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I Felt Nostalgic
03-11-2019, 07:28 PM
I'm worried I'll die of laughter if it happens.

I think half the country would and then the Democrats would actually be able to win the Presidency.

DinoTriz2
03-11-2019, 07:43 PM
I think half the country would and then the Democrats would actually be able to win the Presidency.

Shit. Maybe that's their plan...

JurisDictum
03-11-2019, 07:52 PM
I think Bernie will probably win the nomination/election and will be a disappointment.

He is old, his ideas are old. Unions and make work isn't the way of the future. The only reason German/Swedish style unions work now is because they have been that way forever. Back when that was the answer.

Warren was likely as long as she got the establishment before Bernie -- but it doesn't look to lining up like that. Probably because she is fundamentally wooden and technocratic. There is little she offers other than tax expertise, and you don't need that in a president.

Trump could win on a socialist scare platform maybe...but I give Bernie the edge simply because average household wealth continues to decline and healthcare is basically in a do-nothing purgatory right now. IDK how many people have great healthcare plans -- but I doubt its enough to preserve the status quo.

I predict a lot of questioning of the election results no matter who wins. Which is a bad thing for stability and moving forward.

Edit: the Truth is, I think a real Fascist president would be a more electable president than anything after a market crash (not yet). Trump is not even a Mussolini let alone a Hitler.

feniin
03-11-2019, 07:53 PM
Which race owns the wealth in China?

The Han Chinese?

DinoTriz2
03-11-2019, 07:58 PM
The Han Chinese?

You sure?

JurisDictum
03-11-2019, 08:00 PM
The Han Chinese?

That's my understanding. I know Jews have disproportionately wealthy populations all over the world, I don't really think they have a lot of control as group in China though.

Maybe the Chinese Empire is just the Chinese Empire. Like it was through most of history.

They have their own banking system and they create their own parallel tech (copied from our companies) is my understanding. They think of themselves as the true center and the long term superpower of the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCTTq0q4h-A

JurisDictum
03-11-2019, 08:45 PM
Zuckerberg Wants Facebook to Build a Mind-Reading Machine (https://www.wired.com/story/zuckerberg-wants-facebook-to-build-mind-reading-machine/)

Zuckerberg confessed that he hadn’t sought out such an awesome responsibility. No one should, he said. “If I was a different person, what would I want the CEO of the company to be able to do?” he asked himself. “I would not want so many decisions about content to be concentrated with any individual.”

Instead, Facebook will establish its own Supreme Court, he told Zittrain, an outside panel entrusted to settle thorny questions about what appears on the platform. “I will not be able to make a decision that overturns what they say,” he promised, “which I think is good.”

Well its good data is looking into making cyborgs I guess. Who else?

Facebook backtracks after removing Warren ads calling for Facebook breakup (https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/11/facebook-removes-elizabeth-warren-ads-1216757) -- Which I also found interesting.

DinoTriz2
03-11-2019, 09:13 PM
lol (https://youtu.be/3AJ2W-AXLno)

Irulan
03-11-2019, 09:53 PM
lol (https://youtu.be/3AJ2W-AXLno)

Ugly. Ugly personality. *stoned* Can't get a real job. Mad her man don't have a job. Can't get elected.

So she's basically mad at women who outclass her. Ya. She definitely needs to stay outa politics and learn how to suck some nursing home dicks.

Equality is definitely not good for her. Having to work and learn how to be a decent human is too fucking hard for women like her.

I Felt Nostalgic
03-11-2019, 09:58 PM
lol (https://youtu.be/3AJ2W-AXLno)

LOL. I love how she is being so truthful all of a sudden these past few weeks. She must have learned that she is going to be killed soon.

America
03-11-2019, 11:00 PM
she is haggard as fuk

if i look like that in my 60s shut me up go home bitch. that's it

I Felt Nostalgic
03-11-2019, 11:01 PM
if i look like that in my 60s shut me up go home bitch. that's it

Noted.

Wonkie
03-11-2019, 11:21 PM
lol (https://youtu.be/3AJ2W-AXLno)

my sister thinks this kinda stuff. my favorite kin.

feniin
03-12-2019, 12:30 AM
https://i.imgur.com/11aFBTx.jpg
We're gonna build a wall and the rest of you will pay for it.

I Felt Nostalgic
03-12-2019, 12:46 AM
I like foxkin 🦊. If I had to fuck an animal it might be a fox. They are darn cute.

Which animal would you fuck if you had to?

Probably a dolphin. You know that shit is water tight dawg.

Wonkie
03-12-2019, 12:52 AM
I like foxkin 🦊. If I had to fuck an animal it might be a fox. They are darn cute.

Which animal would you fuck if you had to?

id fuck gay lenin

I Felt Nostalgic
03-12-2019, 12:55 AM
id fuck gay lenin

Is that some kind of Russian bear?

Wonkie
03-12-2019, 01:05 AM
Is that some kind of Russian bear?

no its like a reflex at this point. sorry J.

misterbonkers
03-12-2019, 01:56 AM
https://i.imgur.com/11aFBTx.jpg
We're gonna build a wall and the rest of you will pay for it.

https://i.imgur.com/QBCZOB2.png

Patriam1066
03-12-2019, 03:36 AM
Who’s the Florida chick

God damn

DMN
03-12-2019, 05:31 AM
Ugly. Ugly personality. *stoned* Can't get a real job. Mad her man don't have a job. Can't get elected.

So she's basically mad at women who outclass her. Ya. She definitely needs to stay outa politics and learn how to suck some nursing home dicks.

Equality is definitely not good for her. Having to work and learn how to be a decent human is too fucking hard for women like her.

Hillary will kill you for criticizing her.

DinoTriz2
03-12-2019, 06:38 AM
https://i.imgur.com/11aFBTx.jpg
We're gonna build a wall and the rest of you will pay for it.

Can we make a law where we can execute elderly drivers doing 60 in the fast lane?

DinoTriz2
03-12-2019, 06:44 AM
Who’s the Florida chick

God damn

She's the latina qt.

Probably from Miami.

We quarantine the Cubans there.

The rest of the state is either meth mouth rednecks or insanely rich old people.

Wait, what does that make me...

Fuck.

Irulan
03-12-2019, 07:42 AM
https://i.imgur.com/QBCZOB2.png

Don't forget FL produces the hottest trannies

Irulan
03-12-2019, 07:46 AM
I like foxkin ��. If I had to fuck an animal it might be a fox. They are darn cute.

Which animal would you fuck if you had to?

Probably a dolphin. You know that shit is water tight dawg.

Dolphin > shark > gator > tarpon > armadillo > fox > possum > coon

Irulan
03-12-2019, 07:48 AM
Real Florida man is immune / recognized by the bugs and nematodes as one of their own and not covered in bugbites.

Irulan
03-12-2019, 07:54 AM
Also needs more tattoos. Florida man is always tribally associated with Nascar, a brand name beer, and a white gang.

DinoTriz2
03-12-2019, 08:36 AM
And thick, leathery skin. Tanned in the sun.

Hell, even shut ins have a 24/7 tan.

It's illegal to be pale in FL.

Cecily
03-12-2019, 08:45 AM
And thick, leathery skin. Tanned in the sun.

Hell, even shut ins have a 24/7 tan.

It's illegal to be pale in FL.

Lol, add that to the list of reasons for me to avoid Florida, among others such as the high concentration of Floridians and fire ants.

DinoTriz2
03-12-2019, 08:49 AM
Our skin gives us +15 AC upon creation

DinoTriz2
03-12-2019, 09:31 AM
I know a redneck girl who hunts alligators with a bow.

She's a bad bitch.

JurisDictum
03-12-2019, 11:08 AM
So why do you live in that shithole Dino?

Madbad
03-12-2019, 11:31 AM
He isn't allowed to cross state lines as per the terms of his probation

JurisDictum
03-12-2019, 11:33 AM
Coulter brushed off the president’s criticism in an interview with The Palm Beach Post after her Forum Club remarks.

“I don’t know why he doesn’t just ignore me. He doesn’t mind ignoring the rest of his base,” Coulter said.

Burn

DinoTriz2
03-12-2019, 12:11 PM
So why do you live in that shithole Dino?

I don't live in the shithole areas (https://www.google.com/search?q=sarasota&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS836US836&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiKkI7pgP3gAhULY6wKHTf0C6MQ_AUIECgD&biw=1920&bih=937)

America
03-12-2019, 12:20 PM
I don't live in the shithole areas (https://www.google.com/search?q=sarasota&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS836US836&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiKkI7pgP3gAhULY6wKHTf0C6MQ_AUIECgD&biw=1920&bih=937)

there is definitely shit in a hole somewhere in this photo.

https://i.imgur.com/nOuNPxp.png

DinoTriz2
03-12-2019, 12:27 PM
Residents of LBK are pretty shitty, but in a different way

America
03-12-2019, 12:43 PM
i shared a bed once with an EverQuester whose home is in this photograph. he collectively, with the other residents, owns a section of this private beach. this is a good beach sans poop holes.

https://i.imgur.com/lWw1T92.png

misterbonkers
03-12-2019, 12:46 PM
Who’s the Florida chick

God damn

you would love it where I live, bud. shes not that uncommon here.

Irulan
03-12-2019, 01:43 PM
I was reading an article... And a democratic presidential hopeful aktchually brought up reparations.... Yikes.

Irulan
03-12-2019, 01:45 PM
I have a better figure than Florida chick BTW. She's very straight and square... Ick

JurisDictum
03-12-2019, 01:55 PM
I was reading an article... And a democratic presidential hopeful aktchually brought up reparations.... Yikes.

It's all part of the process. You all better hope Trump doesn't win another term if you want to see "America Great Again."

JurisDictum
03-12-2019, 01:56 PM
I don't live in the shithole areas (https://www.google.com/search?q=sarasota&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS836US836&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiKkI7pgP3gAhULY6wKHTf0C6MQ_AUIECgD&biw=1920&bih=937)

Seems kind of gay

10703

Wonkie
03-12-2019, 01:57 PM
check out this slogan (the indepedendent)

We’ll tell you what’s true. You can form your own view.

Irulan
03-12-2019, 02:13 PM
It's all part of the process. You all better hope Trump doesn't win another term if you want to see "America Great Again."

Y would Trump result in reparations?

Im so pissed at the dems. All they need to do is run a socially libertarian republican platform and promise not to be assholes with executive overeach and toss us a feel good wallboner for Bubba.

