******Official politics thread ******

[dudette]

music fit for a tacoma bar

[DinoTriz2]

music fit for a tacoma bar

I'm about to take you homa

[zodium]

tramuf

[DinoTriz2]

https://i.imgur.com/T51sIFJ_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[DMN]

https://i.imgur.com/rmpe3Q7.gif tramuf

[feniin]

Please misspell Trump after this post if you are a flaming homosexual
Nice wall!! (https://youtu.be/2LqaeHLPQGA)

Are you okay? Who hurt you?

[Thorondor]

Please misspell Trump after this post if you are a flaming homosexual
Nice wall!! (https://youtu.be/2LqaeHLPQGA)

Their building the wall with Free Recycled Doctor's prescription paper. Nothing to see here.

[DinoTriz2]

Imagine unironically believing Trump is worse than Hitler...

https://i.imgur.com/IF4YD9G_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[Wonkie]

Please misspell Trump after this post if you are a flaming homosexual


https://i.imgur.com/rmpe3Q7.gif

Imagine unironically believing Trump is worse than Hitler...

https://i.imgur.com/rmpe3Q7.gif

[DinoTriz2]

Apparently you don't know what "Triggered" means...

[Wonkie]

I am in a very positive and energetic mood today thanks for your concern Wankie!

trolmp

[DinoTriz2]

trolmp

You're supposed to take the dick out of your mouth before you start talking.

[Wonkie]

You're supposed to take the dick out of your mouth before you start talking.

i would demonitize you, but you already invested in crypto. :cool:

[dudette]

i would demonitize you, but you already invested in crypto. :cool:

owned

can one of you please report me, i want out and i dont want to disrespect daddy gean by posting this pic in server chat

https://i.imgur.com/SjUVPxa.png

[Madbad]

google image search came back as "sea lion"

Edit: Also cowboy boots

[DinoTriz2]

owned

can one of you please report me, i want out and i dont want to disrespect daddy gean by posting this pic in server chat


Reporting you is against my Libertarian religion.

All speech and expression is permitted in my world.

Also, looks like someone laid a hangover log. Had to squint to see a dick.

[DinoTriz2]

i would demonitize you, but you already invested in crypto. :cool:

Exactly. Crypto is decentralized.

You Commies have no power here muahahaha

[Wonkie]

get

[JurisDictum]

Exactly. Crypto is decentralized.

You Commies have no power here muahahaha

Nah. China is going to start buying that all up. And then are are going to take that shit too. It's just not worth the investment quite yet.

[DinoTriz2]

Nah. China is going to start buying that all up. And then are are going to take that shit too. It's just not worth the investment quite yet.

This is quite possibly the stupidest comment that I've ever seen.

Again, wut?

[JurisDictum]

This is quite possibly the stupidest comment that I've ever seen.

Again, wut?

It's not that hard to follow if you have half a brain. Governments routinely collect valuable currencies from all nations. They're called reserves. It's not that difficult to realize they will do the same with crypto if its importance justifies such.

You need to get out of that blazing sunlight once and awhile. I think it's cooking your brain.

[DinoTriz2]

It's not that hard to follow if you have half a brain. Governments routinely collect valuable currencies from all nations. It's not that difficult to realize they will do the same with crypto if its importance justifies such.

You need to get out of that blazing sunlight once and awhile. I think it's cooking your brain.

Lol okay...so your advice is to not invest in a currency yet because China might buy it all up in the future.

Do you not realize how dumb you sound?

I guess I'm not surprised the Socialist doesn't understand economics.

[JurisDictum]

Lol okay...so your advice is to not invest in a currency yet because China might buy it all up in the future.

Do you not realize how dumb you sound?

I guess I'm not surprised the Socialist doesn't understand economics.

I'm saying your entire premise that your precise crypto is in anyway beyond the reach of any kind of government is retarded.

Most of what can be accomplished with crypto can be accomplished with cash only transactions in general. Except for cash isn't going to have a trail for you all to get hammered unexpectedly by taxes once China and Uncle Sam gets wise.

[DinoTriz2]

I'm saying your entire premise that your precise crypto is in anyway beyond the reach of any kind of government is retarded.

Most of what can be accomplished with crypto can be accomplished with cash only transactions in general. Except for cash isn't going to have a trail for you all to get hammered unexpectedly by taxes once China and Uncle Sam gets wise.

Jesus christ, why is everyone retarded when it comes to crypto?

Cool, so why do people use crypto to buy illegal items on the dark web?

Certainly there's a paper trail...

[JurisDictum]

Jesus christ, why is everyone retarded when it comes to crypto?

Cool, so why do people use crypto to buy illegal items on the dark web?

Certainly there's a paper trail...

There will be. Your entire search history is logged by google I might add.

[Wonkie]

There will be. Your entire search history is logged by google I might add.

nuh uh! i turned off the tracking setting!

[Thorondor]

I took Dino's advice and bought 1200$ in BTC when it was at 4200. Sitting on it.

[hobart]

Sorry Elf forum friends. It turns out there might be some science behind why some of you have such stupid opinions. (https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(18)31420-9?_returnURL=https%3A%2F%2Flinkinghub.elsevier.com %2Fretrieve%2Fpii%2FS0960982218314209%3Fshowall%3D true)

[Cecily]

Sorry Elf forum friends. It turns out there might be some science behind why some of you have such stupid opinions. (https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(18)31420-9?_returnURL=https%3A%2F%2Flinkinghub.elsevier.com %2Fretrieve%2Fpii%2FS0960982218314209%3Fshowall%3D true)

I’m pretty far left, but I’m anti-dogmatism / authoritarianism. Guess I’m not a radical, yay. I only read like 10 paragraphs, that study goes on forever but it’s super interesting — thank you. This is probably why I dislike the left almost as much as conservatives.

[Wonkie]

I’m pretty far left, but I’m anti-dogmatism / authoritarianism. Guess I’m not a radical, yay. I only read like 10 paragraphs, that study goes on forever but it’s super interesting — thank you. This is probably why I dislike the left almost as much as conservatives.

when you're charmed by the anti-sjw meme magic :o

[JurisDictum]

I’m pretty far left, but I’m anti-dogmatism / authoritarianism. Guess I’m not a radical, yay. I only read like 10 paragraphs, that study goes on forever but it’s super interesting — thank you. This is probably why I dislike the left almost as much as conservatives.

It's because you entire definition of "left" is given to you by corporate news and rightwing internet trolls. They have convinced you that "left" means you hate white men and want them banned from social media or something.

That's actually a small minority of people with a big corporate microphone called CNN and MSNBC. (or AKA, Comcast and AT&T) They literally represent less than 1% of the population.

Anything that's not white nationalist or free-market magical thinking is basically left atm.

You ever noticed how all these posters that are soooo offended by being considered racist are....you know -- racists. Motivated mostly by anti-immgrant pro-white identity politics.

It's either old line of shit or the one about lassez-faire economics or both. That's entire rightwing in this country. Discluding some old out of it fox viewers that simply think the left are deamons and otherwise don't think that much about actual policy or politics.

But that breed is dying out and being replaced mostly by memeing racists that ironically think they're "against identity politics."

[DinoTriz2]

It's because you entire definition of "left" is given to you by corporate news and rightwing internet trolls. They have convinced you that "left" means you hate white men and want them banned from social media or something.

That's actually a small minority of people with a big corporate microphone called CNN and MSNBC. (or AKA, Comcast and AT&T) They literally represent less than 1% of the population.

Anything that's not white nationalist or free-market magical thinking is basically left atm.

You ever noticed how all these posters that are soooo offended by being considered racist are....you know -- racists. Motivated mostly by anti-immgrant pro-white identity politics.

It's either old line of shit or the one about lassez-faire economics or both. That's entire rightwing in this country. Discluding some old out of it fox viewers that simply think the left are deamons and otherwise don't think that much about actual policy or politics.

But that breed is dying out and being replaced mostly by memeing racists that ironically think they're "against identity politics."

^ Far left

[DinoTriz2]

when you're charmed by the anti-sjw meme magic :o

Notice how the last two leftists tried to tell Cecily that she wasn't thinking correctly and was essentially being brainwashed by others?

Cecily knows what a far leftist is. Don't try to gaslight people.

[Thorondor]

^ Far left

Lol, right? Dude has a catalog of procommunist posts relating his political position to dismantling "income inequality" littered with buzzwords about the patriarchy, the gender pay gap, free healthcare and college, and promotion of socialism in the US and defines that as a centrist position.

Contrarily, "stop trying to dig deeper into my fucking pocket than you already do" is radical right.
Laughable.

Why do you need a free college education, if you "should" get paid just as much as a well educated doctor does, for serving up lattes at starbucks?

[Wonkie]

not an argument!!!!!!!!

[Dwarflord]

if china bought up all the crypto the value and demand would go up

Not that they ever would tho ( its not real money and even chinese people are smart enough to know that )

[DinoTriz2]

if china bought up all the crypto the value and demand would go up

Not that they ever would tho ( its not real money and even chinese people are smart enough to know that )

You just taught the Communist a lesson in economics.

