whale

That’s the US

[Mblake1981]

Right and left are both obese dude

Who is fighting a civil war? I can murder most 20 year olds because I can run 8-10 miles. 75 lbs pack and going outside of AC is untenable to 60% of the US population under 40

Look up Brendan Fraser in the Whale

That’s the US

Hes Canadian. The American would just shoot your legs out since we are talking fantasy football.

Really glad the US is so comfy that a civil war can't take place. Imagine being so decrepit that you actively hope that a place where the people are happy will not be so they will tear it apart, and for nothing.

[azeth]

Just a dose of reality for you civil war fanatics, 2000 or even 50,000 AR-15 armed psychopaths would not win to war

[Reiwa]

Hes Canadian. The American would just shoot your legs out since we are talking fantasy football.

Really glad the US is so comfy that a civil war can't take place. Imagine being so decrepit that you actively hope that a place where the people are happy will not be so they will tear it apart, and for nothing.

Depraved?

[Mblake1981]

Just a dose of reality for you civil war fanatics, 2000 or even 50,000 AR-15 armed psychopaths would not win to war

4chan and morons have a history of this.

[Danth]

Just a dose of reality for you civil war fanatics, 2000 or even 50,000 AR-15 armed psychopaths would not win to war

No, it'd take more, vastly more, and even then probably requires the U.S. military to fracture or stand aside. The term "bloodbath" comes to mind. The civil war fanatics are probably wisest hoping for some sort of relatively peaceful resolution to the current issues.

[robayon]

I typically assume that most folks who are advocating for actual civil war are not southerners. The conservatives on this board appear to be afraid of that large segment of their own party. I think that the only real advocates for civil war are media organizations.

[Elizondo]

Just a dose of reality for you civil war fanatics, 2000 or even 50,000 AR-15 armed psychopaths would not win to war

Bro Trump's got nukes under his house

MSM said so

[Mblake1981]

Bro Trump's got nukes under his house

MSM said so

Ground Zero

https://i.imgur.com/E3QOCAB.jpg

[Jibartik]

Ground Zero

https://i.imgur.com/E3QOCAB.jpg

lol no arrests

https://i.imgur.com/lCAloPy.png

[Botten]

Bro Trump's got nukes under his house

MSM said so

Schrodinger's Treason:

When you didn't take,
accidentally took,
innocently used,
declassified and then took,
took and then declassified,
the documents that you never took
and were illicitly planted in your house by the FBI

Ha!

All Simultaneously!

MAGA now = Tea Party RIP

[Elizondo]

Schrodinger's Treason:

When you didn't take,
accidentally took,
innocently used,
declassified and then took,
took and then declassified,
the documents that you never took
and were illicitly planted in your house by the FBI

Ha!

All Simultaneously!

MAGA now = Tea Party RIP

lol Brownshirt Botten still thinks Biden's Gestapo raid was about a document dispute

Comedy ensues

[Reiwa]

Schrodinger's Treason:

When you didn't take,
accidentally took,
innocently used,
declassified and then took,
took and then declassified,
the documents that you never took
and were illicitly planted in your house by the FBI

Ha!

All Simultaneously!

MAGA now = Tea Party RIP

I wonder if the PRA is malarkey. 🤔

[Ooloo]

Somebody please state in one concise, simple sentence the most mega-bad thing trump has ever done!

Please, just for my own enjoyment.

[Elizondo]

I wonder if the PRA is malarkey. 🤔

The President is literally his own branch of Government (as outlined in The Constitution) who has the ultimate authority to classify and declassify whatever he wants

Some statute or regulation put in place 100+ years after The Constitution was written does not apply to him or exceed his authority as outlined in said Constitution

Groomers like Botten just chasin Dim narratives spewed by their propaganda media like a dog chasin it's tail

You'd think they would have learned their lesson after they were duped by The Russia Hoax for 5+ years

[Homesteaded]

Walls are closing in…last domino to fall…again…

[Botten]

lol Brownshirt Botten still thinks Biden's Gestapo raid was about a document dispute

Comedy ensues

If MAGA believes Jan 6th was a 'peaceful' guided tour with capitol police.

then FBI raid on Mar-logo was a Disney parade with law enforcement.

Get out of here you failed MAGA Queen.


---
And Rei 44 U.S.C. 3501 et seq. was really just about his campaign which was also full of scandal.