DinoTriz2
03-12-2019, 02:15 PM
Seems kind of gay

Gays are welcome here. We don't believe in Sharia Law like Leftists do.

JurisDictum
03-12-2019, 02:15 PM
Y would Trump result in reparations?

Im so pissed at the dems. All they need to do is run a socially libertarian republican platform and promise not to be assholes with executive overeach and a feel good wallboner for Bubba.

If Clinton got elected, it wouldn't have been good for the Socialists. If Trump gets elected its not going to be good for the populist right.

Bernie isn't even going to fucking live 8 years if he is elected. The populist right will be much better off building resentment during a 4 year Bernie term in the long run.*

But I expect everyone to be shortsighted and see trump as the hero of the populist right -- rather than another billionaire scammer riding that bandwagon for the most part.

*Remember, market crash inc...probably going to happen before 5 years from now.

maskedmelon
03-12-2019, 02:55 PM
isn't sharia liek ultra-conservative? i think it may be irresponsible to frame it as leftist just because it is authoritarian. the right can be authoritarian too and just because some leftists support sharia or sharia-liek practices as the sacred right of people to live as they please, doesn't mean that all or the even most left-leaning people support cutting of hands for theft or stoning people. the vast majority of left-leaning persons do not support those things. But then, they don't identify as leftists either. those normal people identify as liberals or sometimes progressives, though sometimes leftists prefer the latter.

America
03-12-2019, 03:02 PM
I have a better figure than Florida chick BTW. She's very straight and square... Ick
a fake tiddy too far. she'd be a beautiful lithe thing if she hadn't stepped into the Bimbomatic 9000 from that one game.

isn't sharia liek ultra-conservative? i think it may be irresponsible to frame it as leftist just because it is authoritarian. the right can be authoritarian too and just because some leftists support sharia or sharia-liek practices as the sacred right of people to live as they please, doesn't mean that all or the even most left-leaning people support cutting of hands for theft or stoning people. the vast majority of left-leaning persons do not support those things. But then, they don't identify as leftists either. those normal people identify as liberals or sometimes progressives, though sometimes leftists prefer the latter.

i think the meme is like, the lefties let in the Mohammedans and then there's ShaRi`A law. so lefties are for ShaRi`A law, by the transgender property. which is facktchyually correct.

America
03-12-2019, 03:05 PM
Most leftists, will unwittingly support sharia for the virtue signalling points, because (somehow) the most common and most dogmatic religion in the world resides atop the pyramid of intersectionality right now; likely because its the most non-white mellanin-rich religion.

ya like this

maskedmelon
03-12-2019, 03:10 PM
a fake tiddy too far. she'd be a beautiful lithe thing if she hadn't stepped into the Bimbomatic 9000 from that one game.

eye noticed that too :/ and agree 1000%

i think the meme is like, the lefties let in the Mohammedans and then there's ShaRi`A law. so lefties are for ShaRi`A law. which is facktchyually correct.

that's liek acktyually, butt with facts, right? i think that makes sense, but thought we were talking about leftiSTS rather than leftiES. i always considered lefties to be the ordinary guys and gals for things liek affirmative action and equal pay and stuff. im so fucking confused now.

rebeccablack
03-12-2019, 03:33 PM
Between "anti-fascist" communist overtly expressing anti-semitism
i think the right wing has a lot of house cleaning to do before they can criticize the left for antisemitism friend

DinoTriz2
03-12-2019, 04:08 PM
i think the right wing has a lot of house cleaning to do before they can criticize the left for antisemitism friend

lol suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure

You have an example from 1940.

We have multiple examples from 2019.

You're the party of antisemitism.

Fuckin' deal with it :cool:

DinoTriz2
03-12-2019, 04:10 PM
I have a strange attraction to this lifestyle. Would they kick me out for being a Trump supporter? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bs24nK5er8)

Patriam1066
03-12-2019, 04:14 PM
i think the right wing has a lot of house cleaning to do before they can criticize the left for antisemitism friend

Jews and Muslims both need to convert or find alternative housing (6 feet under)

JurisDictum
03-12-2019, 04:17 PM
I think want Throndor is trying to say is that he likes the international banking system the way it is, and we should all just deal with it and think about sharia law. Because sharia law is the real threat to this country and it's whats been holding us back.

rebeccablack
03-12-2019, 04:18 PM
lol suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure

You have an example from 1940.

We have multiple examples from 2019.

You're the party of antisemitism.

Fuckin' deal with it :cool:
gonna chalk this up to intellectual dishonesty, unless you get your memery from way further down the human centipede than i thought

Patriam1066
03-12-2019, 04:39 PM
you would love it where I live, bud. shes not that uncommon here.

She’s honestly not that hot. It’s jsut my son’s fiancé and her sisters are green and hazel eyed salvadoreans and until I bang one my ding dong is after Latinas like a head seeking missile

That’s not a typo

DinoTriz2
03-12-2019, 04:44 PM
gonna chalk this up to intellectual dishonesty, unless you get your memery from way further down the human centipede than i thought

Do you disregard all evidence and facts as "intellectual dishonesty" when they don't agree with your worldview?

We currently have at least two Democratic congresswomen serving who are unapologetic antisemites.

And yet no one cares.

If a Republican farts the wrong way, you decide to kill him and his family.

Patriam1066
03-12-2019, 04:44 PM
a fake tiddy too far. she'd be a beautiful lithe thing if she hadn't stepped into the Bimbomatic 9000 from that one game.



i think the meme is like, the lefties let in the Mohammedans and then there's ShaRi`A law. so lefties are for ShaRi`A law, by the transgender property. which is facktchyually correct.

There was a Shia Muslim community here in Houston about 15 years ago. It used to show Iranian films and we’d all get together and eat kabob, dance (no burqas), and drink tea. Normal persian shit, and even bahais like me were welcome

Today, the same community is run by Pakistani Shia who are basically Al Qaeda 2.0. Close the fucking borders. They’re sending rapists, and some, I assume, are good people

Patriam1066
03-12-2019, 04:45 PM
^true story. I’m triggered by it and really need america to sell Iran nukes and F-22s. I promise we will permanently clean up the Middle East for once and for all eternally for now and forever

DinoTriz2
03-12-2019, 04:46 PM
She’s honestly not that hot. It’s jsut my son’s fiancé and her sisters are green and hazel eyed salvadoreans and until I bang one my ding dong is after Latinas like a head seeking missile

That’s not a typo

Her body makes my dick drip.

America
03-12-2019, 04:46 PM
^true story. I’m triggered by it and really need america to sell Iran nukes and F-22s. I promise we will permanently clean up the Middle East for once and for all eternally for now and forever

if yall are moslems right now and u don't like that, how will f22s and nukes help right now? curious about ur analisys here, beyond misplaced pride in your melanated race.

Patriam1066
03-12-2019, 04:58 PM
if yall are moslems right now and u don't like that, how will f22s and nukes help right now? curious about ur analisys here, beyond misplaced pride in your melanated race.

Our form of Islam is fine, it’s tempered by Persian culture. It’s like Christians in America vs Christians in Central African Republic. They aren’t the same but small brained morons can’t separate the two.

F-22s give us dunk capability on the Saudis and nukes make sure the pakis and Israelis have to stfu long enough for us to do what must be done

PS: fun fact. Iranians are Zoroastrian. We worship fire and our ancestors. The other stuff is just a cover

rebeccablack
03-12-2019, 04:59 PM
Do you disregard all evidence and facts as "intellectual dishonesty" when they don't agree with your worldview?

We currently have at least two Democratic congresswomen serving who are unapologetic antisemites.

And yet no one cares.

If a Republican farts the wrong way, you decide to kill him and his family.
no, im saying that the current republican leadership has given legitimacy and a mainstream political voice to white nationalist groups for the first time in generations, and a junior congresswoman saying anti-israel stuff isnt a very good deflection from that.

Patriam1066
03-12-2019, 05:00 PM
They're never going to release them to you without Iran accepting a central bank, though.

The dream is for America to recognize Aryan blood ties over Jewish fiscal ties. Probably too late for that given this country’s state of (((affairs))), but here’s to hoping there’s an Augustus out there

Patriam1066
03-12-2019, 05:03 PM
no, im saying that the current republican leadership has given legitimacy and a mainstream political voice to white nationalist groups for the first time in generations, and a junior congresswoman saying anti-israel stuff isnt a very good deflection from that.

Everyone in America sees a Muslim woman wearing a hijab talking about Israel. What do you think comes to mind? Mitch McConnell and other Kentucky klansmen? Or 9/11 and ISIS? You really don’t understand how bad the Omar thing looks do you bud. You guys only have to run Beto or Biden and you’ll win 100%. You let the hideous women of the Democratic Party speak their lunacy in public and trump might win a second term. Tulsi Gabbard is somewhat decent looking. Give her the mic if you insist on letting women speak on subjects above their pay grade

JurisDictum
03-12-2019, 05:04 PM
What are some of the concrete examples of Antisemitism in the democratic party ATM?

Like saying Israel is a foreign power and identifying an ideology called Zionism?

Is that the Antisemitism we need to stomp out ASAP?

Patriam1066
03-12-2019, 05:06 PM
What are some of the concrete examples of Antisemitism in the democratic party ATM?

Like saying Israel is a foreign power and identifying an ideology called Zionism?

Is that the Antisemitism we need to stomp out ASAP?

She said Israel hypnotized America’s politicians and Jews have dual loyalty dude

It’s true but it’s defijitely anti Semitic and both myself and Omar are Muslim

Patriam1066
03-12-2019, 05:08 PM
Democrats should burn a Bible at chic fil a. That would be better than having a Somali in Congress

Hope this helps. Politics is a game of optics. You’re getting rekt by an obese septuagenarian who eats KFC

DinoTriz2
03-12-2019, 05:09 PM
no, im saying that the current republican leadership has given legitimacy and a mainstream political voice to white nationalist groups for the first time in generations, and a junior congresswoman saying anti-israel stuff isnt a very good deflection from that.

In what fucking way?

Just because you imagine something doesn't make it true.

JurisDictum
03-12-2019, 05:11 PM
Oh noes! We're going to lose the pro-Zionism vote in our movement to stop pointless foreign wars...