[JurisDictum]

Lol, right? Dude has a catalog of procommunist posts relating his political position to dismantling "income inequality" littered with buzzwords about the patriarchy, the gender pay gap, free healthcare and college, and promotion of socialism in the US and defines that as a centrist position.

Contrarily, "stop trying to dig deeper into my fucking pocket than you already do" is radical right.
Laughable.

Why do you need a free college education, if you "should" get paid just as much as a well educated doctor does, for serving up lattes at starbucks?

Where have i ever talked about "the patriarchy?" or gender pay gap?

Wealth inequality is rising, that's just a fact. The wealth in this country is getting more concentrated. Faster than the economy grows. Facts don't care about your feelings or designs to get ahead of the norm or whatever motivates you to promote policies that serve a small wealth owning minority.

They don't serve all white people, all hard working people or smart people or any of that shit. Just a small group of owners. There are many paths to being a large owner, mostly having to do with investment luck or luck of birth.

And that's what I talk about. You know, the things that are actually happening here in objective reality with wealth and where its heading. Not personal shit, not stories I like to hear. Objective reality.

Which I believe in.

[Wonkie]

the cruelty of it is Pocahontas is the only one laying out detailed policies and why but she's "unelectable" because she took the Sewermans bait

[DinoTriz2]

not an argument!!!!!!!!

You and JD don't even think a "far left" exists.

Far left Progressives make up about 8% of the country.

Moderate leftists outnumber you. A lot of them think you guys take things way too far.

Democrat politicians and corporations cater to you because you infest Twitter and those idiots think Twitter represents America.

[JurisDictum]

You and JD don't even think a "far left" exists.

Far left Progressives make up about 8% of the country.

Moderate leftists outnumber you. A lot of them think you guys take things way too far.

Democrat politicians and corporations cater to you because you infest Twitter and those idiots think Twitter represents America.

Far left Progressive means different things and there is no objective standard for a vague term like that.

Twitter idiots, AT&T and Comcost arn't in the same group as me politically on any issue. Yet somehow you magically lump us together as "far left progressives."

BTW: thanks for affirming my point to Cecily.

[Wonkie]

You and JD don't even think a "far left" exists.

Far left Progressives make up about 8% of the country.

Moderate leftists outnumber you. A lot of them think you guys take things way too far.

Democrat politicians and corporations cater to you because you infest Twitter and those idiots think Twitter represents America.

still not an argument

[dudette]

The wealth in this country is getting more concentrated. Faster than the economy grows.

Not An Argument. There's no reason why wealth might not concentrate on a logarithmic scale. Whether it's linear or not is kinda immaterial.

[JurisDictum]

Not An Argument. There's no reason why wealth might not concentrate on a logarithmic scale. Whether it's linear or not is kinda immaterial.

I wasn't making any argument there. I was accurately asserting that wealth concentration exists in America ATM. That and the pace of wealth concentration is faster than the rate of growth. Which back when conservatives pretended to have an intellectual argument for their policies, was their rationalization for liberal market economies like ours (that growth lifts all boats and its better to maximize that for all groups). In reality, growth can occur while lower classes lose out. Which is what is happening in America.* And has been since around Reagan...hmmmm

* not that the growth is anything to brag about. Other economies that aren't liberal market economies have similar (in some cases far better) rates of growth.

[Cecily]

when you're charmed by the anti-sjw meme magic :o

It's because you entire definition of "left" is given to you by corporate news and rightwing internet trolls. They have convinced you that "left" means you hate white men and want them banned from social media or something.

That's actually a small minority of people with a big corporate microphone called CNN and MSNBC. (or AKA, Comcast and AT&T) They literally represent less than 1% of the population.

Anything that's not white nationalist or free-market magical thinking is basically left atm.

You ever noticed how all these posters that are soooo offended by being considered racist are....you know -- racists. Motivated mostly by anti-immgrant pro-white identity politics.

It's either old line of shit or the one about lassez-faire economics or both. That's entire rightwing in this country. Discluding some old out of it fox viewers that simply think the left are deamons and otherwise don't think that much about actual policy or politics.

But that breed is dying out and being replaced mostly by memeing racists that ironically think they're "against identity politics."

I haven’t read that novel, but I think you both misunderstand me. To reiterate, my opinion the far left is a bunch of cringey spergs who can’t deal with people having their own opinions. Kinda like radical feminists, but people who will lynch me instead for questioning my own pronouns. Neither one of you, afaik, is trans and therefore I don’t think you have my uh “lived experience” of being protected by liberal politics. It’s nice to have people have my back, but I value critical thinking more than herd values.

[JurisDictum]

Reality check: Progessives like me thought Russiagate was bullshit (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvapuwssM8E)

We are represented a somwhat in the Nation Magazine. But mostly from a handful of youtube commentators. Why?

Because corporations like NewsCorp. AT&T, and Comcast, don't like our message or platform getting any airtime.

Ed Shultz was fired for wanting to cover Bernie Sanders. That platform doesn't represent the economic populist left. Which I think is probably a hell of a lot higher than 8%.

[Cecily]

And how the fuck dare you tell me where I got my opinion from. I get my opinion from my language being censored in real life by members of “the community.”

[JurisDictum]

I haven’t read that novel, but I think you both misunderstand me. To reiterate, my opinion the far left is a bunch of cringey spergs who can’t deal with people having their own opinions. Kinda like radical feminists, but people who will lynch me instead for questioning my own pronouns. Neither one of you, afaik, is trans and therefore I don’t think you have my uh “lived experience” of being protected by liberal politics. It’s nice to have people have my back, but I value critical thinking more than herd values.

So you don't like identity politics when it turns dogmatic and authoritarian?

That's most of "the left" just fyi. As Dino more or less just admitted despite his constant posting about "the left" <link unrepresentative example>.

The whole idea this is a big number of people is perpetuated mostly by the alt-right. Who again, LOVE identity politics as long as its white identity politics.

White identity politics is actually a huge part of the problem in this country. It prevents normal workers from uniting around a common platform.

And my argument is that is by design. It's the billionaire media perpetuating issues keep the working class divided and ignoring ones that unite them.

So they call me a communist...

[Cecily]

I want my demographic to have protected access to the benefits of being an American citizen. Protection from employment / housing / healthcare discrimination along with access to public accommodations, which include restrooms, is the extent of my “identity politics” as far as it regards transpeople. I’d also like to not get raped if I go to prison if that’s not asking too much.

I’d also like this to apply to everyone else because human beings deserve nothing less.

[JurisDictum]

And how the fuck dare you tell me where I got my opinion from. I get my opinion from my language being censored in real life by members of “the community.”

I underestimated your RL experience with radical identity authoritarians.

Yea its too bad we have to worry about these weridos opinions because our corporate overlords have decided to use them as a tool to divide normal people.

[Wonkie]

I haven’t read that novel, but I think you both misunderstand me. To reiterate, my opinion the far left is a bunch of cringey spergs who can’t deal with people having their own opinions. Kinda like radical feminists, but people who will lynch me instead for questioning my own pronouns. Neither one of you, afaik, is trans and therefore I don’t think you have my uh “lived experience” of being protected by liberal politics. It’s nice to have people have my back, but I value critical thinking more than herd values.

so how much is this worth to you? to have someone tell you the annoying people are bad? is it worth ur healthcare coverage??

[DinoTriz2]

so how much is this worth to you? to have someone tell you the annoying people are bad? is it worth ur healthcare coverage??

I heard the trains were on time when Mussolini ruled Italy...

[Wonkie]

google 11th commandment cec

[JurisDictum]

Keep in mind, these nutballs that want to get Pakman fired for disagreeing with them (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUPf_UalrYQ), would have a harder time being taken seriously if it weren't for a thriving white nationalist movement in this country ATM.

I blame white nationalist popularity partially for this whole identity authoritarian phenomenon.

[DinoTriz2]

Far left Progressive means different things and there is no objective standard for a vague term like that.

Twitter idiots, AT&T and Comcost arn't in the same group as me politically on any issue. Yet somehow you magically lump us together as "far left progressives."

BTW: thanks for affirming my point to Cecily.

While I agree you seem to be different, as in I don't have you pegged as an identitarian, the economic policies you support are far leftist.

Moderate leftists in this country are still largely liberal and support a free market. Hell even Social Democrats still support a free market.

[dudette]

I haven’t read that novel, but I think you both misunderstand me. To reiterate, my opinion the far left is a bunch of cringey spergs who can’t deal with people having their own opinions. Kinda like radical feminists, but people who will lynch me instead for questioning my own pronouns. Neither one of you, afaik, is trans and therefore I don’t think you have my uh “lived experience” of being protected by liberal politics. It’s nice to have people have my back, but I value critical thinking more than herd values.

And how the fuck dare you tell me where I got my opinion from. I get my opinion from my language being censored in real life by members of “the community.”
you get flak rightly for neurotically questioning your own pronouns in public because we all know why you're really doing it, and ain't nobody want to hear that shit. "What if I'm not a girl and transgenderism is bullshit? Just hypothetically; academic freedom" -> "What if all blacks should be exterminated so that their measurably lower IQ does not permeate the gene pool? Just hypothetically; academic freedom". It's just poor taste pal.

inb4 "strawman", "it's just honest intellectual discussion", "i swear i am not identifying with the bloc who hates me in order to gain a sense of safety and community and have a means to bond with my enemies and and neutralize their hatred", etc

so how much is this worth to you? to have someone tell you the annoying people are bad? is it worth ur healthcare coverage??