[Botten]

The President is literally his own branch of Government (as outlined in The Constitution) who has the ultimate authority to classify and declassify whatever he wants

Some statute or regulation put in place 100+ years after The Constitution was written does not apply to him or exceed his authority as outlined in said Constitution

Groomers like Botten just chasin Dim narratives spewed by their propaganda media like a dog chasin it's tail

You'd think they would have learned their lesson after they were duped by The Russia Hoax for 5+ years

The Espionage Act doesn't really care if a document has been deemed classified. It makes it a crime to retain, without authorization, documents related to the national defense that could be used to harm the United States or aid a foreign adversary.

Prosecutors could argue that a document meets that act’s standard regardless of whether Trump had pronounced it unclassified shortly before leaving office.

MAGA = Tea Party RIP time to move to Dirty Sanchez

[Kaveh]

Hes Canadian. The American would just shoot your legs out since we are talking fantasy football.

Really glad the US is so comfy that a civil war can't take place. Imagine being so decrepit that you actively hope that a place where the people are happy will not be so they will tear it apart, and for nothing.

Unsung isn’t Canadian

Nah dude no one is hoping for any such thing

[Reiwa]

If MAGA believes Jan 6th was a 'peaceful' guided tour with capitol police.

then FBI raid on Mar-logo was a Disney parade with law enforcement.

Get out of here you failed MAGA Queen.


---
And Rei 44 U.S.C. 3501 et seq. was really just about his campaign which was also full of scandal.

He's going to be disqualified under the paperwork reduction act? (https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/PLAW-104publ13/html/PLAW-104publ13.htm)

[Botten]

He's going to be disqualified under the paperwork reduction act? (https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/PLAW-104publ13/html/PLAW-104publ13.htm)

Nah, but chance from leader of the house. We already discussed this.

[Reiwa]

Nah, but chance from leader of the house. We already discussed this.

?

Do you mean 2071?

The Volokh Conspiracy: 2071

18 U.S.C. § 2071 Cannot Disqualify Trump From The Presidency

Under Powell v. McCormack and U.S. Term Limits v. Thornton, Congress and the states cannot "add to the express textual qualifications for House and Senate seats in Article I."


the Constitution sets eligibility criteria for who can be president, and argued that Supreme Court rulings suggest Congress cannot alter it. The Constitution allows Congress to disqualify people from holding office in impeachment proceedings, but grants no such power for ordinary criminal law.
(https://reason.com/volokh/2022/08/08/no-18-u-s-c-%C2%A7-2071-cannot-disqualify-trump-from-the-presidency/)

[Domo]

If MAGA believes Jan 6th was a 'peaceful' guided tour with capitol police.

then FBI raid on Mar-logo was a Disney parade with law enforcement.

Get out of here you failed MAGA Queen.



hehe. Good one.

[Elizondo]

If MAGA believes Jan 6th was a 'peaceful' guided tour with capitol police.

then FBI raid on Mar-logo was a Disney parade with law enforcement.

Get out of here you failed MAGA Queen.

lol another Botten Fail

One is unarmed citizens exercising their right to peacefully protest

The other is an authoritarian Government raiding a former President's home (now a private citizen) with guns

Brownshirt Botten comparing a Fascist Government targeting private citizens to a Disney Parade. What's next? Comparing a Concentration Camp to a Water Park?

Epic Fail

[Ooloo]

I dunno why jan 6th is such an issue for either side. Like, I think anyone who actually committed crimes, especially violent crimes on that day should be held accountable. But their punishment should roughly fit the crime. Locking up some confused grandma who wandered in and was dazzled by the spectacle of it all in solitary confinement seems a bit cruel and unusual.

The right sometimes downplays it too much, but that is far outweighed by how hyperbolic the left gets about it. No, our democracy was not even remotely in danger. It was like a handful of doofuses who actually went in, out of tens of thousands who declined to participate. The rowdy ones got booted out of the joint and everything resumed as normal, trump conceded, and there was a completely peaceful transfer of power. Moveeeee onnnnnn.

[Domo]

I hope there be a satire/parody movie named "CRIME-A-LAGO" one day.

Loaded Weapon style

https://i.imgur.com/go0RVr8.jpeg

[Kaveh]

I dunno why jan 6th is such an issue for either side. Like, I think anyone who actually committed crimes, especially violent crimes on that day should be held accountable. But their punishment should roughly fit the crime. Locking up some confused grandma who wandered in and was dazzled by the spectacle of it all in solitary confinement seems a bit cruel and unusual.

