******Official politics thread ******

[Pokesan]

https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/905611123394793472

[AzzarTheGod]

u mad im plankin on the clintons

ABC news 20/20 aint no infowars boy

[AzzarTheGod]

dunks that I would have went with

https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/859970597232795648

more poignant and arguably more relevant. the SOUND OF SILENCE BABY

[Pokesan]

nah the pages from today aren't readable

did u say a dumb thing?

[AzzarTheGod]

Never overestimate my thread reading.

9/7/2017 is looking skimmish.

[mickmoranis]

where is big j?

[mickmoranis]

In her new book, Clinton blamed Bernie Sanders for "copying her policies", "making unrealistic promises", and "purposefully disrupting the Democratic party". I'm so happy that fucking cunt isn't president. (But not as happy as I am sad that Trump is)

Expect more of the same in 2020 though.

its going to be hilarious when hes the best shot the dems have in 2020 and they cant win becuse of her attacks.

Remember

1. Bernie is sexist, becuse he said he would love to have her as a vice president. (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/hillary-clinton-sexism-bernie-sanders-215375)

2. Bernie defended Hillary from the beginning of the campaign. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrBXcKcviuc)

3. Hillary mocked sander's "unrealistic goals" in the first democratic debate right out the fucking gate. (https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/12/us/politics/democratic-debate.html)

4. Hillary and her campaign were relentless with attacks saying he had no experience, creating a narrative that he was not qualified to be president. (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/apr/07/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-not-qualified-be-president-hillary-/)

5. Bernie in response to that said that he didn't think that she was qualified to be president, specifically because of her ties to wall street. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWXnafxseQU) which was later spun to be "sanders doesnt think a woman is qualified to be president" by the hillary campaign, here we see the birth of the divisive moniker 'bernie bro'

6. Hillary makes up stories about how not only has her administration not made any attacks against bernie, but he has been free from them from the republican party, insinuating 1. that its not fair and 2. that is some how a bad thing? (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/may/22/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-wrong-negative-ads-bernie-sanders/)

5. Hillary says bernie is not a democrat (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uibPrluEkUI)

6. Bernie decides to go against his oath to not make political attacks against hillary, becuse “I’m not going to get beaten up, I’m not getting lied about. We will fight back.” (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/us-election-2016-bernie-sanders-promises-to-fight-back-against-attacks-from-hillary-clinton-a6973826.html)

7. This list could go on and on but lets just jump to the last attack that bernie made against Hillary Clinton where he said that he thinks she would make a fine president but wouldn't be capable of leading a political revolution (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRqGnmVBNjs), which of course, she was not thanks to her divisive campaign that destroyed the entire democratic party and left it in control of people like pokesan and other male virgins and fat girls with colored hair. I guess not lying to Americans is some how considered an attack by the Hillary campaign. Im sure she lost because of him and Russians right?

But you know, its great that the 'woman for the people' has spent the last 8 months of #resist not doing anything to help except write another scowling attack on any hope for party unity so she could make another million bucks. Good on you dems, good on your fight and god speed. I on the other hand will enjoy living in red states, where people are actually kind to each other, work hard for their families and spend real time with their friends, instead of scowling at twitter with their arms crossed upset while not doing anything to change their shitty life because its not fair that its not likely we'll have a LGBT president anytime soon.

[Rader]

you may well be right, but I think it is dangerous to argue that more wealthy individuals is more harmful than fewer. Is society more threatened by having a single disadvantages individual with fewer resources than everyone else than it is by having a single individual with vastly more resources than everyone else?

I think the degree of inequality is vastly more important and as I've said before, I do not believe society really benefits from exceptionally wealthy individuals. Society benefits from investment and production. Those things come from business.

The key is for there to be equality in opportunity, and an inequality of results. Hard work and effort and risk-taking must be seen as the means to achieve a bigger share than their neighbors, otherwise we will all eventually end up sitting at home, smoking dope and playing video games all day. If opportunity is not perceived as equal, people think the game is rigged and won't play. If everyone gets the same results no matter what they do, people sit on their butts just the same because there is no incentive to suffer the pain of hard work and sacrifice. That is why this whole "equality" argument is a bunch of BS and counterproductive to the long term success of humanity. The existence of inequality of results is not evidence of some evil force screwing you over, it is a good thing, AS LONG AS THERE IS EQUALITY OF OPPORTUNITY. Of course, humans are generally pretty stupid and prone to blaming inequality on a lack of opportunity, rather than their own personal failure.

[Pokesan]

fuck off both of you

[Rader]

fuck off both of you

Failure, libturd 101, call us racist misogynist homophobes first, then tell us to F off.

[Pokesan]

Failure, libturd 101, call us racist misogynist homophobes first, then tell us to F off.

thx thats way better! :cool:

[Ahldagor]

The key is for there to be equality in opportunity, and an inequality of results. Hard work and effort and risk-taking must be seen as the means to achieve a bigger share than their neighbors, otherwise we will all eventually end up sitting at home, smoking dope and playing video games all day. If opportunity is not perceived as equal, people think the game is rigged and won't play. If everyone gets the same results no matter what they do, people sit on their butts just the same because there is no incentive to suffer the pain of hard work and sacrifice. That is why this whole "equality" argument is a bunch of BS and counterproductive to the long term success of humanity. The existence of inequality of results is not evidence of some evil force screwing you over, it is a good thing, AS LONG AS THERE IS EQUALITY OF OPPORTUNITY. Of course, humans are generally pretty stupid and prone to blaming inequality on a lack of opportunity, rather than their own personal failure.

Opportunity is the qualifier which the Dems nor the Reps seem to perceive.

[JurisDictum]

The key is for there to be equality in opportunity, and an inequality of results. Hard work and effort and risk-taking must be seen as the means to achieve a bigger share than their neighbors, otherwise we will all eventually end up sitting at home, smoking dope and playing video games all day. ][/SIZE][/B]

That is all preserved in modern Democratic-Socialism. There are still winners and losers in the economy. Not to mention you can always take your world-class education to some other western economy as a Swedish guy for example.

Nevertheless, it turns out the bottom doesn't have to be a mentally ill guy walking around mumbling to himself with a blanket over his head (I've been thinking of this guy A lot lately). The bottom can be a modest living even the person isn't do shit to improve themselves -- it still works on a macro level.

In fact, because our economy is so competition-based and non-coordinated, when tend to spend more money for worse services. Education, healthcare, and welfare are all more expensive in America and less effective. We provide welfare in a way that actually prevents lifting people out of poverty. Not to mention job training must be bought by the prospective employee, which is a huge dampener on skill development compared to countries like Germany.

[AzzarTheGod]

That is all preserved in modern Democratic-Socialism. There are still winners and losers in the economy. Not to mention you can always take your world-class education to some other western economy as a Swedish guy for example.

Nevertheless, it turns out the bottom doesn't have to be a mentally ill guy walking around mumbling to himself with a blanket over his head (I've been thinking of this guy A lot lately). The bottom can be a modest living even the person isn't do shit to improve themselves -- it still works on a macro level.

In fact, because our economy is so competition-based and non-coordinated, when tend to spend more money for worse services. Education, healthcare, and welfare are all more expensive in America and less effective. We provide welfare in a way that actually prevents lifting people out of poverty. Not to mention job training must be bought by the prospective employee, which is a huge dampener on skill development compared to countries like Germany.

lmao looking forward to us being on our deathbeds like "damn we were born in the wrong country we got gypped on what a post-modern society is supposed to actually look like" ala the future of Scandinavia and Germany.

The argument commonly given is the population of the United States is too large for socialism. Hillary hit on that during the campaign trail. Its widely believed to be true by most Americans.

[Ahldagor]

lmao looking forward to us being on our deathbeds like "damn we were born in the wrong country we got gypped on what a post-modern society is supposed to actually look like" ala the future of Scandinavia and Germany.

The argument commonly given is the population of the United States is too large for socialism. Hillary hit on that during the campaign trail. Its widely believed to be true by most Americans.

If we don't think we're special then how can we be special, Azzar? Good ol' "cogito ergo sum" mentality, right? MAGA as an example.

[mickmoranis]

hey the FDA 'wrote a letter' to mylen a manufacture of epipens.

But thanks to regulation like the FDA, mylen has virtually no competition and has been able to raise their price of their product 400% not to mention eat the cost of potential lawsuits for selling a defective product.

Hopefully trump will end the FDA altogether and we can have some semblance of a free market again.

Oh by the way, the FDA has raided and sent local farmers to jail for selling milk.

[JurisDictum]

hey the FDA 'wrote a letter' to mylen a manufacture of epipens.

But thanks to regulation like the FDA, mylen has virtually no competition and has been able to raise their price of their product 400% not to mention eat the cost of potential lawsuits for selling a defective product.

Hopefully trump will end the FDA altogether and we can have some semblance of a free market again.

Oh by the way, the FDA has raided and sent local farmers to jail for selling milk.

You know we started the FDA because their was rats in the food and strict9 in the medications. I'm not sure if zero FDA is the way to go -- even if it is a bit corrupt. We don't say zero cops because there will always be murder and their are problems with police corruption.

[maskedmelon]

The problem isn't the FDA. The reason Mylen has no competition is because they have a patent. The reason they can charge whatever they want is because consumers are not directly responsible for costs due to universal insurance coverage legislated by a small group of idiots elected by the general population of idiots. Since all persons must purchase insurance, insurers could give fuck all about the cost of medical goods & services because they just pass them back to the consumer in the form of higher premiums. It is a self perpetuating cost bubble. Insurers make bank, pharma makes bank, medical service providers make bank, consumer gets screwed.

[JurisDictum]

Basically, "intellectual property" is BS -- and was invented by the ruling class to keep capitalism alive and the capital owners rich. As far as I'm concerned, if someone makes a complete windows knock off an sells it -- fine. I really don't care and shouldn't either.

The reason intellectual property started is so some jackass couldn't straight steal your book, go to better publishers than yours, and then make more money than the original author.

Books were also popular (esp. with lawyers and judges) and no one wants to see someone else profiting off their creation...

But they have totally commodified Intellectual Property so its now traded like stocks and the original innovator has long been cut out of any of the profit. Just think about how much money Bill Gates continues to make every day off other people's innovations -- because he is the baron of tech that will get his damn cut or else!

[mickmoranis]

The problem isn't the FDA. The reason Mylen has no competition is because they have a patent. The reason they can charge whatever they want is because consumers are not directly responsible for costs due to universal insurance coverage legislated by a small group of idiots elected by the general population of idiots. Since all persons must purchase insurance, insurers could give fuck all about the cost of medical goods & services because they just pass them back to the consumer in the form of higher premiums. It is a self perpetuating cost bubble. Insurers make bank, pharma makes bank, medical service providers make bank, consumer gets screwed.

they have a patent on the device that the FDA has approved.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epinephrine_autoinjector

there are other options available for epinephrine injection, but the FDA does not approve them. You have been lied to by Reddit.

http://epinephrineautoinject.com/?gclid=CjwKCAjw_8jNBRB-EiwA96Yp1m-TY0-6T_Rj30J0XNRQaUUSwqzcFehH0DY-mVaQGxbukHuLA3wifhoCT1UQAvD_BwE

the FDA rules your life, end the FDA end the fear of rats in food becuse thats stupid its 2017 and you live in a country that can enforce law thanks to our evolved standards of living.

Also Juris:

Ending the FDA will not suddenly make people make food with rat shit in and youll be helpless to do anythign about it, also right now there is chicken shit all over your chicken and you eat it anyway and its way more dangerous than rat shit. So THANKS FDA for not allowing cameras in Tyson factory farms.

your hyperbole is hyperbole

[Patriam1066]

Basically, "intellectual property" is BS -- and was invented by the (((ruling class))) to keep capitalism alive and the capital owners rich. As far as I'm concerned, if someone makes a complete windows knock off an sells it -- fine. I really don't care and shouldn't either.

The reason intellectual property started is so some jackass couldn't straight steal your book, go to better publishers than yours, and then make more money than the original author.

Books were also popular (esp. with lawyers and judges) and no one wants to see someone else profiting off their creation...

But they have totally commodified Intellectual Property so its now traded like stocks and the original innovator has long been cut out of any of the profit. Just think about how much money Bill Gates continues to make every day off other people's innovations -- because he is the baron of tech that will get his damn cut or else!

ftfy

[Patriam1066]

People eat Tyson chicken? That's a mistake

Speaking of food can y'all get some rain in California, my avocado prices are going up and it's annoying

[mickmoranis]

the most important thing in the last page is that it isnt pattent law that has given mylen the monopoly that allows them to charge 400% more for their product that doesn't even fucking work.

It is regulation by the FDA and nothing else.

end the FDA

hail trump (http://www.raps.org/regulatoryDetail.aspx?id=26745)

[mickmoranis]

FDA writes strongly worded letter to big pharma monopoly

meanwhile raids farmers for selling organic milk (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/apr/28/feds-sting-amish-farmer-selling-raw-milk-locally/)

while Juris shivers in his sleep about eating rat poop

after eating dinner, covered in rat poop.
(http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/2015/06/09/maggots-rat-hair-mouse-poop-and-more-gross-things-fda-allows-in-food.html)

[mickmoranis]

FDA is as good at keeping food and drugs safe, as the bear patrol is at keeping bears out of town, and Lisa's rock is at keeping tigers out of town.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSVqLHghLpw)

[mickmoranis]

Buy a water bottle today and find me one that doesn't say NO BPA on it, then realize there is no regulation against BPA and then realize that the free market drove the use of non carcinogenic plastic bottles.

I hope you guys are waking up while you read all this. The FDA does nothing. Trump is the best president you'll have in your lifetime that will shut those mother fuckers down.