[Cecily]

so how much is this worth to you? to have someone tell you the annoying people are bad? is it worth ur healthcare coverage??

The annoying people delegitimize the struggle faced by transwomen like myself. They seem crazy and that crazy sticks on me. I will lose my healthcare because people don’t like enabling crazy people.

[JurisDictum]

While I agree you seem to be different, as in I don't have you pegged as an identitarian, the economic policies you support are far leftist.

Moderate leftists in this country are still largely liberal and support a free market. Hell even Social Democrats still support a free market.

Bernie and those that support him want a country more like Sweden. When I'm in serious -- that's all I'm advocating. It's a capitalist economy over there, just one that includes better workers rights/pay, free healthcare and education for citizens.

Interestingly enough, the moderate left in Sweden hung onto power by admitting they made a mistake on immigration and that it wasn't racist to be worried about immigration.

It's worth noting we have like x4 the immigrants they do -- in yet were supposed to not say a word against it as far as the corporate media defines Democrats or leftists.

I'm convinced Bernie is mostly going along with it because he doesn't want to marked as some old racist white guy. But hopefully something eventually will be done about all of it.

[dudette]

The annoying people delegitimize the struggle faced by transwomen like myself. They seem crazy and that crazy sticks on me. I will lose my healthcare because people don’t like enabling crazy people. I don’t see the crazy in wanting to be a woman — even if it was just a preference it’s my body and my life.

So a Trump presidency is actually advancing trans rights, cuz it keeps the trans people with bad optics down? :rolleyes:

[Wonkie]

The annoying people delegitimize the struggle faced by transwomen like myself. They seem crazy and that crazy sticks on me. I will lose my healthcare because people don’t like enabling crazy people.

divide et impera

[dudette]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Cecily]

you get flak rightly for neurotically questioning your own pronouns in public because we all know why you're really doing it, and ain't nobody want to hear that shit. "What if I'm not a girl and transgenderism is bullshit? Just hypothetically; academic freedom" -> "What if all blacks should be exterminated so that their measurably lower IQ does not permeate the gene pool? Just hypothetically; academic freedom". It's just poor taste pal.

inb4 "strawman", "it's just honest intellectual discussion", "i swear i am not identifying with the bloc who hates me in order to gain a sense of safety and community and have a means to bond with my enemies and and neutralize their hatred", etc

I’m defining what being a woman means to myself. I’m not there yet. Don’t presume to tell me where I am on my spiritual journey.

[dudette]

I’m defining what being a woman means to myself. I’m not there yet. Don’t presume to tell me where I am on my spiritual journey.

That's fine turd but don't get all bent out of shape when you arrive at the "am I just a sex pervert?" question and it's not well-received that you're shouting it publicly.

[DinoTriz2]

Keep in mind, these nutballs that want to get Pakman fired for disagreeing with them (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUPf_UalrYQ), would have a harder time being taken seriously if it weren't for a thriving white nationalist movement in this country ATM.

I blame white nationalist popularity partially for this whole identity authoritarian phenomenon.

Wow, I normally hate David Pakman with every fiber of my being but he actually earned my respect with this.

Imo, Leftists need to hit back against the hardline identitarians.

But no dude, the white nationalists are a response to these leftist identitarians. Why else do you think they hover around "white genocide" and "You will not replace us".

Those two far right memes are defensive in nature.

The leftist intersectionality stuff has been around since like 2012 and expanded with GamerGate in 2014ish

[dudette]

zese panzers ein fuere defensenmicht

[Cecily]

divide et impera

I don’t like them. I think they represent us poorly. You know, like Trump?

You guys are proving my point. I’m vaguely hinting at dissenting against some elements under the trans umbrella community fund raiser bbq for the cure for breast cancer, and you’re all over my shit and assuming why I think like I do.

Please downregulate media influence in your life. It isn’t healthy for anyone.

[Thorondor]

The whole idea this is a big number of people is perpetuated mostly by the alt-right. Who again, LOVE identity politics as long as its white identity politics.

White identity politics is actually a huge part of the problem in this country. It prevents normal workers from uniting around a common platform.


Denies the widespread usage of identity politics by the left out of one side of his mouth.


Uses identity politics to explain and blame the right out of the other side. Orwellian doublespeak.


The smrt ones.

[Wonkie]

no we're not

dogpiles �� are for love

[dudette]

I don’t like them. I think they represent us poorly. You know, like Trump?

You guys are proving my point. I’m vaguely hinting at dissenting against some elements under the trans umbrella community fund raiser bbq for the cure for breast cancer, and you’re all over my shit and assuming why I think like I do.

Please downregulate media influence in your life. It isn’t healthy for anyone.

You're not "vaguely hinting", sis. This exchange doesn't exist in a vacuum. You're a neurotic contrarian goober who went through a "terf phase" while *crunching hormone pills*, so when you show up whining about ill-received contrarianism you get poked. There is a weird emotional energy underlying your acting-out that gets detected by observers. PS it is hard to imagine being less media influenced than I am, should I stop watching seinfeld reruns? PPS that's a nice lgtbbq meme, where'dja get it?

[DinoTriz2]

I don’t like them. I think they represent us poorly. You know, like Trump?

You guys are proving my point. I’m vaguely hinting at dissenting against some elements under the trans umbrella community fund raiser bbq for the cure for breast cancer, and you’re all over my shit and assuming why I think like I do.

Please downregulate media influence in your life. It isn’t healthy for anyone.

Cecily, you MUST choose a failed, murderous, ideology.

The Nazis or the Commies.

Red or Blue.

Thinking for yourself will NOT be tolerated.

Just kidding, listen to your gut, not to us.

[Thorondor]

Bernie and those that support him want a country more like Sweden. When I'm in serious -- that's all I'm advocating. It's a capitalist economy over there, just one that includes better workers rights/pay, free healthcare and education for citizens.

Interestingly enough, the moderate left in Sweden hung onto power by admitting they made a mistake on immigration and that it wasn't racist to be worried about immigration.

It's worth noting we have like x4 the immigrants they do -- in yet were supposed to not say a word against it as far as the corporate media defines Democrats or leftists.

I'm convinced Bernie is mostly going along with it because he doesn't want to marked as some old racist white guy. But hopefully something eventually will be done about all of it.

Bernie wants a country more like the racially homogenous sweden?

Bernie praises communist cuba.

Bernie praises communist ussr.

[Cecily]

That's fine turd but don't get all bent out of shape when you arrive at the "am I just a sex pervert?" question and it's not well-received that you're shouting it publicly.

I’m past that phase by a decade or so. I’m striving for a higher level of thinking, which you get to by asking yourself actual hard questions like what does it mean to feel like a woman? That’s out of the TERF playbook (I came to the same idea independently), but if you haven’t pondered that and had that philosophical question fucking you up along with other ones, I don’t think you’ve done the necessary introspection for being a woman.

[dudette]

I’m past that phase by a decade or so. I’m striving for a higher level of thinking.

[Thorondor]

And my argument is that is by design. It's the billionaire media perpetuating issues keep the working class divided and ignoring ones that unite them.

So they call me a communist...


My argument is that in the past 12 years taxes on the nonwealthy lower lowermiddle and middle class have increased substanitally as socialist policies advertised as an improvement to the economic conditions of the lower lowermiddle and middle class have been enacted IN REALITY.

I dont want anymore wellintended assfuckings. Fuck off!

[dudette]

if you haven’t pondered that and had that question fucking you up I don’t think you’ve done the necessary introspection for [i]being[/] a woman.

sweet thanks for questioning my validity. Turd. I woooonder why your polite speech is being suppressed?

The answer to the question, btw, is that you know it when you feel it. You'll get there. Until then consider relaxing (maybe lay off the speed; the female headspace isn't supposed to be all aggro all the time. Might be stunting the emotional growth that is needed.)

[DinoTriz2]

I woooonder why your polite speech is being suppressed

Because she questions the religion.

Pretty simple.

[dudette]

Because she questions the religion.

Pretty simple.

She actually does have emotional problems and your egging her on actually does inflict meaningful damage.

[JurisDictum]

Denies the widespread usage of identity politics by the left out of one side of his mouth.


Uses identity politics to explain and blame the right out of the other side. Orwellian doublespeak.


The smrt ones.

I don't like what can be called authoritarian identity politics. You can call the move to legalize marriage of gay people "identity politics" but it really was not all that problematic.

Now if there is some gay mafia that thinks its wrong for any hetero to criticize Peter Butt, we have a problem.

Not that the LGBT community seems all that militant and dangerous to me... Honestly its the god damn feminists that are out of control ATM IMO.

[Wonkie]

My argument is that in the past 12 years taxes on the nonwealthy lower lowermiddle and middle class have increased substanitally as socialist policies advertised as an improvement to the economic conditions of the lower lowermiddle and middle class have been enacted IN REALITY.

I dont want anymore wellintended assfuckings. Fuck off!

such as

[Cecily]

sweet thanks for questioning my validity. Turd. I woooonder why your polite speech is being suppressed?