Surely if some white blond dude said that -- we would get those votes.

maskedmelon
03-12-2019, 05:12 PM
it's retarded to argue that leftists (let alone lefties) hate Jews. they hate success. it's the central theme of the left. success is always attributed to the environment, never the individual. the individual's role is only ever limited to manipulating the environment to enhance the benefits to themselves and corresponding losses to others. there are no win-win outcomes in a free society.

Irulan
03-12-2019, 05:14 PM
Democrats should burn a Bible at chic fil a. That would be better than having a Somali in Congress

Hope this helps. Politics is a game of optics. You’re getting rekt by an obese septuagenarian who eats KFC

Kfc isn't Halal.

:(

Patriam1066
03-12-2019, 05:15 PM
Oh noes! We're going to lose the pro-Zionism vote in our movement to stop pointless foreign wars...

Surely if some white blond dude said that -- we would get those votes.

You’re going to lose suburban votes by having a hijabi shrieking about Israel. Do you really not understand that? Americans don’t fear or hate Jews. They do fear and hate Muslims

Are you low IQ or something? what is hard to understand about this???

DinoTriz2
03-12-2019, 05:27 PM
Oh noes! We're going to lose the pro-Zionism vote in our movement to stop pointless foreign wars...

Surely if some white blond dude said that -- we would get those votes.

The majority of Americans support Israel, you retard.

Have fun losing in 2020 :)

JurisDictum
03-12-2019, 05:28 PM
The problem with Freedom (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZojlidqhcM),

we don't actually have it. At least the vast majority of us.

We're all authoritarians at heart. Some just like the current authority structure more than others.

maskedmelon
03-12-2019, 05:33 PM
And that's because the leftists are nihilistic self-defeatists who simply do not believe in individual achievement. They've given up, and now they're waiting on the world to chance to suit them. Totally realistic expectation; I'm sure their power-seeking sociopathic leaders are altruistically seeking power to deliver their fantasy to them.

It's not an outlandish desire, particularly if you are an agreeable person, a covetous one, an empathetic one or a slothful one. ones intentions could be well placed, the price just isn't always well understood.

maskedmelon
03-12-2019, 05:37 PM
The problem with Freedom (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZojlidqhcM),

we don't actually have it. At least the vast majority of us.

We're all authoritarians at heart. Some just like the current authority structure more than others.

most of us are too free. it's why so many are so damn unhappy. struggle allows for appreciation.

JurisDictum
03-12-2019, 05:37 PM
You’re going to lose suburban votes by having a hijabi shrieking about Israel. Do you really not understand that? Americans don’t fear or hate Jews. They do fear and hate Muslims

Are you low IQ or something? what is hard to understand about this???

Some elected official talks about Israel and then Fox News plasters it all over their network like she's running for president.

A pro-Israel Jew is running socialist for president...or did you forget that because whatever right slanted news feed your reading is prattling about this all day?

Both networks take the dumbest motherfucker from each side and use them to represent the other side on their echo chamber networks. This is nothing new -- you're just sensitive about this particular topic.

Most people that are at all open to voting for Sanders are not going to get scared away because of some congress woman that represents hardly anyone -- not AOC not her.

I know that it is REALLY hard to grasp this for some of you -- But modern voters that swing at all -- look at the actual person running for president, not the every ugly thing in each of their parties.

Politicians get elected by promising shit for their constituents and gaining trust -- nothing more.

DinoTriz2
03-12-2019, 05:39 PM
The problem with Freedom (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZojlidqhcM),

we don't actually have it. At least the vast majority of us.

We're all authoritarians at heart. Some just like the current authority structure more than others.

Maybe don't support Stalinism and you won't be so authoritarian.

Patriam1066
03-12-2019, 05:39 PM
The problem with Freedom (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZojlidqhcM),

we don't actually have it. At least the vast majority of us.

We're all authoritarians at heart. Some just like the current authority structure more than others.

?

Where is better? Canada, Australia, New Zealand, maybe Ireland...

That’s it. I’ve done a lot of traveling in my life and there are a lot of shitholes out there bud. Even Europe is a vast swath of doodoo

Work on your mindset dude are you even 30? You could buy a house, rent it, buy another, rent it and be sitting on good passive income by 45. Stop making N decisions

Patriam1066
03-12-2019, 05:41 PM
Some elected official talks about Israel and then Fox News plasters it all over their network like she's running for president.

A pro-Israel Jew is running socialist for president...or did you forget that because whatever right slanted news feed your reading is prattling about this all day?

Both networks take the dumbest motherfucker from each side and use them to represent the other side on their echo chamber networks. This is nothing new -- you're just sensitive about this particular topic.

Most people that are at all open to voting for Sanders are not going to get scared away because of some congress woman that represents hardly anyone -- not AOC not her.

I know that it is REALLY hard to grasp this for some of you -- But modern voters that swing at all -- look at the actual person running for president, not the every ugly thing in each of their parties.

Politicians get elected by promising shit for their constituents and gaining trust -- nothing more.

You could lose if Omar stays in the news bud

Get mad all you want but it’s the honest truth. This should be a Democratic landslide but the Democratic Party is just so fucking bad at politics

rebeccablack
03-12-2019, 05:42 PM
In what fucking way?
because those groups support trump, helped get him elected, and hes repeatedly refused to condemn them because he needs the support of that fringe

meanwhile omar whoever has gotten condemned by half of her party already

I Felt Nostalgic
03-12-2019, 05:43 PM
?

Where is better? Canada, Australia, New Zealand, maybe Ireland...

That’s it. I’ve done a lot of traveling in my life and there are a lot of shitholes out there bud. Even Europe is a vast swath of doodoo

Work on your mindset dude are you even 30? You could buy a house, rent it, buy another, rent it and be sitting on good passive income by 45. Stop making N decisions

Most people who hate this country have never even traveled outside of the country or been here before. If they did some traveling, they would quickly find out that this is the best country in the world.

DinoTriz2
03-12-2019, 05:44 PM
because those groups support trump, helped get him elected, and hes repeatedly refused to condemn them because he needs the support of that fringe

meanwhile omar whoever has gotten condemned by half of her party already

Ah, because far right groups exist, that makes Trump an anti-semite.

Fucking asinine.

rebeccablack
03-12-2019, 05:45 PM
Ah, because far right groups exist, that makes Trump an anti-semite.

Fucking asinine.
work on your reading comprehension

Patriam1066
03-12-2019, 05:54 PM
because those groups support trump, helped get him elected, and hes repeatedly refused to condemn them because he needs the support of that fringe

meanwhile omar whoever has gotten condemned by half of her party already

You’re correct but Omar should be asked to resign and probably be deported. Bernie Sanders should apologize on her behalf and read a New Testament at Chic Fil A. Then and only then will I be appeased

DinoTriz2
03-12-2019, 05:55 PM
work on your reading comprehension

That's essentially what you are saying.

Trump is an anti-semite because of what he didn’t say.

That's a thought crime. Authoritarian tactic.

Meanwhile, we have Democrats in office who blatantly speak against Jewish people, sharing memes of rats with stars of David on them and no one gives a shit.

Pelosi said "she just has a different experience with words".

Lol get the fuck out of here. You people are disgusting.

America
03-12-2019, 06:01 PM
work on your reading comprehension

you're* dude. at least try to present a respectable face if your going to argue seriously.

rebeccablack
03-12-2019, 06:03 PM
Trump is an anti-semite because of what he didn’t say.
i didnt even imply this. sometimes i think i give u too much credit.

there is a ton of antisemitism in the right wing. mostly in the fringes but u can see it creeping into the mainstream here and there. i kind of assume youve seen plenty of it in whatever information silos you choose. you even have right wing ubertards on these forums like teppler that spew the same shit.

i dont think trump is an antisemite at all, but i think hes very carefully courted that fringe demographic and knows better than to cross them, which gives them legitimacy and some buy-in to mainstream politics that they havent had in years.

America
03-12-2019, 06:05 PM
i didnt even imply this. sometimes i think i give u too much credit.

there is a ton of antisemitism in the right wing. mostly in the fringes but u can see it creeping into the mainstream here and there. i kind of assume youve seen plenty of it in whatever information silos you choose. you even have right wing ubertards on these forums like teppler that spew the same shit.

i dont think trump is an antisemite at all, but i think hes very carefully courted that fringe demographic and knows better than to cross them, which gives them legitimacy and some buy-in to mainstream politics that they havent had in years.

why would I bother reading this when I know you can't tell your from you're?

that's kind of what I'm getting at. I didn't read it.

misterbonkers
03-12-2019, 06:16 PM
i didnt even imply this. sometimes i think i give u too much credit.

there is a ton of antisemitism in the right wing. mostly in the fringes but u can see it creeping into the mainstream here and there. i kind of assume youve seen plenty of it in whatever information silos you choose. you even have right wing ubertards on these forums like teppler that spew the same shit.

i dont think trump is an antisemite at all, but i think hes very carefully courted that fringe demographic and knows better than to cross them, which gives them legitimacy and some buy-in to mainstream politics that they havent had in years.

you are aware the person you're talking to posted a link to the unabomber's manifesto and had their account nuked, right?

likely one of the very accounts you're referring to is his old one, scaringchildren

Patriam1066
03-12-2019, 06:17 PM
To be fair, the unabomber had more sex than JD

I Felt Nostalgic
03-12-2019, 06:23 PM
USA is the best country in the world.

Change my mind.

America
03-12-2019, 06:26 PM
USA is the best country in the world.

Change my mind.

in Finland you get confined to land and a rural cabin if u murder someone

America
03-12-2019, 06:27 PM
USA is the best country in the world.

Change my mind.

in Saudi social life is one huge Gor RP

America
03-12-2019, 06:29 PM
USA is the best country in the world.

Change my mind.

in Japan u can buy robotic masturbator arms fitted to a standard sleeve size in vending machines at mcdonalds, where we would have The Red Box

America
03-12-2019, 06:35 PM
ok enough jokes. Sweden, for example, is 82% White.

I Felt Nostalgic
03-12-2019, 06:46 PM
ok enough jokes. Sweden, for example, is 82% White.

Damn... I gotta admit... That's a pretty good one. :eek:

DinoTriz2
03-12-2019, 06:59 PM
you are aware the person you're talking to posted a link to the unabomber's manifesto and had their account nuked, right?

likely one of the very accounts you're referring to is his old one, scaringchildren

Lol I've never uttered an antisemitic thing in my life.

What does the unabomber have to do with antisemitism?

Do you think every bad person in the world hates Jews?