[Patriam1066]

I liked you more when you were pro Bernie bud. No offense

[mickmoranis]

I liked you more when you were pro Bernie bud. No offense

blame it on pokesan

[AzzarTheGod]

If we don't think we're special then how can we be special, Azzar? Good ol' "cogito ergo sum" mentality, right? MAGA as an example.

I will say this. The MAGA and "POOR BUT RICH" mentality of Americans at the bottom rung is quite accommodating of success, especially in the cities.

In Germany you can't purchase a Ferrari or "show off" any fruits of labor or anything like that. They will spit and attack your car if you say anything about them spitting on it.

A lot of successful Germans have moved to Los Angeles (among other successful people from socialist blocs) because they said the culture is too unforgiving of success and in America they don't encounter that in the cities here. Here, people want to talk to you, congratulate you, ask you about the car.

In Germany, they want to hurt you, spit on you, destroy the car.

Socialism comes at....social cost. As ironic as that sounds. The cultural landscape would not be all roses and flowers if the USA were socialist. The winners would be punished, shamed, and spit on in the streets no different than Germany.

Something for JurisDictum to think about.

[Pokesan]

blame it on pokesan

mad i didn't vote for hillary bud?

[JurisDictum]

In Germany, they want to hurt you, spit on you, destroy the car.


Something for JurisDictum to think about.

Sounds like they got their priorities straight. Instead we give our young men and women the thumbs up for spending their modest paychecks on showing off. The next day we shame them for being so irresponsible.

[mickmoranis]

mad i didn't vote for hillary bud?

you white supremacist you

[mickmoranis]

Sounds like they got their priorities straight. Instead we give our young men and women the thumbs up for spending their modest paychecks on showing off. The next day we shame them for being so irresponsible.

uh the only one telling you to spend what you cant afford are rappers. Maybe you should stop doing what rappers tell you to do.

[JurisDictum]

uh the only one telling you to spend what you cant afford are rappers. Maybe you should stop doing what rappers tell you to do.

I'm just saying the culture of approval for gaudy big in-your-face bling is not an asset of America. It results in people being irresponsible to keep up with the Jones's.

I'd rather have grim-faced Germans spitting on Porsche's in a society.

[mickmoranis]

oh please it's just survival of the fittest. You want a country that elevates the unfit to the same positions as the fit.

If you see a Porsche and read into it that much, then thats your own inadequacies and self hate that is lashing out. Its not anyone else's fault. Just yours.

you keep insisting that other peoples wants keep screwing up your priorities. Its sad really.

[Pokesan]

you white supremacist you

u too addicted to suckin 2 party dick and unable to recognize a pox in your own house :^)

[mickmoranis]

PS Juris you still havent named one thing that others do that stop you from becoming a millionare and owning a porche... except this "I saw sum1 else w/ wun so I WANT WUN NOW."

[AzzarTheGod]

Sounds like they got their priorities straight. Instead we give our young men and women the thumbs up for spending their modest paychecks on showing off. The next day we shame them for being so irresponsible.

Fair enough, I suppose the American opposite isn't 100% ideal either.

[JurisDictum]

PS Juris you still havent named one thing that others do that stop you from becoming a millionare and owning a porche... except this "I saw sum1 else w/ wun so I WANT WUN NOW."

I think you have a misunderstanding about me Mic. I don't wan't to be like the rich. I'm not advocating for a society where everyone gets a obsidian olympic size swimming pool and a Jaguar.

I'm saying that they are wasting money and holding up innovation by making the poor work 9-5 at McDonalds or some other shit job so they can have a 2nd mansion and a private jet.* That's where all the surplus is going.

* I realize what actually motivates these people is the knowledge that they are better and important. Not actual material goods. The Jets and Governments are just the mechanism.

[mickmoranis]

wrong what motivates people is money.

which is why capitalism has resulted in the greatest economies on earth.

The only socialist economies that even come close to competing with capitalist ones, sell oil at a rate that is comparitivly thousnads of times more than america, to pay for the socialist bullshit that you think is attainable without it.

Money makes the world go round. Period.

canada, scandinavia, all their money comes from the global economy of oil, which is a capitalist system. China.. the only country that you can remotly say is free of the chains of capitalism is australia, which is capitalist with better healtchare, and thats it.

capitalism > socialism

no contest.

[Nilstoniakrath]

I'm not advocating for a society where everyone gets a obsidian olympic size swimming pool and a Jaguar.

I'm saying that they are wasting money and holding up innovation by making the poor work 9-5 at McDonalds or some other shit job so they can have a 2nd mansion and a private jet.

Actually, that is exactly what Socialists are advocating for. They make promises that their dupes, er I mean voters, think will result in them enjoying the high life without having to work very hard, because those evil rich dudes have such an excess of profit that taxing them can pay for all the freebies and goodies that the lefties offer as a bribe to get voted into office.

And speaking of shit jobs, just who cleans up the elephant cr@p at the zoo in a socialist society? "To each based on need, and from each based on ability" wont keep the toilets clean, aint no one dealing with that cr@p if there is a guaranteed "living" income. Everyone will want to be a writer or musician or mattress tester. Anything less will be too demeaning. LOL, kinda like Millenials in the US today.

[Pokesan]

Actually, that is exactly what Socialists are advocating for. They make promises that their dupes, er I mean voters, think will result in them enjoying the high life without having to work very hard, because those evil rich dudes have such an excess of profit that taxing them can pay for all the freebies and goodies that the lefties offer as a bribe to get voted into office.

And speaking of shit jobs, just who cleans up the elephant cr@p at the zoo in a socialist society? "To each based on need, and from each based on ability" wont keep the toilets clean, aint no one dealing with that cr@p if there is a guaranteed "living" income. Everyone will want to be a writer or musician or mattress tester. Anything less will be too demeaning. LOL, kinda like Millenials in the US today.

oh we get to pick? sign me up for crapping in your mouth :)

[Nilstoniakrath]

oh we get to pick? sign me up for crapping in your mouth :)

Well, since your head is up your @ss, good luck with that, your own mouth will swallow any excrement you think is heading my way.

[Tankdan]

NFL ratings down another 13%

Thanks Kaepernick

[AzzarTheGod]

Well, since your head is up your @ss, good luck with that, your own mouth will swallow any excrement you think is heading my way.

lmao

[JurisDictum]

Actually, that is exactly what Socialists are advocating for. They make promises that their dupes, er I mean voters, think will result in them enjoying the high life without having to work very hard, because those evil rich dudes have such an excess of profit that taxing them can pay for all the freebies and goodies that the lefties offer as a bribe to get voted into office.

And speaking of shit jobs, just who cleans up the elephant cr@p at the zoo in a socialist society? "To each based on need, and from each based on ability" wont keep the toilets clean, aint no one dealing with that cr@p if there is a guaranteed "living" income. Everyone will want to be a writer or musician or mattress tester. Anything less will be too demeaning. LOL, kinda like Millenials in the US today.

Honestly man, why the hell do you believe that. When the hell did Bernie ever promise anyone great wealth or luxury for all?

The people that wipe up the elephant crap are the same people that do it now. It's just they get paid slightly more and work less because they have a union. They also get free healthcare and the firm is able to train people more ambitious than life-long shovelers.

It's not impossible

It's not unfair

It's not asking for the moon to get done

[JurisDictum]

NYPost Destroys Hilary Clinton:

http://nypost.com/2017/09/06/cluelessness-thy-name-is-hillary-clinton/

No, Hillary Clinton had no such advantages. The subtext here — and the reason she was such an epically bad two-time candidate — is that we should feel sorry for her, not the other way around. It’s the problem with her campaign writ large: At a time when millions of Americans were economically hurting and afraid of being left behind, she thought “I’m With Her” was a galvanizing slogan. If anything, it should have been “She’s With Us.”

But such is her narcissism, blinding Clinton to what most Americans saw: not a campaign but the would-be coronation of someone thoroughly convinced it was her turn.

[Swish]

https://i.imgur.com/mIjVWHU.jpg

Also didn't she take an epic shit on the NY firefighters?

[AzzarTheGod]

http://nypost.com/2017/08/08/theyre-trying-to-foist-another-kennedy-on-us-enough/

lmao solid kennedy dunks

they are trying to force this jew kennedy on us. I bet with his jew connections he will be president one day, the first president with a jew name. should be interesting to watch the spoiled shitbags progress.

he sounds like a real piece of shit

[AzzarTheGod]

NYPost Destroys Hilary Clinton:

http://nypost.com/2017/09/06/cluelessness-thy-name-is-hillary-clinton/

lmao its the same as the kennedy fuck with the vanity and pushing himself/herself (clinton) on us.

we are rather tired of all that malarky.

[brightlights]

And speaking of shit jobs, just who cleans up the elephant cr@p at the zoo in a socialist society? "To each based on need, and from each based on ability" wont keep the toilets clean

ironically they think mexicans will do those jobs while the libs are #resisting and calling white people that do those jobs racist for voting for trump

[Jarnauga]

i'm just gonna leave this here

https://i.imgur.com/ggslkIi.png

[Patriam1066]

i'm just gonna leave this here

https://i.imgur.com/ggslkIi.png

Do you understand why Bernie sanders and trump, two incompetent retards, were popular?

We're all aware of what's happening bud. Propose a solution that doesn't include open borders and free sex changes and then we'll talk

[Xaanka]

to be fair even the 6% income growth for the upper 99.999% is pretty sad

but nobody gets into that bracket because of dumb luck, there's clear differences in the decisions they make in managing their money than anyone lower on the pole.

[JurisDictum]

to be fair even the 6% income growth for the upper 99.999% is pretty sad

but nobody gets into that bracket because of dumb luck, there's clear differences in the decisions they make in managing their money than anyone lower on the pole.

Everyone gets into that bracket because of dumb luck. If they were born somewhere else or of a different race/gender they would be a working class smuck of their country like anyone else. Most of their wealth is owed to opportunity of birth and getting lucky with risks.

And of course, there's all the people that person brings with them that didn't do shit. Their kids and their kid's kids, perhaps even some others. But let's just keep focusing on that one guy that invested in Apple and deify him (usually a him) as a business genius for doing it.

[JurisDictum]

http://nypost.com/2017/08/08/theyre-trying-to-foist-another-kennedy-on-us-enough/

lmao solid kennedy dunks

they are trying to force this jew kennedy on us. I bet with his jew connections he will be president one day, the first president with a jew name. should be interesting to watch the spoiled shitbags progress.

he sounds like a real piece of shit

He already have a Jew we like:

8831

Don't count on the fact that he is getting older than Grandpa Time to discourage the rising socialist tide. Really it's only Trump going to war with North Korea that could prevent Bernie from dying in office. That or the DNC. Both powerful forces for evil in the world.

One look at that pretty richboy is all the Dem base will need to never want to hear a word out of his mouth again.

[Pokesan]

effective? lol maybe as a fund raiser.

[brightlights]

Everyone gets into that bracket because of dumb luck. If they were born somewhere else or of a different race/gender they would be a working class smuck of their country like anyone else. Most of their wealth is owed to opportunity of birth and getting lucky with risks.

And of course, there's all the people that person brings with them that didn't do shit. Their kids and their kid's kids, perhaps even some others. But let's just keep focusing on that one guy that invested in Apple and deify him (usually a him) as a business genius for doing it.

your post is so full of racism and sexism its hilarious that you think you're side isnt the racist greedy takers of society.

Theres nothing stopping them. There's nothing stopping you. If someone dies poor its a life choice. And if someone wants to die wealthy and give their money to their kids so they can live any life they want, theyre free to do that. Unless they live in some fascist communist country that you want to turn america into.

[Jarnauga]

your post is so full of racism and sexism its hilarious that you think you're side isnt the racist greedy takers of society.

Theres nothing stopping them. There's nothing stopping you. If someone dies poor its a life choice. And if someone wants to die wealthy and give their money to their kids so they can live any life they want, theyre free to do that. Unless they live in some fascist communist country that you want to turn america into.

https://i.imgur.com/JBax2HL.jpg

[AzzarTheGod]

i'm just gonna leave this here

https://i.imgur.com/ggslkIi.png

we've been aware of it since 1980

but "hope and change" man!! haha DNC got you boys strung up like hunted deer with them slogans. you gullible fucks.

keep sucking identity politics dick. "can da gheys get da marriage? which party says so" lmao

solid 1% dunks on your poor asses

[JurisDictum]

your post is so full of racism and sexism its hilarious that you think you're side isnt the racist greedy takers of society.

Theres nothing stopping them. There's nothing stopping you. If someone dies poor its a life choice. And if someone wants to die wealthy and give their money to their kids so they can live any life they want, theyre free to do that. Unless they live in some fascist communist country that you want to turn america into.

Hear that everyone -- some middle class white guy from America thinks him being born as a middle class white guy in America means nothing. And your just as well off as a poor Indian dude.

Afterall, some poor guys from India have become rich -- That means every single poor Indian dude can be rich -- and its their failure for not.

There's nothing stopping a poor Indian guy from getting rich like there's nothing stopping me from being a professional football player. Your like someone starting on 3rd base and can't even admit it.

Not that Socialist argue: "were all winners and just as good." They argue the bottom shouldn't be rock bottom just because your can't take care of yourself in a competitive economy better than others.

I don't care about being rich, helping people get rich, or how rich people feel. That's the truth about me.

I also find your white identity politics hilariously ironic. Sorry I pointed out white men were a lot better off in the 70s high society scene (when most current billionaires made their money) than other races/genders...fuckin snowflake

[AzzarTheGod]

Sorry I pointed out white men were a lot better off in the 70s high society scene (when most current billionaires made their money) than other races/genders...fuckin snowflake


Exactly. Warren Buffett isn't Warren Buffet without the 1970's and pre-1970's when the American oligarchy was created.

The late 1980's further solidified the oligarchs with the help of Reagan's cold indifference. The people loved that cold indifference. It was the brainwashing they dream about.