The right sometimes downplays it too much, but that is far outweighed by how hyperbolic the left gets about it. No, our democracy was not even remotely in danger. It was like a handful of doofuses who actually went in, out of tens of thousands who declined to participate. The rowdy ones got booted out of the joint and everything resumed as normal, trump conceded, and there was a completely peaceful transfer of power. Moveeeee onnnnnn.

Josh Hawley sure thought it was a big deal

[robayon]

I heard they got as close as 40 feet from Pence. And the Secret Service kept moving him around for safety.

Nah, I'm sure the Everquest forum guys know more about protecting people from mobs than the Secret Service.

[Kaveh]

Nah it’s cool man, making senators run for their lives is a hallmark of a healthy democracy

Although in Hawley’s case, judging by his run resembling my daughter’s on the soccer field when she was 9, it probably doesn’t take much. Probably a strong wind would do it

[Kaveh]

Bernie sanders tweeted INTC raised their dividend. If that’s true these guys aren’t even trying anymore

[Elizondo]

Nah it’s cool man, making senators run for their lives is a hallmark of a healthy democracy

qnL21qtGYcw

[unsunghero]

I dunno why jan 6th is such an issue for either side. Like, I think anyone who actually committed crimes, especially violent crimes on that day should be held accountable. But their punishment should roughly fit the crime. Locking up some confused grandma who wandered in and was dazzled by the spectacle of it all in solitary confinement seems a bit cruel and unusual.

The right sometimes downplays it too much, but that is far outweighed by how hyperbolic the left gets about it. No, our democracy was not even remotely in danger. It was like a handful of doofuses who actually went in, out of tens of thousands who declined to participate. The rowdy ones got booted out of the joint and everything resumed as normal, trump conceded, and there was a completely peaceful transfer of power. Moveeeee onnnnnn.

Remember that show Black Mirror, where each episode was a “what if” scenario that was also a dystopia?

Dems should try to create an episode “what if Jan 6th was successful in overthrowing the government”. That would be fun, because they would have to create a scenario where that unarmed mob somehow held the capital. Maybe Pence could get killed in it. But then they would really be hitting a roadblock on how holding that capitol for some period of time resulted in a new government being declared. Because it would have to involve either getting the entire US military support, or else somehow beating the us military

I would give Dems a few hundred million dollar budget to make that show just to see them try to figure out how the Jan 6 riot would result in a complete overthrow of government

[robayon]

That movie already exists it's called The First Purge

[unsunghero]

That movie already exists it's called The First Purge

Didn’t see it, maybe I’ll have to. Heard it wasn’t that great, that’s the one where people in masks start killing everyone?

My scenario wasn’t meant to be a mockery, I’m genuinely curious as to how it could be possible. I don’t doubt that some, if not all, of the rioters or insurrectionists had that as their goal. If I was there interviewing them, I imagine it would go something like this:

“What do you guys want?”
“To certify Trump as President!”
“Ok and how are you going to accomplish that?”
“First, we take the capital!”
“Ok, and then?”
“We hang Mike Pence!”
“Ok, and then?”
“Uhhh Trump becomes President”
“No, sorry it doesn’t work like that. What happens when capital police come and arrest you?”

So their plan, if they had one, was shit. The Dems suggest that they have come up with a hypothetical insurrection plan that could have actually worked. So what is theirs?

[Reiwa]

Didn’t see it, maybe I’ll have to. Heard it wasn’t that great, that’s the one where people in masks start killing everyone?

My scenario wasn’t meant to be a mockery, I’m genuinely curious as to how it could be possible. I don’t doubt that some, if not all, of the rioters or insurrectionists had that as their goal. If I was there interviewing them, I imagine it would go something like this:

“What do you guys want?”
“To certify Trump as President!”
“Ok and how are you going to accomplish that?”
“First, we take the capital!”
“Ok, and then?”
“We hang Mike Pence!”
“Ok, and then?”
“Uhhh Trump becomes President”
“No, sorry it doesn’t work like that. What happens when capital police come and arrest you?”

So their plan, if they had one, was shit. The Dems suggest that they have come up with a hypothetical insurrection plan that could have actually worked. So what is theirs?

tUX-frlNBJY

[robayon]

They were just dogs that caught the car that day

[unsunghero]

^
Ya some decent points, has been discussed quite a bit

But in regards to Jan 6, I bet none of those rioters even know what the electoral college is…

[Homesteaded]

Maybe these Libs believe the real world works like Civilization, get a unit in the capital tile and you now control the entire country. Hadn’t considered this angle…

[Jibartik]

I think the problem I have with politics is instead of getting rid of the broken shit, and starting new ideas to replace it, we think we need to keep all the broken shit, and keep dumping more shit on top of it until it eventually is so big that its fixed.