The answer to the question, btw, is that you know it when you feel it. You'll get there. Until then consider not behaving as a raging speed-pumped asshole.

You in the general sense of the word, not you. That’s a question that breaks people’s minds and I would never wish that on you. I’m seeing how far I can take my mind and I’m going to depths of my soul for answers to questions like: what being a woman means to me and how do I live that with authenticity?

Or I could put on some makeup and scream at everyone in a baritone to call me she.

[JurisDictum]

Bernie wants a country more like the racially homogenous sweden?

Bernie praises communist cuba.

Bernie praises communist ussr.

That's just talking point BS. Bernie is actively, right now, saying he wants to make the country more like Sweden.

And the counter argument is:

1) Bernie is lying, take a look at this clip saying he think breadlines are better than starvation!!!

2) We can't be like Sweden because there are black and brown people here.

Both stupid arguments. Which is why he is probably going to win despite a hostile media that pretends we want Joe Biden.

[DinoTriz2]

She actually does have emotional problems and your egging her on actually does inflict meaningful damage.

Yeah? Are you her fucking doctor?

Thought so.

Cecily, fuck these people. Be you.

[dudette]

You in the general sense of the word, not you. That’s a question that breaks people’s minds and I would never wish that on you. I’m seeing how far I can take my mind and I’m going to depths of my soul for answers to questions like what being a woman means to me and how do I live that with authenticity.

Or I could put on some makeup and scream at everyone in a baritone to call me she.

I asked myself the question and remembered how it felt when I looked at myself in the mirror last night and my face morphed to the male interpretation for the first time in weeks. "Yeah, feeling like a woman feels like not-that."

You're going to need some pretty damn sophisticated language and pseudophilosophy to capture that feeling lyrically. Kind of like singing the brown note, or writing the symphony that triggers the end of the universe. I would recommend you focus on learning the makeup instead actually, and voice. You know -- doing the transition, instead of self-mutilating. It doesn't actually take particularly complex thinking to take female sex hormones to change brain and body, change your lifestyle and experience womanhood.

[Wonkie]

Yeah? Are you her fucking doctor?

Thought so.

Cecily, fuck these people. Be you.

balls to that. you can still be you and not sell your people to mitch. you're an identitarian either way btw its a nothing word

[Cecily]

balls to that. you can still be you and not sell your people to mitch. you're an identitarian either way btw its a nothing word

Are you telling me who my people are now? Do I get a say?

[Cecily]

She actually does have emotional problems and your egging her on actually does inflict meaningful damage.

That’s literally gas lighting.

Do not fucking start with me. It’s not hard to shatter your ego.

[Dwarflord]

I asked myself the question and remembered how it felt when I looked at myself in the mirror last night and my face morphed to the male interpretation for the first time in weeks. "Yeah, feeling like a woman feels like not-that."

You're going to need some pretty damn sophisticated language and pseudophilosophy to capture that feeling lyrically. Kind of like singing the brown note, or writing the symphony that triggers the end of the universe. I would recommend you focus on learning the makeup instead actually, and voice. You know -- doing the transition, instead of self-mutilating. It doesn't actually take particularly complex thinking to take female sex hormones to change brain and body, change your lifestyle and experience womanhood.

oh nice, america or morpheus?

[Wonkie]

Are you telling me who my people are now? Do I get a say?

im talking about voting, so yes you do.

[dudette]

That’s literally gas lighting.

Do not fucking start with me. It’s not hard to shatter your ego.

I am literally calling out Dino's gaslighting of you. He's a troll.

[Cecily]

He’s a libertarian like myself. The issue here is you, my friends, thinking for me and my poor little brain just can’t handle that.

[JurisDictum]

He’s a libertarian like myself.

Aren't you getting government money to go to school?

Fuckin' libertarians man.

[Cecily]

No. I do owe the feds 30 grand I’m not paying back though. I don’t mean that as political party. I mean more of a fuck you I won’t do what you tell me attitude. I’m not a herd mentality person. I think for myself and arrive at my own conclusions, regardless of who it pisses off. Sorry.

[dudette]

He’s a libertarian like myself.

Maybe. I try to believe he's insincere, since he squirms away and pretends it's all a joke when you press him on any point whatsoever. But he might actually be that small of a person too :o nice ally either way and would you look at that, he's standing contrary to the majority!

[dudette]

ok its like really bad for my nerve problemo to post here so im going to go put black dick on server chat and try not to return. I will be available thru the other channels.

[Wonkie]

No. I do owe the feds 30 grand I’m not paying back though. I don’t mean that as political party. I mean more of a fuck you I won’t do what you tell me attitude. I’m not a herd mentality person. I think for myself and arrive at my own conclusions, regardless of who it pisses off. Sorry.

powerful argument.

[Wonkie]

ok its like really bad for my nerve problemo to post here so im going to go put black dick on server chat and try not to return. I will be available thru the other channels.

enjoy the horny vulcan ! :)

[JurisDictum]

No. I do owe the feds 30 grand I’m not paying back though. I don’t mean that as political party. I mean more of a fuck you I won’t do what you tell me attitude. I’m not a herd mentality person. I think for myself and arrive at my own conclusions, regardless of who it pisses off. Sorry.

You should vote for Bernie Sanders if you don't want those wages garnished at some point for that loan.

Hes not a libertarian though. Hate to break it to you.

[dudette]

No. I do owe the feds 30 grand I’m not paying back though. I don’t mean that as political party. I mean more of a fuck you I won’t do what you tell me attitude. I’m not a herd mentality person. I think for myself and arrive at my own conclusions, regardless of who it pisses off. Sorry.

https://youtu.be/CYwzW2QFnwo?t=412

[Cecily]

powerful argument.

Radical leftists are retarded, I’m sorry. If it makes you feel better I’m still pro-choice and anti-capitalism.

[Cecily]

https://youtu.be/CYwzW2QFnwo?t=412

Laughed. The acoustic version just isn’t the same.

[Thorondor]

such as

If you like your insurance, you can keep it (for 10x the costs)

Obamacare bronze plan is equivelent to the umbrella policies offered by blue shield in the early 2000s for 35/month.

It costs 317$ now.

Comprehensive hmo plans were 178$/ month. Theyre over 400$ now.

Employer payroll tax of 9.5% on top of federal taxes suppress employee wages.

Estate tax.

Do you really wabt to play the disingenuous retard again?

[Wonkie]

Estate tax.


yo Spock, alley-oop

[JurisDictum]

If you like your insurance, you can keep it (for 10x the costs)

Obamacare bronze plan is equivelent to the umbrella policies offered by blue shield in the early 2000s for 35/month.

It costs 317$ now.

Comprehensive hmo plans were 178$/ month. Theyre over 400$ now.

Employer payroll tax of 9.5% on top of federal taxes suppress employee wages.

Estate tax.

Do you really wabt to play the disingenuous retard again?

This is why no one should vote for Joe Biden or Donald -- I'm not going to shit about healthcare -- Trump.

[Cecily]

You should vote for Bernie Sanders if you don't want those wages garnished at some point for that loan.

Hes not a libertarian though. Hate to break it to you.

I’m voting for him. Like I told you people*, I’m far left.

[JurisDictum]

Everyone is going to vote for him and the media is going to be shitting its pants and covering up whatever rigging mechanism they got set up for it.

It honestly depends on how brazen elites are this time around. He might actually get blocked from DNC election again.

[Cecily]

now i see why you brought up prison rape

Debtor’s prison is unconstitutional. I’ll pay it back when I have the means to, but for now it’s me gracefully accepting the things I can’t change.

[JurisDictum]

dont you remember when bernie sanders sold out last time?

Ahh that's purity politics. Can't be a purist like that and ever get elected. Nothing is perfect.

[Wonkie]

I’m voting for him. Like I told you people*, I’m far left.

do you live in a swing state

[DinoTriz2]

do you live in a swing state

You gonna tell her who to vote for now?

[Cecily]

trump has actually treated the homos and all that much better than any president ever. just sayin.

Aha.

[Wonkie]

You gonna tell her who to vote for now?

im gonna tell her who will butter her bread

im not gonna make her eat it

[Wonkie]

trump has actually treated the homos and all that much better than any president ever. just sayin.

trump legalized gay marriage??

[JurisDictum]

I am not voting for Joe Biden under any circumstances. And I know I'm not the only one. We can't keep getting fucked by "voting the lesser of two evils." If you can even call voting Biden instead of Trump that.

This assinine band-wagoning tradition in American politics needs to come to an end. And I think it will because the working class is not as complacent as it was in elections past.

[Cecily]

trump legalized gay marriage??

He loves the gays because he hasn’t criminalized it yet.

[Wonkie]

why do married people get tax breaks?

[Cecily]

bet you didnt think you'd ever see an actual nazi that literally loves actually gay homosexes and etc sexes all type of sexes

Right?

[Cecily]

I’m just gonna make a lot of money and not have kids.

[Cecily]

you will pay tons of taxes then unless you are "creative"

As long as it’s funding socialism that’s fine. I’m not money motivated at all. I’m trying to be a healer for healing’s sake. It’s just a well compensated profession.