Warren Buffet CANNOT create that wealth in post 2010. HE CANNOT CREATE THOSE BILLIONS FROM SCRATCH. THE OPPORTUNITY IS NOT THERE.

Warren has not made significant money in 30 years if you adjust everything for inflation and time. He makes money, but he is essentially frozen in that 1970 oligarch bubble.

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Hear that everyone -- some middle class white guy from America thinks him being born as a middle class white guy in America means nothing. And your just as well off as a poor Indian dude.

Afterall, some poor guys from India have become rich -- That means every single poor Indian dude can be rich -- and its their failure for not.

There's nothing stopping a poor Indian guy from getting rich like there's nothing stopping me from being a professional football player. Your like someone starting on 3rd base and can't even admit it.

Not that Socialist argue: "were all winners and just as good." They argue the bottom shouldn't be rock bottom just because your can't take care of yourself in a competitive economy better than others.

I don't care about being rich, helping people get rich, or how rich people feel. That's the truth about me.

Nothing bad could come out of giving gibs to the dregs of society. That's not like incentivizing their uncompetitiveness or anything.

I also find your white identity politics hilariously ironic. Sorry I pointed out white men were a lot better off in the 70s high society scene (when most current billionaires made their money) than other races/genders...fuckin snowflake

How dare you. “Snowflake” is a term from the days of World War II Germany, used by Nazi soldiers when referring to the remains of those incinerated in concentration camps.

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i'm just gonna leave this here

https://i.imgur.com/ggslkIi.png

Biggest take away is that (almost) everyone is equally terrible at building wealth.

[fash]

Warren Buffet CANNOT create that wealth in post 2010. HE CANNOT CREATE THOSE BILLIONS FROM SCRATCH. THE OPPORTUNITY IS NOT THERE.

maybe not for Buffett or investing in long stock positions, but the opportunity is there in cryptoshekels

[JurisDictum]

Biggest take away is that (almost) everyone is equally terrible at building wealth.

I agree -- which is why you can't trust 100% of society to care of themselves. Self-sufficiency is a good personal philosophy and a horrible one for governance. It worked better back when we all farmed the land for a living..that's now how modern societies work. People aren't self sufficient. They are just usually overpaid or underpaid.

[mickmoranis]

I agree -- which is why you can't trust 100% of society to care of themselves. Self-sufficiency is a good personal philosophy and a horrible one for governance. It worked better back when we all farmed the land for a living..that's now how modern societies work. People aren't self sufficient. They are just usually overpaid or underpaid.

Juris, you seem to think that its everyones right to be an upper millionare.

This country isnt that. Its not the right country for you I'm afraid. Unfortunetly I dont think there is a place on earth that is right for you though, since you live in a fantasy world.

America is a country where there is nothing stopping you from getting out of whatever economic position you are currently in, and in some cases, if you're lucky or smart, strike gold and become very wealthy.

But you seem to think that everyone should be able to be as well off as anyone else.

That's fantasy. Sure if I start with 100k Im going to have a nicer car and a fancier pad than you, but that doesn't mean Im better or worse than you.

Your problem is you're spending so much time being jealous of that 100k that you're missing the fact that you have had many opportunities to get out of whatever economic situation YOU'RE in that makes you so upset.

You have every right to get out of it, and have every opportunity to but you dont necessarily have the right to start at an even playing field as anyone else. Your starting position is a decision that was made by your parents. Its their right to make that decision, and you're entitled to cry about it, but to demand that you get to start where Richy Rich started, even though their parents or their grand parents had the foresight to not buy that condo in Florida that they went bankrupt over, gives their kin the entitlement to start, where you can only hope to make it one day.

If you dont like what you were given, dont blame rich people, blame your parents. If you think it's unfair that rich people get a better start than you, then do your best to not be a hypocrite and make sure your kids have what you think is "luck" so they can get a better start.

If in 40 years they say, "dad why didnt you pay for our school and give us a small loan" and you say "well I was trying to get socialism in america to be a thing online" they're going to say, "oh because you were a loser, well thanks for living in a fantasy world, dad"

Wake up, get outa bed, go to work, save money, build, and stop demanding that by simply doing those things, you deserve a pool and a Ferrari.

Being. poor. is. a. choice. You're just upset your parents made the choice that you'd start with less, so they could watch a lot of TV while they ate dinner.

https://i.imgur.com/ZzZdz7I.png

[Xaanka]

Everyone gets into that bracket because of dumb luck. If they were born somewhere else or of a different race/gender they would be a working class smuck of their country like anyone else. Most of their wealth is owed to opportunity of birth and getting lucky with risks.

And of course, there's all the people that person brings with them that didn't do shit. Their kids and their kid's kids, perhaps even some others. But let's just keep focusing on that one guy that invested in Apple and deify him (usually a him) as a business genius for doing it.

not at all, actually, until you get into top 0.001% percentile, which isn't representative of anything to anyone who understands that these people have been natural-selected to be nothing but the most savvy with finances until you get into extreme cases like rothschild kids.

top 1% net worth for the 18-30 bracket sits around half a million -- mid 300k's under 20 and about 760k under 30, which is incredibly attainable for just about anybody who skipped college and entered the workforce early and doesn't have kids. you can get into top 5% through smart financial planning with the income the average entry level helpdesk job offers in my city, which rarely require a high school education. you might have to drive an hour to work instead of paying $2000 a month for the average going rate of a studio where these jobs are, but no one said this shit was easy.

i have many irl friends ranging between top 1% to top 0.001% of this age bracket, and i can only think of two who aren't self made (injury settlements) they're both very likely to leave the top 1% as they're both making poor financial decisions on a constant basis and one's a dumbass opiate addict.

cutting out people who have profited from illegal means, by contrast most people i know in this bracket at a young age are self-made. the two wealthiest i know (top 0.001%+) did not attend high school and live incredibly modest lives -- actually both of them live in camper vans they bought off craigslist right now. they're not taking out car loans, home loans, having kids, marrying young, and pissing their money away like most people 18-30 would. although they do travel a lot.

it's that mentality that made them successful in the first place. it's a huge, defeatest, and pathetic mischaracterization pushed by low IQ bernie voters in my opinion, to say that "most" people in the upper income brackets made it there through inheritance or dumb luck. investing wisely isn't dumb luck. building a successful business isn't dumb luck. developing valuable skills few have in the world isn't dumb luck. it's smart, and very calculated.

bernie bro us vs them politics are a calculated move to reinforce the same defeatist attitudes that make people poor. also lol college is worthless.

[JurisDictum]

not at all, actually, until you get into top 0.001% percentile, which isn't representative of anything to anyone who understands that these people have been natural-selected to be nothing but the most savvy with finances until you get into extreme cases like rothschild kids.

top 1% net worth for the 18-30 bracket sits around half a million -- mid 300k's under 20 and about 760k under 30, which is incredibly attainable for just about anybody who skipped college and entered the workforce early and doesn't have kids. you can get into top 5% through smart financial planning with the income the average entry level helpdesk job offers in my city, which rarely require a high school education. you might have to drive an hour to work instead of paying $2000 a month for the average going rate of a studio where these jobs are, but no one said this shit was easy.

i have many irl friends ranging between top 1% to top 0.001% of this age bracket, and i can only think of two who aren't self made (injury settlements) they're both very likely to leave the top 1% as they're both making poor financial decisions on a constant bases.

cutting out people who have profited from illegal means, by contrast most people i know in this bracket at a young age are self-made. the two wealthiest i know (top 0.001%+) did not attend high school and live incredibly modest lives -- actually both of them live in camper vans they bought off craigslist right now. they're not taking out car loans, home loans, having kids, marrying young, and pissing their money away like most people 18-30 would.

it's that mentality that made them successful in the first place. it's a huge, defeatest, and pathetic mischaracterization pushed by low IQ bernie voters in my opinion, to say that "most" people in the upper income brackets made it there through inheritance or dumb luck. investing wisely isn't dumb luck. building a successful business isn't dumb luck. developing valuable skills few have in the world isn't dumb luck. it's smart, and very calculated.

bernie bro us vs them politics are a calculated move to reinforce the same defeatist attitudes that make people poor. also lol college is worthless.

Stupid argument. You seem to ignore that a 25 year old with 500 mil to their name has a lot more going for them than just that amount of money. Almost certainly had powerful family connections or perhaps some kind of born freakish talent at something.

You are by definition talking about 1% population and trying to paint that as a reasonable goal for everyone. You can't expect everyone to be a high functioning go-getter...its a tiny part of population. Someone has to scrub toilets and that someone needs healthcare and a place to live.

You also seem to think punishing people for having kids young rather than supporting that decision as something that keeps the economy going. Birth rates aren't exactly spectacular which is part of the reason for immigration in most of the world (America is a little different).

[JurisDictum]

Juris, you seem to think that its everyones right to be an upper millionare.


That's a Republican dude obsession -- not mine. I don't think their should be upper millionaires and billionaires because the wealth is never justified at that level.

Edit: The obsidian swimming pool reference came from a story I heard from a billionaire Trust-funder. His mom spent $150,000 draining her pool to fix a pencil size scratch no one noticed but her. That was too much even for the trust fund kid -- he had to talk about it....behind her back.

[Patriam1066]

Hear that everyone -- some middle class white guy from America thinks him being born as a middle class white guy in America means nothing. And your just as well off as a poor Indian dude.

Afterall, some poor guys from India have become rich -- That means every single poor Indian dude can be rich -- and its their failure for not.

There's nothing stopping a poor Indian guy from getting rich like there's nothing stopping me from being a professional football player. Your like someone starting on 3rd base and can't even admit it.

Not that Socialist argue: "were all winners and just as good." They argue the bottom shouldn't be rock bottom just because your can't take care of yourself in a competitive economy better than others.

I don't care about being rich, helping people get rich, or how rich people feel. That's the truth about me.

I also find your white identity politics hilariously ironic. Sorry I pointed out white men were a lot better off in the 70s high society scene (when most current billionaires made their money) than other races/genders...fuckin snowflake

Why is Sweden a better country than Somalia?

Hint: culture, not melanin

[mickmoranis]

Stupid argument. You seem to ignore that a 25 year old with 500 mil to their name has a lot more going for them than just that amount of money. Almost certainly had powerful family connections or perhaps some kind of born freakish talent at something.

you really should read my post about how shitty your parents were.

That's a Republican dude obsession -- not mine. I don't think their should be upper millionaires and billionaires because the wealth is never justified at that level.

Edit: The obsidian swimming pool reference came from a story I heard from a billionaire Trust-funder. His mom spent $150,000 draining her pool to fix a pencil size scratch no one noticed but her. That was too much even for the trust fund kid -- he had to talk about it....behind her back.

Its incredly sad how obviously jellous you are of the rich while pretending that you would live like jesus if not for (what reason?) I guess your intense jellousy that some people have fancy pool problems, is forcing you to not live how you say everyone should live.

You've definitly gone from being a socialist, to a communist, to now you're a cultist that thinks that you or someone like you should decide how everyone else lives.

if you were a republican, you'd go to work, and donate your money to the poor instead of arguing about how unfair the poor have it while not lifting a fucking finger to help them, while demanding that the entire world cease living the way they want to to help them instead.

go join a cult, you belong in one.

[Xaanka]

Stupid argument. You seem to ignore that a 25 year old with 500 mil to their name has a lot more going for them than just that amount of money. Almost certainly had powerful family connections or perhaps some kind of born freakish talent at something.

first of all, 500 mil at 25 is not top 1% or top 0.1%. top 1% at 25 is around $360,000 net worth.

i'll just use the richest dude i know as an example, his parents actually died when he was young and had nothing to leave him. my friend found him homeless at 15 and basically pulled his ass out of the gutter. he then made incredibly smart decisions, particularly with certain investments, and he now is that "25 year old with 50000 gazillion dollars"

You are by definition talking about 1% population and trying to paint that as a reasonable goal for everyone. You can't expect everyone to be a high functioning go-getter...its a tiny part of population. Someone has to scrub toilets and that someone needs healthcare and a place to live.

it is a reasonable goal considering you can achieve it with an entry level job and decent financial planning.

bolded why they're poor, that and poor financial decisions. ever notice it's always poors buying the latest $800 iGadget and huge tv's every year? ever notice those are the only people buying $50,000 cars?

You also seem to think punishing people for having kids young rather than supporting that decision as something that keeps the economy going. Birth rates aren't exactly spectacular which is part of the reason for immigration in most of the world (America is a little different).

we actually reward people for having kids, to the point where people have children or adopt children specifically for the cash benefits they receive. in a liberal state like mine, a single mother with 2 kids would be getting over 2k in cash benefits, qualify for free housing (valued at $3,200 a month for the cheapest 3 bed in my area, INCLUDING priority over other renters in one of the most competitive markets in the world) and receive $200 a month per kid in food stamps. these are very conservative estimates except the food stamp one (it's always $200/kid and about $100-200 for the mother) and that totals
just a couple hundred shy of $70,000 a year for having 2 kids as a single mother. if 1 of those kids is disabled you're looking at way more than that.
don't even try to call bullshit, because i know people who do this and i know what they receive.

the government isn't responsible for the fact that having kids young is a financial burden on someone going to college and entering the workforce in their mid 20's.

[JurisDictum]

Why is Sweden a better country than Somalia?

Hint: culture, not melanin

Sweaden was also a dominate military Empire throughout most of History. Occupied by freakishly big creepy quite* white guys that invaded coastlines before most had boats.

*quite guys always go berzerk when the fighting starts.

So maybe all the constant military conquest and war gave them a bit of a leg up in the world economy over Somalia. Which is a desert filled with starving people oppressed by great powers.

[Patriam1066]

Sweaden was also a dominate military Empire throughout most of History. Occupied by freakishly big creepy quite* white guys that invaded coastlines before most had boats.

*quite guys always go berzerk when the fighting starts.

So maybe all the constant military conquest and war gave them a bit of a leg up in the world economy over Somalia.

