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[ScaringChildren]

https://i.imgur.com/qXZ3NFs.png

[Wonkie]

Those only last if the current president keeps them around. It carries the force of law when it is in effect but its not a law. Often times the first thing the president does is end the executive orders of the previous president.

Executive orders also "....must fit within a certain sphere of power and cannot simply defy Congressional intent." Not to mention the court can overturn them.

that doesn't sound like a meaningful difference, but i do not watch anime.

[JurisDictum]

that doesn't sound like a meaningful difference, but i do not watch anime.

Congress passes Obamacare...

Trump can't make an executive order that repeals Obamacare.

He can make adjustments that don't clearly contradict the intent of Congress with Obamacare (get rid of the individual mandate) -- but he can't just order the law repealed.

[ScaringChildren]

that doesn't sound like a meaningful difference, but i do not watch anime.

You don't want it to be a meaningful difference.

You want it to matter.

Because it gives your life meaning.

[Patriam1066]

*googles executive order*

REALLY HOPE THIS HELPS BUD

Lol’ed

the thunks

[Patriam1066]

that doesn't sound like a meaningful difference, but i do not watch anime.

Then why you keep pushing Code Geass

smh

[Wonkie]

Congress passes Obamacare...

Trump can't make an executive order that repeals Obamacare.

He can make adjustments that don't clearly contradict the intent of Congress with Obamacare (get rid of the individual mandate) -- but he can't just order the law repealed.

we're getting into the weeds here, and i'm not saying executive can straight up repeal laws. the legislative has simply abdicated alot of their power to the other branches, so EO functions identically to law.

*googles war powers*

[Wonkie]

Then why you keep pushing Code Geass

smh

im a recovering anime viewer :o

[ScaringChildren]

*googles war powers*

Hell, Congress would cream in their pants if Trump wanted to start a war.

If war is your concern, then you should worry about everyone. Not just Trump.

[JurisDictum]

Jesus Christ guys...if you can't contradict congress and the fucking order is not even permanent its not the same as law.

Congress can do anything that isn't ruled unconstitutional. It's a slow bureaucratic institution where its much easier to shut down a prospective law than pass one. So once Congress passes or repeals a law -- there is a level of permanency to it.

Congress has exclusive power of the purse and presidents can't simply demand taxpayer money without consent of Congress. The problem with this country is not the president. The problem with this country is the bought out Congress and Courts.

Why is the Congress easy to buy out? Because people are too god damn focused on the president as the guy with all the power and don't even know who their representative is, what they do, and where they get their money from. But people will read a novel worth of information about Russiagate or Whitewater.

[Wonkie]

thank you for the dictionary definition, I'm well aware of it.

[ScaringChildren]

The problem with this country is the bought out Congress and Courts.

Truth.

[Ahldagor]

Yes, congress has been bought and elected judges as well, and a vote won't change that. It's just who's at the trough. Rubio spilled the beans when he said campaign contributions were like an investment which got very little air time since it was in regards to the NRA contributing to his campaign/s.

[ScaringChildren]

Yes, congress has been bought and elected judges as well, and a vote won't change that. It's just who's at the trough. Rubio spilled the beans when he said campaign contributions were like an investment which got very little air time since it was in regards to the NRA contributing to his campaign/s.

Do you think if Planned Parenthood stopped contributing to Democrats that Democrats would stop being pro choice?

[Ahldagor]

The skillful thing that Trump's campaign did was utilizing that knowledge to profess to drain the swamp and install a nationalistic wing into political power, but it's primarily Americans that have bought America; so the cycle just runs another course. What's more capitalistic than having US taxpayers prop up US corporations who don't pay US taxes? It's masterful, respectable, and ethically feckless.

[pickled_heretic]

it's a stupid question but you nerds have actually seen lain right? it's the finest anime

Overrated garbage

[Ahldagor]

Do you think if Planned Parenthood stopped contributing to Democrats that Democrats would stop being pro choice?

No, because Roe v Wade was focused on whether or not privacy was a thing granted to citizens by the constitution and how privacy could be utilised by citizens. That's the real, legal block concerning a total police state in the US, but the GOP harps on abortion because it's easy votes and donations.

[JurisDictum]

Rightwing groups before the solid south went Republican were trying to different methods of getting their candidates elected. Abortion and dog-whistle anti-black politics were the two that worked. They later discovered that anti-drug and pro-gun stuff also went over well.

So as far as actually representing the people goes, those issues are inline with deeply held beliefs of Republican voters.

The economic shit really isn't. Even when it is it's false consciousness..."As a Wallmart worker Republicans benefit me!" (objectively they don't).

[JurisDictum]

Swedish politicians avoid backlash by admitting they got immigration wrong:
(https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/09/the-new-swedish-lesson-populism-can-be-kept-at-bay-by-listening-to-voters/)

A months ago, I thought that it was too late. Now, I’m not so sure. Sweden’s election results were as expected (how often can that be said about European elections nowadays?) with no nasty populist surprise. Listening to the last Swedish leaders debate (which I wrote about yesterday) I was struck by how every single leader wished to say to voters: we hear you. The immigration, and the related crime, has got out of hand. Let us count the ways in which this has gone too far.

The Liberal leader spoke about Islamist free schools. The Conservative leader spoke about immigrant gangland crime and their murders. The Christian Democrat leader spoke about “honour repression” of girls in families. The collective effect, I suspect, was have been to persuade a good many Swedes that they don’t need to vote for Akesson to have their concerns taken seriously. Sweden’s famously narrow “opinion corridor” had widened quite a lot by the end of the campaig

Don't expect the same from our politicans. We don't actually live in a Democracy.

[ScaringChildren]

Swedish politicians avoid backlash by admitting they got immigration wrong:
(https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/09/the-new-swedish-lesson-populism-can-be-kept-at-bay-by-listening-to-voters/)

Don't expect the same from our politicans. We don't actually live in a Democracy.

I'm surprised Swedish politicians did this actually.

They're smarter than the rest. However, they're only delaying the inevitable when they continue to ignore the voters.

I swear, it's like Europe wants a far-right populist movement.

[Ahldagor]

Rightwing groups before the solid south went Republican were trying to different methods of getting their candidates elected. Abortion and dog-whistle anti-black politics were the two that worked. They later discovered that anti-drug and pro-gun stuff also went over well.

So as far as actually representing the people goes, those issues are inline with deeply held beliefs of Republican voters.

The economic shit really isn't. Even when it is it's false consciousness..."As a Wallmart worker Republicans benefit me!" (objectively they don't).

Nixon was a fascist asshole, but he knew what he was doing with his Southern Strategy.

[AzzarTheGod]

Swedish politicians avoid backlash by admitting they got immigration wrong:
(https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/09/the-new-swedish-lesson-populism-can-be-kept-at-bay-by-listening-to-voters/)



Don't expect the same from our politicans. We don't actually live in a Democracy.

JD spittin real shit

[Schaduwridder]

Lets talk wargames, lets talk important stuff not the garbage on this page

Military might of Russia backed with endless china troops = we fukd

[Wonkie]

Lets talk wargames, lets talk important stuff not the garbage on this page

Military might of Russia backed with endless china troops = we fukd

Russia's military is laughable compared to the US. Anything short of a nuclear exchange we roll them easy. Google force projection dum gnome.

Nukes = no invadies tho

[ScaringChildren]

Lets talk wargames, lets talk important stuff not the garbage on this page

Military might of Russia backed with endless china troops = we fukd

Nope.

The only chance Russia would have is if the US invaded via the European Steppes or a nuclear exchange.

There's no guarantee China would join them either.

Even so, the US has plenty of allies as well. We're getting warmer with India every day and they're rivals of China.

Russia talks a big game and their country is massive, but they wouldn't stand a chance. Especially since the US has major bases in nearby Europe.

[Patriam1066]

The Japanese hate the Chinese as much as I do and quietly have a decent military

[Patriam1066]

Hope the preceding post helps

my good chum

[Swish2]

Nope.

The only chance Russia would have is if the US invaded via the European Steppes or a nuclear exchange.

There's no guarantee China would join them either.

Even so, the US has plenty of allies as well. We're getting warmer with India every day and they're rivals of China.

Russia talks a big game and their country is massive, but they wouldn't stand a chance. Especially since the US has major bases in nearby Europe.