[Wonkie]

are you too dumb to figure out the scam? @Wankie

https://i.imgur.com/vMUxu7V_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[Cecily]

You are a higher being and passed the test of righteousness. congrats. now time to go get rich and have the gov take it all even though you already owe them and don't pay.

Yeah I’m a bum :(

I’ll be out of default this or next year and paying it that point forward. Had a little dark of the soul the past decade and it’s about time for me to grow up and use that experience to do some good.

Plus once I’m out of default I can get more free money.

[Thorondor]

why do married people get tax breaks?

umm hate to break it to you, but there are a large number of people that are getting "married" outside of the eyes of the law, claiming unknown on the childrens birth certificates, and then claiming single parent benefits to avoid the financial implications that uniting incomes in the eyes of the law entails bud.

They're amongst the "pets" you swaddle yourselves in, so you'd hardpressed to get any kind of support in eliminating that little "loophole" ;)

[Wonkie]

umm hate to break it to you, but there are a large number of people that are getting "married" outside of the eyes of the law, claiming unknown on the childrens birth certificates, and then claiming single parent benefits to avoid the financial implications that uniting incomes in the eyes of the law entails bud.

They're amongst the "pets" you swaddle yourselves in, so you'd hardpressed to get any kind of support in eliminating that little "loophole" ;)

isn't that allowed for the same reason?

[DinoTriz2]

I'm bored. I think I want to join the Proud Boys.

https://i.imgur.com/LvzXv40_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[Thorondor]

isn't that allowed for the same reason?

Its not "allowed" but short of forcing a DNA test upon a presumptive union its impossible to prove that they knowingly comitted felony fraud by conspiring to lie about the parentage on the birth certificate then there are a slew of additional civil and criminal charges that presumably follow the initial crime when the state's coffers are drained by collecting benefits under false pretenses, but if shorty's down to game the system with you then whats really hood?

[Wonkie]

Its not "allowed" but short of forcing a DNA test upon a presumptive union its impossible to prove that they knowingly comitted felony fraud by conspiring to lie about the parentage on the birth certificate then there are a slew of additional civil and criminal charges that presumably follow the initial crime when the state's coffers are drained by collecting benefits under false pretenses, but if shorty's down to game the system with you then whats really hood?

that pesky 4th amendment!

[Thorondor]

With all the power the left seeks to relegate to the govt, Id imagine some time down the road the government will institute a mandatory DNA registry upon the populace, especially if unknown bastard lineage gaming the system continues to rise.

[Wonkie]

With all the power the left seeks to relegate to the govt, Id imagine some time down the road the government will institute a mandatory DNA registry upon the populace, especially if unknown bastard lineage gaming the system continues to rise.

imagine whatever you like, the constitution still exists

[Thorondor]

Which arrangement is more advantageous, though? A minor increase to rhe standardized deduction in an economic environment that, essentially, requires a 2income household, or a 1income household that provides free healthcare food and housing benefits, a stay at home parent, and the freedom for that 1 income to scale to infinity without reduction in said benefits, or less than 1,000$ in decreased tax liability, and a 1000$ tax credit, c
With exprbinant childcare, and family healthcare costs made inflationary AND mandatory by the state to offset the increasing costs of the former?

IMO, those women willing to game the system at the risk of daddy possibly leaving the home scottfree in the future are making a better calculated decision then all these hoes looking to turn their self sacrificing husband into an atm for a few years so they can catch a stray cock from time to time without reprecussion, but what do i know?

We should Feniin's feedback on this one.

[Wonkie]

Which arrangement is more advantageous, though? A minor increase to rhe standardized deduction in an economic environment that, essentially, requires a 2income household, or a 1income household that provides free healthcare food and housing benefits, a stay at home parent, and the freedom for that 1 income to scale to infinity without reduction in said benefits, or less than 1,000$ in decreased tax liability, and a 1000$ tax credit, c
With exprbinant childcare, and family healthcare costs made inflationary AND mandatory by the state to offset the increasing costs of the former?

IMO, those women willing to game the system at the risk of daddy possibly leaving the home scottfree in the future are making a better calculated decision then all these hoes looking to turn their self sacrificing husband into an atm for a few years so they can catch a stray cock from time to time without reprecussion, but what do i know?

We should Feniin's feedback on this one.

it's racism all the way down Yertle

[Thorondor]

imagine whatever you like, the constitution still exists

Not if you had your way with it. Ultimately, this little giveaway is all just a preamble to the clamp down your masters seek to impose on all of us once theyve finished wiping their ass with it, with your enthusiastic permission.

[DinoTriz2]

https://i.imgur.com/PSYU69a_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[Thorondor]

it's racism all the way down Yertle

Racidm? Its a compliment to their adaptability, bro.

Not an unclever response with a sub-80 IQ, i would add.

[Wonkie]

Not if you had your way with it. Ultimately, this little giveaway is all just a preamble to the clamp down your masters seek to impose on all of us once theyve finished wiping their ass with it, with your enthusiastic permission.

the red team was very close to calling a convention. AOC and the other progressives stopped them buttcold.

you're goddamn welcome

[Thorondor]

Just sayin, as a straight white male, and all that alledgedly entails in todays world, if i were really into holding the rest of you down like i am presumed to be doing, i would develop a system of dependency that lured you into complacency then once i had you all exploiting it and relinquishing your freedoms to me, i would fix the bug, and trap all of you underneath me through your own desires.

[DinoTriz2]

Did you think the Left would stop at banning Conservatives? Lol

Now activists are targeting "Angry gamers" on YouTube because they are negative and promote toxic masculinity. Now being negative is against the Church's rules. Soon they're going to start targeting themselves. (https://youtu.be/gGfMctfgkEU)

[Cecily]

Just sayin, as a straight white male, and all that alledgedly entails in todays world, if i were really into holding the rest of you down like i am presumed to be doing, i would develop a system of dependency that lured you into complacency then once i had you all exploiting it and relinquishing your freedoms to me, i would fix the bug, and trap all of you underneath me through your own desires.

Yeah, yeah. Hurry up and make me immortal with your dark embrace, vampire.

[DMN]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/07/politics/joe-biden-hyde-amendment-reversal/index.html

Ah, the democrats vaunted "big tent". Too bad it's filled with mindless zombies.

[Thorondor]

Yeah, yeah. Hurry up and make me immortal with your dark embrace, vampire.

And the alternative? I'm holding you all down by being born of parents who are white......makes much more sense, actually. That passively existential oppression.

[Patriam1066]

Samuel Little and Bill Cosby are both black

Food for thought. Dale Earnhardt Jr

[zodium]

ttomp

[DinoTriz2]

SJW hellhole Oberlin College LOSES lawsuit, owes $11 million (possibly more) to Gibson's Bakery. Being violent authoritarians is expensive it appears (https://nypost.com/2019/06/07/oberlin-college-fined-11m-in-bakery-racial-profiling-case/)

[DinoTriz2]

https://i.imgur.com/jvEsaZh_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[DinoTriz2]

https://i.imgur.com/DQN3Bq4_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[Dwarflord]

looks like a cool and normal guy

not sex deprived at all

[DMN]

https://i.imgur.com/hBrTgcD.jpg ttomp

[Wonkie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4zw99VsoMA

yup

[zodium]

tre;mp

[DinoTriz2]

Zlarn

[DinoTriz2]

The anti-Trump journalist who was arrested for soliciting sex with children apparently hated Amber Alerts. Sounds about right.

https://i.imgur.com/D4MwEKS_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[DinoTriz2]

This reminds me of how they taught about the witch killings in public school and how it was so sad they killed witches without a fair trial. Maybe they were just obvious satanists know what i mean. If it smells like shit it is probably shit.

Fair trials and due process are white supremacist lies now.

[Thorondor]

Fair trials and due process are white supremacist lies now.

"Alledgedly"

[bilirubin]

We stand for active ideological struggle because it is the weapon for ensuring unity within the Party and the revolutionary organizations in the interest of our fight. Every Communist and revolutionary should take up this weapon.

But liberalism rejects ideological struggle and stands for unprincipled peace, thus giving rise to a decadent, Philistine attitude and bringing about political degeneration in certain units and individuals in the Party and the revolutionary organizations.

Liberalism manifests itself in various ways.

To let things slide for the sake of peace and friendship when a person has clearly gone wrong, and refrain from principled argument because he is an old acquaintance, a fellow townsman, a schoolmate, a close friend, a loved one, an old colleague or old subordinate. Or to touch on the matter lightly instead of going into it thoroughly, so as to keep on good terms. The result is that both the organization and the individual are harmed. This is one type of liberalism.

To indulge in irresponsible criticism in private instead of actively putting forward one's suggestions to the organization. To say nothing to people to their faces but to gossip behind their backs, or to say nothing at a meeting but to gossip afterwards. To show no regard at all for the principles of collective life but to follow one's own inclination. This is a second type.

To let things drift if they do not affect one personally; to say as little as possible while knowing perfectly well what is wrong, to be worldly wise and play safe and seek only to avoid blame. This is a third type.

Not to obey orders but to give pride of place to one's own opinions. To demand special consideration from the organization but to reject its discipline. This is a fourth type.