I thought it was liberal values and their education system. Speaking of constant warfare, why isn't Somalia successful?

I can't believe you're actually arguing that modern swedes aren't superior to female genital mutilating Somalis

[mickmoranis]

bolded why they're poor, that and poor financial decisions. ever notice it's always poors buying the latest $800 iGadget and huge tv's every year? ever notice those are the only people buying $50,000 cars?

he thinks that the fact that igadgets exist, its corrupting society to make the poor want them.

Basically what juris is preaching is, living like the amish, and some how doing away with want & desire.

I'd wager he thinks authoritarian law is the only way.

His argument has gone from fantasy to insanity in like 4 steps.

[Xaanka]

i doubt jurus has ever interacted with a Somalian irl, let alone one who's fresh off the boat.

[mickmoranis]

i doubt jurus has ever interacted with a Somalian irl, let alone one who's fresh off the boat.

it is a 100% probability that he does no volunteer work nor has he donated to anything but the bernie campaign.

[Xaanka]

Somalis actually used to dominate trade in the indian ocean and were pretty wealthy until the 19th century when the aligned ottoman empire collapsed. hell somalia was most likely the mythical land of Punt, a wealthy trade hub of the ancient world. seems like Jurus doesn't really know much about their history or the context as to why they are the way they are in the 19th century and beyond. somalia's civil war and and subsequent decentralization of power played a much larger role than British (and Italian, you seemed to miss that part) conquest my dude.

I managed an assembly line for a while and most of the workers were fresh off the boat Somalis. I used to have lunch with those dudes every day and shoot the shit. When you ask them about the problems with Somalia, it always goes back to their civil war and in more modern times, China's illegal poaching of their fishing grounds.

oh no that doesn't fit into my agenda of "all the problems with Africa are the white man's fault" what will i ever do???

[Ahldagor]

Azzar, can you clue these folks into that what it takes to be the top is to be born into a specific familial circumstance and have the connections to maintain an information flow that contains financial data used for personal gains? Is that Boolean, black and white, dichotomy based enough?

[Swish]

I thought it was liberal values and their education system. Speaking of constant warfare, why isn't Somalia successful?

I can't believe you're actually arguing that modern swedes aren't superior to female genital mutilating Somalis

Brain drain partly, and not just in Somalia. The ones with the education or sense do the right thing and leave as refugees or through whatever other means.

Sweden has taken in a shit ton of them over the last 10-20 years and its showing culturally. Last time I was in Stockholm in one of the big train stations there was a noticeable black population (comparable with an English city). I used to watch a late teens League player who was based in Sweden (from Somalia)...he was shit hot as Leblanc.

[Patriam1066]

Brain drain partly, and not just in Somalia. The ones with the education or sense do the right thing and leave as refugees or through whatever other means.

Sweden has taken in a shit ton of them over the last 10-20 years and its showing culturally. Last time I was in Stockholm in one of the big train stations there was a noticeable black population (comparable with an English city). I used to watch a late teens League player who was based in Sweden (from Somalia)...he was shit hot as Leblanc.

Yeah brain drain has fucked Iran too. That doesn't explain female genital mutilation though

I just want a liberal to admit that there are indeed bad people who have melanin in their skin. I think Juris would acquit OJ Simpson and his rationale would be "Nicole had it coming"

[JurisDictum]

Somalis actually used to dominate trade in the indian ocean and were pretty wealthy until the 19th century when the aligned ottoman empire collapsed. hell somalia was most likely the mythical land of Punt, a wealthy trade hub of the ancient world. seems like Jurus doesn't really know much about their history or the context as to why they are the way they are in the 19th century and beyond. somalia's civil war and and subsequent decentralization of power played a much larger role than British (and Italian, you seemed to miss that part) conquest my dude.

oh no that doesn't fit into my agenda of "all the problems with Africa are the white man's fault" what will i ever do???

I grant you I didn't spend a good amount of time on Somalia. But my understanding is they were just a province of the Ottoman Empire. The Ottomans were indeed more powerful in world economy than any other civilization during the medieval period. A subset of ethnic "Harbi" Arabs had an extensive clan trade network going. We're talking vast wealth in the spice trade in this era.

Then the Ottoman Empire decayed over time due to an inability to truly consolidate and rule their people. They had many different people's under their rule, and cultural differences made it difficult to rule with anything but a very lose hold. The rich got lazy and conservative and they sat their on rusting institutions rather than the military/bureaucratic innovation going on in Europe.

By World War I, regimented armies with fire arms and suppy-lines showed up and tore the Ottomans apart. Which had no national education system or modern bureaucracies like the Europe.

Why did Europe pull ahead? Mostly we believe its because constant war made the state more necessary, powerful, and efficient. The Ottoman Empire did not need to fight as many wars as the Empires of Europe. Therefore, they did not "evolve" as fast.

[Xaanka]

Brain drain partly, and not just in Somalia. The ones with the education or sense do the right thing and leave as refugees or through whatever other means.

I was going to say, the Somalis I worked with were all VERY smart and ambitious young men. They would constantly go on about how their kinsmen back home were so focused on fucking each other over they have no concept of creating something for themselves.

[Patriam1066]

I grant you I didn't spend a good amount of time on Somalia. But my understanding is they were just a province of the Ottoman Empire. The Ottomans were indeed more powerful in world economy than any other civilization during the medieval period. A subset of ethnic "Harbi" Arabs had an extensive clan trade network going.

Then the Ottoman Empire decayed over time due to an inability to truly consolidate and rule their people. The rich got lazy and conservative and they sat their on rusting institutions rather than the military/bureaucratic innovation going on in Europe. Soon regimented armies with fire arms and suppy-lines showed up and tore the ottomans apart. Which had no national education system or modern bureaucracies like the Europe.

Why did Europe pull ahead? Mostly we believe its because constant war made the state more necessary powerful and efficient. The Ottoman Empire did not need to fight as many wars as the Empires of Europe. Therefore, they did not "evolve" as fast.

If you can admit they pulled ahead then ask yourself what values and cultural traits allowed that. Then be a chauvinist for those values being promoted across the world. Do you want America to become Iran or Iran to become America? I use that example because seriously buddy George Washington and Hamilton would be an improvement over the dip shits running my country 250 years later

That's all I'm saying bud!!!! Stop apologizing for dog shit behavior

[Xaanka]

I grant you I didn't spend a good amount of time on Somalia. But my understanding is they were just a province of the Ottoman Empire. The Ottomans were indeed more powerful in world economy than any other civilization during the medieval period. A subset of ethnic "Harbi" Arabs had an extensive clan trade network going.

Then the Ottoman Empire decayed over time due to an inability to truly consolidate and rule their people. The rich got lazy and conservative and they sat their on rusting institutions rather than the military/bureaucratic innovation going on in Europe. Soon regimented armies with fire arms and suppy-lines showed up and tore the ottomans apart. Which had no national education system or modern bureaucracies like the Europe.

Why did Europe pull ahead? Mostly we believe its because constant war made the state more necessary powerful and efficient. The Ottoman Empire did not need to fight as many wars as the Empires of Europe. Therefore, they did not "evolve" as fast.

Somalia was always independent of the Ottoman empire, run by their own sultanates, though allied with the Turks and using their own version of Ottoman currency. Arab muslims, once imported into Somalia, became the elite ruling class of the country.

Somalia was also one of the first countries to have firearms, imported by the Ottomans to aid in the somali-portugese, and the ajural-portugese conflict over control of the Indian ocean. This was prioritized by the Ottomans due to their close ties, as a way of contesting Portugese domination of trade in the Indian ocean.

So they weren't just marched on by guys with rifles while they were carrying swords and sharpened sticks; they've had many firearms imported since their first sultanate. Most of the conquest they've faced in their history was not at the hands of the white man, but actually primarily other African nations.

[mickmoranis]

Azzar, can you clue these folks into that what it takes to be the top is to be born into a specific familial circumstance and have the connections to maintain an information flow that contains financial data used for personal gains? Is that Boolean, black and white, dichotomy based enough?

The difference between knowing this to be true, working hard so that you can have your children start in a better place in an economy that allows you to do so VS. thinking its unfair and demanding that those that have had smart and successful people that came before them need give up their earned position in society...

...is the difference between being a pragmatist and being a libtard.

[Xaanka]

The difference between knowing this to be true, working hard so that you can have your children start in a better place in an economy that allows you to do so VS. thinking its unfair and demanding that those that have had smart and successful people that came before them need give up their earned position in society...

...is the difference between being a pragmatist and being a libtard.

tl;dr he has a fair point about old wealth however he's failing to recognize the entire existence of new wealth because he incorrectly treats it as out of reach for the average person and believes anyone creating new wealth only did so because of societal advantages given to them.

so basically he's never read a biography on almost any billionaire.

[Xaanka]

Hell I didn't include him in past posts because we've fallen out of touch and I don't particularly like him very much these days, but the one billionaire I used to be personal friends with was 100% self made as well. At one point he was the wealthiest man on earth. I'd say who it is but I'd get a bunch of "uncle at nintendo shit that didn't happen" replies and I don't feel like digging up proof because I'm lazy, so you can make the incredibly easy guess.

[mickmoranis]

I mean seriously who thinks being in the top 1% is something america promises every citizen? it takes generations to get there, hence being born in special familial circumstances.

Its absurd to be upset that there are ultra rich people, its absurd to be upset about that.

You want to get there, raise your family in a way that makes them want to get there, using the advantages that you provide them.

It's ridiculous that people of shitty families are upset and think they have a right to change the greatest economy on earth to benefit them and their lazy families.

Side note, all that said, it it even actually possible to go from the absolute bottom and make it into the 1% in one life time thanks to america's economic system. Its absurd to think that isnt extremely rare.

[Tankdan]

Noticing a trend on Twitter today...

https://i.imgur.com/vrIYino.jpg

[Xaanka]

I mean seriously who thinks being in the top 1% is something america promises every citizen? it takes generations to get there, hence being born in special familial circumstances.

it doesn't though. short of trust funds, $stupid can't fuck this up money, and parents arranging for someone else to manage their finances, you can barely keep old wealth in most of these peoples' hands. people who never worked for what they have tend not to value it. I was top 0.1%+ in my early 20's and although it wasn't inheritance or anything like that, I made some lucky moves and got rich very quickly doing almost nothing. I then proceeded to piss the majority of it away not working and playing video games until I ran out of money and had to work again.

[fash]

http://i.imgur.com/9ahLGt1.jpg
“God Exists! He Drowned All the Neo-Nazis of Texas”

I hear Charlie Hebdo is already working on their next cartoon for Florida.

[mickmoranis]

it doesn't though. short of trust funds, $stupid can't fuck this up money, and parents arranging for someone else to manage their finances, you can barely keep old wealth in most of these peoples' hands. people who never worked for what they have tend not to value it. I was top 0.1%+ in my early 20's and although it wasn't inheritance or anything like that, I made some lucky moves and got rich very quickly doing almost nothing. I then proceeded to piss the majority of it away not working and playing video games until I ran out of money and had to work again.

my point is the ones that dont lose all their money, arnt lucky, they were calculated children of people who made smart decisions in life specifically to build wealth and maintain a family tradition that puts them at the advantage, that libtards think is just luck.

Its simple: If you have shitty parents, you are poor, if you are poor when you die and have kids, you are a shitty parent (unless) you raised your kids to not be jellous of the money others have. meaning wealth doesnt define parenting quality, but raising a kid whos poor but also wants equality as far as wealth and the conomy goes, then you raised a shitty kid and were a shitty parent.

Juris is poor and jellous, hence his posting, and therefor was raised by shitty parents that he secretly holds animosity towards becuse they didnt put him in a situation where he was upset about a scratch on the bottom of his $500,000 pool.

Im not saying you can get rich by having money, Im not saying you cant get rich by not having money, I am saying that if you raise your kids right, give them advantages then they have a better shot than someone who doesnt.

That isnt luck, that is a calculated decision.

[Rader]

it doesn't though. short of trust funds, $stupid can't fuck this up money, and parents arranging for someone else to manage their finances, you can barely keep old wealth in most of these peoples' hands. people who never worked for what they have tend not to value it.

I frankly am tired of hearing sniveling about kids who inherit wealth. If someone works hard, makes sacrifices, takes risks, and is able to accumulate some money, they should absolutely have the right to try to make their children's lives as comfortable as they can, what is more important than taking care of your children?

[mickmoranis]

You arent born lucky if you're Donald Trump, you're a decision smart people made.

There isnt some magic roulette wheel in the sky and hopefully your number doesn't come up on black before you're born and then out a shoot you go based on your dice roll.

There are real living bags of skin, that either have made good decisions in life and ar making one more (to have you) or they made bad decisions in life, and you are simply another one.

[Rader]

I frankly am tired of hearing sniveling about kids who inherit wealth. If someone works hard, makes sacrifices, takes risks, and is able to accumulate some money, they should absolutely have the right to try to make their children's lives as comfortable as they can, what is more important than taking care of your children?

I mean, I think it is hypocritical to complain about deadbeat dads on one hand, but then bitch about trust fund babies.

[Xaanka]

I frankly am tired of hearing sniveling about kids who inherit wealth. If someone works hard, makes sacrifices, takes risks, and is able to accumulate some money, they should absolutely have the right to try to make their children's lives as comfortable as they can, what is more important than taking care of your children?

I completely agree but what he's saying about "most of the 1%'s wealth being inherited" is just straight up untrue

reality is once you're grown up past being a kid, you don't need to share your toys with anyone you don't want to.

[fash]

I agree -- which is why you can't trust 100% of society to care of themselves. Self-sufficiency is a good personal philosophy and a horrible one for governance. It worked better back when we all farmed the land for a living..that's now how modern societies work. People aren't self sufficient. They are just usually overpaid or underpaid.