Indeed... https://i.imgur.com/PgS975B.jpg

[Patriam1066]

Indeed... https://i.imgur.com/PgS975B.jpg

Yes. We’re Rome. We took over after Neville chamberlain and a bunch of other stupid British Ass holes with silly names like Benedict cumberbatch got annihilated by men with cool names like Rommel and Heydrich

Sorry you lost. We’ll keep English alive and the pound sterling viable in honor of Washington and Hamilton. It’s what they would’ve wanted

NEXT

[Ahldagor]

Russia has no military option concerning combat with the US. Oceans make great defenses as the Japanese found out when they tried to invade Alaska. What we're not showing is our playable hand while we're selling what is of no consequence. Why don't more of you play poker?

Russia's primary option is to sew internal discord which they've gotten good at by catching up to the US through the internet. US has international sanctions to work with which disrupt economic activity, so pick your poison, I guess.

[Wonkie]

What we're not showing is our playable hand


why not done? NEED SEE NEW EXPLODIES

[Patriam1066]

Why didn’t the oceans save the Japanese? It wasn’t our geography that made us. It’s our superiority

Hope this helps. Build the wall and preserve the greatest nation in human history. Never forget

[Wonkie]

Why didn’t the oceans save the Japanese? It wasn’t our geography that made us. It’s our superiority

Hope this helps. Build the wall and preserve the greatest nation in human history. Never forget

we nuked them because an invasion would be too costly. because of the sea.

thanks alot for the really dumb post my good Texas hillbilly chum

[Swish2]

Yes. We’re Rome. We took over after Neville chamberlain and a bunch of other stupid British Ass holes with silly names like Benedict cumberbatch got annihilated by men with cool names like Rommel and Heydrich

Sorry you lost. We’ll keep English alive and the pound sterling viable in honor of Washington and Hamilton. It’s what they would’ve wanted

NEXT

"we" - said the Iranian American.

Sorry your country died in 1979. Can't blame a lot of Iranians for leaving honestly.

Before:- https://i.imgur.com/HG2kcJN.jpg




After:- https://i.imgur.com/OAynXd6.jpg

[Patriam1066]

Why didn’t they have nukes? Inferiority

Hope this helps!

Oh and that was their mountains. Still has nothing to do with our imperium. From Elon Musk to Jonas Salk, all visionaries come to the city upon the hill. May our light continue to illuminate the human race for centuries to come. God bless America. Counter terrorists win

[Patriam1066]

"we" - said the Iranian American.

Sorry your country died in 1979. Can't blame a lot of Iranians for leaving honestly.

Before:- https://i.imgur.com/HG2kcJN.jpg




After:- https://i.imgur.com/OAynXd6.jpg

London has more hijabis than Tehran

Sorry your mayor is a Muslim. You lost twice!

haha!

[Wonkie]

you make a good point there, if they have sea borders they really ought to have invented nuclear weapons a lot earlier

[Patriam1066]

you make a good point there, if they have sea borders they really ought to have invented nuclear weapons a lot earlier

Japan wouldn’t have defeated us regardless of the pacific

The Japanese couldn’t take Utah bud. The Mormons would’ve stopped the advance in the name of Christ while your Irish forebears submitted outside Seattle

[Swish2]

London has more hijabis than Tehran

Sorry your mayor is a Muslim. You lost twice!

haha!

That's not true, but even then at least women are allowed to speak (for now).

One of the saddest sights is watching people defend the backward steps the mayor has been taking as violent crime soars, "praise Allah" ads are allowed on buses but bikini ads are banned...etc.

If this is a taste of Muslim leadership in the West, that's the fire well and truly lit under right wing political groups. Coupled with "asian gangs" grooming kids of course.

We'll sort ourselves out eventually, either the country dies quietly or some big event even the BBC can't not report on is going to happen.

[Wonkie]

Japan wouldn’t have defeated us regardless of the pacific

The Japanese couldn’t take Utah bud. The Mormons would’ve stopped the advance in the name of Christ while your Irish forebears submitted outside Seattle

granpappy fought the krauts and lived in rhode island. he spawned like 9 children. never question my heritage again.

i'm the only male heir. lotta fuckin to do

[clevergirl]

Japan wouldn’t have defeated us regardless of the pacific

The Japanese couldn’t take Utah bud. The Mormons would’ve stopped the advance in the name of Christ while your Irish forebears submitted outside Seattle

Harsh but probably true.

[clevergirl]

granpappy fought the krauts and lived in rhode island. he spawned like 9 children. never question my heritage again.

i'm the only male heir. lotta fuckin to do

The hypothetical world were the US mainland is invaded though.

[Wonkie]

The hypothetical world were the US mainland is invaded though.

OK but hypothetically i can fly and stuff

[clevergirl]

1st biographical confirmation?

*zooms in big binoculars that give her googly eyes from your pov*

:eek: (cumshot face)

[Patriam1066]

granpappy fought the krauts and lived in rhode island. he spawned like 9 children. never question my heritage again.

i'm the only male heir. lotta fuckin to do

Yeah until you marry and have a son I’m gonna rag on you bud. Last male heir and you’re smoking cigsrettes

SAD!

[clevergirl]

OK but hypothetically i can fly and stuff

I've flown. I get airsick though. :cool:

I do love sushi. Born in the west. So I'd probably have wound up a Japanese Mormon samurai anime futa hybrid.

[clevergirl]

Yeah until you marry and have a son I’m gonna rag on you bud. Last male heir and you’re smoking cigsrettes

SAD!

Agreeing again with the fascist sandwich noggin.

(maybe don't have kids though)

Damnit. Now I want wonkie to have children :(

(sorry I don't have a womb)

Wonkies children should rule the universe.

(this explains my fetish with cloning biosynthetic organisms)

[Wonkie]

Yeah until you marry and have a son I’m gonna rag on you bud. Last male heir and you’re smoking cigsrettes

SAD!

wild oats imo

[clevergirl]

wild oats imo

My sexuality is highly fibrous.

[Wonkie]

maerilith is trying to get me :(

[Patriam1066]

I like sushi and sashimi as well. I’d love to visit japan if there were no Japanese there

Sad!

[clevergirl]

maerilith is trying to get me :(

Mmm hhhhmmm. ;)

[ScaringChildren]

Why didn’t the oceans save the Japanese?

Because of the many islands that surround Japan in the Pacific.

The SeaBees are legendary and built up launch points which allowed the US to play hopscotch with the islands and eventually take Okinawa.

The US doesn't really have nearby islands like that, aside from maybe Bermuda (which the British used to resupply and attack us from during the Revolutionary War and 1812).

Cuba is another one, which is probably a big reason why the government got antsy about them cozying up to the Soviets.

If you're going to invade a far away land, you'll need a nearby base/network for resupply.

Logistics is the key to warfare and the US has really honed that part over the years. That's the real strength of a military.

China's military may be huge but they have a very weak and disjointed CENTCOM, for example.

[ScaringChildren]

The EU just passed Article 13.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/12/eu-lawmakers-pass-controversial-digital-copyright-law.html

The Brexiteers were right.

Time for a revolution.

They may take your lives...but they'll never take your memes

[clevergirl]

Sounds like a fine piece of right wing legislation from the likes of Ajit Pai. And before you "but, Obama" Ajit Pai is all in w/ the GoP.

You probably wouldn't notice the internet changes after this. In America we have:

fair use
noun
noun: fair use; plural noun: fair uses
(in US copyright law) the doctrine that brief excerpts of copyright material may, under certain circumstances, be quoted verbatim for purposes such as criticism, news reporting, teaching, and research, without the need for permission from or payment to the copyright holder.

Now should a monotized publication have the freedom to make money off of a screenshot from someone else's work?

If you're running a click bait site that produces very little of its own content, like, imgur. Or Twitter. Or Tumblr.

You're a part of the problem.

[clevergirl]

smoker:o

I know. In his case I'll let him blow smoke in my face. :o

[ScaringChildren]

Sounds like a fine piece of right wing legislation from the likes of Ajit Pai. And before you "but, Obama" Ajit Pai is all in w/ the GoP.

You probably wouldn't notice the internet changes after this. In America we have:

fair use
noun
noun: fair use; plural noun: fair uses
(in US copyright law) the doctrine that brief excerpts of copyright material may, under certain circumstances, be quoted verbatim for purposes such as criticism, news reporting, teaching, and research, without the need for permission from or payment to the copyright holder.

Now should a monotized publication have the freedom to make money off of a screenshot from someone else's work?

If you're running a click bait site that produces very little of its own content, like, imgur. Or Twitter. Or Tumblr.

You're a part of the problem.

Oh I know, I'm not denying that the right-wing politicians in America would support Article 13.

But so would Neo-Liberals. Hence the EU.

Just another reason why the EU is shit and the UK made the right decision to brexit.