[Kaveh]

I think the problem I have with politics is instead of getting rid of the broken shit, and starting new ideas to replace it, we think we need to keep all the broken shit, and keep dumping more shit on top of it until it eventually is so big that its fixed.

“ While environmentalists clamor for trillions of dollars in public investment in clean energy infrastructure … we’ve made it nearly impossible to build in America. Strict regulation sounds like a good thing for the environment … Unfortunately, however, our regulatory framework goes far beyond basic protection of the environment. Take, for example, the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA), which is the environmental review process for major infrastructure projects. Introduced over half a century ago in 1970, its goal is to ensure that these kinds of projects cause minimal environmental harm.
In reality, NEPA is a labyrinthine process that severely hamstrings important infrastructure projects. On average, it takes 4.5 years and $4.2 million to complete the review process … This is a huge deterrence to potential projects that could modernize our country’s infrastructure and reduce emissions. It’s not a coincidence that NEPA is the most litigated environmental statute in the United States. Consider that 42% of all energy projects currently backlogged under NEPA are clean energy projects. Only 15% are fossil fuel projects. Yet several months ago, President Biden rolled back Trump-era reforms to NEPA that would’ve expedited the review process. Manchin recently sided with Senate Republicans to nullify the move, though it is unlikely to pass the House. We’re arbitrarily holding back clean energy projects that could reduce emissions.”

[Jibartik]

Nobody here straight up insulted anyone today. Just wanted to point that out.

[Wrekt]

Does this theory make it legal to intimidate or attack protestors who were themselves peaceful at the time?

Like mob justice? These are bad people promoting bad ideas so we get to attack them with sticks and bear mace? This is “progress”? Sounds primitive to me

ah, yes. We should allow people who think half the population shouldnt exist to spread their hate. Good idea. See how that worked in ww2 until people finally stopped hitler. Look up the paradox of tolerance and if youre not too stupid to understand, it will help you.

[Elizondo]

Nobody here straight up insulted anyone today. Just wanted to point that out.

18447

[Wrekt]

https://i.imgur.com/8pp7gi2.jpg

this meme is fucked. Capitalism should have a pile of bodies with 1 live person on top

[Wrekt]

It’s tough, and harkens back to the lost “war on drugs”. While making drugs more difficult to get and use through policing does not stop, or even significantly slow, hard illegal drug use (though this could be a method of policing issue), throwing proverbial hands in the air and completely giving up on making it more difficult to use certainly DOES cause an increase in total use

So, like the war on drugs, having a rule of “don’t do this thing or you’ll go to jail” might only prevent like 5-10% of that thing. So yea, it might not be the best approach

I’m still personally advocating the contraceptive-pushing, and encouraging traditional values (wait for the right partner and time kinda thing) route. Another possible inadvertent method of lowering contraception rates is to keep getting more and more teens depressed, then pushing pharmacological solutions to their depression on them. SSRI’s are notorious for having a side effect of lowering sex drive, but nothing kills it like screwing with hormone medication tho

now i see the problem. You have no clue about anything. The war on drugs is just a continuation of slavery. The government pumped drugs into poor, black and brown communities to finance contra and other stupid shit. Then ramped up prosecution of those people.

Drug use is not a criminal issue, its a health issue.

[unsunghero]

ah, yes. We should allow people who think half the population shouldnt exist to spread their hate. Good idea. See how that worked in ww2 until people finally stopped hitler. Look up the paradox of tolerance and if youre not too stupid to understand, it will help you.

So the GOP thinks half the country’s people shouldn’t exist?

Seems like you’re the one thinking that

Don’t forget to check in with your probation officer and take your meds. Tell your Antifa chapter I said hi

[Reiwa]

Look up the paradox of tolerance and if youre not too stupid to understand, it will help you.

In 1919, Popper became attracted by Marxism and subsequently joined the Association of Socialist School Students. He also became a member of the Social Democratic Workers' Party of Austria, which was at that time a party that fully adopted the Marxist ideology.

[Reiwa]

this meme is fucked. Capitalism should have a pile of bodies with 1 live person on top

this is plainly ridiculous

[Rethalis]

Drug use is not a criminal issue, its a health issue.