To indulge in personal attacks, pick quarrels, vent personal spite or seek revenge instead of entering into an argument and struggling against incorrect views for the sake of unity or progress or getting the work done properly. This is a fifth type.

To hear incorrect views without rebutting them and even to hear counter-revolutionary remarks without reporting them, but instead to take them calmly as if nothing had happened. This is a sixth type.

To be among the masses and fail to conduct propaganda and agitation or speak at meetings or conduct investigations and inquiries among them, and instead to be indifferent to them and show no concern for their well-being, forgetting that one is a Communist and behaving as if one were an ordinary non-Communist. This is a seventh type.

To see someone harming the interests of the masses and yet not feel indignant, or dissuade or stop him or reason with him, but to allow him to continue. This is an eighth type.

To work half-heartedly without a definite plan or direction; to work perfunctorily and muddle along--"So long as one remains a monk, one goes on tolling the bell." This is a ninth type.

To regard oneself as having rendered great service to the revolution, to pride oneself on being a veteran, to disdain minor assignments while being quite unequal to major tasks, to be slipshod in work and slack in study. This is a tenth type.

To be aware of one's own mistakes and yet make no attempt to correct them, taking a liberal attitude towards oneself. This is an eleventh type.

We could name more. But these eleven are the principal types.

They are all manifestations of liberalism.

Liberalism is extremely harmful in a revolutionary collective. It is a corrosive which eats away unity, undermines cohesion, causes apathy and creates dissension. It robs the revolutionary ranks of compact organization and strict discipline, prevents policies from being carried through and alienates the Party organizations from the masses which the Party leads. It is an extremely bad tendency.

Liberalism stems from petty-bourgeois selfishness, it places personal interests first and the interests of the revolution second, and this gives rise to ideological, political and organizational liberalism.

People who are liberals look upon the principles of Marxism as abstract dogma. They approve of Marxism, but are not prepared to practice it or to practice it in full; they are not prepared to replace their liberalism by Marxism. These people have their Marxism, but they have their liberalism as well--they talk Marxism but practice liberalism; they apply Marxism to others but liberalism to themselves. They keep both kinds of goods in stock and find a use for each. This is how the minds of certain people work.

Liberalism is a manifestation of opportunism and conflicts fundamentally with Marxism. It is negative and objectively has the effect of helping the enemy; that is why the enemy welcomes its preservation in our midst. Such being its nature, there should be no place for it in the ranks of the revolution.

We must use Marxism, which is positive in spirit, to overcome liberalism, which is negative. A Communist should have largeness of mind and he should be staunch and active, looking upon the interests of the revolution as his very life and subordinating his personal interests to those of the revolution; always and everywhere he should adhere to principle and wage a tireless struggle against all incorrect ideas and actions, so as to consolidate the collective life of the Party and strengthen the ties between the Party and the masses; he should be more concerned about the Party and the masses than about any private person, and more concerned about others than about himself. Only thus can he be considered a Communist.

All loyal, honest, active and upright Communists must unite to oppose the liberal tendencies shown by certain people among us, and set them on the right path. This is one of the tasks on our ideological front.

[DinoTriz2]

COMMIES RIZE UP

[Wonkie]

We stand for active ideological struggle because it is the weapon for ensuring unity within the Party and the revolutionary organizations in the interest of our fight. Every Communist and revolutionary should take up this weapon.

But liberalism rejects ideological struggle and stands for unprincipled peace, thus giving rise to a decadent, Philistine attitude and bringing about political degeneration in certain units and individuals in the Party and the revolutionary organizations.

Liberalism manifests itself in various ways.

To let things slide for the sake of peace and friendship when a person has clearly gone wrong, and refrain from principled argument because he is an old acquaintance, a fellow townsman, a schoolmate, a close friend, a loved one, an old colleague or old subordinate. Or to touch on the matter lightly instead of going into it thoroughly, so as to keep on good terms. The result is that both the organization and the individual are harmed. This is one type of liberalism.

To indulge in irresponsible criticism in private instead of actively putting forward one's suggestions to the organization. To say nothing to people to their faces but to gossip behind their backs, or to say nothing at a meeting but to gossip afterwards. To show no regard at all for the principles of collective life but to follow one's own inclination. This is a second type.

To let things drift if they do not affect one personally; to say as little as possible while knowing perfectly well what is wrong, to be worldly wise and play safe and seek only to avoid blame. This is a third type.

Not to obey orders but to give pride of place to one's own opinions. To demand special consideration from the organization but to reject its discipline. This is a fourth type.

To indulge in personal attacks, pick quarrels, vent personal spite or seek revenge instead of entering into an argument and struggling against incorrect views for the sake of unity or progress or getting the work done properly. This is a fifth type.

To hear incorrect views without rebutting them and even to hear counter-revolutionary remarks without reporting them, but instead to take them calmly as if nothing had happened. This is a sixth type.

To be among the masses and fail to conduct propaganda and agitation or speak at meetings or conduct investigations and inquiries among them, and instead to be indifferent to them and show no concern for their well-being, forgetting that one is a Communist and behaving as if one were an ordinary non-Communist. This is a seventh type.

To see someone harming the interests of the masses and yet not feel indignant, or dissuade or stop him or reason with him, but to allow him to continue. This is an eighth type.

To work half-heartedly without a definite plan or direction; to work perfunctorily and muddle along--"So long as one remains a monk, one goes on tolling the bell." This is a ninth type.

To regard oneself as having rendered great service to the revolution, to pride oneself on being a veteran, to disdain minor assignments while being quite unequal to major tasks, to be slipshod in work and slack in study. This is a tenth type.

To be aware of one's own mistakes and yet make no attempt to correct them, taking a liberal attitude towards oneself. This is an eleventh type.

We could name more. But these eleven are the principal types.

They are all manifestations of liberalism.

Liberalism is extremely harmful in a revolutionary collective. It is a corrosive which eats away unity, undermines cohesion, causes apathy and creates dissension. It robs the revolutionary ranks of compact organization and strict discipline, prevents policies from being carried through and alienates the Party organizations from the masses which the Party leads. It is an extremely bad tendency.

Liberalism stems from petty-bourgeois selfishness, it places personal interests first and the interests of the revolution second, and this gives rise to ideological, political and organizational liberalism.

People who are liberals look upon the principles of Marxism as abstract dogma. They approve of Marxism, but are not prepared to practice it or to practice it in full; they are not prepared to replace their liberalism by Marxism. These people have their Marxism, but they have their liberalism as well--they talk Marxism but practice liberalism; they apply Marxism to others but liberalism to themselves. They keep both kinds of goods in stock and find a use for each. This is how the minds of certain people work.

Liberalism is a manifestation of opportunism and conflicts fundamentally with Marxism. It is negative and objectively has the effect of helping the enemy; that is why the enemy welcomes its preservation in our midst. Such being its nature, there should be no place for it in the ranks of the revolution.

We must use Marxism, which is positive in spirit, to overcome liberalism, which is negative. A Communist should have largeness of mind and he should be staunch and active, looking upon the interests of the revolution as his very life and subordinating his personal interests to those of the revolution; always and everywhere he should adhere to principle and wage a tireless struggle against all incorrect ideas and actions, so as to consolidate the collective life of the Party and strengthen the ties between the Party and the masses; he should be more concerned about the Party and the masses than about any private person, and more concerned about others than about himself. Only thus can he be considered a Communist.

All loyal, honest, active and upright Communists must unite to oppose the liberal tendencies shown by certain people among us, and set them on the right path. This is one of the tasks on our ideological front.

didn't read

[Dwarflord]

i didnt read that huge post but i bet the guy who typed it is unemployed

[JurisDictum]

i didnt read that huge post but i bet the guy who typed it is unemployed

Mao wrote that

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_03.htm

Old time Leninist-Marxists are not liberals. This was a lie our government told you. The one time skepticism in the government line could help conservatives out, instead they lap that shit up like cool aid.

[Wonkie]

https://i.imgur.com/6Jl9yi9.jpg

[DinoTriz2]

Piss tapes don't exist.

If they did, they would have been leaked by now (no pun intended)

[DinoTriz2]

Mao wrote that

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_03.htm

Old time Leninist-Marxists are not liberals. This was a lie our government told you. The one time skepticism in the government line could help conservatives out, instead they lap that shit up like cool aid.

"Liberal" is just a nickname for Leftists in the US.

It wasn't a lie from the government. People started calling Leftists "Liberal" in the 60s because they were socially liberal. Live and let live left Libertarian hippies.

"Liberal" can mean left or right. Just like "Authoritarian" can be left or right.

But I agree with you that we shouldn't call them Liberal. The most polite catch-all name should be "Progressive" or "Hitlers who pretend to care about people".

[Cecily]

Liberals is what Rush Limbaugh calls people with heart disease.

[DinoTriz2]

What's funny is when Conservatives bash on Liberals.

The bulk of Conservatives are Liberals.

"Conservative" is short for "Conservative Liberal".