[ScaringChildren]

https://i.imgur.com/hLiChhW.jpg

[Schaduwridder]

the thing that pissed me off about jihadi john is when everyone found out who his mom was someone should have immediately murdered her but no one did

world is full of pussies

[JurisDictum]

An article from the "left-leaning"* think tank Manhattan Institute: Time for Colleges to Get Some Skin in the Game (https://www.city-journal.org/student-loans-16167.html)

DeVos is on the right track. It’s time to stop using taxpayer-backed student loans to pick favorites in higher education. Let the market do that. After ditching the gainful-employment rule, the Trump administration should next move to eliminate the income-based repayment and loan-forgiveness plans that the federal government offers graduates going into public service. According to a 2017 Congressional Budget Office report, the Public Service Loan Forgiveness program will cost $24 billion over ten years, an amount likely to increase, since almost a quarter of the workforce could be deemed eligible.

Yea that's right. Not only is Mis Born-rich private school shill letting scam private colleges off the hook -- they are now lobbying to get rid of the one method many (including myself) college grads with shit employment have of paying our loans back. "It will cost money"...

What a fucking joke. It literally costs less than 1/4 of the new military spending the Congress just gave trump.....over multiple years. How would this fucking help anything?

I watched Chris Hedge's best speech (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oef3wLs3HI) this year last night. This a lot of what he is talking about. The elites bled the working class so much that they are now going for school money and monetizing prison labor etc...essentially cannibalizing the state. This is a phase that all late empires have gone through.

The college student-loan bubble is going to pop...and there is no way we are electing a president "hard on student-loans"...this and other problems could very well create a crisis of debt and cause the world to detach the dollar as their primary reserve currency.

Once the dollar is no longer king...the empire is over. We are not going to be voting in military adventurism (another sign of late empire) and it will cause us to retract. Any credibility the elites have (very little), will disappear.

Trump will go down in History as a sign of all kinds of problems....but we will mostly focus on what the corporate elites were doing during the Trump era.

* It appears that they no longer purport to be centrist or left-leaning.

[Schaduwridder]

your posts are always too long and fucking stupid

I think you are the first person im going to ignore on this forum.

[Phenyo]

memes banned in europe

hehe

[Schaduwridder]

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[Patriam1066]

An article from the "left-leaning"* think tank Manhattan Institute: Time for Colleges to Get Some Skin in the Game (https://www.city-journal.org/student-loans-16167.html)



Yea that's right. Not only is Mis Born-rich private school shill letting scam private colleges off the hook -- they are now lobbying to get rid of the one method many (including myself) college grads with shit employment have of paying our loans back. "It will cost money"...

What a fucking joke. It literally costs less than 1/4 of the new military spending the Congress just gave trump.....over multiple years. How would this fucking help anything?

I watched Chris Hedge's best speech (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oef3wLs3HI) this year last night. This a lot of what he is talking about. The elites bled the working class so much that they are now going for school money and monetizing prison labor etc...essentially cannibalizing the state. This is a phase that all late empires have gone through.

The college student-loan bubble is going to pop...and there is no way we are electing a president "hard on student-loans"...this and other problems could very well create a crisis of debt and cause the world to detach the dollar as their primary reserve currency.

Once the dollar is no longer king...the empire is over. We are not going to be voting in military adventurism (another sign of late empire) and it will cause us to retract. Any credibility the elites have (very little), will disappear.

Trump will go down in History as a sign of all kinds of problems....but we will mostly focus on what the corporate elites were doing during the Trump era.

* It appears that they no longer purport to be centrist or left-leaning.

If it makes you feel any better, you’re right about many of these points. The good thing about “late empire” is the facade of republic will fade and you won’t have to worry about these decisions. The Elect will be making your decisions for you because you couldn’t make he correct ones yourself. Claudius II saved Rome from a decline much more inevitable than the one you predict now. A hero will rise, and he will silence the whiners and crybabies and welfare recipients

As an aside, would you admit that people who worked their way through college and got valuable degrees instead of pursuing law to rob people using state power were actual smarter than you and had a more ethical lifestyle as it pertains to civics? Just curious what responsibility you bear for completely predictable mistakes that you made

[JurisDictum]

As an aside, would you admit that people who worked their way through college and got valuable degrees instead of pursuing law to rob people using state power were actual smarter than you and had a more ethical lifestyle as it pertains to civics? Just curious what responsibility you bear for completely predictable mistakes that you made

Not going to lawschool right out of college, from a personal interest standpoint, was my mistake. Not going in the first place. Lawyers are not always evil. The main reason people have this perception is corporate law...and some rubes fall for the idea that trail lawyers are extremely bad people (corporate propaganda). Even if we turned into a utopian society, we would need a few lawyers. I honestly think I'm the type that like law enough to do it even if it wasn't well-paid. A lot of people can't say that.

Look, everyone is accountable all day long for the decision they make. This idea that unless they get fucked on loans they aren't going to be accountable is really, really, stupid. Their already fucked because they have low paid jobs and bad income to debt ratio.

You can always make that dumbass argument. "Well if prisoners don't have to work for 22 cents an hour, how are they going to be punished?" How about because their in prison? The kids that are debt free, are debt fucking free. They don't need to see those in debt punished to be proud the decision their parents basically made for them.

This is the same argument for low capital gains tax. "How are we going to reward investment unless we give it preferential tax treatment?" How about all the fucking returns on their investment? Isn't that a reward?

The idea that people will stop investing because of the tax rate is retarded. Just like the idea that people are going to go into debt because they can get a plan to remain solvent when they have other options. These things are their own reward. They don't need to be further incentivized to occur.

[Patriam1066]

I’m cool with you serving in the military for 8 years for loan forgiveness. The bottom line is student loan debt, obesity, diabetes, etc, all of these are individual mistakes that get portrayed as a collective problem. Mormons Persians jews ans Hindus don’t have these problems. It’s your culture bud. Go to church and ask God to make you believe in chauvinism and success as your ancestors once did. That’s how dad did it. That’s how America does it

[JurisDictum]

I just want to point out. A lot of you guys get your idea of the modern college campus from media videos of student in one of the top 20 US colleges. In this privilege epicenters -- safe zones and banning offensive speech is the norm.

Because these kids are overwhelming rich and have no other problems. This is the time in their life where they delve deep into identity issues and intersectionality and talk about how the Rich LGBT students are short changed compared to the rich white cis-generded students...

This is very far removed from a person going to University of (insert state). These campuses...there not any god damn different then when you went there. Just go down to your local state college in sit in a few classrooms...

None of this crap you saw on infowars videos is occurring there. It's just people doing course material..much of which hasn't changed much! It's literally the same damn course as 20 years ago in political theory....in yet were supposed to believe "we aren't learning what we used to."

Wrong. There is no difference. This is just big finance and corporate America's chance to:

1) blame student majors for shit opportunity

2) get rid of pesky humanities majors that teach people how to think, question and argue.

3) get more math and science majors that know just enough to run the current system but not enough to question it.

What % of college student major in identity-politics oriented subjects? I'm guessing its low and doesn't begin to explain the problem. And despite popular belief...20-somethings are bit too old to be brainwashed by a few years of college classes about race and gender...they believed that shit going in.

[JurisDictum]

He's right you can get your loans forgiven in the military. You haven't smoked marijuana more than once in your life, right?

I did consider the military...and this why I stopped considering it.

It's not a problem for me to just stop smoking pot. But I can't undo my conviction at 24 for growing it. As far as their concerned, you could never be trusted to be in the military having pot-related crimes.

It's also still highly taboo to be anything but 100% straight in the military.

[Patriam1066]

JD I wish I could’ve been your father. You would’ve had college paid for and I would’ve murdered you before I let you become a parasite like a lawyer. You would’ve been a trauma surgeon. Alas, it can never be. But Jesus is your father. You need only submit and serve

[Patriam1066]

The military thing was a joke dude you couldn’t do physical labor, that’s obvious. You’d cry the first time you broke a toenail

[JurisDictum]

The military has a lot of problems with getting qualified people...a lot of it is because of physical problems (fatass weaklings) and pot...

Just start testing the ex-potheads that sign up and let the ones that can stay clean stay.

And maybe a longer term program of exercise and diet for the fatasses that turn up?

This shit could be fixed.

But the military is always the slowest to adapt to changing social norms.

[clevergirl]

Oh I know, I'm not denying that the right-wing politicians in America would support Article 13.

But so would Neo-Liberals. Hence the EU.

Just another reason why the EU is shit and the UK made the right decision to brexit.
Thanks! That's big of you. I'm leaning more center today myself.