You're correct in that you can't trust 100% of a society to care for themselves.

A successful society is built by weeding out its dregs who are incapable of producing something of value and who have failed to build a social safety net. You can't simply incentivize being unsuccessful with gibs -- that only perpetuates the unsuccessful behavior (if that's what you're suggesting. I haven't read exactly what you're proposing).

[Swish]

Noticing a trend on Twitter today...

https://i.imgur.com/vrIYino.jpg

I hope karma finds those people for putting out hate like that, thinking they're any better.

[Xaanka]

since i missed replying to the "who's going to clean the toilets?" question, shit jobs in general were traditionally done by younger men short term as an introduction to the workforce. mass immigration changed that and now we somehow think it's normal that somebody should be able to make it in society working the register at wally world their entire life, failing to recognize that's a recent phenomenon that has left a major negative impact on many facets of manys' lives. this shift has also led to massive youth unemployment which is a problem nobody ever talks about because unemployment figures in the US are hand-designed by Democrats to exclude these people, as they do not qualify for unemployment benefits. to be perfectly honest for most of human history you couldn't just "make it by" doing fuck-nothing your entire life.

and before anyone has the nerve to post some "socialism/communism is the answer" shit try reading about soviet labor camps and come back to me after you've done that.

[brightlights]

SOCIALISM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-Fx6P7d21o)

[JurisDictum]

SOCIALISM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-Fx6P7d21o)

I don't believe in thought crimes. I'm fine with the guy if he doesn't molest any kids.

What do you suggest? We line them all on walls and shoot them?

[brightlights]

You suggest taking peoples money and giving it to him.

[Tankdan]

Featherstone Primary School in [guess the city] posts and then deletes picture

https://i.imgur.com/82MLVu6.jpg

[Pokesan]

Noticing a trend on Twitter today...

https://i.imgur.com/vrIYino.jpg

probably bots and none of them post here but im sure mick will hold me personally accountable because he wants me inside his bhole

i aint see no checkmark

[Xaanka]

I don't believe in thought crimes. I'm fine with the guy if he doesn't molest any kids.

What do you suggest? We line them all on walls and shoot them?

pedophilia without molestation is FAR from a victimless crime, children are harmed in creating the pornography they consume, and even if you make a 2d argument the existence of the pornography encourages pedophiles who DO molest children.

it's not thought crime and it's fucked up to think that way.

personally i think crimes against children (including using them in sex change medical experiments re: progressives) are a strong case for the death penalty and this guy should at least be imprisoned for life (i believe strongly in a rehabilitation model for prisons and IMO he can not be rehabilitated)

in a judicial system with less appeals and costs incurred in execution, i would advocate for his death, but i think life in prison is more fitting because it would minimize the burden he's already created on society and either one takes away his ability to harm a child or contribute to the harming of children. the "a bullet costs" argument doesn't cut it for me, because i feel one's right to appeals before death penalty is just; if anything i think they should be given more chances for appeal, which could be offset by changing the cocktail we kill them with from $50 grand in valium to $20 in fentanyl or "a bullet costs"

pedophiles can never be rehabilitated. the chemical sterilization they use does not stop their ability to get erect or have sexual desires, or orgasm, it only stops them from producing semen (which if anything makes concealing forensics easier) not to mention not having a dick wouldn't even stop someone from molesting a kid (a LOT of infant and toddler molesters are women!)
it's a huge lie from the left that it does. it's the same shit they give trannies in europe, and it's well known that it does noooooooooot take away your sex drive.
didn't south park do a bit about that, with sexual harassment or something? how they just teach them "don't get caught"? it's true.

death is the only option for them.

[Xaanka]

also cursed_socialist_posts.txt

[Jarnauga]

You suggest taking peoples money and giving it to him.

you suggest giving him a tax break, so i guess tax breaks are evil !!!11!!eleven!

[mickmoranis]

you suggest giving him a tax break, so i guess tax breaks are evil !!!11!!eleven!

that's stupid, i dont care what that guy does with his own time, but its stupid to live in a society where those people pay for their meager existences with money that hard working toilet cleaners get from doing work white people (like that guy) are to busy to do because they're posting on pedo forums (like you).

[Xaanka]

you suggest giving him a tax break, so i guess tax breaks are evil !!!11!!eleven!

is it right to hurt someone who has done nothing wrong?

[Cecily]

Sig test in this unread pile of autism.

[mickmoranis]

speaking of reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

http://kotaku.com/indie-dev-calls-for-copyright-strikes-against-pewdiepie-1803099736

quick question, why is it ok to say bitch as a pejorative but not the n word?

[fash]

Because one has the shadow of slavery behind it.

"It will probably be asked, Why not retain and incorporate the blacks into the state, and thus save the expense of supplying, by importation of white settlers, the vacancies they will leave? Deep rooted prejudices entertained by the whites; ten thousand recollections, by the blacks, of the injuries they have sustained; new provocations; the real distinctions which nature has made; and many other circumstances, will divide us into parties, and produce convulsions which will probably never end but in the extermination of the one or the other race."

-- Thomas Jefferson

The decedents of the 300k black slaves will forever claim injustice until one race or the other dies out. White slave masters in the US were too generous. They allowed their black slaves to marry, procreate, and ultimately survive to live among them. Compare that to larger groups of white slaves in times past (e.g. 1 mil or more white christian slaves on the barbary coast), which were all were killed, quelling their grievances.

[brightlights]

I dont use the n word but seriously its probubly time we stopped pretending that it meant racism everytime its used.

I mean lets be real, every fucking democrat has a hard on for harry potter and they think what, harmoni is a nazi for saying fear of a name only increases fear of a thing itself?

The left is bringing back racism way more than anyone on the right.

[fash]

The left is bringing back racism way more than anyone on the right.

Who gains from stoking the fires of racism?

The decedents of...

oops. descendants*

[Pokesan]

I dont use the n word but seriously its probubly time we stopped pretending that it meant racism everytime its used.

I mean lets be real, every fucking democrat has a hard on for harry potter and they think what, harmoni is a nazi for saying fear of a name only increases fear of a thing itself?

The left is bringing back racism way more than anyone on the right.

hermoine granger would never say the n word

[Pokesan]

"im not racist i just think whites made a mistake in allowing blacks to breed"

cool dude :cool:

[Xaanka]

"im not racist but i advocate for white genocide openly" - average leftie

yawn

everyone's racist and in the closet about it

most blacks in america who whine about slavery don't descend from slaves. none of my ancestors owned slaves or were even in the country until very recently and i feel no guilt over it. blacks themselves were major players in the global slave trade, and if anything slave owners in the US largely only played the role of being just consumers, and not even the biggest group of them. reality doesn't really fit the agenda of "evil white pilgrims came to africa and ripped these innocent people out of tents" it was a regular and accepted thing in the world until oh, who other than white europeans ended it in the western sphere. look where slavery's still alive and well, sure as hell isn't white countries.

[JurisDictum]

An article that points out that the college is system is mostly their to re-enforce inequality:

https://www.politico.com/interactives/2017/top-college-rankings-list-2017-us-news-investigation/

Higher education in America is a fiercely competitive enterprise. It’s a market-based system in which status is largely based on perception — a university’s prestige has an inordinate effect on who applies and how easily students are able to get jobs with lucrative employers. And the mark of prestige, in recent decades, has been a ratings system begun by the nation’s third-largest news magazine.


We're basically living in a cast system at this point as Mic admits. Your born into a certain caste and only with hard work can you hope your kid goes a caste up.

[Xaanka]

there's so much (((revisionism))) of the history of slavery being taught in the Little Red Schoolhouse that the average american's mind is so warped.

if you go to wikipedia right now, to the article on the atlantic slave trade, there's quite literally a list of slave ships with every single jewish owned slave ship edited out. you'll find the same in most history books written after WWII. if you read any book on the topic from before, you'll see those included.

portugal and brazil dominated the atlantic slave trade until around 1700, at which time the dutch dominated the trade. (((coincidentally))) that's around the time the inquisition really ramped up and the last of the jewish merchants fled portugal and spain for the netherlands, and a bit later portugal retook brazil and expelled the jews from there (most went to Surinam and later Curaco)

later on the brits did claim and enforce a monopoly over the slave trade to its own colonies, however the americas were only one of many consumers and this was only shortly before the americas outlawed slavery.

but of course you're not allowed to say these things because it involves a group of people you're not allowed to criticize ever :rolleyes:

[Swish]

there's so much (((revisionism))) of the history of slavery being taught in the Little Red Schoolhouse that the average american's mind is so warped.

if you go to wikipedia right now, to the article on the atlantic slave trade, there's quite literally a list of slave ships with every single jewish owned slave ship edited out. you'll find the same in most history books written after WWII. if you read any book on the topic from before, you'll see those included.

portugal and brazil dominated the atlantic slave trade until around 1700, at which time the dutch dominated the trade. (((coincidentally))) that's around the time the inquisition really ramped up and the last of the jewish merchants fled portugal and spain for the netherlands, and a bit later portugal retook brazil and expelled the jews from there (most went to Surinam and later Curaco)

later on the brits did claim and enforce a monopoly over the slave trade to its own colonies, however the americas were only one of many consumers and this was only shortly before the americas outlawed slavery.

but of course you're not allowed to say these things because it involves a group of people you're not allowed to criticize ever :rolleyes:

Add in that the Ottoman Empire took white Christian slaves (Slavic ones) from around modern day Serbia/Bosnia/Croatia who served as janissaries.

Barbary pirates enslaving Europeans before all of what's been mentioned.

The history of slavery is quite complex and of course, still exists in parts of the world. Nobody is jumping up and down trying to end that though, right? I'd expect African Americans to be all over trying to free child labor slaves, or the Chinese on cheap wages who make iPhones for the west.

Easier to blame whitey though, while buying 10 pairs of slave created sneakers (yes I know I'm generalizing)

[AzzarTheGod]

An article that points out that the college is system is mostly their to re-enforce inequality:

https://www.politico.com/interactives/2017/top-college-rankings-list-2017-us-news-investigation/



We're basically living in a cast system at this point as Mic admits. Your born into a certain caste and only with hard work can you hope your kid goes a caste up.

dunks

[AzzarTheGod]

there's so much (((revisionism))) of the history of slavery being taught in the Little Red Schoolhouse that the average american's mind is so warped.

if you go to wikipedia right now, to the article on the atlantic slave trade, there's quite literally a list of slave ships with every single jewish owned slave ship edited out. you'll find the same in most history books written after WWII. if you read any book on the topic from before, you'll see those included.

portugal and brazil dominated the atlantic slave trade until around 1700, at which time the dutch dominated the trade. (((coincidentally))) that's around the time the inquisition really ramped up and the last of the jewish merchants fled portugal and spain for the netherlands, and a bit later portugal retook brazil and expelled the jews from there (most went to Surinam and later Curaco)

later on the brits did claim and enforce a monopoly over the slave trade to its own colonies, however the americas were only one of many consumers and this was only shortly before the americas outlawed slavery.

but of course you're not allowed to say these things because it involves a group of people you're not allowed to criticize ever :rolleyes:


double dunks

[AzzarTheGod]

Add in that the Ottoman Empire took white Christian slaves (Slavic ones) from around modern day Serbia/Bosnia/Croatia who served as janissaries.

Barbary pirates enslaving Europeans before all of what's been mentioned.

The history of slavery is quite complex and of course, still exists in parts of the world. Nobody is jumping up and down trying to end that though, right? I'd expect African Americans to be all over trying to free child labor slaves, or the Chinese on cheap wages who make iPhones for the west.

Easier to blame whitey though, while buying 10 pairs of slave created sneakers (yes I know I'm generalizing)


T-t-treble dunks

[Xaanka]

yeah i ask a lot of lefties who get up in arms about slavery why they buy clothes manufactured or made from textiles made using slave labor. turns out their convictions are strong enough to blame an entire race of people for something that happened in the fucking early modern period, but not strong enough to spend $50 on a tee shirt made in a first would country.

[Lune]

Add in that the Ottoman Empire took white Christian slaves (Slavic ones) from around modern day Serbia/Bosnia/Croatia who served as janissaries.

Barbary pirates enslaving Europeans before all of what's been mentioned.

The history of slavery is quite complex and of course, still exists in parts of the world. Nobody is jumping up and down trying to end that though, right? I'd expect African Americans to be all over trying to free child labor slaves, or the Chinese on cheap wages who make iPhones for the west.

Easier to blame whitey though, while buying 10 pairs of slave created sneakers (yes I know I'm generalizing)

yeah i ask a lot of lefties who get up in arms about slavery why they buy clothes manufactured or made from textiles made using slave labor. turns out their convictions are strong enough to blame an entire race of people for something that happened in the fucking early modern period, but not strong enough to spend $50 on a tee shirt made in a first would country.

Appealing to a perfect solution (the end of all slavery) or to perfect morality (expecting people seeking justice for one issue to seek justice for all issues) says nothing about whether African Americans' causes are righteous.

[Pokesan]

only an unimpeachable messiah may speak without disruption in the land of maga where the shadows lie

[Xaanka]

Appealing to a perfect solution (the end of all slavery) or to perfect morality (expecting people seeking justice for one issue to seek justice for all issues) says nothing about whether African Americans' causes are righteous.

those sure are some mental hoops you gotta jump through to rationalize condemning people who never contributed to slavery while directly financially contributing to slavery

you see guise it's a different issue because the slaves are se asian!!!!1

[JurisDictum]

Add in that the Ottoman Empire took white Christian slaves (Slavic ones) from around modern day Serbia/Bosnia/Croatia who served as janissaries.

Barbary pirates enslaving Europeans before all of what's been mentioned.

The history of slavery is quite complex and of course, still exists in parts of the world. Nobody is jumping up and down trying to end that though, right? I'd expect African Americans to be all over trying to free child labor slaves, or the Chinese on cheap wages who make iPhones for the west.