There is a good chance one will do something criminal while high on meth.

[unsunghero]

now i see the problem. You have no clue about anything. The war on drugs is just a continuation of slavery. The government pumped drugs into poor, black and brown communities to finance contra and other stupid shit. Then ramped up prosecution of those people.

Drug use is not a criminal issue, its a health issue.

Drug use can be a health issue, it can also cause criminal actions such as theft and assault as a direct result of addiction and intoxication, but not for all users

We have a right to choose not to seek treatment for “health issues” and that includes drug use. So if someone is using drugs to the point where the drug is causing them to become a danger to themselves or the community, and also don’t want any help, then the legal system has to get involved

Nowadays that is in the form of drug courts which offer either treatment or jail, it’s up to the user

That’s about as good as it’s going to get here in America. I know you can point at different EU countries with entirely different cultures that also don’t share a border with the biggest distributer of drugs on planet earth, but sorry, different countries are different

Here in America, the idea that all people can be talked into voluntarily detoxing from their illegal hard drug of choice and going into a rehab program is a fairy tale sort of like the other Marxist utopias you imagine in your own mind

[Kaveh]

now i see the problem. You have no clue about anything. The war on drugs is just a continuation of slavery. The government pumped drugs into poor, black and brown communities to finance contra and other stupid shit. Then ramped up prosecution of those people.

Drug use is not a criminal issue, its a health issue.

Who did the sackler family target? Blacks and browns? Nope

[Kaveh]

Drug use can be a health issue, it can also cause criminal actions such as theft and assault as a direct result of addiction and intoxication, but not for all users

We have a right to choose not to seek treatment for “health issues” and that includes drug use. So if someone is using drugs to the point where the drug is causing them to become a danger to themselves or the community, and also don’t want any help, then the legal system has to get involved

Nowadays that is in the form of drug courts which offer either treatment or jail, it’s up to the user

That’s about as good as it’s going to get here in America. I know you can point at different EU countries with entirely different cultures that also don’t share a border with the biggest distributer of drugs on planet earth, but sorry, different countries are different

Here in America, the idea that all people can be talked into voluntarily detoxing from their illegal hard drug of choice and going into a rehab program is a fairy tale sort of like the other Marxist utopias you imagine in your own mind

It shouldn’t be voluntary

You fail a piss test you’re shipped to my ranch and I’ll cure you. Painfully and slowly

[unsunghero]

It shouldn’t be voluntary

You fail a piss test you’re shipped to my ranch and I’ll cure you. Painfully and slowly

I saw this article about homelessness in Portland causing an exodus of people who had houses near where new homeless camps had sprung up

A homeless person was interviewed and said something like “why don’t they trust us? Just because we don’t live behind four walls?”

And it’s like…no…it’s the drugs. It’s always been the drugs. That’s why they don’t trust you

[Domo]

who would do better?

if the republicans would have full power for 50 years, how would your country look like?
Also how would your country look like if the democrats would have full power for 50 years?

(I know i will trigger stupid answers with this, but thats the plan)

[unsunghero]

who would do better?

if the republicans would have full power for 50 years, how would your country look like?
Also how would your country look like if the democrats would have full power for 50 years?

(I know i will trigger stupid answers with this, but thats the plan)

That's a great question

I don't know enough about each's specific economic and policy goals to answer it. But from a very general perspective, and excuse the gender-normativity of this very general explanation, but I've always felt like the left is like the mom and the right is like the dad in how they behave. The right is big on "tough love", law and order, personal responsibility, and minimal assistance. The left is big on nurturing, empathy, and support

So in terms of what side would have the quickest beneficial impact? I would say the left. In any "tough love" scenario, where you have a kid who has these negative behaviors you want to stop, so you start putting some boundaries on him, things tend to get worse, sometimes much worse, before they get better

So my very cursory answer would be the left would have an immediate and very noticeable beneficial impact, which might go down as the years go by. And the right would have a very negative initial impact, which might improve as the years go by

[Jibartik]

who would do better?

if the republicans would have full power for 50 years, how would your country look like?
Also how would your country look like if the democrats would have full power for 50 years?

(I know i will trigger stupid answers with this, but thats the plan)

well the republicans turn the nation into a Christian nation and execute everyone in the world that doesn't worship the aliens that they introduce us to.

if the democrats win world war III causes billions of deaths and we are all forced to join some bug eating global cult that introduces us to aliens.