[JurisDictum]

The military thing was a joke dude you couldn’t do physical labor, that’s obvious. You’d cry the first time you broke a toenail

I was going to try to be a military intelligence officer. The military is nice because everyone is treated like a piece of shit from the drill sergeants etc...so you don't get all triggered when some guy gets in your face and tells you you're worthless.

Meanwhile in civilian life, someone is curt with you and you feel like killing them.

[JurisDictum]

‘Tonight Show’ cancels Norm Macdonald after MeToo comments (https://apnews.com/b5942a2dbd4441938761579c1001dc19)

The former “Saturday Night Live” cast member told The Hollywood Reporter he was “happy the # MeToo movement had slowed down a little bit.” Macdonald said people used to receive a second chance, but now “there is no forgiveness.”

Macdonald mentioned Louis C.K, who was accused of sexual misconduct, and Barr, who was fired from her show in May.

“There are very few people that have gone through what they have, losing everything in a day. Of course, people will go, “What about the victims?” But you know what? The victims didn’t have to go through that,” Macdonald said.

Macdonald later tweeted an apology and said he would never “defend their actions."

Maybe we just stop watching these stupid evening shows. I don't -- but other people should probably just unplug from the NY polite society nightly.

[skarlorn]

If it makes you feel any better, you’re right about many of these points. The good thing about “late empire” is the facade of republic will fade and you won’t have to worry about these decisions. The Elect will be making your decisions for you because you couldn’t make he correct ones yourself. Claudius II saved Rome from a decline much more inevitable than the one you predict now. A hero will rise, and he will silence the whiners and crybabies and welfare recipients

As an aside, would you admit that people who worked their way through college and got valuable degrees instead of pursuing law to rob people using state power were actual smarter than you and had a more ethical lifestyle as it pertains to civics? Just curious what responsibility you bear for completely predictable mistakes that you made

really really good. I feel this post on many levels. We can only pray that the facade of the republic is removed and the first Emperor is a Golden one like Aurelius who sets forth the model for a few hundred years of successors.

JD I wish I could’ve been your father. You would’ve had college paid for and I would’ve murdered you before I let you become a parasite like a lawyer. You would’ve been a trauma surgeon. Alas, it can never be. But Jesus is your father. You need only submit and serve
lol. God bless this post. My generation struggles deeply with the spiritual truth that is self-sacrifice to serve the Will of the Lord (and also the women who are objectively better people than you)

submit and serve saved my life.

[clevergirl]

Militarily speaking "intelligence" attracts tons of spergheads like Chelsea.

So fucking glad I went signal core.

Fuck y'alls.

[JurisDictum]

I honestly just wanted to get into the CIA and know what was really go on. Perhaps one day gathering enough power to be a bureaucratic player. Unless you are graduated with honors Ivy-League...your best bet is military background.

[AzzarTheGod]

I honestly just wanted to get into the CIA and know what was really go on. Perhaps one day gathering enough power to be a bureaucratic player. Unless you are graduated with honors Ivy-League...your best bet is military background.

analysts know even less than the operators. u'd just be a cog in a wheel another know-nothing doing dead end work.

the knowers are the elites of which you said yourself you are not. even with a military background you would never rise above your station at the CIA to where you'd be privy to anything.

[AzzarTheGod]

Militarily speaking "intelligence" attracts tons of spergheads like Chelsea.

So fucking glad I went signal core.

Fuck y'alls.

chelsea is a nothing. hes nothing to me. his access was plebeian

[ScaringChildren]

I honestly just wanted to get into the CIA and know what was really go on. Perhaps one day gathering enough power to be a bureaucratic player. Unless you are graduated with honors Ivy-League...your best bet is military background.

JD in the military:

https://i.imgur.com/ugwTM3h_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[AzzarTheGod]

app denied. cant pass a security clearance

[AzzarTheGod]

Honeytrap is best route to access from pleb birth if you have the goods

*reaches down whales pants* agree im out here moving up the ranks

[ScaringChildren]

cool and normal political climate (https://youtu.be/a24inPBEZ8A)

[JurisDictum]

cool and normal political climate (https://youtu.be/a24inPBEZ8A)

I don't know how you can listen to more than a minute of that.

"I'm a rightwing guy asserting the left is violent based on rightwing newspapers!"

Who cares.

And no, rightwing violence is not overblown. I never hear about that shit. I'm constantly hearing about how we need to be scared of skinny dipshits from Berkeley though. Those groups were probably started by a spy agency anyway.

[JurisDictum]

Trailblazing female who became infantry Marine is getting kicked out for fraternization (https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2018/09/12/trailblazing-female-who-became-infantry-marine-is-getting-kicked-out-for-fraternization/)



Remedios Cruz joined the Marine Corps in 2013 as a supply clerk. One year later, she completed infantry training, and in 2017, made history when she became one of three females to join 1st Battalion, 8th Marines at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina.

Now, Cruz is awaiting separation from the Marine Corps after pleading guilty to maintaining a romantic relationship with a subordinate.

Cruz, 26, eventually married the person, who was a lower-ranking Marine in her unit, according The New York Times.


High T females...

[ScaringChildren]

I don't know how you can listen to more than a minute of that.

"I'm a rightwing guy asserting the left is violent based on rightwing newspapers!"

Who cares.

And no, rightwing violence is not overblown. I never hear about that shit. I'm constantly hearing about how we need to be scared of skinny dipshits from Berkeley though. Those groups were probably started by a spy agency anyway.

Tim Pool is a leftist Social Democrat.

Far from a right winger.

[JurisDictum]

Tim Pool is a leftist Social Democrat.

Far from a right winger.

He's pretty scatter brained.

[ScaringChildren]

He's pretty scatter brained.

Well yeah, he talks about it a lot.

He has no idea what the Left has turned into. He talks about the split all the time. There are a ton of people in the same sphere who are in the same exact boat.

Hell, there's even an ex-TYT anchor.

People constantly call him a conservative but he has videos in support of Bernie Sanders.

If you're an individualist leftist or you don't adhere 100% to the dogma, you're labeled a right winger.

[Wonkie]

tim pool is a liar tho dont know if hes right wing

[ScaringChildren]

tim pool is a liar tho dont know if hes right wing

Where did he lie?

[Wonkie]

Where did he lie?

he's a thief too. a liar and a thief.

[JurisDictum]

All of his fans are rightwing...just check the comments. He seems to focus on leftwing violence....this guy is a socialist like S.E. Cupp is an Atheist.

Never one pep on possible socialist censorship I might add. His newest video is over 13 minutes long, and he only focuses on how conservatives will be censored.

[ScaringChildren]

All of his fans are rightwing...just check the comments. He seems to focus on leftwing violence....this guy is a socialist like S.E. Cupp is an Atheist.

Never one pep on possible socialist censorship I might add. His newest video is over 13 minutes long, and he only focuses on how conservatives will be censored.

A Social Democrat is not a Socialist. I'd figure you of all people would know that.

Also he focuses more on cultural issues. He's a individualist Leftist who doesn't approve of collective authoritarians, which is where he finds common ground with his conservative fans.

[Wonkie]

individualism isn't leftist hth

[ScaringChildren]

individualism isn't leftist hth

Lol yes it can be

[Wonkie]

Lol yes it can be

???

[ScaringChildren]

???

You really are retarded, dude.

[skarlorn]

the day you stop trying to actually have a conversation with wonkie is a day of freedom

[ScaringChildren]

the day you stop trying to actually have a conversation with wonkie is a day of freedom

I'm slowly learning that.

[Wonkie]

You really are retarded, dude.

horny for this explanation dont make me wait

[Wonkie]

DAE capitalism is a friendly dog? 🐕

[JurisDictum]

individualism isn't leftist hth

Pretty much accurate.

Explain to me what part of his ideas are leftwing.

[ScaringChildren]

horny for this explanation dont make me wait

You want me to explain why you're retarded?

Is there a character limit on here?

[JurisDictum]

You want me to explain why you're retarded?

Is there a character limit on here?

go for it. Why is Tim Pool a leftest. What Leftwing about him.

[ScaringChildren]

Pretty much accurate.

Explain to me what part of his ideas are leftwing.

Oh god, you're retarded too.

Example of leftwing individualism: Anarchism

[JurisDictum]

Oh god, you're retarded too.

Example of leftwing individualism: Anarchism

Not leftism inherently.

See: max steiner.

Chomsky is. But its not just because he calls himself an anarchist.

[Wonkie]

ancap

[ScaringChildren]

Not leftism inherently.

See: max steiner.