Easier to blame whitey though, while buying 10 pairs of slave created sneakers (yes I know I'm generalizing)

History is a complicated topic and we are discovering new things or coming up with different opinions all the time. A lot of times their isn't a coherent agenda in historical translation -- its just what happens to be popular when History Majors went to school.

Currently -- there is a lot coming out about the Crusades. This myth that their was 1 big battle between Muslims and Christians in the Levant. Often portraying the Crusaders as aberrations of Christianity rather than realistic representatives for their age. Muslims by contrast are viewed as at their peak during this era -- ideal representatives of what the religion could be today.

The truth is...the Crusades were mostly about Eastern Orthodox Christians, Jews, and Barbarians. There were hundreds of different "crusades" during this era, we just hear about the Kingdom of Heaven scene basically. The Muslims kind of kicked our ass over Jerusalem, and were totally not hung up with the Crusades until a bunch of Historical revisionism to fan the flames of colonial resentment came along.

The entire violent terrorist wing of Islam started with colonialism. They told their conservatives this story about how we are continuing the crusades to this day -- and thanks to the conduct of Israel -- a lot of people buy that shit.

One thing that Professors are finally starting to admit from what I've seen (I was sitting in a class the other day for Politics of the War on Terror) -- is that colonialism isn't any worse than just letting a country figure it out for themselves. We paid our price for modernization in blood. Everyone must -- except colonial peoples can fast forward time by basically "working for" the modern countries. Not that we deserve a medal for it -- we do it because we get net gains from the trade.

There is a argument to made that neo-colonialism is a lot worse than good ol' fashion "we run shit here now brownie" colonialism. Because the latter actually takes more responsibility for the country the the former. Modern colonialism generally consists of giving the right guys military intelligence and weapons to ensure we get a good price on rubber or diamonds or whatever. It was better for the natives when we set up shop and opened schools -- despite all the racism and abuse.

Not saying we need more colonialism...just saying I think neo-colonialism actually is worse and we are doing that atm.

[mickmoranis]

Who gains from stoking the fires of racism?

1. hip hop artists
2. democrat politicians
3. media outlets

[mickmoranis]

We're basically living in a cast system at this point as Mic admits. Your born into a certain caste and only with hard work can you hope your kid goes a caste up.

The silly thing about calling this a caste system, is that anyone is free to move to any caste they want, by simply working. You seem to think in a socialist society that the 1% people would be on the same field as the bottom 1% people. Thats ludacris... in socialist society it would be, exactly the same.

What could possibly be a more fair system? Seriously? are you advocating that people taht dont work should be at the exact same economic level that people that do work? How is socialism any different? The only difference is that the people that dont work have a minor amount more of money, like seirously, a smidgen more, than htey get in america.

You said it yourself Juris. If you can move up out of a cast by simply WORKING then how is it a caste system? Its just a hustle. Life. is. work.

I know adult children dont want it to be, becuse all the maccaronie and cheese their mom gave them during D&D night when they were kiddos... but when you grow up, that comes to an end.

Like if it was 1800, you'd be laying around saying, "the wilderness has a conspiracy to kill us! Why cant the wilderness just stop it with the blood poisoning and tifloid, its not fair!!"

Life is hard, work at it, if you think that they're going to let you live on that gay colony of libtards on mars one day, without pulling your weight up there, then you're mistaken buckaroo.

[Raavak]

You said it yourself Juris. If you can move up out of a cast by simply WORKING then how is it a caste system? Its just a hustle. Life. is. work.Hmmm yeah that doesn't fit the definition. In a true caste system you are born into your caste and no real freedom to change. Many people change their socio-economic class. I have.

[mickmoranis]

hermoine granger would never say the n word

Its intersting. If someone says the n word,

..a normal person thinks "who cares" a triggery person thinks "REEE!~!~~"

funny thing is, a black person can be the normal person or the white person can be the normal person, it makes no difference, same with the triggery person. As a white person, you can share an equal amount of "im offended!" when you hear the n word, as a black person does. Why?

Why can a white person be as offended?

Ill tell you why. Becuse the triggery people, white or black, ARENT really offended. They are nasty foul people that want to feel better about themselves. They have nasty foul thoughts about all kinds of things and the only way to make themselves feel better about the nasty shit that goes on in the back of their minds, is to pubically shame someone else.

It shouldn't be surprising.

Like, I'm a nasty foul person, so i have no qualms shaming other people. Makes me feel better. I love to shame stupid people, I get off on it.

But I dont go around acting like some liberal holy warrior, trying to make the world a better place. I admit that Im foul, that I want everyone to die and I want the world to come to a screeching halt with the lamentation of the world echoing in the fire as the earth burns to a cinder.

TL;DR if you're offended by the nword, it doesn't matter the color of your skin, the only person who has a right to be offended is a 65+ year old black person.

Anyone else, is offended because they are racist, they are foul, and miserable and what makes them worse is if they are democrats pretending that their shit doesn't stink.

Next generation will use the nword the way we use fuck, teh last generation thought the same about the f word as we think the n word.

Get the fuck overyourself

[Csihar]

Lol, it's pretty damn easy to change your socio-economic class. A severe drug addiction does wonders.

[Whirled]

Countless people have died to give freedom of speech here in America. Any turd that thinks they have a right to not be offended should be jettisoned into space.

[AzzarTheGod]

Lol, it's pretty damn easy to change your socio-economic class. A severe drug addiction does wonders.

pras CIA for helping eliminate of the climbers

1% means 1% bitch

[JurisDictum]

The land of opportunity

8858

Unless your really charming and intelligent -- your poor for life. Good luck being a young charming intelligent professional if you grew up poor. Chances are you won't even read at a god damn 12 grade level when you enter college poor. Your not going to be that big pockets demand of young college graduates. Big law firms in New York literally won't hire you unless your parents are rich -- if if your the most intelligent college kid there.

It really is amazing to see people argue that its everything under the sun other than what it obviously is -- the wealthy have entrenched their wealth and opportunity is lower than ever.

It's getting worse. The solutions free market fanatics come up with aren't working.

[AzzarTheGod]

The land of opportunity

8858

Unless your really charming and intelligent -- your poor for life. Good luck being a young charming intelligent professional if you grew up poor. Chances are you won't even read at a god damn 12 grade level when you enter college poor. Your not going to be that big pockets demand of young college graduates. Big law firms in New York literally won't hire you unless your parents are rich -- if if your the most intelligent college kid there.

It really is amazing to see people argue that its everything under the sun other than what it obviously is -- the wealthy have entrenched their wealth and opportunity is lower than ever.

It's getting worse. The solutions free market fanatics come up with aren't working.


lmao so many dunks on the Fat King's policies in this post. I wonder when people will stop denying hard math.

Trickle down and so-called "tax-cut opportunities" are stuff of religion. Most of these kids don't believe in religion, yet there are those (aside from Patriam) who actually think current US policy for the past 30 years has been successful.

Who is denying there is a war on the middle class? You have to be insane. Stop voting for Russian oligarchs ya morons.

[AzzarTheGod]

down over

[AzzarTheGod]

The land of opportunity

8858

Unless your really charming and intelligent -- your poor for life. Good luck being a young charming intelligent professional if you grew up poor. Chances are you won't even read at a god damn 12 grade level when you enter college poor. Your not going to be that big pockets demand of young college graduates. Big law firms in New York literally won't hire you unless your parents are rich -- if if your the most intelligent college kid there.

It really is amazing to see people argue that its everything under the sun other than what it obviously is -- the wealthy have entrenched their wealth and opportunity is lower than ever.

It's getting worse. The solutions free market fanatics come up with aren't working.

RE-BOMB RE-BOMB RE-BOMB



Additional dunks on topic


Most of my friends in the tri-state area (Catholic et al) went to Jesuit schools and such, good top 40 schools. While in their later years they started realizing through internships that they needed a leg up somehow and Jesuit schools have a lack of Greek life or fraternity of any meaning.

This is where the homosexual agenda comes into play.

So some of my good friends began to transition and orient away from a straight life in promise of greater economic success to be had, with more of a social/charming/gay love scene.

Anyone familiar with NYC or Midtown Manhattan knows what I am talking about. A lot of college graduates start flirting with full blown homosexuality out of desperation for exceptionalism or what they think will lead to success. He would return from NYC and tell us about how great it was. We were all kind of shocked since he had never had any gay leanings before and had dated all women and talked about girls his entire life.

I haven't talked to 1 of them in about 6 years since he got too deep into the gay obsession while trying to find success in the Finance industry. Prior to becoming gay, he was dropped by JP Morgan for lack of sufficient education (non-Ivy, yet top 40). He was then dropped by Bank of America during the 2009 recession.

Think I should give him a call and see where his career is at?

[brightlights]

lmao so many dunks on the Fat King's policies in this post. I wonder when people will stop denying hard math.

Trickle down and so-called "tax-cut opportunities" are stuff of religion. Most of these kids don't believe in religion, yet there are those (aside from Patriam) who actually think current US policy for the past 30 years has been successful.

Who is denying there is a war on the middle class? You have to be insane. Stop voting for Russian oligarchs ya morons.

name one real world country or society where you dont get money by exploiting the environment with short sighted oil deposits where anyone has a better shot at making it out of their economic situation than america?

GO:

[maskedmelonpai]

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Additional dunks on topic


Most of my friends in the tri-state area (Catholic et al) went to Jesuit schools and such, good top 40 schools. While in their later years they started realizing through internships that they needed a leg up somehow and Jesuit schools have a lack of Greek life or fraternity of any meaning.

This is where the homosexual agenda comes into play.

So some of my good friends began to transition and orient away from a straight life in promise of greater economic success to be had, with more of a social/charming/gay love scene.

Anyone familiar with NYC or Midtown Manhattan knows what I am talking about. A lot of college graduates start flirting with full blown homosexuality out of desperation for exceptionalism or what they think will lead to success. He would return from NYC and tell us about how great it was. We were all kind of shocked since he had never had any gay leanings before and had dated all women and talked about girls his entire life.

I haven't talked to 1 of them in about 6 years since he got too deep into the gay obsession while trying to find success in the Finance industry. Prior to becoming gay, he was dropped by JP Morgan for lack of sufficient education (non-Ivy, yet top 40). He was then dropped by Bank of America during the 2009 recession.

Think I should give him a call and see where his career is at?


lol

[brightlights]

RE-BOMB RE-BOMB RE-BOMB



Additional dunks on topic


Most of my friends in the tri-state area (Catholic et al) went to Jesuit schools and such, good top 40 schools. While in their later years they started realizing through internships that they needed a leg up somehow and Jesuit schools have a lack of Greek life or fraternity of any meaning.

This is where the homosexual agenda comes into play.

So some of my good friends began to transition and orient away from a straight life in promise of greater economic success to be had, with more of a social/charming/gay love scene.

Anyone familiar with NYC or Midtown Manhattan knows what I am talking about. A lot of college graduates start flirting with full blown homosexuality out of desperation for exceptionalism or what they think will lead to success. He would return from NYC and tell us about how great it was. We were all kind of shocked since he had never had any gay leanings before and had dated all women and talked about girls his entire life.

I haven't talked to 1 of them in about 6 years since he got too deep into the gay obsession while trying to find success in the Finance industry. Prior to becoming gay, he was dropped by JP Morgan for lack of sufficient education (non-Ivy, yet top 40). He was then dropped by Bank of America during the 2009 recession.

Think I should give him a call and see where his career is at?

what's your point? homosexuality is a choice? hmm interesting.

[AzzarTheGod]

what's your point? homosexuality is a choice? hmm interesting.


Anyone who has spent time outside can see that firsthand.

This finance guy was very serious about women (he often talked about how to find a virgin, because I believe he was insecure about his penis size. You can find virgins in Jesuit schools, so his quest was not weird or outlandish) and bleached his bedsheets with this one girls urine all throughout undergraduate school. (women can lose bladder control during sex, some more than others)

The roommates attested the sheets changed color within a few months, period.

Its a choice.

[brightlights]

oh snap

[JurisDictum]

There are plenty of guys that refuse to be gay.

Some guys on the other hand == obviously are a lot more open to it.

And some guys refuse to have sex with women.

Seems like common sense stuff to me. Gay is a choice some of the time. Some are just freak'in really gay.

[Patriam1066]

The land of opportunity

8858

Unless your really charming and intelligent -- your poor for life. Good luck being a young charming intelligent professional if you grew up poor. Chances are you won't even read at a god damn 12 grade level when you enter college poor. Your not going to be that big pockets demand of young college graduates. Big law firms in New York literally won't hire you unless your parents are rich -- if if your the most intelligent college kid there.

It really is amazing to see people argue that its everything under the sun other than what it obviously is -- the wealthy have entrenched their wealth and opportunity is lower than ever.

It's getting worse. The solutions free market fanatics come up with aren't working.

90% of people agree with this

It's just when you shriek white privilege to a poor redneck with less opportunity than an inner city black kid it alienates people. Also, when someone tells me about racism in America I have to ask why I'm in the top 2% of incomes by barely trying just like every other Persian, Indian, and East Asian I've ever met in my life

We all know the math. Take the emotion out of it (racism drives everything boo hoo!!!) and people might listen. Not gonna lie though, the two parent household is why Persians and Asians and Mormons are successful and it would be great if y'all gave a fuck about the decline in the family here compared to Northern Europe, where 90% of kids are still born to wedded parents as opposed to ~60% ish here

[Patriam1066]

PS if you have a child and don't marry his or her mother you are beneath contempt

[Nilstoniakrath]

what's your point? homosexuality is a choice? hmm interesting.

Libturds always fall back on the argument that being gay is something one is born with, and that you can't do anything about that orientation, so we must accept and embrace that.

But what if being conservative or libertarian, and supporting politicians such as Trump, is something that one is born with? They sure as F ain't going to accept and embrace THAT, EVER.