I Felt Nostalgic
03-12-2019, 07:05 PM
Lol I've never uttered an antisemitic thing in my life.

What does the unabomber have to do with antisemitism?

Do you think every bad person in the world hates Jews?

Lefties always perceive racism when there is none to be found.

misterbonkers
03-12-2019, 07:07 PM
Lol I've never uttered an antisemitic thing in my life.

What does the unabomber have to do with antisemitism?

Do you think every bad person in the world hates Jews?

what's the reason you got when your account got banned again?

I Felt Nostalgic
03-12-2019, 07:18 PM
Shame on you, white, racists!

Cheers on you, black, racists!

Cheers on you, arab racists!

Shame on you, Jew, racists!


There, their condemned. Happy now, you feckless cunt?

I love how whites and jews are the target of all the world's hatred right now. It's kind of amazing how it is okay for certain groups to be openly hated on.

America
03-12-2019, 07:20 PM
Shame on you, white, racists!

Cheers on you, black, racists!

Cheers on you, arab racists!

Shame on you, Jew, racists!


There, their condemned. Happy now, you feckless cunt?

freckles are cute. i skew heavily toward sheer foundations so mine will stay present.

DinoTriz2
03-12-2019, 07:44 PM
what's the reason you got when your account got banned again?

I shared a meme that theorized that Randall Weems, from the cartoon Recess™ was made as an anti-semitic dog whistle. The meme showed Randall next to the merchant meme and that his name spells "a small jew" or something like that.

rebeccablack
03-12-2019, 07:57 PM
There, their condemned. Happy now, you feckless cunt?
yessir, always appreciate your aimless nonsense posts, thanks for stopping by.

Wonkie
03-12-2019, 08:31 PM
what happened today?

America
03-12-2019, 08:37 PM
lotta static energy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrEUzMuHkhc)in here today im just surfin it on my keyboard got my sunglasses on

DinoTriz2
03-12-2019, 09:18 PM
what happened today?

Just got back from the ER.

Animal edition.

My dog is okay.

But goddamn was my vet's assistant hot as fuck. Perfect ass, sweet as can be, and had a slight European accent.

I think I have a thing for women who care about animals. It's like a primal nurturer thing.

Does that mean I want to fuck my mom?

*consults Neizche*

JurisDictum
03-12-2019, 09:21 PM
Neizche is the most overrated philosopher and human being in western history.

Asceticism > Hedonism

Born with money and luckily found a niche as a badboy in his little privileged life. Writing pretensions barely readable crap.

Ends up a drooling idiot.

And that's what Hedonism will always yield you in the end.

Cecily
03-12-2019, 09:24 PM
It agree it’s better but moderation in all things best course for most situations imo. I think it’s best to dabble in the pleasures life offers without drowning in them.

DinoTriz2
03-12-2019, 09:43 PM
Neizche is the most overrated philosopher and human being in western history.

Asceticism > Hedonism

Born with money and luckily found a niche as a badboy in his little privileged life. Writing pretensions barely readable crap.

Ends up a drooling idiot.

And that's what Hedonism will always yield you in the end.

Which talks about people wanting to fuck their moms?

Neizche, right?

JurisDictum
03-12-2019, 09:49 PM
Which talks about people wanting to fuck their moms?

Neizche, right?

You might be thinking about Sigmund Freud.

Also overrated, but not as much. Mostly catered to rich housewives. Got famous through eloquent ideas and writing. Not surprising given his background.

I've just been waiting to bash Neizche. It's the trust-funded college kid intellectual among other types I dislike.

But a little bit of hedonism is fine. Keep in mind under Asceticism -- you still can get fucked wildly. Your just supposed to feel dirty afterwords.

America
03-12-2019, 09:51 PM
But a little bit of hedonism is fine. Keep in mind under Asceticism -- you still can get fucked wildly. Your just supposed to feel dirty afterwords.

hehe i liked this.

yeah balance asceticism and hedonism. for instance sobriety and staying as physically hot as you can in order to enjoy sex maximally. that's kinda my angle. my bf's is drinking and boyish carousing but only in the pursuit of networking/material advantage.

Cecily
03-12-2019, 10:01 PM
If you didn’t have Nietzsche, you wouldn’t have Sartre or Camus. Then again you probably wouldn’t have Hitler or WW2 either, so it’s a bit of a mixed bag. Nietzsche aphorisms are insanely quotable because he was so good at aphorisms. I like Nietzsche. Fite me.

JurisDictum
03-12-2019, 10:38 PM
I'm a leftest because they call me a leftest.

Nietzsche was good at aphorisms. But I'm not sure if existentialism couldn't have been expressed without him. Camus is mostly famous for arguing against Nihilism If I'm correct.

Lets not go blaming only Germany for WW2 -- there were multiple groups involved there.

DinoTriz2
03-12-2019, 10:55 PM
Lets not go blaming only Germany for WW2 -- there were multiple groups involved there.

Does one of the groups start with a "J"?

JurisDictum
03-12-2019, 11:17 PM
Does one of the groups start with a "J"?

Yes of course. Japan was deeply involved.

DinoTriz2
03-12-2019, 11:19 PM
Students demand their university remove a professor after he said "colleges should be embrace diversity of opinion". (https://reason.com/blog/2019/03/12/sarah-lawrence-college-abrams-demands)

Cecily
03-12-2019, 11:35 PM
Lets not go blaming only Germany for WW2 -- there were multiple groups involved there.

You also had some very fine people on both sides, believe me.

Wonkie
03-12-2019, 11:40 PM
Students demand their university remove a professor after he said "colleges should be embrace diversity of opinion". (https://reason.com/blog/2019/03/12/sarah-lawrence-college-abrams-demands)

i thought u dont like diversity?

Caldwin
03-12-2019, 11:45 PM
Censorship is not just at colleges. Facebook, twitter, youtube and others also censor.

I just watched the following youtube video from BlazeTV where they talk about how the left are trying to destroy Tucker Carlson (and FOX News in general). They also mention the censorship of the above mentioned social media. FYI, the beginning of the video (as well as the commercial breaks) show the set. The show actually begins about half minute into the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RheeyLZ2JvY

By the way, in the video Glenn Beck mentions another video he posted today on youtube that was demonetized. I guess youtube didn't like what he said. Censorship much? :rolleyes:

Wonkie
03-12-2019, 11:50 PM
not paying you isn't censorship get lost asstard

Caldwin
03-13-2019, 12:00 AM
not paying you isn't censorship get lost asstard

It's not out right removal of the video. But, it's an attempt to nudge the one uploading the video to comply or be demonetized, sort of a soft censorship. Though, Glenn Beck isn't one to be deterred from telling the truth.

misterbonkers
03-13-2019, 12:08 AM
It's not out right removal of the video.

so it's not censorship, then

I Felt Nostalgic
03-13-2019, 12:08 AM
Glenn Beck is a turd that will support whoever pays him the most.

Caldwin
03-13-2019, 12:17 AM
Glenn Beck is a turd that will support whoever pays him the most.

Oh, believing the leftist lies. Glenn Beck supports the truth. He isn't beholden to anyone.

I Felt Nostalgic
03-13-2019, 12:21 AM
Oh, believing the leftist lies. Glenn Beck supports the truth. He isn't beholden to anyone.

Oh really...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVz92-oHW4Q

Only once he started hemorrhaging listeners and viewers of his show because of his anti Trump rhetoric did he start to support Trump as President.

DMN
03-13-2019, 12:39 AM
Oh really...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVz92-oHW4Q

Only once he started hemorrhaging listeners and viewers of his show because of his anti Trump rhetoric did he start to support Trump as President.


You certainly seemed interested in the guy, despite his alleged turditude.

Caldwin
03-13-2019, 12:42 AM
Oh really...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVz92-oHW4Q

Only once he started hemorrhaging listeners and viewers of his show because of his anti Trump rhetoric did he start to support Trump as President.

I don't know what the video has to do with anything. But, just like him, I was apprehensive with Trump before the election. I viewed Trump as the Republicans' Obama... willing to use pin and phone to get his way and subverting the constitution. It wasn't until after he became president and did some things that I agreed with, I changed my mind. Though, I don't like the tariffs. It won't do the US economy any good in the long run. Also, him threatening a national emergency over the border crisis is just wrong. It gives the president even more undeserved power. Plus, the Democrats can use the precedent to push through their agenda. I believe Glenn Beck feels the same way... supportive, but cautious.

I mostly view Trump as a stop gap to the leftists. I just hope he can succeed enough to be re-elected in 2020. Because, If the Democrats win the presidency, especially if they win the Senate and keep the House, this country as a free nation will be over.

I Felt Nostalgic
03-13-2019, 01:08 AM
I just hope he can succeed enough to be re-elected in 2020.

Democrats have pretty much guaranteed his re-election in 2020 with all of their hatefulness and bigotry in view of the public.

Caldwin
03-13-2019, 01:19 AM
Democrats have pretty much guaranteed his re-election in 2020 with all of their hatefulness and bigotry in view of the public.

I hope that goes for Congress as well. After all, they are (or supposed to be) the lawmakers. Everyone focuses on the president, but often forget about Congress.

feniin
03-13-2019, 02:17 AM
this country as a free nation will be over.

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

The fuck are you talking about?

I Felt Nostalgic
03-13-2019, 02:23 AM
I hope that goes for Congress as well. After all, they are (or supposed to be) the lawmakers. Everyone focuses on the president, but often forget about Congress.

Praise Innoruuk!

DiogenesThaDogg
03-13-2019, 07:25 AM
Because, If the Democrats win the presidency, especially if they win the Senate and keep the House, this country as a free nation will be over.

Could you expand on this point, please?

DinoTriz2
03-13-2019, 07:41 AM
Could you expand on this point, please?

Democrats support:


Racism against jews and white people

Sharia law

Getting rid of the 1st Amendment

Reeducation camps

Silencing dissent

Socialism

Using political violence

DiogenesThaDogg
03-13-2019, 07:43 AM
Democrats support:


Racism against jews and white people

Sharia law

Getting rid of the 1st Amendment

Reeducation camps

Silencing dissent

Socialism

Using political violence


No they don't

DinoTriz2
03-13-2019, 07:48 AM
No they don't

You sure aren't paying attention then, bucko.