Chomsky is. But its not just because he calls himself an anarchist.

Of course there's right wing anarchism, but it exists on the leftwing.

Individualism and Collectivism can both be Left and Rightwing.

[Wonkie]

words have zero meaning and it owns

*smiles at Dino and gesticulates wildly at my genitals*

[ScaringChildren]

The hilarious thing about this is that you're both individualist leftists.

[JurisDictum]

Of course there's right wing anarchism, but it exists on the leftwing.

Individualism and Collectivism can both be Left and Rightwing.

How is any of what Tim Pool says leftest?

[ScaringChildren]

How is any of what Tim Pool says leftest?

I wasn't answering you.

This is all about Wonkie.

[Wonkie]

*grunts, belches, helicopters*

[ScaringChildren]

How is any of what Tim Pool says leftest?

This is a video he uploaded today. (https://youtu.be/tsU5PbFYsp4)

At 10:35 mark, "there's no way in hell I would vote for a Republican"...

[JurisDictum]

This is a video he uploaded today. (https://youtu.be/tsU5PbFYsp4)

At 10:35 mark, "there's no way in hell I would vote for a Republican"...

Because their too authoritarian and not Libertarian enough..

[ScaringChildren]

Because their too authoritarian and not Libertarian enough..

Did you even watch the clip?

[Wonkie]

I wasn't answering you.

This is all about Wonkie.

anyway it's pretty normal for you to be loud and hilariously uneducated. by God, it's your right as an American.

[ScaringChildren]

anyway it's pretty normal for you to be loud and hilariously uneducated. by God, it's your right as an American.

You don't even know what 'Individualism' is.

Please don't act like you're educated ever again.

[Wonkie]

You don't even know what 'Individualism' is.

Please don't act like you're educated ever again.

ok multiple choice: which answer best describes Marxism?

a. individualism
b. collectivism
c. mountain dew baja blast

[misterbonkers]

ok multiple choice: which answer best describes Marxism?

a. individualism
b. collectivism
c. mountain dew baja blast

c

[ScaringChildren]

ok multiple choice: which answer best describes Marxism?

a. individualism
b. collectivism
c. mountain dew baja blast

So all Leftists are Marxists?

Is this really your argument? lol

So you think all Leftists are Collectivists.

Guess what Nazism is? Right wing collectivism.

So by your logic, all Leftists are Nazis.

[JurisDictum]

Did you even watch the clip?

Yes. He said he doesn't agree with Republican positions. And doesn't want corporations to regulate speech (A Democratic and Republican position).

I think -- using my familiarity with politics and the limited exposure I've had with the guy -- that he is a libertarian. He is only left in the sense that he's not authoritarian -- but that is a common rightwing position: Rand Paul, Alex Jones etc.

Pretty sure he believes in private property, individual "economic freedom", shit like that.

[ScaringChildren]

Yes. He said he doesn't agree with Republican positions. And doesn't want corporations to regulate speech (A Democratic and Republican position).

I think -- using my familiarity with politics and the limited exposure I've had with the guy -- that he is a libertarian. He is only left in the sense that he's not authoritarian -- but that is a common rightwing position: Rand Paul, Alex Jones etc.

Pretty sure he believes in private property, individual "economic freedom", shit like that.

Leftists believe in private property and economic freedom.

Not all Leftists are Socialists or Communists.

[Wonkie]

So all Leftists are Marxists?

Is this really your argument? lol

So you think all Leftists are Collectivists.

Guess what Nazism is? Right wing collectivism.

So by your logic, all Leftists are Nazis.

big, if true

[Wonkie]

Leftists believe in private property and economic freedom.

Not all Leftists are Socialists or Communists.

hippity hoppity
abolish private property

[JurisDictum]

Leftists believe in private property and economic freedom.

Not all Leftists are Socialists or Communists.

Economic Freedom is a rightwing idea:

economic freedom

The freedom to prosper within a country without intervention from a government or economic authority. Individuals are free to secure and protect his/her human resources, labor and private property. Economic freedom is common in capitalist economies and must incorporate other civil liberties to be deemed as truly free.

Read more: http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/economic-freedom.html

You don't have to want to abolish private property to be a leftest...but I would say its pretty obvious that the left curves the power of private ownership of "property" where as the right is more likely to defend it.

[ScaringChildren]

You're both individualist, liberal, leftists who support a capitalist system.

Sorry, guys. But you really shouldn't hate yourselves.

[ScaringChildren]

Nice quote, you expect me to believe leftists want the government to stomp on people for trying to open a business or buy land?

Maybe in San Francisco, but the majority of the Left aren't completely insane.

[Wonkie]

Nice quote, you expect me to believe leftists want the government to stomp on people for trying to open a business or buy land?

Maybe in San Francisco, but the majority of the Left aren't completely insane.

ya private ownership isn't a leftwing economic idea. you're describing market liberalism and shrieking about Commies. its both confusing and arousing

[JurisDictum]

Nice quote, you expect me to believe leftists want the government to stomp on people for trying to open a business or buy land?

Maybe in San Francisco, but the majority of the Left aren't completely insane.

Well on the business I have no problems with that...but buying shitloads of land and then charging people "rent" maybe should be looked at. At least, maybe in the misty future. You don't get to build human civilization from the ground up, you have to work with what we got. So eliminating land barons is probably not in the cards any time soon.

[ScaringChildren]

Well on the business I have no problems with that...but buying shitloads of land and then charging people "rent" maybe should be looked at. At least, maybe in the misty future. You don't get to build human civilization from the ground up, you have to work with what we got. So eliminating land barons is probably not in the cards any time soon.

Hey, look at that! You believe in economic freedoms!

Are you SURE you're a Leftist?

[ScaringChildren]

ya private ownership isn't a leftwing economic idea. you're describing market liberalism and shrieking about Commies. its both confusing and arousing

It's quite simple.

Do you believe people can start a business and buy land?

If you're fine with people doing that and don't want the government to point guns at them, then congratulations, you support economic freedoms.

It doesn't make you a right winger.

Literally millions of leftists all over the world believe in economic freedom.

[Wonkie]

It's quite simple.

Do you believe people can start a business and buy land?

If you're fine with people doing that and don't want the government to point guns at them, then congratulations, you support economic freedoms.

It doesn't make you a right winger.

Literally millions of leftists all over the world believe in economic freedom.

it does, in terms of economic political philosophy

what r u wearing

[ScaringChildren]

it does, in terms of economic political philosophy

what r u wearing

The Right may favor it more but both Left and Right support it in a liberal society.

Just like they both support religious freedoms, press freedoms, etc.

[Ahldagor]

The nuances of the right and left being extolled hilariously. Scaring children doesn't see their loops and the cat is still poking him while the dog's laughing in the corner with witty, charming barks.

[Ahldagor]

Can't we all just be centrist pacifists that like guns? Cryface*

[ScaringChildren]

The nuances of the right and left being extolled hilariously. Scaring children doesn't see their loops and the cat is still poking him while the dog's laughing in the corner with witty, charming barks.

I know Wonkie is being retarded, but it's clear he believes a lot of what he is posting.

[ScaringChildren]

Can't we all just be centrist pacifists that like guns? Cryface*

How about we learn about politics first.

[Wonkie]

The Right may favor it more but both Left and Right support it in a liberal society.

Just like they both support religious freedoms, press freedoms, etc.

thank you that's much better

cuck

[Ahldagor]

How about we learn about politics first.

No need to. Trump proved that.

[ScaringChildren]

No need to. Trump proved that.

Damn son! GOTTEM

[ScaringChildren]

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/406347-las-vegas-professor-claims-he-shot-himself-in-arm-to-protest

HAHAHAHAHA

[Patriam1066]

Economic Freedom is a rightwing idea:



You don't have to want to abolish private property to be a leftest...but I would say its pretty obvious that the left curves the power of private ownership of "property" where as the right is more likely to defend it.

Thank you. You’re absolutely right. Come for any of my property, stocks, or bonds and I will see you drawn and (((quartered))).

hope this helps! Get a haircut

[ScaringChildren]

"Report your neighbor, citizen."

https://twitter.com/syptweet/status/1038891067381350401?s=20

[ScaringChildren]

Thank you. You’re absolutely right. Come for any of my property, stocks, or bonds and I will see you drawn and (((quartered))).

hope this helps! Get a haircut

No, he's not right.

It's not a rightwing idea.

It's something the right typically values more than the left.

Like how the right values freedom of speech more.

It used to be valued by the left more.

[Ahldagor]

No, he's not right.

It's not a rightwing idea.