[Ahldagor]

90% of people agree with this

It's just when you shriek white privilege to a poor redneck with less opportunity than an inner city black kid it alienates people. Also, when someone tells me about racism in America I have to ask why I'm in the top 2% of incomes by barely trying just like every other Persian, Indian, and East Asian I've ever met in my life

We all know the math. Take the emotion out of it (racism drives everything boo hoo!!!) and people might listen. Not gonna lie though, the two parent household is why Persians and Asians and Mormons are successful and it would be great if y'all gave a fuck about the decline in the family here compared to Northern Europe, where 90% of kids are still born to wedded parents as opposed to ~60% ish here

Danke. Du hast einer alter denkt, aber eines Mutter und Vater eines guttes Hahse gemacht.

Or you coukd check maternity and paternity leaves, tax breaks, cost of raising (includes health care, food, education, etc etc), and personal cultural views. Don't try to pick a starting point on a circle, but I understand it's what is indoctrinated into most.

[hyejin]

^that was a good post!

[Patriam1066]

Danke. Du hast einer alter denkt, aber eines Mutter und Vater eines guttes Hahse gemacht.

Or you coukd check maternity and paternity leaves, tax breaks, cost of raising (includes health care, food, education, etc etc), and personal cultural views. Don't try to pick a starting point on a circle, but I understand it's what is indoctrinated into most.

I don't disagree, I just wish people spent half the time they do complaining about legitimate gripes they have about inherent inequalities in the system and instead actually did the best they could

I'll be honest with you, a nation that is 50% obese and 40% single mothers isn't even trying anymore

[Ahldagor]

I don't disagree, I just wish people spent half the time they do complaining about legitimate gripes they have about inherent inequalities in the system and instead actually did the best they could

I'll be honest with you, a nation that is 50% obese and 40% single mothers isn't even trying anymore

Nope. The money wolves feasted in the Reagan years, and the ants cleaning up the carcass are starting to eat themselves.

I apologize for my typos in the previous post because I have intoxicated thumbs.

[mickmoranis]

its not easy to take someone seriously that calls you a nazi, but its hilarious to watch them eat themselves to death like pizza the hutt did in spaceballs

https://thedailybanter.com/2017/09/hillary-should-sit-down-and-shut-up-when-bernie-does-draft-share-preview-publish/

[Pokesan]

pendulum politics is gonna be pretty bad for you guys after trump

but it don't mean a thing if bankers don't swing

[Xaanka]

basically the difference between progressives and nationalists outside domestic social issues stems from one group saying bankers and the other group saying who all the bankers are :cool:

[AzzarTheGod]

basically the difference between progressives and nationalists outside domestic social issues stems from one group saying bankers and the other group saying who all the bankers are :cool:

solid keks

*daps post*

[Xaanka]

oh nooooooo nationalists want to be the 982309580238509328502th nation to expel the jews what ever will we do :eek::eek::eek::eek: literoly hotlar

[AzzarTheGod]

Not gonna lie though, the two parent household is why Persians and Asians and Mormons are successful and it would be great if y'all gave a fuck about the decline in the family here compared to Northern Europe, where 90% of kids are still born to wedded parents as opposed to ~60% ish here

Gotta check you on that. Its not a matter of giving a fuck, its a racial and cultural difference.

You just listed 3 races PERSIAN, ASIAN, MORMON that exhibit very close tight-knit behavior, almost tribal-like community bonding and organization.

Persians in Los Angeles for example tend to network closely.

Asians have been doing it for hundreds of years better than anyone. Buying entire blocks of neighborhoods in LA.

Mormons are basically a super-fraternity that will make you a multi-millionaire as long as you are a very good Mormon and get very active in the Church and volunteering. As long as you demonstrate some entrepreneurial spirit and business acumen.



What Xaanka et al is saying is, white people want to have some of that stuff too. And we can't have it without nationalism. Why? I have no idea. We just lost something that will never come back the past few decades. Is it because white people are more succeptible to suggestive music, suggestive themes, and nihilist lifestyles? I don't know. Dare I say whites have no intrinsic domestic cultural identity? What is a white identity? "I'm a berglord who posts on 4chan", for the men. And for the women "I want extreme commitment in a casual relationship but I also want tons of money. I'm willing to throw abusive tantrums if these demands aren't met within a menstrual cycle" Is that what being white has come down to? It was not that way in the 1950's. Whites used to be the pillars of family values.

Unlike a lot of people we can recognize the true roots of nationalism, and it has nothing to do with hating another race. That's a nice trick though pokesan likes to pull.

[Xaanka]

yeah the first thing you have to realize is that they have very legitimate grievances, and it doesn't help that the political mainstream has isolated these people as they're not taken seriously with these. that's how a lot of the radicalization begins tbqh.

the thing a lot of whites don't realize is that they have deeper and richer history than just about any other culture on the planet; however there's been a huge push to destroy it the past few decades. especially western religion. one thing i've noticed is that shortly after getting into the politicks side of it, a lot of nationalist types get really into history and philisophy religion etc.

it's a huge mistake to equate white nationalists to white supremacy movements of the past (neonazis, kkk, nazis, etc)
nationalists differ in that they're a non violent movement (only seek to change immigration policy) and a lot of their grievances come rooted in things more like crime statistics and less like hating all brown people just because one pissed you off that one time.

i don't really agree with them on a ton of things but i don't see anything particularly problematic with anything they want to do. by contrast i'm seeing the progressives and sjw's clamoring at the gates to destroy my first amendment etc.

[Xaanka]

Why? I have no idea. We just lost something that will never come back the past few decades. Is it because white people are more succeptible to suggestive music, suggestive themes, and nihilist lifestyles? I don't know. Dare I say whites have no intrinsic domestic cultural identity? What is a white identity? "I'm a berglord who posts on 4chan", for the men. And for the women "I want extreme commitment in a casual relationship but I also want tons of money.

read the culture of critique lol
even if you think it's totally wrong its a case study in the mindset

[AzzarTheGod]

one thing i've noticed is that shortly after getting into the politicks side of it, a lot of nationalist types get really into history and philisophy religion etc.



Been getting woke with Alan Watts recently https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vaaJP6fpJ0

read the culture of critique lol
even if you think it's totally wrong its a case study in the mindset


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[Xaanka]

oh god my speleling

[AzzarTheGod]

oh god my speleling

merely intended to highlight the subject matter associated w/ the post. got ptsd from the plankings its ok.

[Ahldagor]

It's proly more economic in origin. Middle class swelled so much it popped like Greenspan intended with the housing market.

[Patriam1066]

Persians in LA are dickheads I agree

[Pokesan]

selling oil to fund healthcare isn't as cool as selling weapons to foment terrorism

dumb nords

[maskedmelonpai]

but the oil from they homes just steal revenue from disadvantaged middle eastern persons who have to turn to violence as a outlet for they anguish. weapons help them quell they anguish and given them a measure of security in the face of the uncertainty created by raiders abroad stealing the lifeblood of they nations. it really not cool.

[Patriam1066]

selling oil to fund healthcare isn't as cool as selling weapons to foment terrorism

dumb nords

Yeah much better to import Somalis and Iraqis and have your own terrorism

Dumb nords indeed

[Pokesan]

Yeah much better to import Somalis and Iraqis and have your own terrorism

Dumb nords indeed

why pay retail?

[mickmoranis]

Funfact: The new Bodega app somehow turns vending machines into racist things.

[Raavak]

Funfact: The new Bodega app somehow turns vending machines into racist things.Oops, I was just at the Bodega Brew Pub (http://www.bodegabrewpublax.com/) eating and drinking beer, I guess I am racist.

[Pokesan]

Funfact: The new Bodega app somehow turns vending machines into racist things.

seems fine hope they sell booze

[maskedmelonpai]

anybody hear this? Google under assault from googlers who think how google encourage they think.

WHO might have thought this could happen?


WHO?

[mickmoranis]

hmm sounds like we should consider increasing sanctions with north korea again LOL

just rip off the bandaid already!

[mickmoranis]

Liberals gang up on some guy that works at google to get him fired and its "the right thing to do" but when conservatives do it to an illegal they think its harassment. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8ZCdOiTYlo)

[Rader]

Liberals gang up on some guy that works at google to get him fired and its "the right thing to do" but when conservatives do it to an illegal they think its harassment. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8ZCdOiTYlo)

Your white privilege is disgusting, I don't know how you live with yourself.

[Pokesan]

Liberals gang up on some guy that works at google to get him fired and its "the right thing to do" but when conservatives do it to an illegal they think its harassment. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8ZCdOiTYlo)

deport all illegals castrate all males

[Rader]

deport all illegals castrate all males

Don't you really want to deport all contards and castrate all heteronormatives?

[Ahldagor]

So cute seeing y'all clamour for conflict resolution.

[Pokesan]

https://i.imgur.com/10ZECz9.png

[Jarnauga]

oh nooooooo nationalists want to be the 982309580238509328502th nation to expel the jews what ever will we do :eek::eek::eek::eek: literoly hotlar

you're half a inch away to walk with tiki torches chanting "jews will not replace us" :rolleyes:

[mickmoranis]

Liberals think people should be fired for supporting white nationalism.

Liberals think its unfair anchor is fired for supporting anti trump.

....

YOU CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS GOD DAMMIT START ww3 ALREADY JESUS PLZ

[Pokesan]

Liberals think people should be fired for supporting white nationalism.

Liberals think its unfair anchor is fired for supporting anti trump.

....

YOU CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS GOD DAMMIT START ww3 ALREADY JESUS PLZ

https://twitter.com/sluggahjells/status/908775683257708546

[mickmoranis]

mars is going to be the fucking gayest colony

[AzzarTheGod]

https://i.imgur.com/10ZECz9.png

i lay by my banana

dunkin n punkin monkies

aint nobody vote 4 the fat king but a bunch of junkies

[Pokesan]

i lay by my banana

dunkin n punkin monkies

aint nobody vote 4 the fat king but a bunch of junkies

https://i.imgur.com/rWEEipm.jpg

[Shrubwise]

https://i.imgur.com/rWEEipm.jpg

Praise it 🙌🏻

[Xaanka]

https://i.imgur.com/rWEEipm.jpg

full big dog wardrobe

[Rader]

https://i.imgur.com/rWEEipm.jpg

Finally something I can vote for.

[Pokesan]

Finally something I can vote for.

https://i.imgur.com/ot9Uj.jpg

[mickmoranis]

trump is the best president our generation has had our generation just so dumb it dont know it.

[Swish]

He's got a pair of balls at least.

If Marine Le Pen had won the French presidential election and the UK had actually been given the Brexit we voted for there'd be some interesting times in Western Europe right now.

[AzzarTheGod]

He's got a pair of balls at least.

If Marine Le Pen had won the French presidential election and the UK had actually been given the Brexit we voted for there'd be some interesting times in Western Europe right now.

Globalism will not die quietly. Literally every aspect of government and every intelligence service supports globalism in one way or another. Its just a matter of "what globalism we are going to have". Brexit was still a step in the right direction, a vote against the EU is a vote against raw deals.

I wonder if the 1950's intelligence services (90% of the founding fathers of the Central Intelligence Agency are long dead) agree with the TPP, open borders, or any of these other things.

Then again, I am sure they don't care what kind of government we have since they are essentially god and can control any aspect of any economic dealing should they choose to get involved. Same goes for the MI6. If Britain wants something done economically it will get done.

[Lune]

You know importing a perpetually impoverished underclass to do society's bitchwork is actually pretty a pretty solid deal if you're well off enough to live in an affluent suburban enclave where their strange customs cant bother you.

Problems arise when you realize they're just as smart as you are and they aren't just getting imported to do bitchwork, they are coming for your highly skilled professional job, and they're going to be able to afford to live in your suburb. But they're still gonna have strange customs and mostly keep to themselves for a couple generations and it's gonna be weird going to see an optometrist who grew up in Bangladesh and can hardly relate to your life and the lens through which you see the world.

So what you do is vote for someone like Donald Trump who says he is going to crack down on professional organizations using these visas to get cheap professional labor, but what actually happens is Trump only cares about being a reality tv star and can't or won't confront the machinery that keeps this problem in place. The only way to do that is to replace your Congressman (both D and R) with someone who isn't willing to sell you out, but we haven't figured that out yet.

[mickmoranis]

vote up and down the ticket in 416 days for whoever trump tells you to.

[Pokesan]

forget boxing, today is juggalos vs nazis live in dc

woop woop

[mickmoranis]

the best the democratic party has to offer

https://i.imgur.com/ZgG8mRj.png

[Pokesan]

the best the democratic party has to offer

https://i.imgur.com/ZgG8mRj.png

oh boy another coastal techbro looking down on middle America:rolleyes:

[mickmoranis]

oh boy another costal tecbro thinking middle america are juggalos

[Pokesan]

oh boy another costal tecbro thinking middle america are juggalos

the gathering is in the midwest dumdum

[mickmoranis]

oh so that must mean everyone in the midwest is a juggalo just like every conservitive is a nazi are you 13 years old?

[Pokesan]

oh so that must mean everyone in the midwest is a juggalo just like every conservitive is a nazi are you 13 years old?

no. i never said that. you said that.

why?

[mickmoranis]

this is like when an ex girlfriend texts you

[Pokesan]

this is like when an ex girlfriend texts you

you are heaping scorn on a (largely white) segment of the underclass. knock it off.

[mickmoranis]

you are being stupid and fat.

[AzzarTheGod]

So what you do is vote for someone like Donald Trump who says he is going to crack down on professional organizations using these visas to get cheap professional labor, but what actually happens is Trump only cares about being a reality tv star and can't or won't confront the machinery that keeps this problem in place. The only way to do that is to replace your Congressman (both D and R) with someone who isn't willing to sell you out, but we haven't figured that out yet.