DinoTriz2
03-13-2019, 08:28 AM
Woman asks the CEO of YouTube to ban Ben Shapiro because her "lost" son watches Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson. (https://www.recode.net/podcasts/2019/3/11/18259303/youtube-susan-wojcicki-child-comments-videos-google-walkout-kara-swisher-decode-podcast-interview)

The Left supports censorship and silencing of dissent.

JurisDictum
03-13-2019, 12:15 PM
Ill find a way to get to Shapiro one of these days.

JurisDictum
03-13-2019, 12:21 PM
So pedophiles have been watching youtube videos of kids playing, exercising etc...

And apparently that means we need to double down on censorship and demonetizing people's home videos of their kids!

Because...someone might watch them and get sexually excited. So removing and demonetizing will help because...because...

There is no reason. It's just a tactic used by the MSM to put pressure on youtube. They do a blitz of articles about "Youtube profiting off pedophiles!" and then youtube feels the pressure to demonetize videos so they can respond "Nuh-uh"

Youtube is a big threat to the traditional news networks because a lot of young people get their news there and not the MSM. So they are trying to turn Youtube into another CNN.

Edit: who cares? Well, generally censorship and civil rights violations start with Terrorists and pedophiles. That's the trial balloon for more sweeping action.

JurisDictum
03-13-2019, 12:22 PM
Just keep supporting systemic racism and bigotry against whites and jews; maybe we can bring on a second holocaust. That'll get em!

Nobody is going to be able to overthrow the whites in this country. They have the vast majority of guns, political power, and they own most the cultural heritage that is America.

America
03-13-2019, 12:24 PM
So pedophiles have been watching youtube videos of kids playing, exercising etc...

And apparently that means we need to double down on censorship and demonetizing people's home videos of their kids!

Because...someone might watch them and get sexually excited. So removing and demonetizing will help because...because...

There is no reason. It's just a tactic used by the MSM to put pressure on youtube. They do a blitz of articles about "Youtube profiting off pedophiles!" and then youtube feels the pressure to demonetize videos so they can respond "Nuh-uh"

Youtube is a big threat to the traditional news networks because a lot of young people get their news there and not the MSM. So they are trying to turn Youtube into another CNN.

JD truposting

I consider myself a good influence

JurisDictum
03-13-2019, 12:38 PM
Well I might not always vote democrat. College was like, 10% of what scrambled my brain dude.

You know, when we founded this country we didn't believe in this kind of functionalist BS. It wasn't until big plantation owner Jefferson decided to form a faction to change shit, that this two party system got started.

All those degrees listed are fine...its the Humanities/Identity degrees that churn out useless assholes that know nothing but sophistry.

JurisDictum
03-13-2019, 01:05 PM
They're not "fine", though.

Sociology has been proven multiple times (Sokal Affair, and many more copycat Hoaxes) to be nothing more than an echo chamber of correlation = causation; it's not even a science its just a bunch of social rejects agreeing with each other about how bad being "normal" is.

Recent developments in "Psychology" have declared that the natural human nature of men, throughout history, is essentially a mental disease; thus outting itself as an ideological echo chamber that cannot be equated to "Science", as well.

Do we need to go into the details as to why Political "Science"s exceptionalization of the norm, and normalization of the exception is an inherently flawed approach to analyzing normative political theory?

Well I'm sure you kind find bullshit masters/PHD programs that get into a lot of that. But most of those BA degrees are just basic stuff about how to read statistics and foundational concepts etc.

A lot of times those more new controversial ideas are barely covered by a passing comment in the actual classes. Most the time the kids are just confused about what the definition of "psychosis" is.

I mean the BA is kind of the new High school diploma for my generation and the ones after me.

Sociology leads mostly to social work. Counseling etc. But there is a lot of Marxist concepts in it. He was the guy that talked about class, and class is an important concept for social workers.

Psychology either leads to more psychology, or just using some facts about interpersonal relations to help their human resource or administrative career etc.

Political Science mostly leads to bureaucrats and law school. Not a bad one for cops either.

But you could get a PHD in some BS identity stuff in any of these subjects.

misterbonkers
03-13-2019, 01:10 PM
So pedophiles have been watching youtube videos of kids playing, exercising etc...

And apparently that means we need to double down on censorship and demonetizing people's home videos of their kids!

Because...someone might watch them and get sexually excited. So removing and demonetizing will help because...because...

There is no reason. It's just a tactic used by the MSM to put pressure on youtube. They do a blitz of articles about "Youtube profiting off pedophiles!" and then youtube feels the pressure to demonetize videos so they can respond "Nuh-uh"

Youtube is a big threat to the traditional news networks because a lot of young people get their news there and not the MSM. So they are trying to turn Youtube into another CNN.

Edit: who cares? Well, generally censorship and civil rights violations start with Terrorists and pedophiles. That's the trial balloon for more sweeping action.

no, dude. there were people exploiting their children (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mnTCYsbKfw). it was a genuine problem.

Wonkie
03-13-2019, 01:17 PM
no, dude. there were people exploiting their children (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mnTCYsbKfw). it was a genuine problem.

why can't the video man say more than 1 sentence before a cut? what an irritating style

DinoTriz2
03-13-2019, 01:32 PM
There definitely are issues with some shady shit being uploaded to YouTube, but if I can put my tinfoil hat on...

*equips hat*

YouTube is demonitizing videos because they want to claim the ad revenue, instead of giving it to the creator.

YouTube runs at a loss. In order to recoup some costs, they need to claim more ad revenue.

The advertisers don't care. They don't even know which videos their ads are being shown on.

YouTube just wants that sweet sweet ad revenue. Ads continue to show on demonitized videos. The only difference is the creator doesn't get the money.

JurisDictum
03-13-2019, 01:33 PM
In actuality, most of the foreground and well stated theories in these fields were covered quite adequately by our great thinkers nearly a century ago; back when one was allowed to put forth their theories without being forced to piggyback on existing theories. Nowadays, in post-graduate programs, students are being pushed to "expand" the field in new ways that haven't already been completely explored; thus you have slews and slews of pointless post-graduate exploration into fringe concepts that really have no relevance to the majority of society, but stir up a great deal of passion with the mental/social rejects that the message resonates with.

Thus, the SJW is born; armed with pseudo-scientific "facts" at their disposal while completely oblivious and ignorant to well-established facts and precedence upon which the tertiary exploration was launched, and a complete disdain/disregard for the core subject upon which their fringe token-coverage was borne.

Couple this, with societies love affair for self-prescribed victimhood, and here we are; at a race to the bottom.

Well the vast majority of all that field expanding stuff goes unread and uncovered in BA/BS programs*. I spent a lot more time with old thinkers than anything new.

You have to go looking for that to find it in the social sciences.

*the vast majority of all that shit is read by like 3-4 people at most. It's just a form of punching the clock for researchers.

JurisDictum
03-13-2019, 01:36 PM
no, dude. there were people exploiting their children (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mnTCYsbKfw). it was a genuine problem.

Well those videos should probably be taken down rather than demonetized. Also that video had a lot of scatter shot going on. Like weird clown and BDSM videos with 14 year olds in it....little different than troll videos about plane crashes. Even if both are inappropriate.

DinoTriz2
03-13-2019, 02:21 PM
https://i.imgur.com/xINxDHu_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

DinoTriz2
03-13-2019, 03:00 PM
Do you live in this town, JD? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG-FLv-4u8E)

JurisDictum
03-13-2019, 03:32 PM
Do you live in this town, JD? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG-FLv-4u8E)

Man its all just Nazi's and Jews with you guys.

I don't get the obsession personally. There's lots else to focus on besides old WW2 history. We're living in a very interesting time.

I Felt Nostalgic
03-13-2019, 03:37 PM
Man its all just Nazi's and Jews with you guys.

I don't get the obsession personally. There's lots else to focus on besides old WW2 history. We're living in a very interesting time.

Tell that to the people who claim I owe them reparations for shit my family was never involved with.

DinoTriz2
03-13-2019, 03:39 PM
Man its all just Nazi's and Jews with you guys.

I don't get the obsession personally. There's lots else to focus on besides old WW2 history. We're living in a very interesting time.

I'm just fucking with you, man.

JurisDictum
03-13-2019, 03:49 PM
Tell that to the people who claim I owe them reparations for shit my family was never involved with.

Socialism has gained a lot of momentum because of the continued failures of wallstreet/investment banking, our military industrial complex, and the ineptitude of the Neoliberal Democrats.

If you just stay out of their way -- they will likely be able to push through a few non-market measures that are needed, but otherwise bury themselves in identity politics and unpopular make-work programs.

The Republican party has been completely co-opted by blood sucking aristocrats and various cabals, and needs a purge more than Trump is providing or ever could provide.

IDK the exact timeline I'm just pretty sure a new kind of Republican party can rise out of the next market crash / socialist regime.

DinoTriz2
03-13-2019, 03:55 PM
Socialism has gained a lot of momentum because of the continued failures of wallstreet/investment banking, our military industrial complex, and the ineptitude of the Neoliberal Democrats.

The problem isn't capitalism. It's corruption.

Something both systems have.

Wonkie
03-13-2019, 04:11 PM
i think the redhats on here will tucker themselves out eventually if we stop prodding them

DinoTriz2
03-13-2019, 04:19 PM
i think the redhats on here will tucker themselves out eventually if we stop prodding them

https://imgur.com/KzZ6psM.gif

Wonkie
03-13-2019, 04:33 PM
https://imgur.com/KzZ6psM.gif

what if you found redemption through Christ instead of some new york millionaire?

I Felt Nostalgic
03-13-2019, 04:35 PM
what if you found redemption through Christ instead of some new york millionaire?

https://i.imgur.com/ho2hpMT.gif

Cecily
03-13-2019, 04:42 PM
what if you found redemption through Christ instead of some new york millionaire?

Pretty sure that’s the same party.

DinoTriz2
03-13-2019, 04:43 PM
what if you found redemption through Christ instead of some new york millionaire?

Does Jesus have amazing one-liners?

Irulan
03-13-2019, 04:47 PM
Invalid comparison. Leftists are godless athiests.

Agreed. Also they are always trying to solve other people's problems with other people's money while sheltering illegals over patriots.

So fuck'em. I am done with their bullshit. No fucking scam Healthcare government pork bullshit is worth endorsing the raw delusional insanity of these people.

The average leftist spends 10k a year in sheltering stray cats alone while their children starve and they expect me to pay for their abortions.