It's something the right typically values more than the left.

Like how the right values freedom of speech more.

It used to be valued by the left more.

The extremes of the right and the left don't believe in private property or individual freedom which is why you need to meme better. Why are you going on about this? At this point, you're a pedant trying to boost your ego. Let it go, let it go, and go build a snowman.

[Wonkie]

https://i.imgur.com/dqLRX9i.gif

[ScaringChildren]

The extremes of the right and the left don't believe in private property or individual freedom which is why you need to meme better. Why are you going on about this? At this point, you're a pedant trying to boost your ego. Let it go, let it go, and go build a snowman.

I'm not talking about the extremes.

I'm talking about the standard left and right.

[Ahldagor]

I'm not talking about the extremes.

I'm talking about the standard left and right.

Are you?

[Domo]

Just had a good laugh hehe

https://i.imgur.com/KwrhXTM.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PpI217K.jpg

[skarlorn]

lol

[Patriam1066]

https://i.imgur.com/dqLRX9i.gif

When does pokesan get unbanned man. What the hell did you post?

[ScaringChildren]

Are you?

Yes

[ScaringChildren]

Just had a good laugh hehe

https://i.imgur.com/KwrhXTM.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PpI217K.jpg

You allowed to post that now that the EU passed Article 13?

[clevergirl]

You allowed to post that now that the EU passed Article 13?

VPNs big business.

[ScaringChildren]

VPNs big business.

Like China.

"The Great European Firewall".

[Domo]

You allowed to post that now that the EU passed Article 13?

As long advertising with tits (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XggzmTZMivA) are still legal I dont mind.

(I have to mark the link as NSFW because you are from america)

[ScaringChildren]

As long advertising with tits (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XggzmTZMivA) are still legal I dont mind.

(I have to mark the link as NSFW because you are from america)

I can make memes with tits on them all day long and the police won't kick my door in.

Ah, America... The smell of freedom :)

[Domo]

I can make memes with tits on them all day long and the police won't kick my door in.

Ah, America... The smell of freedom :)

At last I dont get shoot here by the police "by mistake" when they kick my door

Ah, Europe... The smell of safety :)

[Patriam1066]

At last I dont get shoot here by the police "by mistake" when they kick my door

Ah, Europe... The smell of safety :)

Yeah dude Germany real safe with afghans murdering citizens. Rommel is rolling over in his grave

As an aside, as soon as NATO gets out of Afghanistan, Iran will be sending the Fatimiyyun (our afghan Shiite cannon fodder) to avenge the Aryans in reprisal for Sunni transgressions. You’re welcome mein freund

[Wonkie]

When does pokesan get unbanned man. What the hell did you post?

never. i said something really dumb about GM i thought was funny, but was just really dumb.

it was a bad move.

[Domo]

Yeah dude Germany real safe with afghans murdering citizens. Rommel is rolling over in his grave


yeah, there are some assholes among the refugees. But I am pragmatist.
And there arnt really more violent crimes than before the refuges crisis.
The diffrence is that crimes of refugees are more in focus of the media.

Its always easyer to point at a minority.

[Patriam1066]

yeah, there are some assholes among the refugees. But I am pragmatist.
And there arnt really more violent crimes than before the refuges crisis.
The diffrence is that crimes of refugees are more in focus of the media.

Its always easyer to point at a minority.

So German citizens should die to people who have no right to be in your country because “statistically it’s no different!”

TRUMP 2024
ORBAN 2028

[Domo]

So German citizens should die to people who have no right to be in your country because “statistically it’s no different!”

TRUMP 2024
ORBAN 2028


Thats very short-sighted.


There been a refugee who rape a german girl

But there also been a german who rape a refugee child

So, if the refugees wouldnt be here, the chance that the german rapist would rape a german child would be higher.

My english sucks to explain this correctly.

How I said, I am a pragmatist. And the statistics saying that there are more crimes in germany since the refugee crisis, but thats also because here are more people now.
Percentage the crimes go down, except from the far-right side.

You can keep thinking that I hate my own people/country or whatever. Which isnt true btw.

But it just dont make any sence to me to put a whole race or religon under general suspicion.

I distinguish the people by their actions, not by their origin.


And for the record. Germany have since decades refugees from all over the world. Including Iran, fromer Yugoslavia, Iraq, China, Tibet, etc.

I still remember when we got 4 refugees from Bosnia to class when I was a 5th grade.
2 of them are back in their home country. One moved to Dubai and one married here in germany and stayed. How do I know this? We had a Class-meeting 2 years ago.


Again, my english sucks to much to have here a factual discussion with you about this topic. So let me try to put it this way:

Why should I panic, just because there are a (very)few people going crazy?

Scratch the sand out of your pussy and enjoy the life mate.

You dont have to sit 24/7 infront of facebook, infowars or whatever.

[JurisDictum]

Thats very short-sighted.


There been a refugee who rape a german girl

But there also been a german who rape a refugee child

So, if the refugees wouldnt be here, the chance that the german rapist would rape a german child would be higher.

My english sucks to explain this correctly.

How I said, I am a pragmatist. And the statistics saying that there are more crimes in germany since the refugee crisis, but thats also because here are more people now.
Percentage the crimes go down, except from the far-right side.

You can keep thinking that I hate my own people/country or whatever. Which isnt true btw.

But it just dont make any sence to me to put a whole race or religon under general suspicion.

I distinguish the people by their actions, not by their origin.


And for the record. Germany have since decades refugees from all over the world. Including Iran, fromer Yugoslavia, Iraq, China, Tibet, etc.

I still remember when we got 4 refugees from Bosnia to class when I was a 5th grade.
2 of them are back in their home country. One moved to Dubai and one married here in germany and stayed. How do I know this? We had a Class-meeting 2 years ago.


Again, my english sucks to much to have here a factual discussion with you about this topic. So let me try to put it this way:

Why should I panic, just because there are a (very)few people going crazy?

Scratch the sand out of your pussy and enjoy the life mate.

You dont have to sit 24/7 infront of facebook, infowars or whatever.

Unfortunately, as long as there are a handful of racist rightwing assholes willing to paint a dire picture of their country, our racist rightwing asshole will take their side of the story.

Despite the fact that countries like Germany and Sweden turning into big rape circuses is a fairly implausible claim -- it supports their narrative that leftwing tolerance for immigration in general is dangerous and perhaps a sinister globalist plot to destroy white people.

The other day I was talking to some women ranting on about how emasculated Swedish men are -- because parents insist on calling them the pronoun for him or her rather than him...and how the masculine men of Islam are basically raping the hell out of Swedish women and the men are too cucked to do anything about it...

I don't understand why someone who has never been to Sweden would come up with these ideas...even if they did read them somewhere...who the fuck believes shit like that on the face it?

I don't think Germans and Swedish people are OK with their women being raped. I think conservatives are much more prone to hysteria and xenophobia then they can admit to themselves.

These are the exact same kinds of people that were burning witches at the stake a thousand years ago.

[Ahldagor]

Yes

Typical.

Hook, line, and sink her.

You're not and I point to my post explaining to inbetweenk what was happening. You were just looking to be correct in an autistic, pedantic mode, and I feel bad for you. Our country's fubar and won't be repaired in the coming generstions, get over it. I say the same stuff to JD. Just glad my street smells of salted pork and smoked meats at the moment.

[tsuchang]

I still have those "hot dam" moments when I think of Hillary loosing and The Donald winning.
How sweet it is.

[ScaringChildren]

Typical.

Hook, line, and sink her.

You're not and I point to my post explaining to inbetweenk what was happening. You were just looking to be correct in an autistic, pedantic mode, and I feel bad for you. Our country's fubar and won't be repaired in the coming generstions, get over it. I say the same stuff to JD. Just glad my street smells of salted pork and smoked meats at the moment.

Dude, shut the fuck up. You weren't even in the conversation and now you are trying to troll by spouting off nonsense.

If you don't think Leftists can be Individualists, you are mentally retarded.

Almost every single Leftist in the US is Individualist. The Democrat party is Individualist.

It has nothing to do with being pedantic.

[ScaringChildren]

At last I dont get shoot here by the police "by mistake" when they kick my door

Ah, Europe... The smell of safety :)

Yeah, except your police are armed as well and kick in your door for arguing with people on social media (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/20/world/europe/germany-36-accused-of-hateful-postings-over-social-media.html)

What a fucking shit hole lol

[Cecily]

Dude, shut the fuck up. You weren't even in the conversation and now you are trying to troll by spouting off nonsense.

If you don't think Leftists can be Individualists, you are mentally retarded.