Bannon did say he was going to begin using Breitbart to confront the Machinery. He used the word "war".

aka Ryan and McConnell. To a lesser extent Rubio.

How long do you think Bannon has to live if he is successful in his so-called "war"? Andrew didn't make it past 44.

[AzzarTheGod]

whoooo im feeling some bands...*cough tourettes* again bros

might be droppin some heatrocks in this thread real real soon. better get a heatshield bc there is nothing else u can do about it i run this motherfucker u just live here

*flicks toothpick in general direction of thread*

[Patriam1066]

You know importing a perpetually impoverished underclass to do society's bitchwork is actually pretty a pretty solid deal if you're well off enough to live in an affluent suburban enclave where their strange customs cant bother you.

Problems arise when you realize they're just as smart as you are and they aren't just getting imported to do bitchwork, they are coming for your highly skilled professional job, and they're going to be able to afford to live in your suburb. But they're still gonna have strange customs and mostly keep to themselves for a couple generations and it's gonna be weird going to see an optometrist who grew up in Bangladesh and can hardly relate to your life and the lens through which you see the world.

So what you do is vote for someone like Donald Trump who says he is going to crack down on professional organizations using these visas to get cheap professional labor, but what actually happens is Trump only cares about being a reality tv star and can't or won't confront the machinery that keeps this problem in place. The only way to do that is to replace your Congressman (both D and R) with someone who isn't willing to sell you out, but we haven't figured that out yet.

Nah, it was always a bad idea

Hope this helps!

[Swish]

None of it will matter when those precision North Korea nukes hit (hehe)

[mickmoranis]

the world is starting to learn that liberal shit do stink as pretty boy truedaue gon get in trubble (https://www.spencerfernando.com/2017/09/14/report-trudeau-become-first-pm-found-violation-federal-law-power/)

For many Canadians, Trudeau becoming the first PM found in violation of federal law while in office would simply confirm what is already becoming obvious to millions: Trudeau believes there is one set of rules for the elites like him, and another for the rest of us. He sees Canadians as his servants, rather than seeking to serve Canadians as a true leader should.

[Csihar]

They're just trying to distract people from the real story: Trump's illegal and immoral collusion with Russia!

Impeach Trump.

[Swish]

Imagine what America and Russia could achieve together as pals...

[Rader]

They're just trying to distract people from the real story: Trump's illegal and immoral collusion with Russia!

Impeach Trump.

As soon as we chimpeach Obuttmonkey for its illegal and immoral collusion with Iran ISIS and Cuba.

[JurisDictum]

Imagine what America and Russia could achieve together as pals...

We tried that. What we achieved was the Oligarchy, Putin, and the War on Terror.

In many ways it was better under the cold war.

Except now socialism is no longer able to be as effectively repressed. It's going to be amazing to see a whole no voter block that never had to hide under their desks at school during nuclear drills.

[Patriam1066]

As soon as we chimpeach Obuttmonkey for its illegal and immoral collusion with Iran ISIS and Cuba.

Y'all have to get over Iran. Let my people fight the Saudis and pakis idiot you have nothing to fear and if we win the planet loses 300 million parasites and might gain a new Sassanian empire

Thanks and God bless!

[AzzarTheGod]

Y'all have to get over Iran. Let my people fight the Saudis and pakis idiot you have nothing to fear and if we win the planet loses 300 million parasites and might gain a new Sassanian empire

Thanks and God bless!

luv me some iranian pharmaceuticals. shame they have to smuggle them to the balkans due to whatever embargos or domestic laws prevent iran from distributing directly to the west. seems to be a lack of vendoring from eastern countries to the west in general. turkish pharmaceuticals rarely make out west either.

cringing hard at preppers and other folks buying their meds from India.. thats like 3rd world versus 1st world in Iran.

[Rader]

Y'all have to get over Iran. Let my people fight the Saudis and pakis idiot you have nothing to fear and if we win the planet loses 300 million parasites and might gain a new Sassanian empire

Thanks and God bless!

The issue isn't Iran versus Saudi Arabia or Pakistan, it is Iran getting a billion dollars to wage war against the West just so that idiot Obama could establish some kind of legacy as a total retard.

[Patriam1066]

Wage war against the west? With what, camels and jets used by Tom cruise in top gun? People in Iran die because they can't get medical treatment (radioactive isotopes for cancer banned under sanctions) and all they do is strengthen the smuggling branch of the revolutionary guards

Obama did many stupid things but the Iran deal wasn't one of them. Iran has zero desire to fight the west idiot Persians think of themselves as white. We love the west and hate our neighbors

[AzzarTheGod]

i need an education on globalism

what is stopping eastern countries from selling goods wholesale to American marketplaces? whats the physical force or law stopping them from doing this?

In America we have NAFTA (which is the force that regulates Mexico) What is the European/American version preventing Iran etc from reaching the western marketplace wholesale? help wake me so I can include it in my future talking points with other pals.

[AzzarTheGod]

one of you better cough up the info sometime sooner than later or ill spam the question like a cool and normal person

*slips on 1970's brass knuckles and menaces forum*

[Swish]

Oil aside, what does Iran really export that the West legally wants?

[AzzarTheGod]

Oil aside, what does Iran really export that the West legally wants?

Outside of commodities?

Carpets, tapestry, textile art, jewelry, beauty products (beauty products gaining some interest in niche markets from Persian immigrants to USA. They have a lot of luxurious looking women promoting things Iran, even plastic surgeons. Iran is supposed to have some of the best nosejob experts. Some of the best doctors in Beverly Hills are Iranian.

Carpets & tapestry are obvious.

Caviar is a big one.

As of 2013, the World Bank classified Iran as an “upper middle-income” country.

This oil war shit is played out. Really a shame about that Revolution I dont know what purpose that really served or why it was necessary but its really cucked the country.

About 65% of the population is under 35 years old

And they are just going to sit back and get cucked?

[NachtMystium]

Azzar, you idiot, the answer is NO BORDERS, NO HUMANS ARE ILLEGAL!

[Pokesan]

Oil aside, what does Iran really export that the West legally wants?

we keep them around as a boogeyman. we'd have conquered them decades ago if we actually wanted to.

[JurisDictum]

i need an education on globalism

what is stopping eastern countries from selling goods wholesale to American marketplaces? whats the physical force or law stopping them from doing this?

In America we have NAFTA (which is the force that regulates Mexico) What is the European/American version preventing Iran etc from reaching the western marketplace wholesale? help wake me so I can include it in my future talking points with other pals.

Well to sell finished products you need to develop industry. Car factories in Mexico didn't just pop up over night -- they worked really hard to make deals and support the auto industry in Mexico. Same with China.

The problem with any country rich with natural resources -- is the "natural resource curse." Big countries like Britain , Germany, US, France and China can control who gets elected in places like like Nigeria for example. However, the leadership of Nigeria has very little incentive to develop their economy. They can just control the natural resources like diamonds, rubber and oil -- and then take a huge chunk of it for "government funding." The big countries give them weapons, legitimacy (who is recognized at the UN is a big deal), military intelligence and training etc. The reason armies of these countries are so usless, is because they are mostly their to repress their own people, not actually defend them from foreign threats.

So this is why it is called neo-colonialism. It's not much different then when an English lord was in charge. It's just now that English lord calls the "democratically elected leader" and makes threats with trade deals, military and political support to get the prices right. Not to mention they are dependent on Businessmen and women from elite countries to show them how to make an industry to compete in the modern global economy. Not everything Ford is doing is bullshit -- some of those guys know things people in Nigera don't (esp with a shit education system they have no incentive to improve). You don't really know how to make cars until you go work at the car industry place for awhile (to put it simply).


Therefore, there are very few factories being built in Nigera -- even though if they was a game of Civilization I'd say they had an extremely good starting spot. Too many other Empires shot far too ahead, and now they can be pushed around an controlled.

[Raavak]

there are very few factories being built in NigeraIts predicted that Africa will be the next place that becomes a hotbed of industry. This is after the China thing matures and wages begin to creep up and corporations look for cheaper labor again.


The possible genetic basis of political belief.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8N3FF_3KvU

[Nibblewitz]

Its predicted that Africa will be the next place that becomes a hotbed of industry. This is after the China thing matures and wages begin to creep up and corporations look for cheaper labor again.


The world bank puts a damper on industry in the third world. Governments receiving loans are forced to privatize their services and export raw materials in order to have a chance of paying just the interest. Unfortunately, we told all of the third world to do this so the value of raw material tanks and they are forever indebted to the west.

[Pokesan]

https://youtu.be/sLByaw6SHRY

[JurisDictum]

Its predicted that Africa will be the next place that becomes a hotbed of industry. This is after the China thing matures and wages begin to creep up and corporations look for cheaper labor again.


The possible genetic basis of political belief.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8N3FF_3KvU

This could be the case without bringing in all the genetic pseudoscience. There is still parts of Eastern Europe, India, the Middle East that are rife to Industrialize however. So Africa may not be next to industrialize. Nevertheless, eventually people will go to Africa for the cheap labor. My guess is countries with almost no natural resources will be the first to develop industry (Arabs probably).

I would want to see more economic reasoning on why Africa is ahead of other countries on different continents. The best reason I can see for the argument is that China is basically better at industrializing countries than the west is -- and will guide Industrialization throughout Africa. China has a lot more soft power in Africa than America for example. British interest is still strong though.

[Patriam1066]

Oil aside, what does Iran really export that the West legally wants?

Pistachios, saffron, heroin, and a strategy for defeating Arabs

[Patriam1066]

we keep them around as a boogeyman. we'd have conquered them decades ago if we actually wanted to.

America will never fight Iran for the same reason Saudi Arabia won't fight us. That would be a tough war

Israel might but if they do I'll revert to Islam and take Jerusalem

[JurisDictum]

Stephen Colbert was a big fan of the Iran Nuclear Deal incidentally:

8875

[AzzarTheGod]

heroin

forgot this one sad but true str8 afghan pure flooding by the metric ton

Iran has asked the US to please stop.

[skarlorn]

Heroin is worse than elf Sim addiction

[AzzarTheGod]

war on drugs would have been much more successful if they had just focused on strictly heroin and opiates. Then the opioid crisis would have never happened.

we went to war with cigarettes successfully within 10-15 years, wheres the war on heroin, legal pills or otherwise? just more proof we didn't really give a fuck and/or special interests winning out.

the war on cocaine and marijuana really sunk the cred of the entire war. yeah you are a bipolar money spending fucktard while on a coke spree, but when you are out of money your health is still fully intact and you can make friends again and your "spirit" is still there within a months time.....heroin/opioids is around 1 full year of downtime and thats IF the person wants to torture themselves by quitting. The reason why Singapore sentences heroin/opioid addicts to 2 years of rehab is an indictment on that fact. lmao @ USA 30 days, 60 days, 90 days.

lots of propaganda. as bad as "LSD will make you hear voices for life after 1 hit"

[JurisDictum]

Heroin is worse than elf Sim addiction

I seriously doubt that.

[chadtwoke]

I seriously doubt that.

lol. you know nothing, jon snow.

[chadtwoke]

nurgas on H have the worst struggle. I"ve been there. Shit is real. Does not even compare to some stupid goblintown emu. Only normies speak like that.

[Pokesan]

America will never fight Iran for the same reason Saudi Arabia won't fight us. That would be a tough war

Israel might but if they do I'll revert to Islam and take Jerusalem

nah. get nukes or get lost. US would rock both without breaking a sweat. no question.

[Jarnauga]

"iran ISIS" ? lul. you have to be really fucking dumb about geopolitics to write something like that.

political mood:

https://i.imgur.com/dbGUFzg.gif

:D

[mickmoranis]

America will never fight Iran for the same reason Saudi Arabia won't fight us. That would be a tough war

Israel might but if they do I'll revert to Islam and take Jerusalem

I prey that during the invasion of NK that this happens, while fighting spreads through Europe via Russia and USA/china have a series of disagreements that pits them against each other.

And the flames of the apocalypse wash over me.

[Swish]

nah. get nukes or get lost. US would rock both without breaking a sweat. no question.

The only winner there is the caretaker of the National debt. How's the US credit rating looking these days?

[AzzarTheGod]

The only winner there is the caretaker of the National debt. How's the US credit rating looking these days?

Idk How them US salaries looking?

#gottem

[Pokesan]

The only winner there is the caretaker of the National debt. How's the US credit rating looking these days?

i'm parsing this as the dumb meme about china owning the us

lolin at u dude most us debt is internal

[Raavak]

My masters econ prof said something along the lines of "federal government debt doesn't matter because the Fed can just adjust inflation accordingly and essentially make it insignificant".

[Patriam1066]

My masters econ prof said something along the lines of "federal government debt doesn't matter because the Fed can just adjust inflation accordingly and essentially make it insignificant".

It's significant because of "too big to fail".

Our politicians can't get tough on banks because they still need them to finance Medicare and social security. Until the current economic model changes, national debt is bad for that reason alone. We should've chopped off heads after 2008

[JurisDictum]

My masters econ prof said something along the lines of "federal government debt doesn't matter because the Fed can just adjust inflation accordingly and essentially make it insignificant".

I see no reason why that wouldn't be the case for the United States. But it only works that way when your currency is the currency in the world that is Too Big to Fail. Everyone needs the US to make good on its payments -- so it always will. It was the same with British sterling once upon a time. But after World War II -- America surpassed the British in banking.

Unless -- China begins to overtake us someday as the primary world power. I kind of doubt people will ever trust Chinese currency though. The government can simply dictate value in a way the liberal market economies cannot. Its a black box for the most part.

[maskedmelonpai]

It's significant because of "too big to fail".

Our politicians can't get tough on banks because they still need them to finance Medicare and social security. Until the current economic model changes, national debt is bad for that reason alone. We should've chopped off heads after 2008




they "too big to exist" tbh. they need be dismembered an pit they parts against theyselfs.