_Burn it all the fuck to the ground._

DinoTriz2
03-13-2019, 04:50 PM
The Democrats haven't changed since the 1800s...

https://i.imgur.com/G95iJ0W.png

DinoTriz2
03-13-2019, 04:54 PM
https://i.imgur.com/uIZjHgB.jpg

Wonkie
03-13-2019, 04:54 PM
Invalid comparison. Leftists are godless athiests.

tell it to Merkel :)

DinoTriz2
03-13-2019, 04:56 PM
tell it to Merkel :)

HEY MERKEL!

Invalid comparison. Leftists are godless athiests.

Cecily
03-13-2019, 04:56 PM
Does Jesus have amazing one-liners?

You’re thinking of nietszche. Jesus was kinda block paragraph format for everything people said he said. I think the benefit Nietschze had was no one took artistic license with his stuff and it attributed it back to him, at least.

DinoTriz2
03-13-2019, 05:00 PM
https://i.imgur.com/mMjHu5B_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

JurisDictum
03-13-2019, 05:09 PM
10705

Wonkie
03-13-2019, 05:15 PM
HEY MERKEL!

Invalid comparison. Leftists are godless athiests.

but she's leader of the CDU(Christian Democratic Union)

America
03-13-2019, 05:26 PM
im wearing a crucifix necklace rn at work

America
03-13-2019, 07:08 PM
http://i.imgur.com/5uXI7c6.gif

Wonkie
03-13-2019, 07:22 PM
http://i.imgur.com/5uXI7c6.gif

you found it!! i looked but couldnt. yay!!!

DinoTriz2
03-13-2019, 07:28 PM
Democrats introduce new bill that makes criticism of journalists illegal. Intimidation, criticism, harassment and insults towards a journalist while they are working would be penalized under the full weight of the law (https://youtu.be/5BDiIyv3hgA)

Violates 1st Amendment, but okay lol

America
03-13-2019, 07:30 PM
Democrats introduce new bill that makes criticism of journalists illegal. Intimidation, criticism, harassment and insults towards a journalist while they are working would be penalized under the full weight of the law (https://youtu.be/5BDiIyv3hgA)

Violates 1st Amendment, but okay lol

didnt click . presumably someone ugly with a merch store narrating over screencaps??

DinoTriz2
03-13-2019, 07:37 PM
didnt click . presumably someone ugly with a merch store narrating over screencaps??

you tall

Ahldagor
03-13-2019, 07:46 PM
You’re thinking of nietszche. Jesus was kinda block paragraph format for everything people said he said. I think the benefit Nietschze had was no one took artistic license with his stuff and it attributed it back to him, at least.

Nazi Germany was led by a man who did tho'.

Translations have been redone the past 15 years because the "superman" denotation was incorrect because the literal translation of "über" is over and not super. Nietzsche did more with the long arc of the changing light through a day as it passes over us is Thus Spoke Zarathustra since the analogical synthesis through that book is a return to Plato's cave.

Ahldagor
03-13-2019, 07:47 PM
The Democrats haven't changed since the 1800s...

https://i.imgur.com/G95iJ0W.png

Nixon changed it, and you know that.

Wonkie
03-13-2019, 07:52 PM
regarding my earlier inquiry, i decided theyll antagonize themselves, so it's ok to help.

Irulan
03-13-2019, 08:03 PM
People talked about God alot in my support group today. I pretty much agreed with them all.

DinoTriz2
03-13-2019, 08:27 PM
Lol (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/afl-cio-criticizes-green-new-deal-calling-it-not-achievable-or-realistic/2019/03/12/842784fe-44dd-11e9-aaf8-4512a6fe3439_story.html?noredirect=on)

DinoTriz2
03-13-2019, 08:34 PM
Lisa Page transcripts released - showing massive corruption of the DOJ and FBI involving the Clinton investigation and Russia probe (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/lisa-page-transcripts-reveal-details-of-anti-trump-insurance-policy-concerns-over-full-blown-probe)

DinoTriz2
03-13-2019, 08:42 PM
https://i.imgur.com/eOOAbio_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

DinoTriz2
03-13-2019, 09:19 PM
What would you rather find on the ground, a women's soccer game ticket or a $10 bill?

Irulan
03-13-2019, 09:21 PM
$9 can get me a women's basketball ticket

DinoTriz2
03-13-2019, 09:22 PM
Brian Seltzer of CNN thinks Fox shouldn't be allowed to host a political debate because they criticize politicians like Nancy Pelosi (https://youtu.be/D24eznNiefo)

DinoTriz2
03-13-2019, 09:37 PM
I will stop if Wonkie replies

I Felt Nostalgic
03-13-2019, 10:05 PM
https://i.imgur.com/DKcuYW3.jpg

America
03-13-2019, 10:37 PM
I will stop if Wonkie replies

keep going i am clicking them and feeling, like, a pseudo-social interface from it :D

Caldwin
03-13-2019, 10:57 PM
Could you expand on this point, please?

Democrats support:


Racism against jews and white people

Sharia law

Getting rid of the 1st Amendment

Reeducation camps

Silencing dissent

Socialism

Using political violence


Don't forget about them wanting to get rid of the 2nd amendment... well, the whole constitution if they could. They (along with establishment/RINO Republicans) are trying their hardest to circumvent the constitution as it is.

Obama, along with Pelosi and Reid, did quite a bit of damage to freedom with the so called Affordable Care Act. I call it the non-affordable uncare act. Keep your health plan? Keep your doctor? Lower costs? Yeah, riiiight. :rolleyes:

Obama was supposed to unite the races. Instead, he (along with the other Democrats) left this nation more divided since the 60's.

The leftists in the IRS tried silencing the right by taking away tax exempt status from tea party groups.

And now, AOC and other leftists are talking about a Green New Deal. If fully implemented, it will devastate the economy and send this country into full socialism, if not communism. This is what I was referring to when I said this country as a free nation will be over. If the Democrats get the presidency and enough of congress, there will be nothing stopping them from passing all or some of their agenda. Look how they shoe horned Obama care through congress. :mad::eek:

DinoTriz2
03-13-2019, 11:16 PM
Don't forget about them wanting to get rid of the 2nd amendment... well, the whole constitution if they could. They (along with establishment/RINO Republicans) are trying their hardest to circumvent the constitution as it is.

Obama, along with Pelosi and Reid, did quite a bit of damage to freedom with the so called Affordable Care Act. I call it the non-affordable uncare act. Keep your health plan? Keep your doctor? Lower costs? Yeah, riiiight. :rolleyes:

Obama was supposed to unite the races. Instead, he (along with the other Democrats) left this nation more divided since the 60's.

The leftists in the IRS tried silencing the right by taking away tax exempt status from tea party groups.

And now, AOC and other leftists are talking about a Green New Deal. If fully implemented, it will devastate the economy and send this country into full socialism, if not communism. This is what I was referring to when I said this country as a free nation will be over. If the Democrats get the presidency and enough of congress, there will be nothing stopping them from passing all or some of their agenda. Look how they shoe horned Obama care through congress. :mad::eek:

Also, they brought forth a bill making it illegal to criticize journalists. They're trying to justify it by using female journalists who were trolled online, in their propaganda.

"You don't believe women should be harassed, do you? Then let the state take your rights away for our security."

Disgusting stuff. They're no longer Americans.

Caldwin
03-13-2019, 11:19 PM
I think we can all agree that the first steps are to murder all the aristocrat blue-bloods parading as being on opposing parties while they pass the presidency and control of senate around like a hot potato, then we just need to nuke Israel to settle the national debt and we can work the rest of the details out when the dust settles.

Like I said in another post, we need to get rid of the two party system and elect people as individuals, instead of this back and forth taking of our freedoms.

But, no nuking Isreal. :eek:

misterbonkers
03-13-2019, 11:30 PM
Democrats introduce new bill that makes criticism of journalists illegal. Intimidation, criticism, harassment and insults towards a journalist while they are working would be penalized under the full weight of the law (https://youtu.be/5BDiIyv3hgA)

Violates 1st Amendment, but okay lol

The Journalist Protection Act makes it a federal crime to intentionally cause bodily injury to a journalist affecting interstate or foreign commerce in the course of reporting or in a manner designed to intimidate him or her from newsgathering for a media organization," reads the Tuesday press release. "It represents a clear statement that assaults against people engaged in reporting is unacceptable, and helps ensure law enforcement is able to punish those who interfere with newsgathering.

fake news

it never ceases to amaze me how y'all repeatedly do the exact same shit you hate the media for

Caldwin
03-13-2019, 11:34 PM
Invalid comparison. Leftists are godless athiests.

I may be a godless atheist, but I'm no leftist. I'm a Libertarian. I guess I'm one of those rare atheists that don't mind nativity scenes on government property, or a cross on the side of a road on public land that has been there since WW2. Just as long as the government doesn't pass laws solely based on a specific religion or harass me for being an atheist, I'm cool. :)

And I do call Christmas Christmas, not the Holidays. I enjoy at least the secular aspects, like Christmas lights, exchanging presents with family and friends, watching Christmas shows and movies. I may not believe in the religion, but I like the stories. :D

JurisDictum
03-13-2019, 11:52 PM
I may be a godless atheist, but I'm no leftist. I'm a Libertarian. I guess I'm one of those rare atheists that don't mind nativity scenes on government property, or a cross on the side of a road on public land that has been there since WW2. Just as long as the government doesn't pass laws solely based on a specific religion or harass me for being an atheist, I'm cool. :)

And I do call Christmas Christmas, not the Holidays. I enjoy at least the secular aspects, like Christmas lights, exchanging presents with family and friends, watching Christmas shows and movies. I may not believe in the religion, but I like the stories. :D

How about Israel provoking hatred all over the world and us constantly having to protect them. Does that bother your libertarian sensibilities at all? That we are constantly drug into wars on their behalf, give billions in military aid, and then are called antisemitic the minute we question it?

They are a very expensive ally. They make zero good-faith efforts to stabilize the situation in the middle east, and are constantly grabbing new land.

WTF is going on exactly? Why should care at all about these people? Because we feel bad about the Holocaust? Really?

It's a big fucking club, and you're not in it.