Freedom of speech, freedom of the press, expression, religion. Due process, and yes, even gun rights are all part of Liberal philosophy and society

[DinoTriz2]

https://i.imgur.com/wHdgO8X.jpg

[DinoTriz2]

https://i.imgur.com/YzLj6Ov.jpg

[DinoTriz2]

Man Identifying As 6-Year-Old Crushes Game-Winning Homer In Tee-Ball Championship (https://babylonbee.com/news/man-identifying-6-year-old-crushes-game-winning-homer-tee-ball-championship)

[Wonkie]

"Liberal" is just a nickname for Leftists in the US.

It wasn't a lie from the government. People started calling Leftists "Liberal" in the 60s because they were socially liberal. Live and let live left Libertarian hippies.

"Liberal" can mean left or right. Just like "Authoritarian" can be left or right.

But I agree with you that we shouldn't call them Liberal. The most polite catch-all name should be "Progressive" or "Hitlers who pretend to care about people".

what does left and right describe!

[DinoTriz2]

what does left and right describe!

My nuts in yo mouf

[JurisDictum]

Liberalism stems from petty-bourgeois selfishness, it places personal interests first and the interests of the revolution second, and this gives rise to ideological, political and organizational liberalism.

...

Liberalism is a manifestation of opportunism and conflicts fundamentally with Marxism. It is negative and objectively has the effect of helping the enemy; that is why the enemy welcomes its preservation in our midst. Such being its nature, there should be no place for it in the ranks of the revolution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItZmTc7BQ9E

[DinoTriz2]

https://i.imgur.com/19jaazj.jpg

[JurisDictum]

10922

[Wonkie]

female-presenting nipples :eek:

[JurisDictum]

Man Identifying As 6-Year-Old Crushes Game-Winning Homer In Tee-Ball Championship (https://babylonbee.com/news/man-identifying-6-year-old-crushes-game-winning-homer-tee-ball-championship)

Dino, you realize none of these chan nerds ever gave a shit about female weightlifting competitions until they could use them to call trans girls dudes right?

Its the only socially acceptable way to do that ATM -- I'm not really sure what their plan B is after this very narrow issue in society is addressed. Probably to still talk about it like it still happens.

[DinoTriz2]

Dino, you realize none of these chan nerds ever gave a shit about female weightlifting competitions until they could use them to call trans girls dudes right?

Its the only socially acceptable way to do that ATM -- I'm not really sure what their plan B is after this very narrow issue in society is addressed. Probably to still talk about it like it still happens.

uhh what does your comment have to do with the sports highlight I shared?

[Dwarflord]

id like to suck the other tit if its available please

[DinoTriz2]

That kid is clearly 6 to 8 years old.

He has long entered the "recreational" phase of titty sucking.

At some point we have to rule this statutory rape.

[Wonkie]

That kid is clearly 6 to 8 years old.

He has long entered the "recreational" phase of titty sucking.

At some point we have to rule this statutory rape.

are the nipples nourishing?

[DinoTriz2]

Pictured below: NOT racist images

https://i.imgur.com/VRmwTyT.png
https://i.imgur.com/r1zxHLE.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GbrPFPU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/BrBBTZA.jpg

[DinoTriz2]

are the nipples nourishing?

Is that all you require for something to be legal?

So if I suck a random woman's tits who didn't consent, it's legal as long as she's lactating?

I wanna live in your country.

[DinoTriz2]

Man, I found a goldmine...

https://imgur.com/eRnuzyN.gif

[DinoTriz2]

https://i.imgur.com/B8jW0ZJ.jpg

[DinoTriz2]

https://i.imgur.com/WOujJ3u.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ZdlaZSP.gif

[DinoTriz2]

https://i.imgur.com/T4oF7Ej.jpg

[DinoTriz2]

https://i.imgur.com/c4uxuN9.jpg

[DinoTriz2]

https://truthangel07.wordpress.com/2015/04/29/the-very-nature-of-white-people-is-pure-evil/

[DinoTriz2]

I don't understand, what's wrong with having a pride parade?

https://i.imgur.com/ut4wg0I_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[DinoTriz2]

https://i.imgur.com/WtfOMbl_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[Mblake81]

https://i.imgur.com/sJvLtPn.jpg

I'm not aware of too many things
I know what I know if you know what I mean
Philosophy is a talk on a cereal box
Religion is a smile on a dog

[Dwarflord]

Careful dino dont want you banned again we need you here bud

strong posts bro

[DinoTriz2]

Careful dino dont want you banned again we need you here bud

strong posts bro

They're anti-white memes.

You don't get banned for those.

[Dwarflord]

bans are thrown around like frisbees, after having 50 accounts + Banned i still dont even know what the rules are regarding what you can and cant say.

Even been banned for asking about installing the game !

[DinoTriz2]

Retarded Canadians say Dodgeball is oppressive and dehumanizing (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/06/07/dodgeball-is-tool-oppression-used-dehumanize-others-researchers-argue/)

Apparently the Proletariat can't afford to evade balls like the Bourgeois.

[DinoTriz2]

bans are thrown around like frisbees, after having 50 accounts + Banned i still dont even know what the rules are regarding what you can and cant say.

Even been banned for asking about installing the game !

I actually do like the mods here. They've been reasonable to me. A lot of forums or communities ban me once they find out I'm a Trump supporter.

[DinoTriz2]

Was coming home from work today and a guy in front of me had a Trump bumper sticker that was keyed. Cool and normal behavior.

https://i.imgur.com/SYNvrd3_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[Wonkie]

https://i.imgur.com/cPjLMLN.png

[Wonkie]

https://i.imgur.com/8EvuDV6.jpg

[DMN]

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/california-to-provide-full-health-benefits-to-illegal-immigrants-under-age-26/


LOL commiefornia. The best part is they are going to steal money from Californian legal citizens who don't have insurance and use the money to pay for illegals' healthcare/insurance.

[DinoTriz2]

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/california-to-provide-full-health-benefits-to-illegal-immigrants-under-age-26/


LOL commiefornia. The best part is they are going to steal money from Californian legal citizens who don't have insurance and use the money to pay for illegals' healthcare/insurance.

Even more Californian taxes, and the citizens don't even benefit lol

[DinoTriz2]

Who would win Civil War 2.0? (https://youtu.be/aJh7Ye1Qvc8)

[Wonkie]

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/california-to-provide-full-health-benefits-to-illegal-immigrants-under-age-26/


LOL commiefornia. The best part is they are going to steal money from Californian legal citizens who don't have insurance and use the money to pay for illegals' healthcare/insurance.

the retard logic is that it ultimately costs the state(and therefore taxpayers) less to keep people out of ER as primary care. that's the idea behind all these 90s republican healthcare plans.

In 2018, half of all births in California were paid for by the state’s Medicaid program, Medi-Cal, and 30 percent of those babies were born to mothers in the country illegally.

this a technically true but also very dishonest way to say 15% yes melon?

[DinoTriz2]

the retard logic is that it ultimately costs the state(and therefore taxpayers) less to keep people out of ER as primary care. that's the idea behind all these 90s republican healthcare plans.



this a technically true but also very dishonest way to say 15% yes melon?

California will probably force their citizens to give free blowjobs to illegals and the citizens will probably cheer with excitement and brag about how they are such good allies on Twitter.

1 like = 1 swallowed load

[Wonkie]

California will probably force their citizens to give free blowjobs to illegals and the citizens will probably cheer with excitement and brag about how they are such good allies on Twitter.

1 like = 1 swallowed load

really stupid, even for you

[DinoTriz2]

really stupid, even for you

Nah, I see it happening. It's entirely possible.

[Wonkie]

Nah, I see it happening. It's entirely possible.

low IQ

[DinoTriz2]

low IQ

You a race realist now?

[Wonkie]

You a race realist now?

no, you specifically and in particular

:)

[DinoTriz2]

California law demands that all citizens give no less than 3 blowjobs/ball sucks to the nearest government-sanctioned illegal alien every 12 hours.

All violators will be publicly branded a Trump supporter.

[Wonkie]

i clicked the civil war vid its an hour long i closed it

[DinoTriz2]

i clicked the civil war vid its an hour long i closed it

Well yeah, it's an ex-US government Red Team scenario analyst going over his hypothesis.

But in case you're wondering, it doesn't look good for the Left.

[Wonkie]

Well yeah, it's an ex-US government Red Team scenario analyst going over his hypothesis.

But in case you're wondering, it doesn't look good for the Left.

miss me with the helmet wearer vids fam

[d3r14k]

https://i.imgur.com/jmaFYNu.gif

[Delacroix]

Little drunken tidbit.

Can democrats stop labeling people as Nazis? Like imagine living in a world where you think that "literal Nazis" exist when the third Reich fell in 1945. It's time to stop. I mean there are racist people, there are anti-Semitic people, but there is no such thing as a "Nazi" anymore. This will of course be falling on deaf ears for the liberal folk who think "orange man bad", and also for the right-winged folk who already realize this simple fact. But it's still a problem apparently.

[Jimjam]

the retard logic is that it ultimately costs the state(and therefore taxpayers) less to keep people out of ER as primary care. that's the idea behind all these 90s republican healthcare plans.



this a technically true but also very dishonest way to say 15% yes melon?

Those prenatal babies need to grow up, get a job and pay for their own birth; point of use!

Expecting the state to pay is communism, expecting the parents nepotism. So entitled.