Almost every single Leftist in the US is Individualist. The Democrat party is Individualist.

It has nothing to do with being pedantic.

If you’re not being pedantic why don’t you stop being so vague and define exactly what you mean by leftists in detail?

[ScaringChildren]

If you’re not being pedantic why don’t you stop being so vague and define exactly what you mean by leftists in detail?

Non-socialist/Non-communist Leftists

Hell, even most Socialists in the US are Individualist. Probably because they're lukewarm in their beliefs.

'Individualism' isn't tied to just left or right. Just like Authoritarianism or Libertarianism isn't tied to just left or right.

[ScaringChildren]

If you’re not being pedantic why don’t you stop being so vague and define exactly what you mean by leftists in detail?

Also, not to be pedantic, but being vague is the opposite of being pedantic.

[ScaringChildren]

Democrats pushed some fake ass propaganda recently:

Tweet from Hillary Clinton
(https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1039864914486149121?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1039864914486149121%7Ctwgr% 5E373939313b73706563696669635f73706f7274735f616374 696f6e&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fnews%2F2 018-09-13%2Fhillary-slips-tweets-furious-screed-based-debunked-kavanaugh-smear)
Tweet from Kamala Harris (https://twitter.com/SenKamalaHarris/status/1038136274593505280)

And the debunk (https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/sep/10/kamala-harris/brett-kavanaugh-birth-control-abortion-inducing/)

I guess Trump isn't the only one who can lie.

[clevergirl]

Scaring children ITT mearilith is going to put on her space age battle armor and drag him to a conversion camp.


That's basically your whole fucking argument as well as the rest of the demagogues on the right...


You're scared of someone who's chubby, ballless, and essentially weaker than a kitten - minus the actual REALLY sharp needle claws. (who is hypothetically the left)

Someone pllllz call the wompbulance!

[clevergirl]

Why don't you guys post some more pictures of some neonazi pumped full of dickroids laying out a supposed paid agitator, I meant skinny soy creature that looks more like a girl... Show us that altruism men!

[ScaringChildren]

Scaring children ITT mearilith is going to put on her space age battle armor and drag him to a conversion camp.


That's basically your whole fucking argument as well as the rest of the demagogues on the right...


You're scared of someone who's chubby, ballless, and essentially weaker than a kitten - minus the actual REALLY sharp needle claws. (who is hypothetically the left)

Someone pllllz call the wompbulance!

Can someone please translate this?

[clevergirl]

Can someone please translate this?

You're upset and terrified about people like me participating in her own governance.

[ScaringChildren]

Why don't you guys post some more pictures of some neonazi pumped full of dickroids laying out a supposed paid agitator, I meant skinny soy creature that looks more like a girl... Show us that altruism men!

Here's a video of a Neo Nazi being punched by a Trans activist (http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh9mzrS6ud5Hkw5sb4)

[ScaringChildren]

You're upset and terrified about people like me participating in her own governance.

No I'm not.

What gave you that impression?

[clevergirl]

Everyone left of center is baaaad especially on social issues because that's "just" identity politics.. Didn't you watch the Hunger Games!

[clevergirl]

Lol wordstarhiphop. Totally reputable publication.

She doesn't look like an alien tranny and loses. So I'm going to give you some dogecoins for farming hateporn.

[ScaringChildren]

Everyone left of center is baaaad especially on social issues because that's "just" identity politics.. Didn't you watch the Hunger Games!

When did I say everyone left of center is bad?

I just spent the last 3 or 4 pages defending leftists.

[clevergirl]

Lol bet you have this shit on speed dial too. The right doesn't even need Russian bots.

Who hurt you?

[ScaringChildren]

Lol wordstarhiphop. Totally reputable publication.

She doesn't look like an alien tranny and loses. So I'm going to give you some dogecoins for farming hateporn.

It's a video of a Trans person calling a black kid a Nazi and punching him.

I thought it was funny and bizarre.

The political climate is bizarre.

[ScaringChildren]

Lol bet you have this shit on speed dial too. The right doesn't even need Russian bots.

Who hurt you?

my daddy

[clevergirl]

I can make memes with tits on them all day long and the police won't kick my door in.

Ah, America... The smell of freedom :)

No, he's not right.

It's not a rightwing idea.

It's something the right typically values more than the left.

Like how the right values freedom of speech more.

It used to be valued by the left more.

I'm not talking about the extremes.

I'm talking about the standard left and right.

[clevergirl]

A lot of B.s. except you're right, you are just a meme.

[clevergirl]

It's a video of a Trans person calling a black kid a Nazi and punching him.

I thought it was funny and bizarre.

The political climate is bizarre.

The video is titled Nazi beats the shit out of trans kid.

[ScaringChildren]

Me making fun of Europe, claiming that Leftists can be (and usually are) Individualists, and discussing the similarities between the standard left and right parties proves that I hate/terrified of trans people and anyone left of center?

Huh?

[ScaringChildren]

The video is titled Nazi beats the shit out of trans kid.

No, it's literally called 'Pick Your Fights Carefully: Transwoman Gets Beat Up After Punching A Man In The Face!'.

[clevergirl]

Me making fun of Europe, claiming that Leftists can be (and usually are) Individualists, and discussing the similarities between the standard left and right parties proves that I hate/terrified of trans people and anyone left of center?

Huh?

Now that you've successfully regained control of the discourse I'm going to leave you to it.

Oh yeah, and article 13 is poopyish I guess, but lol, who fucking cares, someone will figure out a way to pay for the memeage and ittl create revenue and trickle down jobs. Article 13 will only be invoked when a Muslim gets upset their mouths are replaced with vaginas.

:cool:

[Wonkie]

Non-socialist/Non-communist Leftists

Hell, even most Socialists in the US are Individualist. Probably because they're lukewarm in their beliefs.

'Individualism' isn't tied to just left or right. Just like Authoritarianism or Libertarianism isn't tied to just left or right.

The Democratic party follows a right-wing economic policy

good morning my darlings

[clevergirl]

No, it's literally called 'Pick Your Fights Carefully: Transwoman Gets Beat Up After Punching A Man In The Face!'.

S.c.a.r.r.e.d.

[ScaringChildren]

The Democratic party follows a right-wing economic policy

good morning my darlings

According to Wonkie, the Democratic party isn't Individualistic, which would mean they don't support the majority of the Constitution.

Protections against illegal search and seizure? Nope!

Want to start a business or buy an acre of land? Too Bad!

Want to plead the 5th? Well you can't!

Need to practice your religion? No way sir!

Not with Wonkie's Democratic Party. Please vote for us 2020.

this message was approved by the Wonkie Democratic Party

[Patriam1066]

According to Wonkie, the Democratic party isn't Individualistic, which would mean they don't support the majority of the Constitution.

Protections against illegal search and seizure? Nope!

Want to start a business or buy an acre of land? Too Bad!

Want to plead the 5th? Well you can't!

Need to practice your religion? No way sir!

Not with Wonkie's Democratic Party. Please vote for us 2020.

this message was approved by the Wonkie Democratic Party

Lol what

[Wonkie]

According to Wonkie, the Democratic party isn't Individualistic


they are individualistic, because they are right wing.

thanks

[ScaringChildren]

they are individualistic, because they are right wing.

thanks

Ah yes, Bernie Sanders the right winger.

I forgot.

[Wonkie]

Ah yes, Bernie Sanders the right winger.

I forgot.

:o

You know he only joined in 2016 so he could run for President?

[ScaringChildren]

:o

You know he only joined in 2016 so he could run for President?

Don't care.

He still joined and he's still a leftist.

Leftists can be individualists and often are.

[Wonkie]

Don't care.

He still joined and he's still a leftist.

Leftists can be individualists and often are.

not economically, which is what I've been saying.

[ScaringChildren]

not economically, which is what I've been saying.

No, you were claiming that Leftists couldn't be Individualists. Period.

Don't try to move the goal posts, boy.

[ScaringChildren]

individualism isn't leftist hth

[Wonkie]

it's the economy, stupid

[ScaringChildren]

it's the economy, stupid

What's the economy?

Individualism?

What? What are you talking about?

[Wonkie]

What's the economy?

Individualism?

What? What are you talking about?

here

https://i.imgur.com/arXVfrh.png

The X axis is economic policy, you know, collectivism vs individualism. The Y axis is social issues. The Z axis is me at full mast ready for you to chow down.

[ScaringChildren]

here

https://i.imgur.com/arXVfrh.png

The X axis is economic policy, you know, collectivism vs individualism. The Y axis is social issues. The Z axis is me at full mast ready for you to chow down.