Wonkie
03-14-2019, 12:06 AM
I may be a godless atheist, but I'm no leftist. I'm a Libertarian. I guess I'm one of those rare atheists that don't mind nativity scenes on government property, or a cross on the side of a road on public land that has been there since WW2. Just as long as the government doesn't pass laws solely based on a specific religion or harass me for being an atheist, I'm cool. :)

And I do call Christmas Christmas, not the Holidays. I enjoy at least the secular aspects, like Christmas lights, exchanging presents with family and friends, watching Christmas shows and movies. I may not believe in the religion, but I like the stories. :D

a red helmet is still a red hat

feniin
03-14-2019, 12:12 AM
lol Republican propaganda is hilarious to read

Caldwin
03-14-2019, 12:13 AM
Did Israel make us help them? They are not forcing us to help them. That is our government that is doing that.

In any case, regardless about how I feel about our involvement in the Middle East, I thinks it's way too late. We can't change the past. If we pull back all aid today, I don't think the radical Muslims will say "ok, all's well. We will be at peace with the US from now on." No, I think they'll still be a threat to us, and Israel is the only other ally in the region. I don't like it, but this is reality.

I Felt Nostalgic
03-14-2019, 12:22 AM
Who are the fascists, again?

The Democrats.

Wonkie
03-14-2019, 12:23 AM
where on earth do you think you are quoting these dead gay books

Wonkie
03-14-2019, 12:30 AM
You're going need to convene with your comrades and advise them to dial it back on the antisemitism bro. Their Nazism is showing.

Gay Lenin can do as he likes. He's buffed with a level 9 protego from the Magistress.

JurisDictum
03-14-2019, 12:31 AM
Did Israel make us help them? They are not forcing us to help them. That is our government that is doing that.

In any case, regardless about how I feel about our involvement in the Middle East, I thinks it's way too late. We can't change the past. If we pull back all aid today, I don't think the radical Muslims will say "ok, all's well. We will be at peace with the US from now on." No, I think they'll still be a threat to us, and Israel is the only other ally in the region. I don't like it, but this is reality.

WTF do you think Muslims hate us and "Israel is our only ally in the region?"

They don't force us -- thier another corrupt-ass big money lobby that goes after anyone that says a cross word about them with "antisemitism" charges. In our own country.

The relationship is completely non-beneficial to regular Americans. Even a lot of American Jews are against Israel's basically fascist actions of late.

DinoTriz2
03-14-2019, 06:18 AM
fake news

it never ceases to amaze me how y'all repeatedly do the exact same shit you hate the media for

The "bodily harm" segment is only PART of the law.

It also states critical speech that harrasses or intimidates would be punishable. Which is HUGELY subjective and prone to abuse.

How about read the entire law before cherry picking like a disingenuous piece of shit?

DinoTriz2
03-14-2019, 06:26 AM
https://youtu.be/GYpmeCdCzOU

Cecily
03-14-2019, 08:50 AM
Nazi Germany was led by a man who did tho'.

Translations have been redone the past 15 years because the "superman" denotation was incorrect because the literal translation of "über" is over and not super. Nietzsche did more with the long arc of the changing light through a day as it passes over us is Thus Spoke Zarathustra since the analogical synthesis through that book is a return to Plato's cave.

Yeah I was thinking about that as I hit submit on that one. So Walter Kaufmann got it wrong, huh? My friend really liked him as a translator. And nice... I never considered it in relation to Plato.

Two very different caves. Haven’t read any of this for years, but I guess they really are polar opposites. Isolation = ignorance vs isolation = enlightenment? The idea of going out into the world to become ignorant amuses the hell out of me.

Irulan
03-14-2019, 09:52 AM
I don't wanna ally with Palestine.

Would prefer it if the Jews won completely.

d3r14k
03-14-2019, 09:53 AM
I'm not going to pretend to be able to understand Nietzsche or the translation of Plato, but I think I'm semi qualified to talk about isolation.

I think there is enlightenment of different types to be found in both society and isolation. You can really discover yourself when you step away from civilization. The longest I've ever spent in the wilderness away from any human contact was just under two weeks, but I'll be damned if it didn't help put a lot of my percieved struggles and problems into perspective. This is probably good in moderation, like all things. Humans are social creatures and you don't want to deny yourself of all social interaction for a prolonged period of time. There are people who step away from the hustle and bustle of society for months at a time. I wish I had the financial freedom to be able to experiment with this, but I've got a good job I should probably try to keep.

All in all, if you have the chance to camp in a secluded portion of a national park or a spot off the Ozark trail or something like that for a week or two: do it. Isolation can give you perspective, and I think that is a step towards enlightenment.

America
03-14-2019, 09:55 AM
I'm not going to pretend to be able to understand Nietzsche or the translation of Plato, but I think I'm semi qualified to talk about isolation.

I think there is enlightenment of different types to be found in both society and isolation. You can really discover yourself when you step away from civilization. The longest I've ever spent in the wilderness away from any human contact was just under two weeks, but I'll be damned if it didn't help put a lot of my percieved struggles and problems into perspective. This is probably good in moderation, like all things. Humans are social creatures and you don't want to deny yourself of all social interaction for a prolonged period of time. There are people who step away from the hustle and bustle of society for months at a time. I wish I had the financial freedom to be able to experiment with this, but I've got a good job I should probably try to keep.

All in all, if you have the chance to camp in a secluded portion of a national park or a spot off the Ozark trail or something like that for a week or two: do it. Isolation can give you perspective, and I think that is a step towards enlightenment.

the Ozarks? enjoy your ticks kang flyover

Irulan
03-14-2019, 10:03 AM
Rocky Mountain Ricketts. Will enlighten U.

JurisDictum
03-14-2019, 10:26 AM
I think there is enlightenment of different types to be found in both society and isolation. You can really discover yourself when you step away from civilization.
...I wish I had the financial freedom to be able to experiment with this, but I've got a good job I should probably try to keep.
10709

Mao Zedong went through a 6 year period of "self-study" before moving his life forward after he finished a few years of school and escaped his abusive father's household.

I think he was prone to depressive episodes...but some of that time was probably spent in quite reflection.

Probably not as healthy as you describe. But I do think you need a bit of isolation to become forceful in your ideas. Otherwise you're always subconsciously trying to fit them into what works in your life.

JurisDictum
03-14-2019, 10:37 AM
As the second human to live without sin, you're right. You're totally qualified to judge the nations of the world. My bad, comrade.

WTF is that? Divine command theory?

JurisDictum
03-14-2019, 10:39 AM
Did you brush your teeth before you left your house this morning? Or did the thoughts of committing genocide against the bacterial colonies residing in their rightful place, seated along your gumline abhor you into inaction?

I'll have you know I'm still at home and just woke up 30 mins ago. I live on the west coast it's not even 8 here.

Irulan
03-14-2019, 10:40 AM
As the second human to live without sin, you're right. You're totally qualified to judge the nations of the world. My bad, comrade.

^^

I hear Damascus is really nice for faggits this time of year. /s

Irulan
03-14-2019, 10:40 AM
Did you brush your teeth before you left your house this morning? Or did the thoughts of committing genocide against the bacterial colonies residing in their rightful place, seated along your gumline abhor you into inaction?

:D

JurisDictum
03-14-2019, 10:42 AM
^^

I hear Damascus is really nice for faggits this time of year. /s

You seem a little more balanced lately. New pills? Or is just that you're getting laid more?

Irulan
03-14-2019, 11:20 AM
You seem a little more balanced lately. New pills? Or is just that you're getting laid more?

Getting a lot more human interaction and face time with normies. I am being adored in public. Scrolling thru local profiles I see that I am pretty and elite in presentation.

Narcissism in full swing. :p

JurisDictum
03-14-2019, 12:11 PM
It's a little ironic that you, living on the west coast such as myself, complain about lack of opportunity whilst living in the most opportunity-rich area of the entire country; especially when you consider how much opportunity there is here for the ethnically diverse: your pets.

Cities in general are opportunity rich. Where as suburbs and smaller towns tend to suck if you don't have connections. IDK if it makes a huge difference what state your in for this to be true.

Patriam1066
03-14-2019, 01:07 PM
Cali Oregon and Washington more opportunity than Kansas

Hope that helps

maskedmelon
03-14-2019, 01:10 PM
I'm not going to pretend to be able to understand Nietzsche or the translation of Plato, but I think I'm semi qualified to talk about isolation.

I think there is enlightenment of different types to be found in both society and isolation. You can really discover yourself when you step away from civilization. The longest I've ever spent in the wilderness away from any human contact was just under two weeks, but I'll be damned if it didn't help put a lot of my percieved struggles and problems into perspective. This is probably good in moderation, like all things. Humans are social creatures and you don't want to deny yourself of all social interaction for a prolonged period of time. There are people who step away from the hustle and bustle of society for months at a time. I wish I had the financial freedom to be able to experiment with this, but I've got a good job I should probably try to keep.

All in all, if you have the chance to camp in a secluded portion of a national park or a spot off the Ozark trail or something like that for a week or two: do it. Isolation can give you perspective, and I think that is a step towards enlightenment.

solid advice. shackling one's thoughts to any perspective is the death of not only the mind, but the soul as well.

Cecily
03-14-2019, 01:12 PM
solid advice. shackling one's thoughts to any perspective is the death of not only the mind, but the soul as well.

It really comes down to perspective, and isolation is a good way to facilitate a change in it.

maskedmelon
03-14-2019, 01:12 PM
But I do think you need a bit of isolation to become forceful in your ideas.

something we should all aspire to!

maskedmelon
03-14-2019, 01:15 PM
It really comes down to perspective, and isolation is a good way to facilitate a change in it.

yep, the goal should be maintaining as fluid a perspective as possible and adopting the one that is most balanced in the present. easier said than done to be sure! ^^;

Patriam1066
03-14-2019, 01:31 PM
I'm not going to pretend to be able to understand Nietzsche or the translation of Plato, but I think I'm semi qualified to talk about isolation.

I think there is enlightenment of different types to be found in both society and isolation. You can really discover yourself when you step away from civilization. The longest I've ever spent in the wilderness away from any human contact was just under two weeks, but I'll be damned if it didn't help put a lot of my percieved struggles and problems into perspective. This is probably good in moderation, like all things. Humans are social creatures and you don't want to deny yourself of all social interaction for a prolonged period of time. There are people who step away from the hustle and bustle of society for months at a time. I wish I had the financial freedom to be able to experiment with this, but I've got a good job I should probably try to keep.

All in all, if you have the chance to camp in a secluded portion of a national park or a spot off the Ozark trail or something like that for a week or two: do it. Isolation can give you perspective, and I think that is a step towards enlightenment.