[Thorondor]

Lol who cant afford insurance in california?

The working poor.

Who can?

Tech workers making 100k+ a year get it for free from their employer.

Who gets fucked into paying for a horde of beaners? The working poor.

Great work libtards. Real bang up job with your fucking mental deficiencies.

Yet another example of the left fucking the poor in the ass while telling them theyre helping.

[Thorondor]

Cant afford insurance?

Well, youre going to afford paco's insurance then!

[zodium]

trfom

[DinoTriz2]

*California government advertisement appears*

"Meet Juan. He's 44, from Honduras, and hasn't showered since Tijuana. He may be overweight, but so is his cock. What he's lacking is blowjobs. This is where you come in, citizen."

"Remember our motto: 'Unhinge that jaw or face the law'"

[DMN]

https://i.imgur.com/FvPKgja.gif?noredirect trfom

[maskedmelon]

the retard logic is that it ultimately costs the state(and therefore taxpayers) less to keep people out of ER as primary care. that's the idea behind all these 90s republican healthcare plans.



this a technically true but also very dishonest way to say 15% yes melon?

Yeah, 30% of 50% of a number is 15% the number. It's either dishonest or dumb. These days I've a lot more faith in peoples' genuine idiocy than I do in any sort of clever treachery. The trolling here made me think for a long while that many people were actually smarter than they presented, but I realized that is not the norm in the real world. Most people really genuinely just don't understand.

[maskedmelon]

Also, happy Tuesday, peoples 👍

[DinoTriz2]

Apparently the far right makes a lot of Synthwave music lol (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgALavDCRbw)

[DinoTriz2]

https://i.imgur.com/iEgRqRy.jpg

[DinoTriz2]

lol
https://i.imgur.com/V2SQoh5.jpg

[DinoTriz2]

You can't say the word "Honk" on Facebook anymore (https://summit.news/2019/06/10/facebook-says-using-the-word-honk-violates-its-community-standards/?noworldorder)

[DinoTriz2]

The EU is officially pushing their propaganda through video games now.

https://i.imgur.com/PBHr9I1.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XHwGjGt.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/k4FOKMe.png

[Wonkie]

Little drunken tidbit.

Can democrats stop labeling people as Nazis? Like imagine living in a world where you think that "literal Nazis" exist when the third Reich fell in 1945. It's time to stop. I mean there are racist people, there are anti-Semitic people, but there is no such thing as a "Nazi" anymore. This will of course be falling on deaf ears for the liberal folk who think "orange man bad", and also for the right-winged folk who already realize this simple fact. But it's still a problem apparently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx4BVGPkdzk

[DinoTriz2]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx4BVGPkdzk

Western Culture isn't a dog whistle for the white race. Sorry, but you guys just imagine that shit in your own head.

There's a reason why there are Cultural Nationalists and Ethnic Nationalists.

[Wonkie]

Western Culture isn't a dog whistle for the white race. Sorry, but you guys just imagine that shit in your own head.

There's a reason why there are Cultural Nationalists and Ethnic Nationalists.

im not fooled and its up to him if he wants to be. im not interested in your identity politics either and culture has absolutely replaced race in the lexicon of racial politics.

https://i.imgur.com/S8rVo3b.gif

[DinoTriz2]

im not fooled and its up to him if he wants to be. im not interested in your identity politics either and culture has absolutely replaced race in the lexicon of racial politics.


Contrapoint's video:

"If someone explains, clarifies, or defends themselves, they're fascists. If their mouth moves, fuck em. They're Nazis."

*later in the video*

"Fascists like to try and fool Centrists by telling them that Leftists too easily call everyone a Nazi."

[Wonkie]

Contrapoint's video:

"If someone explains, clarifies, or defends themselves, they're fascists. If their mouth moves, fuck em. They're Nazis."

*later in the video*

"Fascists like to try and fool Centrists by telling them that Leftists too easily call everyone a Nazi."

go stand in the corner

[DinoTriz2]

im not interested in your identity politics either and culture has absolutely replaced race in the lexicon of racial politics.

It's not considered "identity politics" when we all share the identity of "American".

And no, culture has not replaced race in racial politics. That's retarded.

Do you know the difference between culture and race?

Or are you one of those racist Leftists who think of white people when you see "Western Culture"?

[DinoTriz2]

go stand in the corner

https://i.imgur.com/0T2kvHV.jpg

[Wonkie]

It's not considered "identity politics" when we all share the identity of "American".



it is political and about what flavor of rightwing you identify as - identity

[Jaxon]

Terms like Nazi and Facist are thrown around so casually that it's more reliable to assume that the people being called Nazis aren't actually Nazis.

[DinoTriz2]

https://i.imgur.com/KrFNynJ.jpg

[Wonkie]

Terms like Nazi and Facist are thrown around so casually that it's more reliable to assume that the people being called Nazis aren't actually Nazis.

not everyone who does the song and dance is a true Scotsman. there are definitely dumbass reasonabilists who get caught in the fray unwittingly serving the agenda, or even just grifting. see: Pim, Tool

[DinoTriz2]

it is political and about what flavor of rightwing you identify as - identity

Yeah, it's political now. Ten years ago both parties aimed at bettering America but I suppose that's a racist, right-wing thing now.

Caring about American citizens is racist.

Even when it benefits black, female, gay, or transgender Americans, that shit is RACIST identity politics...

Identity politics is a tendency for people of a particular religion, race, social background, etc., to form exclusive political alliances, moving away from traditional broad-based party politics.

Having a focus on Americans isn't the same as having a focus on a smaller specific identity, so it's not identity politics.

Nice try though. :)

[DinoTriz2]

not everyone who does the song and dance is a true Scotsman. there are definitely dumbass reasonabilists who get caught in the fray unwittingly serving the agenda, or even just grifting. see: Pim, Tool

And Tim gets death threats on a daily basis.

Leftists...the good guys, everyone!

[maskedmelon]

I identify as the rightwing of the leftwing, but sometimes feel more like the leftwing of the rightwing.

also, racism is garbage like many popular ideas. culture is really just the collection of ideas embraced by a group of people and the behavior they manifest as a result. for example, you have different cultures between competing business firms and within the firms thenselves. the only real link between race and culture is one of historical happenstance.

[DinoTriz2]

How do you expect me to react to shit like this?

https://i.imgur.com/5xN9UR4.jpg

[Wonkie]

Yeah, it's political now. Ten years ago both parties aimed at bettering America but I suppose that's a racist, right-wing thing now.

Caring about American citizens is racist.

Even when it benefits black, female, gay, or transgender Americans, that shit is RACIST identity politics...

Identity politics is a tendency for people of a particular religion, race, social background, etc., to form exclusive political alliances, moving away from traditional broad-based party politics.

Having a focus on Americans isn't the same as having a focus on a smaller specific identity, so it's not identity politics.

Nice try though. :)

https://i.imgur.com/Dax27rd.gif

[DinoTriz2]

https://i.imgur.com/Dax27rd.gif

When I'm right, you know I'm right, and you have nothing to say.

[Wonkie]

I identify as the rightwing of the leftwing, but sometimes feel more like the leftwing of the rightwing.

also, racism is garbage like many popular ideas. culture is really just the collection of ideas embraced by a group of people and the behavior they manifest as a result. for example, you have different cultures between competing business firms and within the firms thenselves. the only real link between race and culture is one of historical happenstance.

no opinion on that only meant to remark on the language shift ive noticed in the past 7 years. its annoying as heck

[Wonkie]

When I'm right, you know I'm right, and you have nothing to say.

there is only one story

[DinoTriz2]

there is only one story

Yep, reality is on my side.

Sorry, Commie.

And yes, you're a Communist. If you deny it, that just means you're even more of a Communist.

Your avatar is a Communist dog whistle too.

[Wonkie]

Your avatar is a Communist dog whistle too.

is it the art style? cuz its superdog(krypto) like from comics. i wanted someone prettier to explain it to me. :o

[DinoTriz2]

is it the art style? cuz its superdog(krypto) like from comics. i wanted someone prettier to explain it to me. :o

Yes, that's classic Soviet propaganda realism.

It's a Communist dog whistle and it triggers me.

Your speech should be censored.

[Wonkie]

Yes, that's classic Soviet propaganda realism.

It's a Communist dog whistle and it triggers me.

Your speech should be censored.

https://i.imgur.com/rmpe3Q7.gif

fwiw i thought so too

[maskedmelon]

no opinion on that only meant to remark on the language shift ive noticed in the past 7 years. its annoying as heck

gotcha. i really dunno about the language shift. the vast majority of my cultural awareness (what other people say/think about politics and stuff) comes from this forum. otherwise I read headlines, watch some news sometimes, listen to radio sometimes and bounce thoughts off the people around me who seem similarly unaware.

[DMN]

I identify as the rightwing of the leftwing, but sometimes feel more like the leftwing of the rightwing.

.

There is no point in identifying as anything. People will see you as they wish, and you will do likewise.

[DinoTriz2]

this song's lyrics have absolutely nothing to do with politics (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThwSWIXhiRw)

the same with this song (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOZTfct8BCo)

[Dwarflord]

communism is only bad if you are in the bottom bracket : )