So this is you?

You're a right leaning Libertarian?

What does this have to do with leftists being Individualists?

[Wonkie]

no it's a picture I pasted from somewhere as a teaching tool for my speddy boi

[ScaringChildren]

no it's a picture I pasted from somewhere as a teaching tool for my speddy boi

You don't know how to read a political compass, do you?

https://i.imgur.com/BTTbpkF.jpg

See how Individualism spans across the bottom? That means both Left and Right can be Individualist, as well as Collectivist.

Neat, huh?

[Wonkie]

you're aware the bottom is a horizontal plane right? it's still X, left and right, describing economic positions, collectivism vs capitalism

[ScaringChildren]

you're aware the bottom is a horizontal plane right? it's still X, left and right, describing economic positions, collectivism vs capitalism

You're still on Economics. You said 'Individualism isn't leftist'.

It is.

But even in some of the most Leftist countries you will find a healthy dose of economic individualism.

Norway has great Business and Property Rights Freedoms, for example (https://www.heritage.org/index/country/norway)

[Wonkie]

what do u get out of this bro

just trying to pay it forward sensei sama

https://i.imgur.com/jXl4AOn.jpg

[ScaringChildren]

anyway supreme condescending dickishness isn't the best teaching style. im not like sorry or noffin, but i am trying to provoke you into growing, intellectually. just thought you should know hon

peace

Wonkie is trying to "teach" me.

Which is like getting advice from a drunk homeless man who just pissed himself.

[Wonkie]

our sweet jouster is experiencing reduced IQ over time due to reduced cardiovascular throughput. it's heartbraking to watch.

you disagree with my assessment of him?

[Wonkie]

Didn't read it

you don't think he's spongeworthy?

my feelings will be hurt if you say no :(

[ScaringChildren]

I'm not going to fuck you, Wonkie.

[clevergirl]

What does spongeworthy mean?

[clevergirl]

https://i.imgur.com/87zmGFz.png

I don't know what that is.

https://i.imgur.com/p1MSyOC.png

Notice I'm a nice girl on the asshole spectrum. Far from the unpatriotic authoritarian monster the right paints me as.

[clevergirl]

The real question is whether someone on the right can answer that test honestly.

[Schaduwridder]

new wonkie avatar looks good, and cleverguy you are a guy on the chart because you are in fact a guy

hope this helps, goodluck today with the job hunting

just kidding you wont go out today ( or tonight )

oh well

[Wonkie]

his history of violent crime is rather exciting

i think he's motivated by the guilt from it. tortured soul.

[clevergirl]

I lean as far right as the current political climate and circumstances allow me. I'd probably test further right if y'all laid off of the tranny bullshit. That'd net you another 8 points at the polls (because non homos do care also what happens in this country).

[clevergirl]

new wonkie avatar looks good, and cleverguy you are a guy on the chart because you are in fact a guy

hope this helps, goodluck today with the job hunting

just kidding you wont go out today ( or tonight )

oh well


I'm right smack in the middle between Nelson Mandela and Jill Stein. I'm like a queer Ghandi.

Fear m3 prole!

[Patriam1066]

I’m left of center economically and far right on the social issues thing. Weird cause I don’t really care about gays. I do think morality should be enforceable at gunpoint though so there’s that

[skarlorn]

Alcohol is Sin

Drink Coffee, Lift Weights, make money, Do Sex

Everyone Can Smoke Weed.

Tax the hyper rich more, improve education, and get huge cocks into tight pussies.

Vote skarlorn 2030

[ScaringChildren]

I don't know what that is.

https://i.imgur.com/p1MSyOC.png

Notice I'm a nice girl on the asshole spectrum. Far from the unpatriotic authoritarian monster the right paints me as.

I'm mirrored to this, just over the line on the right

[clevergirl]

I'm mirrored to this, just over the line on the right

I believe that. I think both Trump and Hillary are total frauds FYI. And neither deserve our undying devotion or self identification.

[ScaringChildren]

I believe that. I think both Trump and Hillary are total frauds FYI. And neither deserve our undying devotion or self identification.

I just took the same test....

I'm....a Leftist?

https://i.imgur.com/D0FOQxx.png

https://i.imgur.com/f9FW2.gif

[Wonkie]

I just took the same test....

I'm....a Leftist?

https://i.imgur.com/D0FOQxx.png

https://i.imgur.com/f9FW2.gif

your journey of self discovery has been beautiful to witness.

now move out of swamp and get you some E in PNW Paradise

[Irulan]

I just took the same test....

I'm....a Leftist?

https://i.imgur.com/D0FOQxx.png

https://i.imgur.com/f9FW2.gif

*hugs*

https://i.imgur.com/VmY8NOA.gif

[ScaringChildren]

your journey of self discovery has been beautiful to witness.

now move out of swamp and get you some E in PNW Paradise

I feel like I just learned my family has a history of heart disease.

Do I take medication or something for this?

[clevergirl]

I feel like I just learned my family has a history of heart disease.

Do I take medication or something for this?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24642156 ;)

[ScaringChildren]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24642156 ;)

escitalopram makes your balls shrink?

[clevergirl]

escitalopram makes your balls shrink?

Well, I don't have any, so I wouldn't know tbqh. :o

[ScaringChildren]

Well, I don't have any, so I wouldn't know tbqh. :o

You're post-op?

I didn't know that

[clevergirl]

You're post-op?

I didn't know that

Not really post op. Unless you define it as no longer gonadal, still on vaginaquest.

[ScaringChildren]

Not really post op. Unless you define it as no longer gonadal, still on vaginaquest.

If they didn't serve a purpose I'd lop them off too.

Always get in the way when you try to sit down.

I bet you're comfy as fuck.

[clevergirl]

If they didn't serve a purpose I'd lop them off too.

Always get in the way when you try to sit down.

I bet you're comfy as fuck.

Yeah actually, it's sooo nice too when like running and stuff, god I remember so many ruckmarches...

[Schaduwridder]

Alcohol is Sin

Drink Coffee, Lift Weights, make money, Do Sex

Everyone Can Smoke Weed.

Tax the hyper rich more, improve education, and get huge cocks into tight pussies.

Vote skarlorn 2030

rich people don't really pay taxes, only poor people do.

that's how America works, sorry you are poor and still have this view.

Wealthy people will always find ways to avoid paying large taxes and all poor people think the bulk of the taxes in our country should be paid by them, its always so funny how selfish people are.

especially poor people

and abominations

[Wonkie]

so cuomo defeated Nixon

pure sexism smh

[ScaringChildren]

so cuomo defeated Nixon

pure sexism smh

I am also troubled by this news, fellow leftist

[clevergirl]

so cuomo defeated Nixon

pure sexism smh

Nixon’s run wasn’t totally in vain. The buzz she earned upon entry in the race seemed to rattle Cuomo enough to move him leftward on some of his positions. He’s all but allowed for the legalization of recreational marijuana, which he had been known to call a “gateway drug” previously. He restored voting rights to parolees. He’s gone after the scourge of plastic bags only a year after blocking New York City from doing so. These are issues on which Nixon can and should declare victory, even if she never came close. It was a smart idea to run.

Sometimes the left makes me a little dizzy. These aren't the kinds of politics we can hold people accountable too when people really are just pandering to a 'feels'. In the long run. (Shuffles right).

[clevergirl]

rich people don't really pay taxes, only poor people do.

that's how America works, sorry you are poor and still have this view.

Wealthy people will always find ways to avoid paying large taxes and all poor people think the bulk of the taxes in our country should be paid by them, its always so funny how selfish people are.

especially poor people

and abominations

Rich people can be abominations too. Don't count them out!

(it sound's like you just hate poor people, a lot) (completely understandable)

[Wonkie]

quote on nixon

weed? im authoritarian on that. it should be mandatory.

roll the tanks blunts

[skarlorn]

I am also troubled by this news, fellow leftist

lol

wonkie u smoke spliffs?

[Wonkie]

lol

wonkie u smoke spliffs?

no. rules for thee not for me.

[ScaringChildren]

weed? im authoritarian on that. it should be mandatory.

roll the tanks blunts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAyjA0rIpqw

[clevergirl]

Yeah, I think weed should be given out in little bags at school. Probably would make for a better learning environment.

[skarlorn]

no. rules for thee not for me.

what

i don't smoke tobacco

[Wonkie]

what

i don't smoke tobacco

everyone else should have to smoke weed. gotta keep the wildlife sedated.

[ScaringChildren]

everyone else should have to smoke weed. gotta keep the wildlife sedated.

but it gives me cramps