Holy shit a good post in this thread

America
03-14-2019, 01:32 PM
Regarding convictions: "Everybody is wrong all the time"

Irulan
03-14-2019, 01:56 PM
I don't consider myself enlightened. I do see others as inferior however. Particularly when their actions objectively demonstrate their inferiority.

That doesn't give me carte blanc justification for cruelty. It does inform my perspective however.

maskedmelon
03-14-2019, 02:02 PM
Regarding convictions: "Everybody is wrong all the time"

enter quantum convictions....


*fires up eerie midi*

Wonkie
03-14-2019, 05:50 PM
https://i.imgur.com/BgnZomD.png

I Felt Nostalgic
03-14-2019, 05:53 PM
https://i.imgur.com/BgnZomD.png

He will never be POTUS and Keemstar is a racist.

Wonkie
03-14-2019, 06:07 PM
https://i.imgur.com/E4j2aQr.jpg

America
03-14-2019, 06:08 PM
https://i.imgur.com/E4j2aQr.jpg

would be funnier if she specified the race of the father as White

Wonkie
03-14-2019, 06:12 PM
would be funnier if she specified the race of the father as White

https://i.imgur.com/BbnIpHB.jpg

America
03-14-2019, 06:25 PM
^_____^

JurisDictum
03-14-2019, 06:25 PM
In order to prevent my p99 personality devolving into:

10712

I decided to lay off Israel a bit.

I think the big issues the right will never solve is baseline healthcare and education. They seem to avidly against it and I'm not sure why. People need baseline housing, education, healthcare, and food in order to thrive.

This isn't the cave days, none of us individually earned everything we enjoy from being part of an advanced industrial economy. Many of the self-identified libertarians here would probably have to admit they benefited from someone else providing these things for them.

Why get so damn self-righteous about other people getting the same? Were supposed to be a meritocracy right? People should have enough -- if the country can afford it -- so that they can't blame their most life circumstances on bad luck.

So that they can take accountability and buy into the America meritocratic myth. A baseline safety net and a better school-to-work pipeline would probably prevent a lot of wasted talent from my perspective.

America
03-14-2019, 06:41 PM
People should have enough -- if the country can afford it -- so that they can't blame their most life circumstances on bad luck.

"the country can afford" what the market dictates it shall afford. Universal basic income, healthcare etc is an inevitability. It is cheaper & better than extermination, repression or chaos.

When you agitate for Lenin, you are joining the corpus of violence and threatening political instability which drives that market force that dictates we'll eventually buy off the plebs. It's not evil per se, so long as the system is indeed flexible enough that it decides to purchase your civility before it's too late and your ideas start piking up heads. But it's aggressive and it's undignified. it's threatening violence to get what you want.

there is no cause for righteous indignation. we are leaves blowing in the wind my dear. let the process go at its own speed. let the system have its time to flex to the new reality, instead of pushing pushing and risking the big "snap". let people who can't grasp the risk do the agitating, as slowly as possible. I know you are eager to see the inevitable future "capitalism of plenty" (it will be way better than today) but chilllll before you break the damn thing. you, be patient and focus your work on yourself and your nice body.

America
03-14-2019, 06:53 PM
Strawman.

The baby is the original IP. It's canon for the baby to be a girl.

debateable.

wot came first -- the pucci or the nut?

maskedmelon
03-14-2019, 06:58 PM
enter quantum convictions....


*fires up eerie midi*

just wanted to clarify what I meant by this, because I realized my meaning may have been too ambiguous. was just alluding to the fact that for the proposition to be true, it'd have to be false, so you have true and false at once! ^o^

JurisDictum
03-14-2019, 06:58 PM
I'm picturing a gold mine. The gold mine has peasent's paid a living wage mining the gold. Soldiers collecting the gold and keeping order, and the king who gathers all the gold and pays the peasants and soldiers.

You say its the peasent's fault for complaining about the king. But you can just as easily point the blame at the king for underpaying them, or the soldiers for upholding a corrupt system.

Who is actually producing the gold however? Who is actually creating the wealth and not redirecting it? Who is really the most replaceable party in the system?

While the king is managing the operation -- he is certainly collecting more than reward than he produces himself. The peasants however, the peasants are always paid less then they produce...far less.

And that's ok when paying for the expenses of management and order. But not for the surplus. Owning the goldmine is just a mechanism for theft of the actual productive forces.

It seems fair only because those smart enough to understand this want to be king someday.

Wonkie
03-14-2019, 07:02 PM
Strawman.

The baby is the original IP. It's canon for the baby to be a girl.

!!!

debateable.

wot came first -- the pucci or the nut?

hush, ZygoteGeist

America
03-14-2019, 07:04 PM
I'm picturing a gold mine. The gold mine has peasent's paid a living wage mining the gold. Soldiers collecting the gold and keeping order, and the king who gathers all the gold and pays the peasants and soldiers.

You say its the peasent's fault for complaining about the king. But you can just as easily point the blame at the king for underpaying them, or the soldiers for upholding a corrupt system.

Who is actually producing the gold however? Who is actually creating the wealth and not redirecting it? Who is really the most replaceable party in the system?

While the king is managing the operation -- he is certainly collecting more than reward than he produces himself. The peasants however, the peasants are always paid less then they produce...far less.

And that's ok when paying for the expenses of management and order. But not for the surplus. Owning the goldmine is just a mechanism for theft of the actual productive forces.

It seems fair only because those smart enough to understand this want to be king someday.

you're hung up on fairness and blame where there is none.

fact is, there's an optimum level of pay to give the peasants to keep them pacified and to maintain the stratification necessary to keep the gold mine in operation. If the king underpays, he's not "cheating the peasants"; he is flirting with death. If the king overpays, peasants gain the purchasing power to develop microcosms of violent authority and seize the mine. Gangs fight over the mine. Until a group unifies under a stratified hierarchy and dominates. Thereby reattaining the "steady state" of human organization.

there's an optimum and it has nothing to do with cheating or who's fucking who -- except that peons ought to be paid enough not to suffer terribly, grow embittered about those things, and resort to violence. I am not complaining about people's tendency to that type of thinking; I am stating it as a fact and describing it as abstractable into cash money. And I am asking you to try to take in the whole picture instead of rooting yourself in the perspective of the peasant who is angry.

Democracy provides a means to flexibility -- that is, instead of things getting so bad that the system cracks and the king gets burned alive by a mob, we will provide UBI and health care by vote. Just be patient and don't be so mad in the meantime! be meta with me ^^

maskedmelon
03-14-2019, 07:05 PM
In order to prevent my p99 personality devolving into:

10712

I decided to lay off Israel a bit.

I think the big issues the right will never solve is baseline healthcare and education. They seem to avidly against it and I'm not sure why. People need baseline housing, education, healthcare, and food in order to thrive.

This isn't the cave days, none of us individually earned everything we enjoy from being part of an advanced industrial economy. Many of the self-identified libertarians here would probably have to admit they benefited from someone else providing these things for them.

Why get so damn self-righteous about other people getting the same? Were supposed to be a meritocracy right? People should have enough -- if the country can afford it -- so that they can't blame their most life circumstances on bad luck.

So that they can take accountability and buy into the America meritocratic myth. A baseline safety net and a better school-to-work pipeline would probably prevent a lot of wasted talent from my perspective.

my only concern is provision without responsibility. people rot if overwatered. it's a real problem. People don't learn or grow without doing and hardship is an integral component of a meaningful life.

JurisDictum
03-14-2019, 07:16 PM
my only concern is provision without responsibility. people rot if overwatered. it's a real problem. People don't learn or grow without doing and hardship is an integral component of a meaningful life.

Yea its not like anyone ever killed themselves from being unemployed or homeless.:rolleyes:

I also think over-watering is a problem. I just disagree on who is at risk of "over-watering" in this society.

Irulan
03-14-2019, 07:23 PM
I'm embittered but I would rather be pals with my betters than squashed like a nameless attacking ant.

America
03-14-2019, 07:24 PM
I'm embittered but I would rather be pals with my betters than squashed like a nameless attacking ant.

just mate with one. it's not like it's his fault that he won the game. aka why you oughtn't be mad.

leafs in the wind! And the wind is changing *rapidly*.

maskedmelon
03-14-2019, 07:25 PM
Yea its not like anyone ever killed themselves from being unemployed or homeless.:rolleyes:

I also think over-watering is a problem. I just disagree on who is at risk of "over-watering" in this society.

it can occur at any level without discipline and more often than not, you find that lacking in unsuccessful families, as well as the mega rich whose wealth is protected by trust funds, which I think is a problem. everyone should have to work. people become miserable without work.

America
03-14-2019, 07:29 PM
it can occur at any level without discipline and more often than not, you find that lacking in unsuccessful families, as well as the mega rich whose wealth is protected by trust funds, which I think is a problem. everyone should have to work. people become miserable without work.

yep. yep. the squalid states these people fall into, dragging down their families, are pitiable as heck. as bad as poverty. a worse state than the manual laborer who at least has a connection to God and nature and isn't wracked by drugs. it's why the pomp and ceremony, and responsibility, of power are necessary. Endless fortunes behind no-tradition EverQuest playing alcoholics are not a boon.

I wouldn't mind it tho if the work of my life became to present myself pretty and royal in public regularly. :cool:

maskedmelon
03-14-2019, 07:48 PM
yep. yep. the squalid states these people fall into, dragging down their families, are pitiable as heck. as bad as poverty. a worse state than the manual laborer who at least has a connection to God and nature and isn't wracked by drugs. it's why the pomp and ceremony, and responsibility, of power are necessary. Endless fortunes behind no-tradition EverQuest playing alcoholics are not a boon.

I wouldn't mind it tho if the work of my life became to present myself pretty and royal in public regularly. :cool:

I meant rot, failure to develop into a productive human being, can occur at any level. it happens more often at the bottom because it is difficult to acquire the behavioral resources necessary for success if they are not already in the family. money doesn't fix everything.

I liked the last sentence in that first paragraph though lol

Also, your choice of work isn't a bad aspiration either.

America
03-14-2019, 07:59 PM
I meant rot, failure to develop into a productive human being, can occur at any level. it happens more often at the bottom because it is difficult to acquire the behavioral resources necessary for success if they are not already in the family. money doesn't fix everything.

I liked the last sentence in that first paragraph though lol

Also, your choice of work isn't a bad aspiration either.

i got what you meant silly ^^ my post reflects it!~